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So yeah just got my N4 today and was slightly disappointed when I realized that my N4 screen protector from BSE did not cover the entire screen. Im using the official bumper and would like a list of screen protectors that come right up to the bumper if anyone knows of one, thank you.
A lot of them will not because of the curved edges of the nexus 4, which will cause the protector to bubble up fast and start getting loose... 2c
Oh...do you know of any that go to the edge of the bumper or that come close?
The Skinomi I put on last night goes almost edge to edge. Any case will cover the rest of the gap. On the sides, it's probably 1 mm on each side. I don't know if you already know this trick, but to get the sides to stick down you have to wait a few minutes for the skin that is going to touch the screen to dry up a bit. It needs to become sticky in order to stay down. I wait another minute or two and keep trying to keep the edges down. Eventually the skin stays down on the curved edges. I lined up the top perfectly, and the bottom is a little over 1 mm from completely covering the front. The back is even a better fit, less than 1 mm missing from all four edges. Really great coverage. Now the sides, eh, it's a ***** to get the curved corners. I just ordered the stock bumper and will use that to protect the edges before they get more dinged.
That just my 2 cents. oh, btw, the Skinomi was very very little orange-peel look, and it's almost like a mirror. The best skin I've ever used so far (Xtreme Skin, Skinomi, and Zagg).
Antebios said:
The Skinomi I put on last night goes almost edge to edge. Any case will cover the rest of the gap. On the sides, it's probably 1 mm on each side. I don't know if you already know this trick, but to get the sides to stick down you have to wait a few minutes for the skin that is going to touch the screen to dry up a bit. It needs to become sticky in order to stay down. I wait another minute or two and keep trying to keep the edges down. Eventually the skin stays down on the curved edges. I lined up the top perfectly, and the bottom is a little over 1 mm from completely covering the front. The back is even a better fit, less than 1 mm missing from all four edges. Really great coverage. Now the sides, eh, it's a ***** to get the curved corners. I just ordered the stock bumper and will use that to protect the edges before they get more dinged.
That just my 2 cents. oh, btw, the Skinomi was very very little orange-peel look, and it's almost like a mirror. The best skin I've ever used so far (Xtreme Skin, Skinomi, and Zagg).
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Have you ever tried the spigen ultra crystal? Just ordered it.
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Crisisx1 said:
Have you ever tried the spigen ultra crystal? Just ordered it.
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I got mine today and the front protector stops a little short of the curved edges. I also lined it up very close at the top which I would advise giving it a little room because mine didn't reach all the way down to the bottom. The back one fit really well and was a little difficult to line up because of how well it fits. Overall I like their protectors but they are a bit pricy for a single set but the quality is great.
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I got mine today and the front protector stops a little short of the curved edges. I also lined it up very close at the top which I would advise giving it a little room because mine didn't reach all the way down to the bottom. The back one fit really well and was a little difficult to line up because of how well it fits. Overall I like their protectors but they are a bit pricy for a single set but the quality is great.
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Yeah they are a bit pricey. I bought mine off their ebay store , no tax or shipping. $13.99
I've read on their site that the front is cut a bit smaller due to the edge design of the n4 so it prevents from peeling or something.
I think another positive to that, is if you use a case... Because the screen protector is a bit short the case will not lift it because it doesn't touch it.
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I recommend Xtremeguard. Goes edge to edge completely with a tiny 1mm gap at the top, has no orange peel effect if applied properly and left to dry and their customer service is amazing.
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Here is a list of all the screen protectors out there (it is detailed which of them covers the whole screen and which doesn't) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35897428
NoL1m1tZ said:
Oh...do you know of any that go to the edge of the bumper or that come close?
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The Skinomi goes all the way to the edge (or almost). The problem here is that it's so close to the edge, my case just peeled it right off.
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Have you ever tried the spigen ultra crystal? Just ordered it.
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The Spigen on the other hand is cut short. It isn't just cut short horizontally (which I understand) but also cut short vertically as well. As stated above, a typical case (I have the Diztronic) covers around 1mm around the side. The SGP is cut short on the bottom by 1.5mm and 1mm on top. So while it's flush on the top, it's not flush on the bottom. You could minimize this by making it 1.2mm on both sides, but that's just too much work.
SGP Case: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157632671632748/
Skinomi Case: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157632205914659/
On the propped up picture of the Skinomi, you can see that it's pretty much flush with the end.
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My experience reminds me how much I hate screen protectors and bare glass is always better... until it gets scratched.
Why did I spend $20+ on pieces of plastic :crying:
A had problems with the skinomi type screen protectors because of the curved edges. They would collect dust right at the edge and never stick. My trick is to apply all of the pieces, and then wrap the phone tightly in plastic wrap. Make sure to use a paper towel to blot the access moisture. After about an hour or two, the edges were down for good.and I could let it dry normally.
Overkill? Maybe, but it's worked well for me each time I had to install skinomi on a curved surface
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Have you ever tried the spigen ultra crystal? Just ordered it.
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I've been using it for the past week. Well worth the money. It feels just like glass.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
I've been using it for the past week. Well worth the money. It feels just like glass.
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That's good to hear. Glad I ordered one.
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That's good to hear. Glad I ordered one.
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Installing it is annoying though. The screen is very slippery so the protector will slide around alot when you're trying to like it up. Be sure to do it in the bathroom after a shower, so all the dust has settled and you're naked. Being naked is key to a perfect installation. Weird but true.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
Installing it is annoying though. The screen is very slippery so the protector will slide around alot when you're trying to like it up. Be sure to do it in the bathroom after a shower, so all the dust has settled and you're naked. Being naked is key to a perfect installation. Weird but true.
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Lmfao. Thanks.
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FatalityBoyZahy said:
Installing it is annoying though. The screen is very slippery so the protector will slide around alot when you're trying to like it up. Be sure to do it in the bathroom after a shower, so all the dust has settled and you're naked. Being naked is key to a perfect installation. Weird but true.
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Being naked is not weird at all. I do that as well when I apply my screen protectors. Clothes most often carry a lot of dust, even clean clothes. So wearing them and with movement you can release a lot of dust back into the air. Although my girlfriend laughs at me every time I "hide" in the toilet for 20 mins performing the "perfect install".
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If you would be willing to fork over a pretty penny, there are the tempered glass screen protectors by Clarivue and XGear. I think Clarivue is out already, but the XGear is still in production.
I'm pretty sure they would cover the whole screen.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
Installing it is annoying though. The screen is very slippery so the protector will slide around alot when you're trying to like it up. Be sure to do it in the bathroom after a shower, so all the dust has settled and you're naked. Being naked is key to a perfect installation. Weird but true.
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Zagg shield secret!
I just got my official Nexus 4 bumper a few days ago, and I've had my Skinomi on for the past week. There is no way the bumper is going to peel it off. The bumper stays on my gripping the 4 corners and the top and bottom metal frame edge. There is almost no grip on the sides, but not that it matters, because the bumper is NOT coming off. I wish the Skinomi, or any skin for that matter, can reach the absolute edge.
As some of fellow SXZ owners I have removed both front and back factory antishatter films as they were dust and scratch magnets. I was enjoying the improved clarity of the screen and premium look of the phone, but the only thing I was missing was the oleophobic coating. Well, I have ordered GLAS.t Slim, but it it will take some time to arrive, so I decided to experiment. While in the supermarket, I just sprayed a coat of some random nanotech spray car wax on the screen and buffed it with a microfiber cloth. Also I have cleaned the screen first with some glass cleaner. Well, guess what. I now have an oleophobic coating on my naked SXZ! Finger glides perfectly on the screen, prints are very easy to wipe even on jeans and smudges don't appear as easy. So I would suggest the following procedure to get a fully working durable oleophobic coating on our SXZs:
1. Use a good glass cleaner spray to thoroughly clean the screen
2. Spray a coat of nanotech car wax (comes in a spray bottle and advertises a protective coating), buff with a microfiber cloth while it's wet. Repeat 3-5 times.
3. Enjoy!
Will have yet to figure the best car wax brand for the purpose of creating a lasting and durable oleophobic coating, but for now this random stuff works wonders. Will probably buy a bottle next time I'm in the store. Will use it on my car too. It's like $3 smth.
Please post what had worked best for you.
Oh, and DISCLAIMER: I will not be held responsible for any damages you do to your phone while trying this suggested method. Proceed with caution AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Glad to see a post about this!
Today I got some turtle wax Ice liquid polish - same results as you, screen is super, super smooth - and no fingerprints. It's like having an oleophobic coating applied.
I'm impressed. I was going to get a glas.t - but now I'm not so sure I need it.
The front glass is dragontrail - not exactly easy to scratch / smash.
Aha! As a car geek I have TONS of this stuff in the garage! Going to give it a try later.
I will, however, try it on top of the screen protector - no amount of spray wax will stop scratches.
Good luck trying to scratch dragon trail or gorilla glass unless you're really trying to!
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I quite like the SONY logo on the screen, so don't really want to peel of the shatterproof protector.
Rainex anyone :thumbup:
Great stuff too for car windshields and phone
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Two questions about this:
- did you protect the mic/loudspeaker holes while applying it?
- does your phone feels slippery now, for instance when you trying to get it out of your pocket?
Thanks
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No and No. I didn't spray it all over, though. Just the center of the screen. So I guess you should use caution.
adamsweeting said:
Good luck trying to scratch dragon trail or gorilla glass unless you're really trying to!
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It's very easy to scratch Gorilla Glass mate... what it takes is a single grain of sand in your pocket, you won't even know you scratched it. It's not that scratch resistant...
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Two questions about this:
- did you protect the mic/loudspeaker holes while applying it?
- does your phone feels slippery now, for instance when you trying to get it out of your pocket?
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As heretic said....
No & No.
Only applied the wax to the screen. It makes such a difference.
Hi guys, thanks for the tip! Can you post a link or photo of an example of the spray you used for this purpose? :good:
Turtle wax ice window cleaning liquid with water repelling effect works great for me. Screen is smooth and slippery. The prints do catch, but seems to come off much easier.
The overall feel is pretty much the same as my htc one x's factory oleophobic coating, but maybe slightly better.
the biggest pro for this one is that it does not need any preps - just spray some on a microfiber cloth, spread on the screen and wipe with another dry microfiber. Profit.
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graffus said:
Hi guys, thanks for the tip! Can you post a link or photo of an example of the spray you used for this purpose? :good:
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I've used 3M spray car wax.
Anyway, test whatever you use in the bottom of the phone first, just in case...
Also check the wax doesn't have an abrasive agent...
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lhurtado said:
I've used 3M spray car wax.
Anyway, test whatever you use in the bottom of the phone first, just in case...
Also check the wax doesn't have an abrasive agent...
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If you can post a link to 3M car wax, will be great.
Thanks
How long does it last that's the question
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If it's at least 30 days I'm getting this for all my devices, TV's, windows, car and if possible I'll paint it on the house!
any updates on how long this last?
Mine is still as good as new...
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shulmus said:
Mine is still as good as new...
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so its been a week-ish hmmm
Seeing as how you already removed the shatterproof film, can you post pictures of how raised the Glas.T slim is from the edge of the Xperia Z?
I want to order the Glas.T, but chipping issues want me to stray away... If removing the shatterproof film makes the Glas.T flush with the edge, I think it might help prevent chips which would be awesome!
heretic said:
As some of fellow SXZ owners I have removed both front and back factory antishatter films as they were dust and scratch magnets. I was enjoying the improved clarity of the screen and premium look of the phone, but the only thing I was missing was the oleophobic coating. Well, I have ordered GLAS.t Slim, but it it will take some time to arrive, so I decided to experiment. While in the supermarket, I just sprayed a coat of some random nanotech spray car wax on the screen and buffed it with a microfiber cloth. Also I have cleaned the screen first with some glass cleaner. Well, guess what. I now have an oleophobic coating on my naked SXZ! Finger glides perfectly on the screen, prints are very easy to wipe even on jeans and smudges don't appear as easy. So I would suggest the following procedure to get a fully working durable oleophobic coating on our SXZs:
1. Use a good glass cleaner spray to thoroughly clean the screen
2. Spray a coat of nanotech car wax (comes in a spray bottle and advertises a protective coating), buff with a microfiber cloth while it's wet. Repeat 3-5 times.
3. Enjoy!
Will have yet to figure the best car wax brand for the purpose of creating a lasting and durable oleophobic coating, but for now this random stuff works wonders. Will probably buy a bottle next time I'm in the store. Will use it on my car too. It's like $3 smth.
Please post what had worked best for you.
Oh, and DISCLAIMER: I will not be held responsible for any damages you do to your phone while trying this suggested method. Proceed with caution AT YOUR OWN RISK!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2FEdzsSuqY
This has got to be the worst most perfectly applied glass screen protector install I've ever seen. I have to give it to the guy for not giving up. And now I know if I ever mess up badly, there is always a way to fix it
And the combination he is using looks really protective. Wonder if it would work out the same way with the defender.
With the Spigen glass protector, it's best to remove it immediately if you find that there is a fault. Once the adhesive has set, it makes removing it really difficult.
Bwahaha this dude got to be the worst but props to him for finally getting it done
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Hahaha makes me look like a pro
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took me countless of tries to install mine, till ive to wash n wash...
after those exp, it took me only 1 try to install on my wife's NOTE 2.
Wow, I definitely would have given up.
I guess the guy missed this bit on the Amazon product page (original emphasis):
When installing iloome ScreenMate products, please make sure the installation area is completely free of dust and lint, as removing the advesive film, or sticky side, may result in small pieces of lint adhering to the glass. In case lint and dust gets on the adhesive, you may carefully remove it by CAREFULLY using a small piece of tape.
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Wow! He f'ed it up pretty well there with a bunch of lint on the adhesive side!
I don't really know how to call that coating and am not even sure if it's a coating or the whole backplate is made of the material that gives the grip. I just want to know if it's going to get scratched/scraped off by usage because this will pretty much determine if I'll get a case for the phone or not. I never had a case on my phone before and I don't really want one unless I'll need one. And I'll need one if it's required to keep my phone in perfect condition.
I assume it will, but covered it with a silicone case an ghost armor on the front.
The camera bulge made case necessary for my usage.
Of course YMMV some, but it seems the front glass likes to shatter easy on side hits, at least from what I've read.
So back plate scratches would be the least of my concern with that camera glass bulge.
Don't know if that helps, but it didn't cost you anything to read it ?
WR
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I got mine at launch and never put a case on it. Mine is scratch free on the back and the glass. Just don't put it in your pocket if its full of diamonds.
The soft touch plastic can get scratched by keys or even coins. Same can be said for the white glossy sides.
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The soft touch plastic can get scratched by keys or even coins. Same can be said for the white glossy sides.
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The white and black versions are a bit different. As far as i have heard the black one is harder to scratch. And it has the same material all around. As opposed to the white one with gloss added.
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El Daddy said:
I got mine at launch and never put a case on it. Mine is scratch free on the back and the glass. Just don't put it in your pocket if its full of diamonds.
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Well, it's always sitting in my pocket alone, but I also dealt with some other stuff that was covered in this substance and by normal usage the substance scratched off so that's why it raised my concern. Plus I had HTC HD2 which also had it's backplate covered in something (not this substance though) and it also got scratched up pretty badly by daily use (I really care about my phones) and it was in my pocket alone.
I've had the phone for almost two months now and have yet to use a case and it's still scratch free. I would just make sure to keep whatever pocket you use for your phone empty at all times except for the device itself. The only issue I have is getting dust out of the edges of the screen where the plastic meets the glass...easily fixed with a duster air gun or just using a thin piece of paper and sliding it through the grooves to remove the dust.
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The white and black versions are a bit different. As far as i have heard the black one is harder to scratch. And it has the same material all around. As opposed to the white one with gloss added.
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Not sure which scratches easier but both are susceptible to scratches by metal or even hard plastic unlike the Gorilla Glass screen. Case in point being the hard cases scratching both the soft touch and glossy coatings alike.
What are people's thoughts on removing the black/white paint on the metal sides so that the whole trim is silver/brushed aluminium? Good or bad idea?
What would be the best way to do it? Rubbing lightly with a scourer while holding a vacuum nozzle nearby to make sure fine particles don't get into the phone?
Some sort of solvent?
What sort of problems could occur?
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What are people's thoughts on removing the black/white paint on the metal sides so that the whole trim is silver/brushed aluminium? Good or bad idea?
What would be the best way to do it? Rubbing lightly with a scourer while holding a vacuum nozzle nearby to make sure fine particles don't get into the phone?
Some sort of solvent?
What sort of problems could occur?
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Sorry to say but it sounds like a bad idea.. How do you know it's all brushed silver underneath? I guess, as long as you don't scratch it with too much force, you will be fine.. Not sure about the parts surrounding the antenna's though
First, the material is definitely not silver. Most likely aluminum unless samsung went with magnesium like moto did.
From careful inspection the shiny aluminum bezel is not a single piece along with the painted frame so I can't guarantee you that they are even the same material and appear the same once the paint is stripped off.
Finally, paint seems highly unlikely. Note 3 had painted plastic frames which deteriorated very quick. If it's using aluminum my best guess would be that it's been anodized.
Not an expert but to get rid of anodizing I believe you dunk the material in a pool of solvent which I definitely don't think you want to do with your phone.
I definitely wouldn't try to remove it by rubbing it, you would end up with uneven areas.
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First, the material is definitely not silver. Most likely aluminum unless samsung went with magnesium like moto.
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I probably should have said silver coloured not silver as I agree that the material is definitely not silver. I have noticed some people mentioning that their note 4/note edge had easily developed scratches on the coloured part of the frame. I was wondering if this meant the coating was not extremely hard to remove. If a very gentle abrasive pad was rubbed along the sides in a consistent lengthwise motion, do you think that it would scratch it enough to expose the metal underneath? I am not really considering this for myself as I am super careful with my phones (although I don't use a case) but if someone's sides got very scratched up then would this be an option to hide the scratches within many small scratches (brushed look)?
I agree that we can't really tell what is under the coating in terms of colour or joins etc.
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I probably should have said silver coloured not silver as I agree that the material is definitely not silver. I have noticed some people mentioning that their note 4/note edge had easily developed scratches on the coloured part of the frame. I was wondering if this meant the coating was not extremely hard to remove. If a very gentle abrasive pad was rubbed along the sides in a consistent lengthwise motion, do you think that it would scratch it enough to expose the metal underneath? I am not really considering this for myself as I am super careful with my phones (although I don't use a case) but if someone's sides got very scratched up then would this be an option to hide the scratches within many small scratches (brushed look)?
I agree that we can't really tell what is under the coating in terms of colour or joins etc.
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Unless you have worked with aluminum before and have extensive experience in working with it. I doubt that even if you could rub it off you would never be able to do it evenly.
Basically you will do more damage than you would hide most likely
I can see it now people opening up phone body shops for custom paint jobs..and not just screen repairs. .lol
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Its aluminium underneath the paint.
Its aluminium underneath the paint. Atleast for the white model. Just a thick coat of white paint over the aluminium. Saw a demo phone's paint chipped due to a dent so I know for sure.
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Its aluminium underneath the paint. Atleast for the white model. Just a thick coat of white paint over the aluminium. Saw a demo phone's paint chipped due to a dent so I know for sure.
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i'll wait till it chips itself off
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i'll wait till it chips itself off
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Ya if this ever happens I'll just let it all chip haha I doubt I'd be ever be able to get a smooth finish once again.
I don't think it will ever chip off. The finish is very well done and nothing like the paint over plastic of previous galaxy phones.