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I finally got it working! I had to use the usb port so I'll need to get a touchstone for work, home and car but it is pretty sweet. It is pretty straight forward, but the hardest part was cutting the usb in half and soldering on it. I used http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/18/samsung-galaxy-s-wireless-inductive-charging-mod/ as a reference. The wiring for the (+) is in the pics, but for the (-) I just slipped the black wire through one of the small holes in the bottom of the back cover and sandwiched it between the sim card and the metal sim holder to gain a ground.
I know it's not elegant, but I just wanted to share. As far as I know no one else has done this with a sensation.
Wow, that's pretty cool man.
Nice work mate, I love seeing people experiment and come up with new things
Nice!
I think there was another person that tried but didn't get it working because he was using his stock cover and also said he couldn't get past some of the wiring. I forget but I think it had to do with the sd card being in the way or something.
But good job in getting it done!
Can something like this be done to keep from cutting the usb?
http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/28/high-waf-inductive-charging-mod/
kpjimmy said:
Nice!
I think there was another person that tried but didn't get it working because he was using his stock cover and also said he couldn't get past some of the wiring. I forget but I think it had to do with the sd card being in the way or something.
But good job in getting it done!
Can something like this be done to keep from cutting the usb?
http://www.qianqin.de/2011/09/28/high-waf-inductive-charging-mod/
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Unless you have a industrial grade precision solder station I doubt it. The internals are too small and crowded unlike the HTC EVO or Incredible. Believe me I tried; my phone has been completely broken down around 4 times already.
Share the process
Show us how you did this ! post some in depth pictures or do a small tutorial or something... I gotta know lol
Anyone else got this working? I am looking at getting a micro usb male connector and a palm touchstone kit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1P-5-Pin-Mi...70?pt=Camera_Cables_Cords&hash=item27bf534f9e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Palm-Tou...303436?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43aa7faf0c
I was thinking of the same thing and I have the otterbox I was thinking of a way to attach the micro USB to the cover over the port.
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dobah said:
Anyone else got this working? I am looking at getting a micro usb male connector and a palm touchstone kit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1P-5-Pin-Mi...70?pt=Camera_Cables_Cords&hash=item27bf534f9e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Palm-Tou...303436?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43aa7faf0c
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That definitely would be easier than cutting into one, but the actual metal "plug" portion of the usb is too long. My pics are really blurry but I had to remove the pins, separate the inner plastic and outer metal, cut both in half and surgically bend the + pin into a square "J" shape, glue it in place, reinstall the metal casing and solder the pin to the wire without melting the plastic bit that holds the pin. It was a B!TCH!
Even though I cut the connector in half (actually closer to 2/5) it still sticks out just a bit unfortunately. There is a positive resistor inside the phone that could be used, but things are so tight that I doubt anyone short of a surgeon could solder to it.
nice job mate
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Instead of soldering and dealing with melted plastic, is it possible to use conductive glue? I have never used something like this especially if I am trying to send some decent power though this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/No-Solderin...630?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0f745c0e
i don't believe in god's i know believe in you!
wondering that how you gonna transfer your data to via usb?
I don't plan to transfer anything through usb. Everything will be transferred via wifi + astro.
Great job! Are you thinking of selling these? I'd buy one!
afroken3130 said:
Unless you have a industrial grade precision solder station I doubt it. The internals are too small and crowded unlike the HTC EVO or Incredible. Believe me I tried; my phone has been completely broken down around 4 times already.
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I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my Sensation. I wanted to make sure that the Touchstone charger would support the weight of my phone in it's case, so I took the short cut of using parts from a microUSB charger to route from the induction coil terminals to the charge port. I'm halfway through routing all the necessary connections to go through the board instead of the charge port. In the attached picture, I've highlighted 2 test points that will let you route your +5v line into the board. I'll use the metal housing of the sim card reader to attach the ground.
hxxp://i.imgur.com/koag4.png
Since the back of the phone is metal and its always going to be in a case I'm going to have to use pogo plugs or some other form of metal contacts to go through the back housing to allow me to pull off the case/back whenever I need. I'll have my charge port free to use over USB as well
orias said:
I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my Sensation. I wanted to make sure that the Touchstone charger would support the weight of my phone in it's case, so I took the short cut of using parts from a microUSB charger to route from the induction coil terminals to the charge port. I'm halfway through routing all the necessary connections to go through the board instead of the charge port. In the attached picture, I've highlighted 2 test points that will let you route your +5v line into the board. I'll use the metal housing of the sim card reader to attach the ground.
hxxp://i.imgur.com/koag4.png
Since the back of the phone is metal and its always going to be in a case I'm going to have to use pogo plugs or some other form of metal contacts to go through the back housing to allow me to pull off the case/back whenever I need. I'll have my charge port free to use over USB as well
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can you make a full tutorial ?
ti will help a lot of users
Once I finish it,I will.
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Im not sure what does this mod do ? Sorry for my noobness lol
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The inductive charging mod lets you charge your device by simply putting it on a base.
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Hi All,
I have this Sony smartwatch but lost my cable. I am looking for the pinlayout of the cable. Is there someone who can help me on the pin layout.
The signals for the pins om the watch like Vcc, Gnd etc
or the pin mapping from the usb connector to the watch connector.
I hope someone can help me on this.
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Okay, I found the answer in some other thread. Will try this out tomorow.
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USB male:
Pin
1 - VCC,
2 - D+,
3 - D-,
4 - GND
On Sony plug:
According to this: Holding the cable as in the picture, with the contacts facing you and the cable leading downwards,
Pin 4 is the left pin - GND
Pin 3 - D-
Pin 2 - D+
Pin 1 is the right pin - V+
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The image for the connector here.
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hi, i have also lost my smartwatch cable and have tried ordering a new one of sonymobile.com and when i placed the order i received no confirmation and was instantly redirected to the home...i had almost given up when i luckily stumbled across this thread,however i am a complete noob and would very much like to know what i will need and how to get my smartwatch working again! many thanks!
Hi, I made the cable and was able to charge my smartwatch. I will make a picture of my home made cable and post it here.
All you need is an old usb cable som small plastic, two pins and a soldering iron. It comes to connecting the right wires to the right pins.
Request
mvturnho said:
Hi, I made the cable and was able to charge my smartwatch. I will make a picture of my home made cable and post it here.
All you need is an old usb cable som small plastic, two pins and a soldering iron. It comes to connecting the right wires to the right pins.
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Please can u share how u did??
In the image my DIY cable.
I used a small pièce of plastic with pins melted though and hot glue to fix of all.
The cable is an old Mouse cable.
Not sure if anyone is looking for the official Sony cable but last time I checked it was available on the Verizon website. I think it was under $20...
DIP IC Socket and a piece of PCB
I lost my original...found a pin layout online from a photo of the board off a disassembled smartwatch. Looks like you guys already have the pinout covered though. What I did to make my cable was I used staples. I straightened out 4 ordinary office staples, bent one end up at a 90° angle...just a few millimeters. Then I used some JB stick (JB weld in putty form...you can buy it at your local hardware store, auto parts store, or Walmart). It hardens in minutes, is hard as steel, and most importantly is non-conductive. I painstakingly arranged the four staples on a bit of the jb putty, put another small layer of the putty over the top (so just the tips if the staples were exposed as well as a few millimeters of the other ends), and quickly wedged the whole thing into my Smartwatch. I pressed the spring clip down using it as a mold, then quickly and carefully pulled it out so it did not adhere to the watch. 5 minutes later the connector was hard as a rock. I then soldered my bare end of my USB cable to the staple ends, put some heat shrink, and dropped a little ball of solder on each of the 4 protruding bent staple tips at the other end of the connector. The 4 balls of solder now make nice shiny contact points to line up with the 4 terminals on the watch. Now I have a rock solid, professional looking diy charging cable. Been working for 4 months now no issues. Took me less than an hour for the whole project once I thought up the design.
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I lost my original...found a pin layout online from a photo of the board off a disassembled smartwatch. Looks like you guys already have the pinout covered though. What I did to make my cable was I used staples. I straightened out 4 ordinary office staples, bent one end up at a 90° angle...just a few millimeters. Then I used some JB stick (JB weld in putty form...you can buy it at your local hardware store, auto parts store, or Walmart). It hardens in minutes, is hard as steel, and most importantly is non-conductive. I painstakingly arranged the four staples on a bit of the jb putty, put another small layer of the putty over the top (so just the tips if the staples were exposed as well as a few millimeters of the other ends), and quickly wedged the whole thing into my Smartwatch. I pressed the spring clip down using it as a mold, then quickly and carefully pulled it out so it did not adhere to the watch. 5 minutes later the connector was hard as a rock. I then soldered my bare end of my USB cable to the staple ends, put some heat shrink, and dropped a little ball of solder on each of the 4 protruding bent staple tips at the other end of the connector. The 4 balls of solder now make nice shiny contact points to line up with the 4 terminals on the watch. Now I have a rock solid, professional looking diy charging cable. Been working for 4 months now no issues. Took me less than an hour for the whole project once I thought up the design.
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Can you put some picture?
Can anyone please give me the distance between the pins as I have a smartwatch coming with missing usb cable and I would like to make a cable ready for when it arrives?
Thanks
Got my watch and my first attempt is a no go, can anyone help with the following:
Do the pins on the watch need to be pushed down?
Is it only pins 1 + 4 that need connecting?
When the watch is completley dead does it take a while while on charge to see anything happening, I connect my cable and dont see any sign its charging??
Also taking apart a USB extension cable seems to be the perfect solution as the pins are the right way round to connect to the watch once you take apart the metal housing.
Please help
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I have my cable stop working and I make a simple one from a flat USB laying around. I try to buy one from Sony but it is out of order and was $22 with shipping. I am glad I found this cable and now I have-it for free only 15- 20 min of work.
Here are some pictures.
Wouldn't you need all 4 pins for firmware updating?
Kolma said:
Wouldn't you need all 4 pins for firmware updating?
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Yes you need 4 pins if you want to upgrade the firmware but I think there will not be more updates for this smartwatch
because Sony will release the new SmartWatch 2 soon.
Have problem with my mn2 charging charging, it would just not charge, not sure if the problem is in cable or watch it self, did the cleaning of charging ports as mentioned in many places over the net but no success, any help will be welcomed.
supersonic64126 said:
I lost my original...found a pin layout online from a photo of the board off a disassembled smartwatch. Looks like you guys already have the pinout covered though. What I did to make my cable was I used staples. I straightened out 4 ordinary office staples, bent one end up at a 90° angle...just a few millimeters. Then I used some JB stick (JB weld in putty form...you can buy it at your local hardware store, auto parts store, or Walmart). It hardens in minutes, is hard as steel, and most importantly is non-conductive. I painstakingly arranged the four staples on a bit of the jb putty, put another small layer of the putty over the top (so just the tips if the staples were exposed as well as a few millimeters of the other ends), and quickly wedged the whole thing into my Smartwatch. I pressed the spring clip down using it as a mold, then quickly and carefully pulled it out so it did not adhere to the watch. 5 minutes later the connector was hard as a rock. I then soldered my bare end of my USB cable to the staple ends, put some heat shrink, and dropped a little ball of solder on each of the 4 protruding bent staple tips at the other end of the connector. The 4 balls of solder now make nice shiny contact points to line up with the 4 terminals on the watch. Now I have a rock solid, professional looking diy charging cable. Been working for 4 months now no issues. Took me less than an hour for the whole project once I thought up the design.
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SIr good day!, I've lost my cable charge for my sony smartwatch, i want to know how you made an improvised one. do you have any pictures on how you make it in 4-staple wires?
Thanks!
-tony
about charger u made
aseeme555076 said:
DIP IC Socket and a piece of PCB
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can u please tell or explain me how to make a charger plz plz beg ur leg
aseeme555076 said:
Can you put some picture?
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lol, sooo apparently this guy doesn't either know how to use his keyboard... or he thinks he's to good to post a picture of his little "so called charger he created", or he's just plain ol bull****tin everyone about this whole idea he mentioned for someone to be THAT detailed about something... i think he was just thinkin about it in his head and didnt really MAKE the charger.... thats why my friends, you se NO picture...... a year later.
The dock is obviously great if you don't mind paying for it or get it free. However it's a bit clunky to carry around with you (if using a portable external battery) or in a car.
It's not a great option having to remove the waterproof flap all the time to charge as well.
So I got to thinking, could one modify an old mini / micro usb cable (I've tons of old micro ones laying around), so that the +/- cables go straight to the metal contacts on the Xz. I assume it is just a case of +/- on the docking connector? Would it matter if they were connected the wrong way...?
It'll be a bit of an in-elegant solution but to start with I was thinking of some bluetack and some sort of spacing connector bar to quickly press onto / pull off the phone.
I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
Good luck
For in-car use, I personally would put the sony charger there for the moment.
Brodit the in car holder maker will also make a version of holder which will use the contacts, but not sure when that will be out.
I'm wondering now if it might not be easier just to wait for a cheap chinese dock to come out on ebay. The dock's also got an advantage it'll hold your phone nicely if you want to use it with an external keyboard, or watch a film for example.
Just not keen on spending £25 on one.
I think it would be pretty easy to make your own, for the electrics would it just be a case of cutting the micro usb connector off then attaching red + black wires?
MobiusPizza said:
I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
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Could someone with a dock check and post it?
Would be great.
This would be so cool. If it was like the Magsafe connectors on Macbooks it would be ideal. Probably not for me though. Hope you can do it.
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
MasK said:
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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copper foil would be easiest way to make the contacts, I've used it a few times in the past with my DIY wireless chargers
MasK said:
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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I think that the biggest challange will be finding someone who will tell us which pin is + .....
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has anyone got a dock yet?
The 3rd party stockists haven't shipped them yet have they? The bundle/deal is a post out one..
made a sort of dock, using 2 pins from a computer molex connector + foil, held the correct distance apart with glue from a hot glue gun, but need to wait until someone can find out the polarity before trying it!
I have exactly the same DIY idea but I want to kill two birds in one stone – wireless charging and MagSafe type of mobile charging interface.
I target for Xperia Z for its IPX protection and 4G. Being an IPX certified device, the port covers are important that I don’t know why Sony doesn’t have wireless charging just like its competitor Panasonic (model P-02E has both wireless charging and replaceable battery) having. The charging dock can solve this shortcoming a bit but the dock is only good for placing at home or in the office. When charging with external battery pack on the road, the it is better to have some handy charging cable to charge through the 2-pin. Then MagSafe type of cable is a good candidate.
Googled a bit and found a flip case (Muvit Qi Wireless Charging Kit for Sony Xperia Z) with Qi charging ready and I wonder it is utilizing the 2-pin as well. If I do the DIY, I will use a thin plastic case with the following components:
1) attach a Qi/Touchstone charging coil at the inner back side of the case
2) on side edge of the case facing the 2-pin of the device, I will attach a new 2-pin port with 2 small iron plate on each end, the 2-pin will connect to the charging coil and acts as the connector for the 2-pin of the device and piggy-back to the dock for charging
3) MagSafe type of charging cable is made by a normal USB cable with one end chopped to make a 2-pin connector with 2 small permanent magnets on each end for attaching to the iron plate mounted on the case above
Great idea Kimmy, looking forward to your work! Let us know what parts you use and where you get them! Would be great !
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I was thinking of a simple clip onto the side over the pogo pins.
Has anyone got the polarity yet?
Those of you who maybe reading this and have the dock already please check the polarity.
And we have an answer!
The + is the upper pin, - is the lower
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38868648
Time to start playing
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I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car
jimsey said:
I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car
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This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger
antipesto93 said:
This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger
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yeah I wanted spring loaded pins and came across the old sony charger adapter when looking through my box of spares.
I opened up the jack and the pins just slide out with some careful pulling and slide back into another position, I then trimmed off the 2 prongs sony use to hold the charger into the phone, then it was just a case of fixing the jack in place with some hot glue.
the other idea i had was nabbing the battery contacts out of one of my daughters old toys, or making contacts from copper foil, but i'm happy with this result.
As i said I'll cover it in Black felt or plether tomorrow, and i'm sure it look much neater
What about instead of making a dock, just making a small, magnetized connector that attaches directly to the pins?
I'm still waiting for the phone to be released here so cant experiment but do you think this could be achievable?
I'm going to have a go at a small clip on using sugru/silicon rubber
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On a standard USB data/charger USB A - Micro USB 'B' cable that comes with a Nexus 7 (for example) the 'Latch Head' metal connector that sticks out from the molded plastic boot is 5mm long.
I checked the specification on line and they should be 5.4mm minimum
I found when charging with these Micro USB B cables they don't fit tightly/properly, especially with a Nexus 7 as the molded USB head touches the Nexus case. The same is true when using a case on a mobile phone.
But, I have one cable where the Latch Head is 7mm long and it fits everything so much better.
When inserted you can see a little bit of the metal connector of the Micro B in between the phone and molded shoulder of the cable.
Has anyone else noticed this?
And does anyone know where to buy these? I have tried a lot of Google searches and no-one seems to be aware of these cables.
I want to replace all of my USB data/charging cables with the ones with a 7mm Latch Head.
I will try and post a picture and dimensions of my 7mm cable as soon as possible.
If anyone has any info or ideas that would be great!
imgur.com/a/IqKeW
I broke this cable (i think its antenna cable) while snapping the cable's tip off the motherboard. Is there another part i can buy to fix this?
Looking for the same part. I think mind is okay but looking for spare parts. This cable is fragile.
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