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This is my first android and only my second smart phone. My first was iphone 3GS.
I've had the phone for just a few days now and I'm beginning to understand things but I still have a bunch of questions. I'm sure it's answered in a guide somewhere already but I'm having trouble understanding the lingo to understand the guide...
So this phone obviously doesn't have an SD card port. But does that mean there is no way to create a virtual SD card? Is there one already on the phone that I don't understand how to access it?
In apps that require other files stored on an SD card it often brings up a browser with the location /SD card/. Is this an actual folder location? How can I access it and how can I put files there?
I apologize in advance because I probably will not be able to understand your directions since I just don't understand android talk yet.
I have no idea what sort of info you guys might need so here it all is.
HTC One X
AT&T 4G LTE
USA
Rooted using [ROOT] 1.85 One Click Root! - ACT NOW, MAY NOT LAST FOREVER! (I'm not sure how I did this or if I was supposed to. Just following instructions...)
I have no idea what a bootloader is, just that it can be unlocked. Should I do this? What does that mean?
I have a vague idea of what a rom is and i'm running the vanilla stock one. Any advice of what the advantages are of changing my rom and how to do it? Again I looked at the guides but I can't understand it...
I have no idea what a kernal is.
PhatCrits said:
This is my first android and only my second smart phone. My first was iphone 3GS.
I've had the phone for just a few days now and I'm beginning to understand things but I still have a bunch of questions. I'm sure it's answered in a guide somewhere already but I'm having trouble understanding the lingo to understand the guide...
So this phone obviously doesn't have an SD card port. But does that mean there is no way to create a virtual SD card? Is there one already on the phone that I don't understand how to access it?
In apps that require other files stored on an SD card it often brings up a browser with the location /SD card/. Is this an actual folder location? How can I access it and how can I put files there?
I apologize in advance because I probably will not be able to understand your directions since I just don't understand android talk yet.
I have no idea what sort of info you guys might need so here it all is.
HTC One X
AT&T 4G LTE
USA
Rooted using [ROOT] 1.85 One Click Root! - ACT NOW, MAY NOT LAST FOREVER! (I'm not sure how I did this or if I was supposed to. Just following instructions...)
I have no idea what a bootloader is, just that it can be unlocked. Should I do this? What does that mean?
I have a vague idea of what a rom is and i'm running the vanilla stock one. Any advice of what the advantages are of changing my rom and how to do it? Again I looked at the guides but I can't understand it...
I have no idea what a kernal is.
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It has an internal sd card, you can access it with es file explorer, or any explorer app, but es is recommended. And when you plug your phone into pc it will pop up with the option to charge or mount as mass storage.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
PhatCrits said:
This is my first android and only my second smart phone. My first was iphone 3GS.
I've had the phone for just a few days now and I'm beginning to understand things but I still have a bunch of questions. I'm sure it's answered in a guide somewhere already but I'm having trouble understanding the lingo to understand the guide...
So this phone obviously doesn't have an SD card port. But does that mean there is no way to create a virtual SD card? Is there one already on the phone that I don't understand how to access it?
In apps that require other files stored on an SD card it often brings up a browser with the location /SD card/. Is this an actual folder location? How can I access it and how can I put files there?
I apologize in advance because I probably will not be able to understand your directions since I just don't understand android talk yet.
I have no idea what sort of info you guys might need so here it all is.
HTC One X
AT&T 4G LTE
USA
Rooted using [ROOT] 1.85 One Click Root! - ACT NOW, MAY NOT LAST FOREVER! (I'm not sure how I did this or if I was supposed to. Just following instructions...)
I have no idea what a bootloader is, just that it can be unlocked. Should I do this? What does that mean?
I have a vague idea of what a rom is and i'm running the vanilla stock one. Any advice of what the advantages are of changing my rom and how to do it? Again I looked at the guides but I can't understand it...
I have no idea what a kernal is.
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Welcome...I'd advise for you to head over to youtube and just search for any questions you might have. That way you get to see it. Even if it isn't for your phone alot of the same basic principles apply. ie. search youtube for android basics or something like that i'm sure you'll find a lot of info to get you started.
PhatCrits said:
This is my first android and only my second smart phone. My first was iphone 3GS.
I've had the phone for just a few days now and I'm beginning to understand things but I still have a bunch of questions. I'm sure it's answered in a guide somewhere already but I'm having trouble understanding the lingo to understand the guide...
So this phone obviously doesn't have an SD card port. But does that mean there is no way to create a virtual SD card? Is there one already on the phone that I don't understand how to access it?
In apps that require other files stored on an SD card it often brings up a browser with the location /SD card/. Is this an actual folder location? How can I access it and how can I put files there?
I apologize in advance because I probably will not be able to understand your directions since I just don't understand android talk yet.
I have no idea what sort of info you guys might need so here it all is.
HTC One X
AT&T 4G LTE
USA
Rooted using [ROOT] 1.85 One Click Root! - ACT NOW, MAY NOT LAST FOREVER! (I'm not sure how I did this or if I was supposed to. Just following instructions...)
I have no idea what a bootloader is, just that it can be unlocked. Should I do this? What does that mean?
I have a vague idea of what a rom is and i'm running the vanilla stock one. Any advice of what the advantages are of changing my rom and how to do it? Again I looked at the guides but I can't understand it...
I have no idea what a kernal is.
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Welcome to the world of Android!
Our phone's file system is as follows:
2gb for Apps (in the /data location)
10gb for User Data (known as the "sdcard", in the /sdcard location, basically a virtual sd card)
4gb for system files and such.
Use any file explorer to acces the files in /sdcard. However, you can only edit the other "partitions" (as they are called, basically the other parts of the file system as described above) with root.
Root is basically giving you access to those other parts of the system so that you cant usually access so that you can modify your system
Bootloaders are the things that load the device firmware. If you unlock them, you can write custom things to boot the system up, such as custom recoveries (used to install custom ROMs, back your system up, etc) and custom kernels.
If for now you aren't going to use any custom ROMs then don't worry about Bootloader Unlock. If you want to use custom ROMs then you will need to unlock your bootloader and install a custom recovery.
Custom ROMs really come in two different types: ones that remove extra crap that AT&T/HTC install on there but are still very stock looking and give you a faster stock experience, and also those ROMs that completly deviate from stock and have an entirely different look and feel.
The second category of ROMs also can be broken up into two categories. One of them is AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROMs that give you the vanilla look of what Ice Cream Sandwich is supposed to look like (look up screenshots of a Galaxy Nexus to see what it looks like). An example of ROMs like this are CM9 and AOKP. They both give you extremely high customizability. There are also ROMs that deviate from the standard type of different ROMs, such as the MIUI ROM. These give your phone a completely different look and feel like the AOSP Roms except they aren't trying to mimic AOSP. Check out screenshots of the MIUI ROM to see what I mean of a different ROM.
Ask any more questions you have.
rohan32 said:
Welcome to the world of Android!
Our phone's file system is as follows:
2gb for Apps (in the /data location)
10gb for User Data (known as the "sdcard", in the /sdcard location, basically a virtual sd card)
4gb for system files and such.
Use any file explorer to acces the files in /sdcard. However, you can only edit the other "partitions" (as they are called, basically the other parts of the file system as described above) with root.
Root is basically giving you access to those other parts of the system so that you cant usually access so that you can modify your system
Bootloaders are the things that load the device firmware. If you unlock them, you can write custom things to boot the system up, such as custom recoveries (used to install custom ROMs, back your system up, etc) and custom kernels.
If for now you aren't going to use any custom ROMs then don't worry about Bootloader Unlock. If you want to use custom ROMs then you will need to unlock your bootloader and install a custom recovery.
Custom ROMs really come in two different types: ones that remove extra crap that AT&T/HTC install on there but are still very stock looking and give you a faster stock experience, and also those ROMs that completly deviate from stock and have an entirely different look and feel.
The second category of ROMs also can be broken up into two categories. One of them is AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROMs that give you the vanilla look of what Ice Cream Sandwich is supposed to look like (look up screenshots of a Galaxy Nexus to see what it looks like). An example of ROMs like this are CM9 and AOKP. They both give you extremely high customizability. There are also ROMs that deviate from the standard type of different ROMs, such as the MIUI ROM. These give your phone a completely different look and feel like the AOSP Roms except they aren't trying to mimic AOSP. Check out screenshots of the MIUI ROM to see what I mean of a different ROM.
Ask any more questions you have.
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Thank you Rohan and Kleeman.
So I'm gonna keep asking if you don't mind. It seems to me that if I were to keep the stock rom then I would not be getting all I could out of the device. I think cleanrom is for me, but would I be missing out on features by sticking with SenseUI? Could you point me in the direction of a very very very dumbed down way to unlock it, preferably device specific? Simple google searches brought guides but not one I could follow. Oh, and when should I backup and how?
Hi there,
I am new to xda and new to Android hacking.
What I wanna ask is, (I guess it's of most newbies concern as well), can we have a 100% backup of our system (stock ROM)? Obviously, it is important because:
If we perform an official (OTA) update to a new Android version. And we don't like it. It is possible to get back to the old original one which we are used to. (not everybody likes new things, and/or not every new thing is good)
If our phones are having some problems. And we have to give it back to the company for a fix. In most cases they will flash a new ROM for us. If we wanna keep using the old one (explained in #1), we have to keep a copy of it by ourselves.
If we want to try new custom ROMs, we may want to switch it back after trying.
Whenever we do any modifications, it's always better to keep a backup/roll-back point. In case anything goes wrong, we have a safeguard.
For the official warranty issue.
Yup I do see there are some official stock ROMs downloads for some particular phones. But those are not really a backup of our original ROMs. And it's always hard to verify if those downloads are the original official releases. And, if those downloads are 100% stock ROMs, this means some guys out there could make it, so what is the way to do so?
Or, how those mobile phone companies do it in their labs?
I have been doing researches on this topic for a few days. Some posts claim that their methods are "backup stock ROM" or "backup before rooting". But after digging into it, they requires rooting and/or flashing CWM. Here comes a few questions:
Questions
Rooting will in fact changes some files/data of the system. So backup after root is NOT getting the original stock ROM. Is it?
Is there a method to "un-root", so ALL the changes are TOTALLY reverted?
Installing/flashing things like CWM in phone requires rooting, which would make the ROM not original. Is there a way to extract the system backup from a computer externally?
In addition, I have found some related pieces. which could be useful to anyone viewing this post, and might be useful for you to solve this (my) question. :fingers-crossed:
* as I'm a new user, I can't post links directly. Please delete the blank spaces in between.
ht tp://www .modaco .com/topic/351269-backup-original-rom/
In reply #5, user C3C0 raised a method of backing up the original stock ROM without root. But it seems he is flashing CWM and that method is only for ZTE Skate.
adb backup tool of Android SDK
At the first sight i came across this approach, I thought it is the official method to do whole system (ROM) backup (WOW - how nice!). But after studying for a few more posts, I think adb backup can only backup app+app_data, and possibly some system settings only. Am I correct? And also, adb backup is only for ICS (Android 4.0), isn't it?
adb backup usage: ht tp://forum.xda-developers .com/showthread.php?t=1420351
(But mentioned in the bottom of #1 the poster is having some issues on using adb backup. Perhaps there are some bugs and not reliable(?)
One more question on adb backup: Can it backup just one app+app_data, and restore just one app+app_data, without affecting other things? If yes, we don't need to root and don't need Titanium Backup (which requires root) for backup app+app_data. Isn't it?
** In case I have said anything or any terms wrongly in this thread, please DO correct me, for helping me and helping others.
P.S. i am using LG Optimus 3D.
Thanks a lot, wholeheartedly,
midnite_
Backup phone before root
Hello all this is my first post here...woohoo!:fingers-crossed: This forum is amazing as to the amount of information available. I just wish that in looking for what I need to do I did not need to look in so many places. I feel that if I want to root my T-Mobile GS3 that all the information should be in one subsection of the forum, but it is not that simple I guess....lol Anyway any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have a Samsung GS3 with T-Mobile that I want to root. Everyone says to back up the phone before you do it but I am not really seeing how to make a backup before I start. It appears that most of the guides to root just say to backup without telling you how to fo it. Another thing (correct me if I am wrong) I see the nandroid backup that I think is a backup of the phone however it seems to be done after you make changes to the phone and I thought the backup was supposed to be done before you do anything. Is it that there is not a way to make a complete backup with an unrooted phone?
My question is basically the same as the OP here. I have been reading and reading and reading posts here in the forum. There is much information here and much of it is duplicated with slight variances in some of the duplicates. I am not certain as to which rooting method I should use. There seem to be so many choices. As a new person to this forum I will say that you can find just about everything about any phone which is awesome. The hard thing is sifting through the many options to pick one to use for your issue.
I do see that Mr. Robinson has a thread with backups of the original roms. The only thing is that they are default roms that are like an out of the box phone and not my phone with my apps and my settings. That is what I want to backup...My phone with my settings and my apps.
:good: Thank you in advance for any one that can shed some light on this for me and the OP'er
ASharpEdge said:
Hello all this is my first post here...woohoo!:fingers-crossed: This forum is amazing as to the amount of information available. I just wish that in looking for what I need to do I did not need to look in so many places. I feel that if I want to root my T-Mobile GS3 that all the information should be in one subsection of the forum, but it is not that simple I guess....lol Anyway any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have a Samsung GS3 with T-Mobile that I want to root. Everyone says to back up the phone before you do it but I am not really seeing how to make a backup before I start. It appears that most of the guides to root just say to backup without telling you how to fo it. Another thing (correct me if I am wrong) I see the nandroid backup that I think is a backup of the phone however it seems to be done after you make changes to the phone and I thought the backup was supposed to be done before you do anything. Is it that there is not a way to make a complete backup with an unrooted phone?
My question is basically the same as the OP here. I have been reading and reading and reading posts here in the forum. There is much information here and much of it is duplicated with slight variances in some of the duplicates. I am not certain as to which rooting method I should use. There seem to be so many choices. As a new person to this forum I will say that you can find just about everything about any phone which is awesome. The hard thing is sifting through the many options to pick one to use for your issue.
I do see that Mr. Robinson has a thread with backups of the original roms. The only thing is that they are default roms that are like an out of the box phone and not my phone with my apps and my settings. That is what I want to backup...My phone with my settings and my apps.
:good: Thank you in advance for any one that can shed some light on this for me and the OP'er
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Hi ya,
It's so nice that you are having the same concern as I do.
As far as i know, the approaches of rooting differ from phones to phones. So we may have to find our own specific rooting method in the phone model sub-forums. It won't be hard for your popular S3
I would like to have a look at that Mr. Robinson's thread. If he can backup the stock ROM, those app+app_data wont a big issue (i guess).
cheers,
midnite_
midnite_ said:
Questions
Rooting will in fact changes some files/data of the system. So backup after root is NOT getting the original stock ROM. Is it?
Is there a method to "un-root", so ALL the changes are TOTALLY reverted?
Installing/flashing things like CWM in phone requires rooting, which would make the ROM not original. Is there a way to extract the system backup from a computer externally?
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Hi midnight, welcome to a new and exciting world of Android and trying new things. First, let me assure you, what you want is NOT something new. People have been doing this type of thing for years. That is flashing and testing roms. As you will learn, it actually becomes quite addictive. We call those folks that get addicted to flashing: Flashaholics or crackflashers, lol
First let me talk about "root". This process consists of unlocking a lower level of the Android system known as the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader of your device allows you to flash a custom recovery, flashing a custom recovery allows you to flash the Superuser binary and Superuser.apk, This is what allows you to use apps that require "root". The bootloader is not an OS file. So when you are unlocking your bootloader you are not modifying your stock rom. Only when you have flashed the Superuser package have you modified your stock rom. And even that isn't really modifying anything. When you flash the Superuser package, it adds two files to your rom at certain locations of the file system. It adds the Superuser.apk file to system/app and it adds the SU binary to system/bin. Basically you CAN have a totally S-OFF (unlocked) bootloader and still have an entirely stock rom if you want. But the real benifit is flashing a custom recovery like ClockworkMod Recovery and then flash the superuser package.
As far as extracting the stock system, you should try giving adb a go. Do it right now if you like. Ensure you have the android sdk installed and properly set up on your computer and your computer can recognize your phone. Ensure your phone is in debugging mode, connect your phone to your computer, open up a command window, and run this command:
Code:
adb pull \
This command will pull everything off your phone except for data which is where your market or Google Play apps are stored.
Beyond XDA there are aso more resources to learn from. For example, http://www.android.com is a good place to start, and to learn more about adb check out http://developer.android.com/tools/help/adb.html
If you need to learn how to setup the sdk here is the place to learn how: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
I'm sure others will add to this as well which is the good thing about this community.
Welcome to XDA, I hope you have fun learning, and maybe share back someday things you learn along the way.
wildstang83 said:
Hi midnight, welcome to a new and exciting world of Android and trying new things. First, let me assure you, what you want is NOT something new. People have been doing this type of thing for years. That is flashing and testing roms. As you will learn, it actually becomes quite addictive. We call those folks that get addicted to flashing: Flashaholics or crackflashers, lol
First let me talk about "root". This process consists of unlocking a lower level of the Android system known as the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader of your device allows you to flash a custom recovery, flashing a custom recovery allows you to flash the Superuser binary and Superuser.apk, This is what allows you to use apps that require "root". The bootloader is not an OS file. So when you are unlocking your bootloader you are not modifying your stock rom. Only when you have flashed the Superuser package have you modified your stock rom. And even that isn't really modifying anything. When you flash the Superuser package, it adds two files to your rom at certain locations of the file system. It adds the Superuser.apk file to system/app and it adds the SU binary to system/bin. Basically you CAN have a totally S-OFF (unlocked) bootloader and still have an entirely stock rom if you want. But the real benifit is flashing a custom recovery like ClockworkMod Recovery and then flash the superuser package.
As far as extracting the stock system, you should try giving adb a go. Do it right now if you like. Ensure you have the android sdk installed and properly set up on your computer and your computer can recognize your phone. Ensure your phone is in debugging mode, connect your phone to your computer, open up a command window, and run this command:
Code:
adb pull \
This command will pull everything off your phone except for data which is where your market or Google Play apps are stored.
Beyond XDA there are aso more resources to learn from. For example, ht tp://www .android .com is a good place to start, and to learn more about adb check out ht tp://developer .android .com/tools/help/adb.html
If you need to learn how to setup the sdk here is the place to learn how: ht tp://developer .android .com/sdk/index.html
I'm sure others will add to this as well which is the good thing about this community.
Welcome to XDA, I hope you have fun learning, and maybe share back someday things you learn along the way.
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Hi Wildstang,
Thanks very much for your warm welcome and very informative reply. So are you a Flashaholics or Crackflashers yet?
As I am a newbie, please forgive me if I am asking dumb questions.
As far as I understand,
The steps of root is
1. Unlock the bootloader
2. Flash Superuser binary & Superuser.apk
** does "flash a custom recovery" means "flash Superuser binary & Superuser.apk"?
"Flash Superuser binary & Superuser.apk" is just "add SU binary to system/bin" and "add Superuser.apk to system/app". Then why not just copy them into place?
I just found on the web that "flashing" means replacing the OS of the phone with a new ROM. Would that still keeping the stock ROM?
To have a backup of the original stock ROM, can I
1. Unlock the bootloader
2. Flash Superuser binary & Superuser.apk
3. Perform the backup
And later, after I have flashed a new ROM, or whatever I do, as long as I didn't brick it, when I want to rollback my phone to its original, I can
1. Restore the backup
2. Delete "SU binary in system/bin" and "Superuser.apk in system/app"
3. re-lock the bootloader
Is this correct?
I don't mean to challenge you. But does adb pull \ really backup the system, or just all the files?
Thanks very much again!
midnite_
Hey midnite_,
I am a newbie too and have a lot of blank spots in my understanding of what we can do with android. I also came here with same question. I found how to root, this isn't a secret. Like you, I want to know how do I fix it if I break it.
So, with regards to your questions.
1. Unlock the bootloader
Not clear on this one, as not every tutorial even mentions this part. My feeling is that this might be specific to some phones, like HTC.
2. Flash Custom Recovery (such as AmonRa, CWR, TWRP...)
Recovery is an intermediate stage of phone booting process after bootloader but before OS.
It is there to allow OTA (Over the air) updates. During those, the OS is halted and replaced with a newer one.
What this means for us is that the recovery is capable of replacing OS (ROM - are these terms interchangeable?).
Recovery is the same as hidden partition on windows, that is sometimes present on a PC. It has a limited interface.
It can replace one OS image with another. It probably checks the checksum and creates the new one after the update. It is probably the gatekeeper.
Stock recovery will not replace OS with an image from SD card or from PC through USB. Only OTA.
This is the reason for flashing the custom (hacked) recovery on.
Custom recovery is made to allow additional options, such as allowing image sources such as PC or SD card, and also a ROM backup (write OS image to PC).
3. Flash update file using "upgrade from SD card" function of custom recovery now in place.
In this step, the Superuser.apk and bin files are placed. Stock recovery will not let us do that.
Also, I think the reason we can't just use ADB to "copy" superuser package to phone is because the system is either running or exists as an image (compressed?), and is probably protective of its modification. (So, likely the superuser package also replaces the checksum that the OS uses to check if it has been compromised?) Yes, this modifies your rom.
I assume that unrooting could be done after this by updating again with a file that removes superuser package and that would make your rom stock again.
4 OR flash custom ROM, which usually includes superuser package. Of course using custom rom means you no longer have stock rom.
To have a backup of original ROM, you would :
1 Unlock bootloader,
2 Flash (install) custom recovery
3 superuser doesn't matter here
4 Use custom recovery function to back up your stock ROM.
I want to know the answers to the rest of your questions as well as some clarifications to mine.
Personally, I am looking for a way to backup the stock recovery as well.
I know there are some people asking about this. The procedure appears to be as follows:
(pieced together so don't take it as a tutorial)
1 Unlock bootloader (again, unclear on this. Also some mention S-OFF and others don't)
2 With USB debugging allowed (meaning connect as device requiring a driver), Connect to a PC with ABD, and a driver installed.
3 From ADB, issue a command "adb boot recoveryimage.name" instead of the usual "adb flash recoveryimage.name".
This will make the phone boot into a custom recovery image that is residing on PC, without first writing it to the phone.
4 Unclear how, but make that custom recovery now being live to back up stock rom to pc.
5 Unclear how, but make that custom recovery now being live to flash either root or custom rom to the phone.
6 Disconnect, reboot the phone. Once in OS, use root privileges to mount recovery partition ? (this makes it visible as drive)
7 Don't know how, but use root privileges to back up now visible stock recovery partition to PC as image.
( This should give you two out of three original parts.)
Keep in mind that even if my peace-by-peace "know-how" ever works, there is at least one clearly faulty step:
The back up of the original state of the boot loader has been never made. I do not know if it is easily can be toggled back and forth from lock to unlock and back without leaving any trace. Also, like yourself, I probably don't quite understand what am I talking about, but I have tried to make as much sense of what I have read here and there.
This is my first smart phone, and my experience with linux is limited to building a minecraft server on MineOS, which was pre-made so that not much was required to make it run. I have "mounted" a partition for the first time last week, trying to break Win7recovery, booting it with Knoppix. This is why I think this is probably will come in play here too, as the recovery partition on W7 was hidden. Until then I didn't understand what mounting means, as windows always does it for you. So, take everything I say with a bunch of salt.
Please, let me know too, if you find out more. I want to flash the hell out of my Prism, but I want to be smart about it.
bump... midnite_ r u still around?
Hi Descent2,
Yes i am still around but i am busy with other stuffs at this moment. Thanks very much for your reply. You have studied a lot and you really did good summarisations. Very informative and I learnt a lot from it. Hope some of the masters or experienced ones would come by and bring us out of the mist
cheers,
midnite_
Descent2 said:
Hey midnite_,
I am a newbie too and have a lot of blank spots in my understanding of what we can do with android. I also came here with same question. I found how to root, this isn't a secret. Like you, I want to know how do I fix it if I break it.
So, with regards to your questions.
1. Unlock the bootloader
Not clear on this one, as not every tutorial even mentions this part. My feeling is that this might be specific to some phones, like HTC.
2. Flash Custom Recovery (such as AmonRa, CWR, TWRP...)
Recovery is an intermediate stage of phone booting process after bootloader but before OS.
It is there to allow OTA (Over the air) updates. During those, the OS is halted and replaced with a newer one.
What this means for us is that the recovery is capable of replacing OS (ROM - are these terms interchangeable?).
Recovery is the same as hidden partition on windows, that is sometimes present on a PC. It has a limited interface.
It can replace one OS image with another. It probably checks the checksum and creates the new one after the update. It is probably the gatekeeper.
Stock recovery will not replace OS with an image from SD card or from PC through USB. Only OTA.
This is the reason for flashing the custom (hacked) recovery on.
Custom recovery is made to allow additional options, such as allowing image sources such as PC or SD card, and also a ROM backup (write OS image to PC).
3. Flash update file using "upgrade from SD card" function of custom recovery now in place.
In this step, the Superuser.apk and bin files are placed. Stock recovery will not let us do that.
Also, I think the reason we can't just use ADB to "copy" superuser package to phone is because the system is either running or exists as an image (compressed?), and is probably protective of its modification. (So, likely the superuser package also replaces the checksum that the OS uses to check if it has been compromised?) Yes, this modifies your rom.
I assume that unrooting could be done after this by updating again with a file that removes superuser package and that would make your rom stock again.
4 OR flash custom ROM, which usually includes superuser package. Of course using custom rom means you no longer have stock rom.
To have a backup of original ROM, you would :
1 Unlock bootloader,
2 Flash (install) custom recovery
3 superuser doesn't matter here
4 Use custom recovery function to back up your stock ROM.
I want to know the answers to the rest of your questions as well as some clarifications to mine.
Personally, I am looking for a way to backup the stock recovery as well.
I know there are some people asking about this. The procedure appears to be as follows:
(pieced together so don't take it as a tutorial)
1 Unlock bootloader (again, unclear on this. Also some mention S-OFF and others don't)
2 With USB debugging allowed (meaning connect as device requiring a driver), Connect to a PC with ABD, and a driver installed.
3 From ADB, issue a command "adb boot recoveryimage.name" instead of the usual "adb flash recoveryimage.name".
This will make the phone boot into a custom recovery image that is residing on PC, without first writing it to the phone.
4 Unclear how, but make that custom recovery now being live to back up stock rom to pc.
5 Unclear how, but make that custom recovery now being live to flash either root or custom rom to the phone.
6 Disconnect, reboot the phone. Once in OS, use root privileges to mount recovery partition ? (this makes it visible as drive)
7 Don't know how, but use root privileges to back up now visible stock recovery partition to PC as image.
( This should give you two out of three original parts.)
Keep in mind that even if my peace-by-peace "know-how" ever works, there is at least one clearly faulty step:
The back up of the original state of the boot loader has been never made. I do not know if it is easily can be toggled back and forth from lock to unlock and back without leaving any trace. Also, like yourself, I probably don't quite understand what am I talking about, but I have tried to make as much sense of what I have read here and there.
This is my first smart phone, and my experience with linux is limited to building a minecraft server on MineOS, which was pre-made so that not much was required to make it run. I have "mounted" a partition for the first time last week, trying to break Win7recovery, booting it with Knoppix. This is why I think this is probably will come in play here too, as the recovery partition on W7 was hidden. Until then I didn't understand what mounting means, as windows always does it for you. So, take everything I say with a bunch of salt.
Please, let me know too, if you find out more. I want to flash the hell out of my Prism, but I want to be smart about it.
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check here
All your answers can be found here: [REF] [GUIDE] Welcome to your device, the Galaxy S III. For more XDA related issues check here: [GUIDE] - XDA New User Guide - Getting started on XDA
Good Luck!
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Hello all this is my first post here...woohoo!:fingers-crossed: This forum is amazing as to the amount of information available. I just wish that in looking for what I need to do I did not need to look in so many places. I feel that if I want to root my T-Mobile GS3 that all the information should be in one subsection of the forum, but it is not that simple I guess....lol Anyway any help would be greatly appreciated.
I have a Samsung GS3 with T-Mobile that I want to root. Everyone says to back up the phone before you do it but I am not really seeing how to make a backup before I start. It appears that most of the guides to root just say to backup without telling you how to fo it. Another thing (correct me if I am wrong) I see the nandroid backup that I think is a backup of the phone however it seems to be done after you make changes to the phone and I thought the backup was supposed to be done before you do anything. Is it that there is not a way to make a complete backup with an unrooted phone?
My question is basically the same as the OP here. I have been reading and reading and reading posts here in the forum. There is much information here and much of it is duplicated with slight variances in some of the duplicates. I am not certain as to which rooting method I should use. There seem to be so many choices. As a new person to this forum I will say that you can find just about everything about any phone which is awesome. The hard thing is sifting through the many options to pick one to use for your issue.
I do see that Mr. Robinson has a thread with backups of the original roms. The only thing is that they are default roms that are like an out of the box phone and not my phone with my apps and my settings. That is what I want to backup...My phone with my settings and my apps.
:good: Thank you in advance for any one that can shed some light on this for me and the OP'er
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Thanks mf2112. But those resources are seem only for GS3. And it seems it is not teaching us to backup our stock ROMs, it provides stock ROMs for us to download instead. Is there a general way to backup our stock ROMs?
Thanks,
midnite_
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You must unlock your bootloader then flash a custom recovery. You will then use that custom recovery to make a backup of your rom. That backup will be stored on your sd card.
Now, I have tried to help you and so have a couple other folks. You expect us to just give you answers step by step. I am sorry but this is simply not how XDA works. XDA is set up in a way which makes it for any users to find quickly what they want to know. Use the search feature on the site and you will find many answers. I tell you to go do your own research now and be proud of what you learn on your own. And if you cannot, please do not try to modify your phone further, you may just brick it if you aren't careful.
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Thanks mf2112. But those resources are seem only for GS3. And it seems it is not teaching us to backup our stock ROMs, it provides stock ROMs for us to download instead. Is there a general way to backup our stock ROMs?
Thanks,
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I put in the GS3 links since the OP was using that phone. Every phone will be different so I don't think a general way or guide would be practical.
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This guide assumes that you are on a stock Pantech Flex P8010 running either ICS (v4.0.4). or the updated JB (v4.1.2) Please note that rooting a ICS phone has been known to cause issues when trying to run the over the air update. If you have already rooted and are looking for a way to update to JellyBean please skip to the section on updating, if this isn't you keep reading.
So at this point you have decided to continue. You shouldn't run into any issues if you follow the directions and you shouldn't mess your phone up even if root doesn't take. However, in the spirit of covering ones back side....
I am not responsible for anything that goes wrong.
Jelly Bean 4.1.2 or ICS 4.0.4
This method was found by LuneBear and has not been tested by myself so I cannot personally verify its effectiveness. I did check and it seems to work with both ICS and JB but your mileage may vary. You will need to download SRSroot and install it on a Windows machine.
SRS ROOT
SRS Homepage
Make sure that USB debugging is enabled on your phone. Connect your phone via USB and run the program. Select the button for all root methods. Then you will need to select the Legolas exploit. Once everything is done (may take some time) just reboot the phone and you should be good to go.
Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4 ONLY
Windows Option
This method has been tried on a number of Windows versions and some work some don't so your mileage may very. This method uses Bin4ry's Root method and was orgnially discovered by aaki_rocker and is WAY LESS COMPLICATED. However please note that some users have had issues using this method with Bin4ry's latest version of the root script. It is recommended that you download an older version if you run into any issues or the root doesn't take.
First lets get some drivers on your Windows box. To do this you will need to download the Pantech PC Suite and install it.
http://c724062.r62.cf2.rackcdn.com/PantechPCSuite_1.1.1.3437.exe
Next you will need to download and extract Bin4ry's root script.
http://ul.to/z7krermj
Once you have these two files you will need to plug your phone into the PC via USB and enable the USB type as Data Mode.
Next run the Bin4ry's script and follow the directions when in doubt about what to choose select the simplest option in all cases.
If everything goes well you will have a nicely rooted phone.
Linux Option
This is not a point and click root and is not for the faint of heart. This method of rooting is based off of Bin4ry's root for ICS/JB. Changes have been made to the srcipt to allow it to work with the Flex please follow the steps below and you will have root in just a few minutes. It will probably take you longer to download the files you need than to actually root the phone.
This method has been performed successfully using Ubuntu 12.10 64bit it may work with other versions of linux but it will not work with Windows due to the driver issues and the fact that I didn't alter the windows batch file, in fact I removed any windows related files from Bin4ry's original package.
First you will need to set up the linux machine if you don't already have it. This can be done in one of a few ways you can run a live copy using a Live CD/USB boot (this will not install linux on your computer unless you tell it to) or you can install it in the standard manner or using WUBI, the third option us setting up linux in a virtual machine. If you don't know how to do this google it, there is a wealth of information out there on these subjects and probably some you can even understand without a degree in astro-physics.
Second you will need to set your phone up so that USB debug mode is turned on [settings>developer options]. Make sure you phone isnt plugged into the USB or it won't let you change the setting.
Now plug your phone into to the (linux) computer with the USB. Next you will need to set the USB computer connection type to Media Device(MTP)
In order for the computer to communicate with the phone we will need to install Android Debug Bridge (ADB) and create a couple of files.
These files will basically trick the computer into thinking it has actual drivers for the phone.
Open a terminal window, and enter the following (this will install ADB):
sudo apt-get install android-tools-adb
Once this is done enter the following
sudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-android.rules
Gedit will open at this point copy the the following into it and then click save and close the window.
SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="10a9:6055", MODE="0666"
In the terminal window enter this (yeah I know it looks the same just go with it)
sudo gedit /lib/udev/rules.d/70-android.rules
After the window opens paste the same line of code into the file that you did in the previous files, save and close.
Test your connection by issuing the following command in the terminal window:
adb devices
Should see something similar to:
OSCAR01111112010204 device
Your adb is now recognizing your phone and you can now move on to the next step if you are not getting this don't even bother moving to the next step it wont work. If you don't see this check your settings and go again.
Ok so you are now ready to actually root the phone. The first thing your going to need to do is download my modified Bin4ry script. See the attached file.
After you have it downloaded you will need to extract it you can do this by opening the file manager (click on the home folder icon) and going to download. Find the file called Root_Flex.zip. Right click on it and select EXTRACT HERE. After its done extracting you should see a directory called Root_Flex. In a terminal windows enter the following:
cd Downloads/Root_Flex
Your prompt should now look something like
[email protected]_name~/Downloads/Root_Flex$
From here just enter the command:
bash RunMeFlex.sh
At this point you should see a bunch of junk come up and a menu asking which way you want to try to root. Type 1 and press enter. It will give you 3 errors, ignore them. It should copy a bunch of files and ask you to press restore on your phone, do it. It should ask you to press Enter to reboot the phone, do so and the phone will reboot. It should be waiting on you to press enter again dont press enter until the phone is completely rebooted and for good measure give it an extra few seconds. The script should finish and the phone will reboot again this time you should see a little box with an update appear on the phone. At this point you should be rooted. If not try the script again.
I hope this helps out a lot of folks out there. Let me know if I need to change anything in this How to or if I made any mistakes along the way.
Updating If you're already rooted
So you rooted your phone and now you want JellyBean but when you run the update you get the dead droid image and the update fails OR you live in an area that isn't covered by AT&T and you want the update, what do you do? Well thanks to some hard work by Attn1 we have a solution and its pretty simple. First off you will need to have CWM running on the phone. Now there are a few ways to go about this but the method I used was here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2133857
You only need to go as far as getting CWM up an running on the phone you do not need to install it as the the update by Attn1 will take care of a full install of a better version. You will need to have a copy of Fastboot.exe and some img files. Below is a rar file that has all the necessary files to get CWM running (not installed) on the phone using windows (sorry I don't have the linux files for this one). Just unpack them into a convienent folder somewhere and follow the instructions on the link above.
http://tinyurl.com/oa2p48f
I recommend using the boot_external.img but if you do not have an external SD card and only have the internal storage just use boot_internal.img instead. This method relys on you being able to get into fast boot. If you do not have access to fastboot for what ever reason I suggest you jump ahead in the thread and read Attn1 methods for installing CWM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008888&page=44
Next get the update files from this link (second post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008888&page=47
Once you have all the files downloaded and copied everything to the appropriate SD cards on your phone your ready to go. If you don't know how to do this don't even think about anything else till you learn this. After this is all done follow the directions below (copied from Attn1's post)
Procedure if you ARE NOT running baseband JYUS06032013 (ICS Basebands) :
boot ICS CWM
flash FLEX-JB-JYUS06032013-FIRMWARE.zip from CWM
format system in CWM (will NOT wipe data, but makes sure old rom does not flash back stock recovery)
restart start recovery/adb reboot recovery (JB CWM is installed - do not try to fastboot boot ICS CWM)
flash FLEX-JB-JYUS06032013-ROM.zip from CWM.
reboot
Procedure if you ARE running baseband JYUS06032013 (JB Baseband) :
get root (Instructions HERE - use GANDALF)
install CWM (Instructions HERE)
flash FLEX-JB-JYUS06032013-FIRMWARE.zip from CWM
format system in CWM (will NOT wipe data, but makes sure old rom does not flash back stock recovery)
reboot to CWM
flash FLEX-JB-JYUS06032013-ROM.zip from CWM.
reboot
This ROM is Pantech stock with no mods other than CWM installation protection and all stock permissions and symlinks carefully maintained and consistent with the product of a successful OTA.
The firmware is also stock, with the exception of the open aboot allowing fastboot boot <bootimage>, and installation of JB CWM with nothing else added or changed. It runs well with nothing broken. You MUST be on JB firmware (below) to run it properly.
You can let the new CWM root it if you like when you exit - it will prompt you. It will also prompt you to disable CWM on reboot make sure this gets disabled or the phone will keep booting to CWM rather than the ROM.
Downloads:
md5: 1a0ca5f177bce2f4c428931616e0ecd1 FLEX-JB-JYUS06032013-FIRMWARE.zip
md5: 17c0e611ab6dfbca230571c1e40f3d14 FLEX-JB-JYUS06032013-ROM.zip
Make sure you check the md5sum on the files before you flash them if there wrong download them again this is vital.
If you need a program to check md5sums copy this .exe file to your c:\windows\system\ and run it from the command line.
http://tinyurl.com/l74wl9q
Thanks go to Bin4ry for the original script and all the technical help provided.
Check out the thread and give a thanks and donate a few bucks if you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
Thanks to Atadres for getting me going in the right direction and help testing along the way.
Thanks to Esau Silva for this post that helped get the drivers working for us in Ubutnu.
http://esausilva.com/2010/05/13/setting-up-adbusb-drivers-for-android-devices-in-linux-ubuntu/
Thanks to Aaki_rocker for coming up with the Windows version of this root method you can find his original post here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2141538
Thanks to LuneBear for finding the root method for JellyBean.
Thanks to Attn1 for the JellyBean update and CM 10.2 version of CWM Recovery.
jist a quick memo guys when you issue the command adb devices please cd to proper android sdk platform tools folder or else youll get an error like no command did you mean..... heres the proper way do this step before you do the adb devices step type in cd ~/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools press enter then type in ./adb devices
i am now trying to contact team win for help with porting the recovery image team win recovery so we can start roming this device and adding ports and roms
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jist a quick memo guys when you issue the command adb devices please cd to proper android sdk platform tools folder or else youll get an error like no command did you mean..... heres the proper way do this step before you do the adb devices step type in cd ~/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools press enter then type in ./adb devices....
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Acutally this assumes you are on a completely fresh install and did not have adb installed through the platform tools if that is the case everything I typed up will work. However you are correct too. Let me know if you think I should go ahead and rework the stuff to be a little more universal if so please PM me an update of the commands.
your right my apologies but one thing i noticed that i would like to say idk if its my experiance or universal after successfully rooting the flex the lockscreen fails to resize itself leaving a black space where the onscreen dock is usualy located no big issue though and the rooting was easy and painless once adb was set up correctly 100000+ points thanks so much
Good job guys. Respect! I have a Pantech Flex, which is an awesome device with the same specs (things that matter to me) as S3, but without big name. I like Pantech Flex because it's size is much better for me than.
The only thing now is to create a ROM! Is it difficult to make a pure Android ROM? Nothing additional, just a pure Android like in Nexus?
Again, thank you guys for your dedication! I'll definitely donate as soon as I have Jelly Bean loaded on my Pantech Flex!
Thanks, this worked great. I am gonna start on a ROM. Hope I don't get bricked.
Sent from the new Pantech Flex. Nominated best lowest priced new smartphone. U jelly I paid nothing, for a phone almost as good as the Galaxy S3?
HighCommander540 said:
Thanks, this worked great. I am gonna start on a ROM. Hope I don't get bricked.
Sent from the new Pantech Flex. Nominated best lowest priced new smartphone. U jelly I paid nothing, for a phone almost as good as the Galaxy S3?
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lets not get ahead of ourselves here guys in order to create a rom we would need to get a custom recovery on our phone this can be achived by mapping out the devices bootloader extracting an img file of it and using koushes clockworks mod recovery creator only when we achive a port of a custom recovery can we make roms and be able to flash them if any of you have knowledge of this as i am a noob when it comes to recoveries pleasae feel free to input we need all the help we can get guys
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Good job guys. Respect! I have a Pantech Flex, which is an awesome device with the same specs (things that matter to me) as S3, but without big name. I like Pantech Flex because it's size is much better for me than.
The only thing now is to create a ROM! Is it difficult to make a pure Android ROM? Nothing additional, just a pure Android like in Nexus?
Again, thank you guys for your dedication! I'll definitely donate as soon as I have Jelly Bean loaded on my Pantech Flex!
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lol right now we need knowledge donations unfourtunatly we cannot start working on roms till we have a custom recovery ported over either team win or clockworks mod recovery this will take a little bit of time and knowledge and to answer your question about the stock nexus rom your talking along the terms of a cynaogen mod port? or akop port looking into it i would say untill we have mapped the bootloader we wouldnt know how diffcult it would be because the simlinks maybe difcult for a phone that has not yet caught fire in the dev world
i wish i had the time to do a recovery myself and get cwm working but with my family and my fulltime job i barely get any time. Im going to spend all my time on this amazing little phone to do what i can. props to the root method it worked flawlessly!!!
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Awesome I'm glad im getting some good feed back on the root. I wasnt sure if I did the rightup correctly and im glad its working out for everyone.
If I get some time I will start looking into a custom CWM and all that junk I have a contact that should be a pretty good help in this just have to find the time to do it.
Yeah after coming from the LG Nitro HD I was surprised at how easy this was to root.
If you want to get together on gtalk we can work on this together. Right now I'm in the process of getting a ROM dump so we can recover our phones from stock images if we happen to mess them up, which I'm sure we will, but that's the best part! Lol.
I can smell CM9 and CM10 calling to this phone!!!
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Yeah after coming from the LG Nitro HD I was surprised at how easy this was to root.
If you want to get together on gtalk we can work on this together. Right now I'm in the process of getting a ROM dump so we can recover our phones from stock images if we happen to mess them up, which I'm sure we will, but that's the best part! Lol.
I can smell CM9 and CM10 calling to this phone!!!
Sent from my PantechP8010 using Tapatalk 2
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Yeah I love this phone but I have to say the Pantech launcher kinda pisses me off.
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Yeah I love this phone but I have to say the Pantech launcher kinda pisses me off.
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Agreed lol im using nova
I actually don't mind the launcher, its pretty nice compared to other brand launchers. I'm probably going to try launcher pro though that's been my favorite sense I had my prepaid optimus V
Sent from my PantechP8010 using Tapatalk 2
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I actually don't mind the launcher, its pretty nice compared to other brand launchers. I'm probably going to try launcher pro though that's been my favorite sense I had my prepaid optimus V
Sent from my PantechP8010 using Tapatalk 2
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I had launcher pro and hated it ... check out APEX seems like the stock ICS but with a lot of extras and without the annoying bits of the pantech that make me insane
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I had launcher pro and hated it ... check out APEX seems like the stock ICS but with a lot of extras and without the annoying bits of the pantech that make me insane
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hey guys... is there a pantech flex forum????????
also is it possible to unlock the device if you forget the log in pattern????? thanks
I don't know anything about mapping the device. So I am just going to work on a ROM for my infuse.
I will help with anything for testing. A stock image would be awesome. =-)
No flex forum yet.
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Sent from the new rooted Pantech Flex. Nominated best lowest priced new smartphone. U jelly I paid nothing, for a phone almost as good as the Galaxy S3?
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I actually don't mind the launcher, its pretty nice compared to other brand launchers. I'm probably going to try launcher pro though that's been my favorite sense I had my prepaid optimus V
Sent from my PantechP8010 using Tapatalk 2
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sense is my fav launcher and no no forum yet ive requested and gotten no reply smh
did this thread die guys?
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did this thread die guys?
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Wait till after Xmas I bet you a lot of people will get this phone as presents.
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Wait till after Xmas I bet you a lot of people will get this phone as presents.
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Yeah I can see that happening. This weekend I am going to work on it to see what I can come up with. I've been so swamped with work and life bs that I haven't had a chance.
No this thread didn't die.
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:fingers-crossed: ok so I've FINALLY been able to root my net10 zte merit z990g using a simple .zip install suggestr
d to me by a friend. (I know I took the easy way)
Since rooting it, I've went from the factory 2.3.5 stock and installed an ICS based verioson, which seems to be running great minor exception internet browser crashed & installation of opera web browser seemed to work smoothly on.
Since rooting it, I've bought another phone (Lg Optimus Dynamic) and activated it so that I may study the rooted device futher.
My questions are as follows:
1. Could someone possibly tell me the complete list of su commands are for my zte merit z990g and how to enter them? (Id like to use my su rights to explore the device componets, network (since its deactivated and has no working sim) and bootloader files/settings, etc for my own educational purposes to POSSIBLY futher my knowledge of the android based device. (quite new still yet to the whole technology mods, hacks & tricks) as well as explaining the whole shell thing?
2. Bootloader: how do I know if its unlocked, and if it isnt then what do I do to unlock it?
3. Is it possibe for one flash or install another custom rom or kernel to unlock a device? As stated I've went from gingerbread 2.3.5 to ICS . I first installed a .zip of TouchNav then a DexMeritRoot. zip, shortly after that I installed the ICS.zip. Though it seems to be stable, the battery drains extremly quick and there still is hardly any memory. Any ideas on a tweak setting to optimize
these issues?
4. Does anyone have another suggestion for a rom that I could try?
I ask advice as I know there are possibly other users out in the xda forum who are waaay more experienced with this device and could possibly share their wisdom with an inexperienced noob thats looking to expand her knowledge. So far, whats been done since the root, Ive enjoyed it (I use it to connect via wifi only to connect with friends and play online games when not tinkering with trying to enhance it to full potential) Ive just grown sightly accustomed to the udated zip of ICS and would like to try something new.
So, there it is guys, is there anyone who would like to offer their advice on the subjects? Id love to get some feedback.
Thanks in advance!!
ok, so I now know that I can install a .zip custom rom contaning no kernel since the merit is known to have issues rebooting and its linked to an "unstable kernel....but this confuses me. Doesnt the android based Zte Merit z990g have to have a kernel to function??
And I've come across the Stayboggy blue steel custom rom but Im apperhensive due to conflicting replies in the forum area I located it in. Dont get me wrong, he has some wonderful ROMS and software that Ive researched online. I just get a little nervous upon installing anything (Fear of drastic noob brick)
I've yet to find any real answers in my researches just yet, however I will continue to explore the device.
I guess upon reading Ive realized the bootloader thing has pretty much been addressed all on its own. Im guessing I wouldnt of been able to install the icecream Scamwhich custom rom, version of the ICS, would I??
Im still trying to find out the whole su commands, how to create shell etc so thats what Im tryin to grasp now.
Still would appreciate any opinions, and advice from others. on anything in the thread...
Okay so just to clear a few things up.
The bootloader for the merit is already unlocked due to Touch Nav being able to be flashed and replace the Stock Recovery with the update.zip. The bootloader would be the first menu that you "tampered" with in order to flash a permanent recovery that would allow you to use Touch Nav or ClockWorkMod recovery and then install ROMS. In my experience, I haven't ever come across a ROM being "pre-unlocked". This is because the way to unlock most phones is using the IMEI and being that is different in every phone it just can't be done until after the ROM is flashed. Some phones have apps for them like the Galaxy line and others are harder to unlock.
As far as running shell commands, you'll need to do that through ADB or a Terminal App. That's really the manual way of performing tasks on your device like pushing or pulling files with read/write privileges aka SuperUser. So it depends on what all is you want to try to learn to do manually. Like pulling system apps from your phone, replacing boot animations zip files, or what have you. In ADB, if your device is connected and have ADB debugging checked off you can try the command: "Adb devices". Minus the parentheses to check if can run other commands. "Adb help" will show you a quick command paragraph. You should still Google ADB commands or Android Terminal commands to explore further. Since your phone doesn't have a service, I recommend you trying a voip app to make calls through wifi just as neat thing to mess around with. Well that's just a bit of what I've gathered in my short time here in Xda Developers. If you like the challenge of research in the android/Linux world, this is really exciting way to start.
Oh and as far as the Ice scam Sandwich ROM, it is still Gingerbread. It's only themed system ui to look like ICS. There isn't an ICS based rom out for the ZTE Merit. Even SpeedFreak2.0 is Gingerbread. The low system storage issue was greatly addressed in SpeedFreak2.0 by creating an sd-ext3 partition on the micro sd. I had to create that in either TouchNav or ClockWorkMod and format. So backup all your data prior to doing this and installing the New Rom. I now have 4gb free of system storage and the Merit clocking at 864mhz. Pay close attention as I believe you install that ROM by restoring a backup file NOT flashing the. zip.
Now for the unstable kernel, I would recommend you download the 1.0 kernel I mentioned in another thread. The kernel comes in the ROM and it wouldn't run "without a kernel". Again, this would be after installing SpeedFreak2.0 by backup restore using ClockWorkMod that I believe is installed by flashing an update.zip that reboots TouchNav and let's you use a Temporary ClockWorkMod from which to backup(install) SpeedFreak2.0. You extract the SpeedFreak2.0. zip and get the backup file from there. I hope I made sense. I'm up late and I'll come back and check on you. Feel free to PM me if you find yourself lost.
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I just bought a Samsung tab 3v then I successfully rooted it using this: ( www 4shared com/get/4sFqkNODba/ ) but after I did that I could no longer use the camera (error then force close) so I'm asking if anyone could help me with that please? I did few research they said it's something about the kernel so anyone could provide me with one for my phone?
Someone please help me with this? At least provide me with an already rooted rom.
Stanwar said:
Someone please help me with this? At least provide me with an already rooted rom.
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have a look through these and see if you can find a kernel :
https://www.google.com/search?q=SM-...es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#q=SM-T116bu+return+to+stock
i didnt see any promising leads on google for a rom, so your only alternative may be to return to stock. have a look through these for a possible way to do that :
https://www.google.com/search?q=SM-...es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#q=SM-T116bu+return+to+stock
one small tip for future reference.
you should figure out how to fix your phone and have the tools and files on hand before making any modifications.
personally, i never do anything to my phone before thoroughly learning how to fix it, and if i cant find a way, then i dont mod it.
i see all the time on here, people frantic because they broke their phone and dont have a clue how to fix it.
in some cases there is no way to fix it because the files are not available, its really important to know that before you break it.
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one small tip for future reference.
you should figure out how to fix your phone and have the tools and files on hand before making any modifications.
personally, i never do anything to my phone before thoroughly learning how to fix it, and if i cant find a way, then i dont mod it.
i see all the time on here, people frantic because they broke their phone and dont have a clue how to fix it.
in some cases there is no way to fix it because the files are not available, its really important to know that before you break it.
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Didn't you actually 'think' that I already searched for that on Google? Please try to 'think' that if you don't do mistakes you will never learn so yeah not breaking your phone doesn't mean you're smart OR intelligent.
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Didn't you actually 'think' that I already searched for that on Google? Please try to 'think' that if you don't do mistakes you will never learn so yeah not breaking your phone doesn't mean you're smart OR intelligent.
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There's no need to be rude... He was trying to help you
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Didn't you actually 'think' that I already searched for that on Google? Please try to 'think' that if you don't do mistakes you will never learn so yeah not breaking your phone doesn't mean you're smart OR intelligent.
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i never implied that you or anyone else wasnt "smart or intelligent"
i have broken my phones many times. the difference between me and a lot of users i see posting here is, i think about what would happen if i do something and it breaks the phone, before i actually do it. then i go and find out how to restore stock, and gather the files and tools first. then i actually restore stock, just so im sure i know how to do it first.
i see and help countless users here on xda, and frequently see people run to flash things they think they have to have right away. frequently that is followed by post pleading for help, because they failed to understand the journey, and chose to jump right to the finish line.
so yes, i agree, not breaking your phone doesnt make you smart or intelligent. knowing how to fix it, and helping others to fix theirs for many years, at minimum should gain those of us who help others a little respect, because we dont get paid to, nor have any obligation to, help anyone.
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There's no need to be rude... He was trying to help you
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How come? Posting a Google link is actually helping? Then next time someone asks who's that guy, you tell him Google it. I did come here for a reason, which is finding a developer who can make a prerooted rom for me since it doesn't exist anywhere in the Web.
Anyway I found a solution I will post it here in case someone needed it:
1- Flash the tablet with stock rom (the one of your SM-T116bu) skip to 2 if you already have the stock rom and you only want to root the tablet.
2- Get a file explorer (ES explorer or root explorer).
3- Browse to system/lib and copy the whole lib folder and put it somewhere you can access it later.
4- Flash your tablet using the prerooted SM-T116nu rom (link is above).
5- Using the root explorer replace all files in the system/lib which has a 'camera' word in their name with the same files name from the lib folder of the stock rom, do the same with the files in system/lib/hw6- Reboot your device and the camera should work again.
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How come? Posting a Google link is actually helping? because believe it or not, some people dont know the best key words to get the results that would actually be helpful, and a lot of times, they dont try at all. so occasionally i try to point them in the right direction, in the hope that they will actually try to help themself, because i cant be of further assistance. Then next time someone asks who's that guy, you tell him Google it. I did come here for a reason, which is finding a developer who can make a prerooted rom for me i can tell you right away, thats not going to happen. this site isnt a place where devs sit waiting for people to make request, so they can make stuff for them. xda is a place where you come to learn how to make it yourself, if you dont already know how, and support the community with it. since it doesn't exist anywhere in the Web.
Anyway I found a solution I will post it here in case someone needed it:
1- Flash the tablet with stock rom (the one of your SM-T116bu) skip to 2 if you already have the stock rom and you only want to root the tablet.
2- Get a file explorer (ES explorer or root explorer).
3- Browse to system/lib and copy the whole lib folder and put it somewhere you can access it later.
4- Flash your tablet using the prerooted SM-T116nu rom (link is above).
5- Using the root explorer replace all files in the system/lib which has a 'camera' word in their name with the same files name from the lib folder of the stock rom, do the same with the files in system/lib/hw6- Reboot your device and the camera should work again.
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^^^^^
Stanwar said:
How come? Posting a Google link is actually helping? Then next time someone asks who's that guy, you tell him Google it. I did come here for a reason, which is finding a developer who can make a prerooted rom for me since it doesn't exist anywhere in the Web.
Anyway I found a solution I will post it here in case someone needed it:
1- Flash the tablet with stock rom (the one of your SM-T116bu) skip to 2 if you already have the stock rom and you only want to root the tablet.
2- Get a file explorer (ES explorer or root explorer).
3- Browse to system/lib and copy the whole lib folder and put it somewhere you can access it later.
4- Flash your tablet using the prerooted SM-T116nu rom (link is above).
5- Using the root explorer replace all files in the system/lib which has a 'camera' word in their name with the same files name from the lib folder of the stock rom, do the same with the files in system/lib/hw6- Reboot your device and the camera should work again.
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1. First respect others, no one gets paid or forced to do anything here
2. What kinda help you want ? if you want the most perfect thing all the times than I'm sorry as we only have humans here, not super computers with everything stored on them !
T116BU Tab E Rooted Without Camera or Unrooted? I want neither... Can anybody help?
Stanwar said:
How come? Posting a Google link is actually helping? Then next time someone asks who's that guy, you tell him Google it. I did come here for a reason, which is finding a developer who can make a prerooted rom for me since it doesn't exist anywhere in the Web.
Anyway I found a solution I will post it here in case someone needed it:
1- Flash the tablet with stock rom (the one of your SM-T116bu) skip to 2 if you already have the stock rom and you only want to root the tablet.
2- Get a file explorer (ES explorer or root explorer).
3- Browse to system/lib and copy the whole lib folder and put it somewhere you can access it later.
4- Flash your tablet using the prerooted SM-T116nu rom (link is above).
5- Using the root explorer replace all files in the system/lib which has a 'camera' word in their name with the same files name from the lib folder of the stock rom, do the same with the files in system/lib/hw6- Reboot your device and the camera should work again.
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Thanks, but your method soft bricks (black screen, can't operate the phone at all after booting) the phone until I flash the rooted or the official ROM again. There's no hw6 folder either, just hw and even changing only the lib files with camera in their names will also soft brick the phone.
I found a solution!!!
Restored my phone to the latest official ROM, then flashed the tiny file from the topic below using ODIN.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=10223#downloads
Worked like a charm!
Fdamaral said:
Thanks, but your method soft bricks (black screen, can't operate the phone at all after booting) the phone until I flash the rooted or the official ROM again. There's no hw6 folder either, just hw and even changing only the lib files with camera in their names will also soft brick the phone.
I found a solution!!!
Restored my phone to the latest official ROM, then flashed the tiny file from the topic below using ODIN.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=10223#downloads
Worked like a charm!
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The solution was so nice that I even made a short video explaining what I did with my Samsung Galaxy Tab E SM-T116BU from Brazil!!