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C'mon Google...I know you do can do better than Apple or Microsoft. Need to improve this update thing now that Android is gaining momentum to mainstream market. Things like this will lose users to go back to other OS especially where security and latest update is needed.
iOS 4 has 90 percent share amongst iOS device owners. What about Android 2.3? 0.4 percent, as of a couple weeks ago. Yes, that’s zero point four percent.
Okay, I realize it’s a little unfair to compare iOS 4 to Android 2.3 since the latter was just released and is only available on one phone (again, the Nexus S). Still, the fact that it’s still only available on one phone weeks after being made public says a lot.
But for the sake of this being slightly more fair, let’s compare iOS 4 to Android 2.2 — an OS which came out well before iOS 4. The adoption rate there? 51.8 percent. That’s still pretty pathetic.
Obviously, this isn’t the Android users’ faults. The problem is that the OEMs and carriers are holding these updates up for a wide variety of reasons, 99 percent of which are undoubtedly bull****. Here’s a perfect example. Supposedly, the Android 2.2 update is all ready to go for Samsung Android phones on T-Mobile, but Samsung doesn’t want to push it out so that they can entice people to buy the newly announced Vibrant 4G+ instead.
Lovely.
Instead, many Samsung T-mobile Android users are struck with Android 2.1. An OS that while perhaps only a year old, is now two full revisions old in Android land. A dinosaur, in other words. And they’re hardly alone. Some 35.2 percent of all Android users are stuck on this same version of the OS.
Imagine if 35 percent of all iOS users were stuck on iOS 2 (which is so old that it wasn’t even called ‘iOS” at the time), while a few of us had iOS 4 and the majority of us had iOS 3? Yeah…
Even more humorous is the fact that over 12 percent of Android users are still stuck on Android 1.5 and 1.6. I mean, Android 1.5 is nearly two years old now. And again, more importantly, it’s four major revisions ago. iOS hasn’t even gone through four major revisions yet.
So it’s sort of like if a few iPhone users had iOS 4, the majority had iOS 3, a good number had iOS 2, some had iOS 1, and then nearly 5 percent were stuck using MotoROKRs.
Google, meanwhile, keeps promising that this sad trend is going to improve. They’re sure that the carriers are eventually going to see the light and get in line any day now. Those 99.6 percent of Android users who’ve seen Android 2.3 — but can’t use it — are waiting awfully patiently.
Meanwhile, the iPhone will launch on its second U.S. carrier in less than a month. And it will launch with either iOS 4.2.5 or iOS 4.3. The same OS that every single other iOS user will have access to.
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source: http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/17/ios-android-breakdown/
From the replies on that article:
Android users on Android 2.0, 2.1, 2.2: 87%.
iOS users on iOS 4.0, 4.1, 4.2: 89.75%.
What's the percent of people upgrading to Windows 7?
Hell, I'm still on XP and like it.
Even more humorous is the fact that over 12 percent of Android users are still stuck on Android 1.5 and 1.6. I mean, Android 1.5 is nearly two years old now. And again, more importantly, it’s four major revisions ago. iOS hasn’t even gone through four major revisions yet.
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Umm.. yeah.
It's easy to update at a snail's pace.
I guess Android is updated so often that it's hard to keep up sometimes.
There's 3 kind's of lies.
Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics.
That article sure has alot of statistics.
dekeijzer said:
From the replies on that article:
Android users on Android 2.0, 2.1, 2.2: 87%.
iOS users on iOS 4.0, 4.1, 4.2: 89.75%.
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I saw that. But this "the above ones are probably best to compare with Android revisions because .X updates in iOS tend to be pretty minor (bug fixes), while .X in Android are usually pretty major (new features)." He is trying to say .x in iOS is not same as .x in android and that the 89% of iOS is not the same as the 87% of Android users
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What's the percent of people upgrading to Windows 7?
Hell, I'm still on XP and like it.
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In windows world, I guess it's like 7 vs 7 with service packs. For XP, XP & SP1, XP & SP2, and XP & SP3. I guess iOS 4.x, or Android 2.x is equivalent to 7 and 7.x or XP and XP.x. XP to Windows 7 is not the same and too different. XP is not the oldest, Windows 1.01 is the oldest OS of "Windows" iOS 3.x to 4.x is not that different. Windows 1.x to 7 is drastically different...probably 99% differnt even the HAL are different already.
Even if Android did not get only a yearly update I wouldn´t go to apple
Said that it would be great to have more frequent updates indeed.
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Even if Android did not get only a yearly update I wouldn´t go to apple
Said that it would be great to have more frequent updates indeed.
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Android might lose battle to iphone in the long run to business community if they don't clean this up. Business and Enterprise mobile deployer likes me like to be up-to-date on patches and security...not behind. Android currently lacks enterprise control like mass group policy stuff. I already worked with Windows, Apple, and Blackbery, but wanted to try something new thus giving android a try, but if they don't have anything for enterprise deployment or control like group policy and stuff later, then folks like me or enterprise admin, would be force going back to BlackBerry, Windows Mobile, iphone or whatever that can be managed remotely.
Well iPhone certainly is not going to be any better in enterprise management than Android. But you are correct that if Google doesn't give up it's insistence on cloud based data the corporate managers will go back to Blackberry. (WinP7) does not seem very business friendly either but I do predict MS will one day release a pro edition that will please those needs.
Android has great potential in this area thanks to linux base but I just spent two days trying to get my partner's contacts sorted out between all the cloud based contacr contributors.
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Well iPhone certainly is not going to be any better in enterprise management than Android. But you are correct that if Google doesn't give up it's insistence on cloud based data the corporate managers will go back to Blackberry. (WinP7) does not seem very business friendly either but I do predict MS will one day release a pro edition that will please those needs.
Android has great potential in this area thanks to linux base but I just spent two days trying to get my partner's contacts sorted out between all the cloud based contacr contributors.
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Isn't cloud computing supposed to be easier? lol
I'm on Android 2.2 on my HTC Wildfire.
Its full of annoying little bugs and lags. Feels like Beta software still.
Can't imagine how horrendous 1.5 and 1.6 was if 2 years down the line the OS is still full of annoying glitches.
Been a Google fan all my life but Apple is starting to look appealing...
Google is not responsible for updating all of the Android phones out there.
Google updates a few phones themselves, the Nexus series, the g1, the g2, and the Mytouch 3g. The actual updates to phones say the Evo, the Galaxy S, the Droid/Milestone, that's up to HTC, Samsung, and Motorola. Apple makes the device, and the operating system, and is not open source like Android. They have 2 series of phones they support still, and 2 they don't. This article is full of crap.
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C'mon Google...I know you do can do better than Apple or Microsoft. Need to improve this update thing now that Android is gaining momentum to mainstream market. Things like this will lose users to go back to other OS especially where security and latest update is needed.
source: http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/17/ios-android-breakdown/
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You know maybe.. just maybe if you read this article on a website like BGR or Engadget, you might have caught the fact that only .4% are on Gingerbread is due to the fact that only the Nexus S ships with Gingerbread. So wow, I wonder why Apple's percentage is so huge and Android's is so small!!11!!!1!
Maybe we (Android users) happy with not latest OS version?
I flashed Froyo 2.2 half year ago and don't seek for newer version.
This statistic only says how developer can push newest OS.
If you all remember from the Windows Phone Summit, it was mentioned that all devices launced will have (receive updates) for a period of 18 months.
What does this mean brothers? Does it mean every WP device released will be neglected and won't be able to upgrade to another major OS update just like today's 1st and 2nd gen devices after 18 months.
What if we get quad core, NFC and all these hardcore hardware goodies? Will a phone with all the wonderful specs still be neglected? I really don't see how if the Kernels and cores are not changed.
Typical example: Will the HTC One X and Samsung Galaxy III loose support for Android ONE DAY??? Even if the Android kernel and the cores still remain the same???
I'm really lost and need your opinions...any explanations?
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If you all remember from the Windows Phone Summit, it was mentioned that all devices launced will have (receive updates) for a period of 18 months.
What does this mean brothers? Does it mean every WP device released will be neglected and won't be able to upgrade to another major OS update just like today's 1st and 2nd gen devices after 18 months.
What if we get quad core, NFC and all these hardcore hardware goodies? Will a phone with all the wonderful specs still be neglected? I really don't see how if the Kernels and cores are not changed.
Typical example: Will the HTC One X and Samsung Galaxy III loose support for Android ONE DAY??? Even if the Android kernel and the cores still remain the same???
I'm really lost and need your opinions...any explanations?
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I hope it does lose support after 18 months as that leaves the room for new innovation every 18 months which is fantastic if you as an end user want value for money! 18 months in gadget years is a long time. I would rather prefer new screen res, new processors, new add-ons to the hardware that can be exploited using an updated OS. However, yes if the OS can do all these by not changing kernel etc, we might potentially still be able to update to newer OS, but would you not want those hardware features that evolve in 18 months? I would!
18 Months is too short...
Think of how the latest gen phones got a front facing camera, yet we won't see Skype integration unless we upgrade to WP8...
What features will the 2nd gen of WP8 phones get that won't be used until WP9?
18 months is wayyyy too short... 36 would be a more fair number!
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18 Months is too short...
Think of how the latest gen phones got a front facing camera, yet we won't see Skype integration unless we upgrade to WP8...
What features will the 2nd gen of WP8 phones get that won't be used until WP9?
18 months is wayyyy too short... 36 would be a more fair number!
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For example, they could exploit the possibility of x86 instead of ARM?
or hexa-cores?
or kinect sensors?
Now imagine if we could run the new kernel and MSFT would give WP8 to us right now, but we had same hardware, we wouldn't be seeing those NFC goodies on our current phones or those games that exploit multicores!
Zhariak said:
18 Months is too short...
Think of how the latest gen phones got a front facing camera, yet we won't see Skype integration unless we upgrade to WP8...
What features will the 2nd gen of WP8 phones get that won't be used until WP9?
18 months is wayyyy too short... 36 would be a more fair number!
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That would be idiotic. 3 years?
And considering that Android manufacturers abandon you before you've even bought it, 18 months is perfectly fine.
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18 months is fine its the length of your contracts eligibility so essentially your phone will be supported until the next wave comes out.
18 months is perfect, means you can enjoy your latest update for a half year before your contract expires and you can renew it icm with a new phone.
Come to think of this, then someone like me need not buy a flagship phone. When WP8 comes out, they'll be low end, mid range and high end phones, since I don't play a lot of games on my phone and just use my social, forum and productivity apps, I really don't need to buy a WP GS3 or One X like WP which will no be supported in 18 months time. Both high end and low end WP 8 devices will not be supported in 18 months time then I better buy a cheap WP8 device when it comes out. Or am I wrong?
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And also are they giving us 18 months support based on the expirations of contracts? If so then they are not being fair to some of us who buy phones off contract. You really need to use your phone like forever if you buy one coz they are damn expensive.
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And also are they giving us 18 months support based on the expirations of contracts? If so then they are not being fair to some of us who buy phones off contract. You really need to use your phone like forever if you buy one coz they are damn expensive.
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Why is this such a complicated concept?
It's 18 months from when the phone is released.
If you buy a year old phone, then that would be your problem.
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Personally, I think it should be at least 24 months, in the US we all end up with 2 year contracts. Now if you buy the phone 3-4 months after it's release, who's fault is that ? Yours not Microsoft.
Now here's another good question that should effect US users. Does this 18 months start when the phone is released by the Carriers or the OEM ? Phones released in the US tend to get an overseas release before the US, sometimes as much as 6 months (GSM or CDMA).
How about the case of the Verizon Trophy or the Sprint Arrive, for example. The GSM Trophy was released about 8-9 months BEFORE the CDMA releases of the Arrive or the (few weeks later) Trophy. Yea, people say they are different phones but, MS could say, no a Trophy is a Trophy. Are you saying when I buy a CDMA phone (better coverage in the US now) my upgrades from Microsoft could only be 6-7 months on a just released phone, that I just signed a new 2 year contract on (sorry Lumia 900 owners) ?????????????????
All I know, when the WP8 devices start shipping, I will watch for the most popular one on here, and buy that one, because the XDA hackers will give me WP9, even if Microsoft does not
All its saying is Microsoft has to support them for AT LEAST 18 months. It doesn't mean they're necessarily going to abandon every 18 month old phone. All the contract says is that they are obliged to support us for 18 months. Who knows? We might even get windows phone 9 on or wp8 devices if they are compatible!
Knowing how Microsoft updates Windows and the XBOX, I would bet that you would get EVERY update including the major release, Unless your over 18 months after release (after 18months you will get all minor releases but, no more major updates).
As in the xbox, if your system requres a update, you can not access xbox live till you update. I'm sure MS would want everything standardized and on the same level if possable.
The question is what happens after the 18 moths are up? Will they stop releasing apps for it? Will they shut the market place down for Windows Phone 7.8 users like they did with Windows Mobile forcing everyone to go to Windows Phone 8?
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The question is what happens after the 18 moths are up? Will they stop releasing apps for it? Will they shut the market place down for Windows Phone 7.8 users like they did with Windows Mobile forcing everyone to go to Windows Phone 8?
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Nothing happens after 18 months.
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The question is what happens after the 18 moths are up? Will they stop releasing apps for it? Will they shut the market place down for Windows Phone 7.8 users like they did with Windows Mobile forcing everyone to go to Windows Phone 8?
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Nothing really...
They stop supporting your device(as for updates). I know that just because WP9 hits, your apps are not going to stop working or anything like that. It just means just like now, your going to get a minor update for Wp 7.5, and they will move on to WP8, all current apps will work fine and most of WP8 apps would work too (some games and big production apps could be an acception.)
As someone posted on another thread, a programmer today creating an app for WP8 would want to make it backwards compatable to 7.5/8 to reach the most people possable and reach higher sales amounts. If you just make a WP8 only app, you limit the people who can access your app. Just makes business cense...
Some apps will need the WP8 features and those you will not be able to run (high impact games will be the acception for the most part).
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As someone posted on another thread, a programmer today creating an app for WP8 would want to make it backwards compatable to 7.5/8 to reach the most people possable and reach higher sales amounts. If you just make a WP8 only app, you limit the people who can access your app. Just makes business cense...
Some apps will need the WP8 features and those you will not be able to run (high impact games will be the acception for the most part).
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But if it is a port from Android, iOS or even a Windows 8 Metro App, it is way easier to port to WP8 than to WP7, and if WP8 sales are good, it might not be profitable to support the small marketshare that WP7 holds.
However, as of today your statement is of course true because there is not even a WP8 SDK.
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But if it is a port from Android, iOS or even a Windows 8 Metro App, it is way easier to port to WP8 than to WP7, and if WP8 sales are good, it might not be profitable to support the small marketshare that WP7 holds.
However, as of today your statement is of course true because there is not even a WP8 SDK.
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Any new OS version WON'T have a bigger marketshare than that times ongoing OS.
e.g.
WP7.5 will have more than WP7.8 at its launch
WP7.8 will have more than WP8 at its launch
WP8 will have more than WP9 at its launch
etc.
So... even if WP8 sales are good since day 1, it will take at least 6-8 months to overtake that time's WP7.x userbase.
In the least effect, a W8 developer who ONLY ports to WP8 is losing potential 12 million customers - simple maths.
It seems that ever since January of 2007, when Apple revealed the rumored iPhone that they have been on top of the mobile game. Even before the phone was even for sale, it literally became the most hyped device in the world. Well its been over 5 years and Apple continues to control the mobile tech game.
But this can't last forever can it? Let's think about the mass popularity of Blackberrys and Sidekicks. Blackberry is a dying brand and sidekick's aren't even relavent in 2012.
Check out this article that explains a few new technologies in development as well as some proposed concepts that can make Apple the old thing.
"The iPhone was a life-changing device for many. Nobody can deny Apple’s ingenuity. But just like Apple wiped out the competition in 2007, any manufacturer could harness an advanced technology that could make the iPhone a thing of the past."
[Article] : http://brobuffet.com/2012/07/13/the-next-tech-takeover/
Tell me your opinion
Do you believe the Apple iPhone will continue to be the most popular device? Or will something eventually come along in 5-10 years and just take over the market?
I think this is a big question because many of us speak of how Apple will eventually have the iPhone 10 but we never consider the competition.
I personally feel that apple has its days numbered with the following that certain android based phones are gathering. HTC and Samsung alike are well on their ways to EVENTUALLY topple apple.
I give it three years, apple wont be on top, but will still be relevant. Unless apple changes the game a bit, 10 years and we may be saying "apple who?" There's only so many times you can sell a different variation of a general idea.
Just my opinion
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People choose iPhone due to awesome user experience having no performance glitch. Project Butter brings that to Jelly Bean. So, I think.. Android is going to take crown this time.
What I like most: Android users have big choice of hardware specs. If you purchase any digital content from Play Store (or, Amazon App Store), you can use them on large no. of devices which is not true with iTunes case!
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People choose iPhone due to awesome user experience having no performance glitch. Project Butter brings that to Jelly Bean. So, I think.. Android is going to take crown this time.
What I like most: Android users have big choice of hardware specs. If you purchase any digital content from Play Store (or, Amazon App Store), you can use them on large no. of devices which is not true with iTunes case!
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Not to mention the amount of customization you have with an android device. If you're rooted, customization is endless.
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I have but one statement to add to this:
If HTC and Samsung wasn't doing so well in the smartphone market, why does Apple keep trying to sue them for anything they can?
Hell, even the Gooapple v5, although a Chinese knockoff, is still a better phone to me just because it runs Android and not iOS.
Say or think what you may, but android should be able to corner the market inside of 12-18 months based on the amount of users alone. No more desktops, no more laptops, and net books with touchscreens that run Android 3.2 for those that want a keyboard...
The future is in your hands, brandish it like a weapon and show it off to every iPhone user you know.
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fyi , Android owns over 50% of the world market for the last 2 years at least. Its now around 61% and only 29% for Apple.
I just came from an iPhone 4 to an HTC one x as my first Android device. Just about everyone I actually know that's closely related to me has an iPhone as well.
One thing I've noticed about them is that they don't really seem to care what the latest features of Android are compared to the iPhone. Even when I gloat about what my phone can do compared to their's they just don't seem quite as convinced or impressed by it.
Their only argument for staying with the iPhone is the app store, which I must agree is quite impressive. The also seem to have a misconception that Android is hard to navigate or use compared to iPhone. to some degree it is true, but I wouldn't say it's hard, its just not as user friendly as ios.
Apple will probably retain a lead until they mess up big time with their phone. I feel that moment is coming soon. The os look and feel is extremely outdated in my opinion. They need a new layout for their home screen and something different to keep it fresh.
Also I would like to mention from a personal experience that iPhone is great out the box whereas Android isn't good until you root and throw some great roms on it.
I'm tired of typing on my phone now.
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No, they won't. Samsung outsold Apple in Q1 this year. It will happen again. Instead of innovating Apple seems content to litigate and steal, meaning that they aren't bringing anything fresh to the table. People will eventually get tired of shelling out money for new iPhones with almost no appreciable differences. What will the next iPhone offer? A slightly larger screen, UI upgrades stolen wholesale from Android, maps purchased from elsewhere, and most likely 4G. Nothing cutting edge and nothing that isn't already offered in a plethora of forms in other devices.
Granted, it will take some people time to break away, especially those heavily invested in iOS apps, but it will happen. If all Google offered from its Nexus line were the same phone year after year with only minor changes how many Android users would see any need to continually upgrade? If Android users had no choice but to buy a new device every two years so that it could actually function on the newest OS how many of us would continue to support them? Androids weak point has been manufacturers and carriers not getting the new Android versions out to devices, but as devs have made clear the hardware itself is plenty capable of utilizing whatever Google brings us. That's something that iOS can't claim. Heck, even a number of newer iDevices had major issues with iOS 5. Dinosaurs will die and Apple is sounding its own dirge by refusing to stay competitive and treating its customers like idiots.
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Also I would like to mention from a personal experience that iPhone is great out the box whereas Android isn't good until you root and throw some great roms on it.
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I wouldn't quite say so.
Android can run widgets, live wallpaper, custom lockscreens, different launchers, change default apps like MMS/SMS, browser, dialer, camera, etc., out of the box no rooting required.
iOS needs to be jailbroken for those features. And they still don't have widgets, except for those "widgets" in the notification pulldown (which was a complete copy of Android 1.5).
The iPhone 5 will supposedly have a 4 inch screen. The original galaxy S phones from 2010 had 4 inch screens, and the OG Droid from 2009 had a 3.7 inch screen which is bigger than the current iPhone (4S).
Apple will fall soon. A couple of years give or take
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No, they won't. Samsung outsold Apple in Q1 this year. It will happen again. Instead of innovating Apple seems content to litigate and steal, meaning that they aren't bringing anything fresh to the table. People will eventually get tired of shelling out money for new iPhones with almost no appreciable differences. What will the next iPhone offer? A slightly larger screen, UI upgrades stolen wholesale from Android, maps purchased from elsewhere, and most likely 4G. Nothing cutting edge and nothing that isn't already offered in a plethora of forms in other devices.
Granted, it will take some people time to break away, especially those heavily invested in iOS apps, but it will happen. If all Google offered from its Nexus line were the same phone year after year with only minor changes how many Android users would see any need to continually upgrade? If Android users had no choice but to buy a new device every two years so that it could actually function on the newest OS how many of us would continue to support them? Androids weak point has been manufacturers and carriers not getting the new Android versions out to devices, but as devs have made clear the hardware itself is plenty capable of utilizing whatever Google brings us. That's something that iOS can't claim. Heck, even a number of newer iDevices had major issues with iOS 5. Dinosaurs will die and Apple is sounding its own dirge by refusing to stay competitive and treating its customers like idiots.
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Exactly. Androids strength is also a weakness. Variety and choice comes with a price. Apple's sole control over their device and OS allows them to easily roll out updates, whereas with Android, Google, in a way, is at the mercy of manufacturers and carries. Or perhaps it's the other way around?
So what if ICS and JB take while to get official support. Open source development takes care of that problem. In fact, I think it's safe to say that user/ community made ROMs are probably better than official releases.
my girlfriends sister's boyfriend has an Iphone, and he said he wants to get the new one. Now my girlfriends sister wants to get an Iphone also. Listen to the reasons behind their wants.
boyfriend - I want the new Iphone because I can easily sync my music from itunes
girlfriends sister - I want the new Iphone just because (we all know its because her boyfriend has one LOL)
is this really what apple has going for them? easy sync of music, same OS on every device, little bit bigger screen and a new maps app because they're mad at google for "stealing" from them? apple is a garbage company that over-prices everything and gives their customers a piece of **** in a box.
oh get this LOL also my girlfriends sister has had an IMac laptop or whatever you call it for a couple of years now, 2 times she had to change the hard drive. that is hella sad considering the hard drive is one and only piece of permanent storage pieces in a computer.
enviii said:
Their only argument for staying with the iPhone is the app store, which I must agree is quite impressive. The also seem to have a misconception that Android is hard to navigate or use compared to iPhone. to some degree it is true, but I wouldn't say it's hard, its just not as user friendly as ios.
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I totally agree. If someone can't figure out how to connect to wifi with an android phone, they're not going to magically figure it out if you hand them an iPhone. The process is the exact same no matter which platform you are on. I guess most people haven't tried ICS, because it is just as easy to use as any other OS.
In fact, in a few ways, Android is more user friendly. For example, making a ringtone from an mp3 is fairly easy on Android. Doing the same in iOS or WP7 is a nightmare. Managing music is easier if you know how to drag and drop into folders. Once they start putting NFC chips in bluetooth devices, pairing will be super easy for Android too.
iPhone screen size = 3.5" = $600
Android equivalents in terms of screen size:
Galaxy Y = 3.0" = <$30
LG Optimus Me = 2.8" = <$10
Lenovo A60 = 3.5" = <$30
See. ALL of the iPhones android equivalents are LOW END phones! They are all GB/FroYo! In terms of screen size, Apple needs to step up and release a 4.3" iPhone ASAP.
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iPhone screen size = 3.5" = $600
Android equivalents in terms of screen size:
Galaxy Y = 3.0" = <$30
LG Optimus Me = 2.8" = <$10
Lenovo A60 = 3.5" = <$30
See. ALL of the iPhones android equivalents are LOW END phones! They are all GB/FroYo! In terms of screen size, Apple needs to step up and release a 4.3" iPhone ASAP.
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Samsung makes the panels for the iPhone... I would love to see apple go to another vendor, increase screen size and start selling those phones, just so Samsung can sue them for patent infringement due to screen size and technology... that would be the lol of the year!
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what if iPhone gets Android, can someone port it.....lolz..
People already have booted Android on iPhones. Android is open for anyone who wishes to develop and use it.
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People already have booted Android on iPhones. Android is open for anyone who wishes to develop and use it.
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This is true, and proof can be found in the case of all the Gooapple units sold. Its essentially the same as an iPhone with the exception of the processor AFAIK...
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I also see the iPhone lagging behind its competition in the future. What game changers did Apple introduce to the iPhone
in the last years? FaceTime? lol
They can't come up with something special every time they release a new one. They are also very limited with the way they can
change the whole thing. It's no coincidence that they stuck with the same screen size for so long. If you make it bigger it's not
really "the iPhone" anymore. I think they are very careful with making such drastic changes which, as I said, limits their innovation.
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People already have booted Android on iPhones. Android is open for anyone who wishes to develop and use it.
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Yeah Android is open for anyone, but this doesn't grants officially update's for all smartphone!
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what if iPhone gets Android, can someone port it.....lolz..
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Hi all,
I've been an Android user for about 4 years, and in that period I've had 4 phones (2 Moto, 1 Samsung and 1 Sony).
I understand the concept of programmed obsolescence, but this is ridiculous. My current phone, the Sony Xperia S, was released in Feb' 2012. Android 4.2 was released only 10 months later, but the Xperia S didn't get it. It should have been supported for 18 months, but Android 4.3 came out 15 months after it was released and it didn't get it either. Between the time I got the phone and a version of Android was out that it didn't get there were no more than a few weeks.
It was the exact same story with my Moto Milestones (1&2) and my Galaxy.
So even though I'm a big Android advocate, I'm really sick of this negligence. It's not that I always want the latest OS version for OCD reasons - I'm not an update freak or anything - but in each of those cases there were clear bugs or features that were simply left behind. I've had an iPad for a couple of years now and it's still getting updates and running anything from the Store - whereas my laggy Galaxy Tab 10.1 is left lying around most of the time, with a whole bunch of newer app versions that are "not compatible with your device". I don't want to switch to Apple for my phone, but my patience with these OS updates is running thin. I've tried custom ROMs with every one of my phones, but you really end up getting tired of the inevitable bugs and constant updating and flashing.
I was decided to get a Nexus 5, but then I read that the Nexus S did not get Android 4.2, which came out just 20 months after it was released. That's too little, considering most people buy their phones at least a few months after its release. That means that the average Nexus S buyer was only running the latest Android version for about a year - and it's a Nexus phone we're talking about here.
I know Google Play Edition phone makers commit themselves to updating their OSs for 18 months after they've been released. But I guess different manufacturers have different track records. I've looked around a little bit but I didn't find a thread that compiles that sort of information. I think this is a big deal and the Android user community should value OEMs that are careful about future-proofing their devices (even if "future" in this case means just a couple of years). But that's hard to keep track of, with so many models and manufacturers out there.
So I thought I'd ask everyone here how long they've owned their devices until it stopped receiving Android updates. Looking up release dates and last Android version isn't that useful because release dates & actual availability are 2 different things.
If I get enough data out of this I'll build a nice looking set of bar and pie charts with some sexy-ass bell curves to let people read this information and favor OEMs that are more careful about this.
Legit question here... don't wanna turn this into a iOS vs. Android deal.
I switched to Android almost two years ago, primarily for it's extensibility and flexibility. 1 year later I started tinkering with custom ROM's, kernels, etc. and I honestly don't see myself returning to an iPhone again.
It now seems Apple will follow suit with a more extensible/flexible (although restrictive) approach in iOS 8 - think "widgets", 3rd party keyboards, touchID API, etc.
I wonder if such shift moving forward could somehow stop a significant enough number of users from exploring the Android world in the first place, effectively slowing down the consistent growth-rate Android has enjoyed in the past couple of years.
Thoughts?
Juangueo said:
It now seems Apple will follow suit with a more extensible/flexible (although restrictive) approach in iOS 8 - think "widgets", 3rd party keyboards, touchID API, etc.
I wonder if such shift moving forward could somehow stop a significant enough number of users from exploring the Android world in the first place, effectively slowing down the consistent growth-rate Android has enjoyed in the past couple of years.
Thoughts?
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Yeah, this sounds kind of legit, but there are two things in which Apple won't ever beat Android: 1. Being open 2. Freedom of choice
iOS won't ever be open source and nobody will ever be able to use APIs that are not approved and given by Apple.
And about freedom of choice, try tell me which are my choices if I want an iOS phone: basically the only thing you can choose is color. Now try to choose an Android phone. One can't just choose easily. And also let's not forget the prices: you can find Android phones starting from less than 100$ while iPhone cost 6-7 times more.