Ok, i have an Alcatel v860. I bought it from vodafone, locked and i was at service, because i want to use it on other carrier, and i unlocked it.
My question is.. If i flash with roeddie (any version) my phone is locked again? I don't know what method was used for unlock.
etzutzu said:
Ok, i have an Alcatel v860. I bought it from vodafone, locked and i was at service, because i want to use it on other carrier, and i unlocked it.
My question is.. If i flash with roeddie (any version) my phone is locked again? I don't know what method was used for unlock.
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Yes ur phone will be locked again to Vodafone. U need to require the NAC code from them and this can be used each time u installed new firmware to unlock the hand set again.
Not locked
bassalh123 said:
Yes ur phone will be locked again to Vodafone. U need to require the NAC code from them and this can be used each time u installed new firmware to unlock the hand set again.
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Ok, i've assumed the risk to my phone get locked again and i flash recovery with full options, then with newest roeddie version and my phone works perfectly on any carrer !
I think, it depends on what method was used to unlock...
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Hi,
I bought a brand new Desire S today off someone as it was an unwanted upgrade. The phone was locked on Orange UK and the before I bought it off the person they purchased an unlock code and had someone from a shop unlock the phone. The phone is unlocked and works on O2 UK perfectly. My question is if I was to root my device and s-off (which i've only just heard/read about as this is my first HTC) and install custom ROMs via CWM would my unlock still work?
I apologise if this is noob question.
Thanks
collinsc2 said:
Hi,
I bought a brand new Desire S today off someone as it was an unwanted upgrade. The phone was locked on Orange UK and the before I bought it off the person they purchased an unlock code and had someone from a shop unlock the phone. The phone is unlocked and works on O2 UK perfectly. My question is if I was to root my device and s-off (which i've only just heard/read about as this is my first HTC) and install custom ROMs via CWM would my unlock still work?
I apologise if this is noob question.
Thanks
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SIM unlock and bootloader unlock are two completely different things. You will not lose SIM unlock by rooting / custom ROM installation. Go ahead and have fun.
enigmaamit said:
SIM unlock and bootloader unlock are two completely different things. You will not lose SIM unlock by rooting / custom ROM installation. Go ahead and have fun.
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Thanks foryour friendly reply. Great can't wait to get rid of all the unessesary apps that they clogged my device with.
I just received my Sony D6603 Xperia Z3 from my carrier which is Rogers. Is there a way to fully unlock the device as if it was purchased as an unlocked version? I've tried searching for answers, but only came up with how to unlock the bootloader and rooting instructions. Unless, if by doing those methods, will fully unlock my device including SIM lock. Any help and insight would be greatly appreciated.
Depending on Roger's terms you should be able to have them unlock it. Appears you have to wait 90 days though.
http://www.rogers.com/web/support/wireless/unlock/733?setLanguage=en
Loving this one:
Why do I have to wait 90 days before I can unlock my device?
Your device has been optimized for use on the Rogers network. You may find that some settings or features do not function properly once the device is unlocked and in use with another carrier's SIM card. We want to ensure that you've had the chance to experience the full capabilities of your device on the Rogers network before making the decision to unlock.
Rooting and bootloader unlock will make no difference to SIM unlock.
The two issues are separate.
gregbradley said:
Rooting and bootloader unlock will make no difference to SIM unlock.
The two issues are separate.
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If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
Flava0ne said:
If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
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Once your device is sim free (using code) it will remain unlocked no matter what you do
Flava0ne said:
If I unlock the SIM on my device via a code, will it still be unlocked even after re-flashing my device's firmware?
Because I just checked to see if I can unlock my device's bootloader, but I'm not able to at all. Maybe I will be after getting it unlocked by Rogers themselves after the 90 days.
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Please re-read what I said. Bootloader unlock and SIM unlock are two separate things. One does not affect the other. It does not matter what you do to one it will not change the status of the other.
gregbradley said:
Please re-read what I said. Bootloader unlock and SIM unlock are two separate things. One does not affect the other. It does not matter what you do to one it will not change the status of the other.
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Yes, I understood what you said. What I meant was, when or if I get Rogers to unlock my device, unless they're only unlocking the SIM on it, hopefully I'll be able to unlock the bootloader as if I originally purchased it unlocked to begin with. Because when I checked my device's service menu, the status on the bootloader is that it cannot be unlocked using Sony's official method. If I had purchased an unlocked device instead of getting it through Rogers, the bootloader unlockable status would be different, correct?
When I get home, I'll try and see if I can still unlock the bootloader un-officially using Flashtool, unless for some reason that method won't work at all and my bootloader will not be able to be unlocked at all currently.
Edit: All I basically want to accomplish in my new device is to have root access to it. My previous device was an Xperia PLAY which was also purchased originally locked from Rogers. But after fully unlocking it using the Omnius client, I was able to unlock it's bootloader, flash DooMLorD's kernel and get root access to it. Because all the tutorials I've found on how to access root on the Xperia Z3 involves having the bootloader unlocked.
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Yes, I understood what you said. What I meant was, when or if I get Rogers to unlock my device, unless they're only unlocking the SIM on it, hopefully I'll be able to unlock the bootloader as if I originally purchased it unlocked to begin with. Because when I checked my device's service menu, the status on the bootloader is that it cannot be unlocked using Sony's official method. If I had purchased an unlocked device instead of getting it through Rogers, the bootloader unlockable status would be different, correct?
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Probably, but some carrier free devices come with a boot that cannot be unlocked and some devices that are from a carrier can be unlocked. SIM free or SIM locked does not imply the bootloader can or cannot be unlocked.
When I get home, I'll try and see if I can still unlock the bootloader un-officially using Flashtool, unless for some reason that method won't work at all and my bootloader will not be able to be unlocked at all currently.
Edit: All I basically want to accomplish in my new device is to have root access to it. My previous device was an Xperia PLAY which was also purchased originally locked from Rogers. But after fully unlocking it using the Omnius client, I was able to unlock it's bootloader, flash DooMLorD's kernel and get root access to it. Because all the tutorials I've found on how to access root on the Xperia Z3 involves having the bootloader unlocked.
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There is no unofficial bootloader unlock for this device. Its done through sony's official method or not at all.
If Rodgers unlocks the sim for you it will not affect the status of the bootloader at all, unless you ask them to do it and they agree.
To get root access you do not need to be SIM unlocked. The only way to gain root acces on the Z3 currently is to unlock the bootloader, which you cannot do even if Rodgers SIM unlock it
The xperia play is a legacy device and there were unofficial ways to unlock the bootloader. That has not been the case with all new phones for a couple of years now. I believe (Correct me if I am wrong) that the xperia NEO was one of the last to come with an unofficial unlock (The test point method). My old Xperia T was one of the first to come that had no unofficial unlock and the only way to do it was via Sonys unlock site.
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Probably, but some carrier free devices come with a boot that cannot be unlocked and some devices that are from a carrier can be unlocked. SIM free or SIM locked does not imply the bootloader can or cannot be unlocked.
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That's something I didn't know, I've always thought that when you purchase an unlocked Android device that the bootloader would be unlockable, good to know!
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If Rodgers unlocks the sim for you it will not affect the status of the bootloader at all, unless you ask them to do it and they agree.
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So they can apparently change the unlock-able status of the bootloader themselves?
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The xperia play is a legacy device and there were unofficial ways to unlock the bootloader. That has not been the case with all new phones for a couple of years now. I believe (Correct me if I am wrong) that the xperia NEO was one of the last to come with an unofficial unlock (The test point method). My old Xperia T was one of the first to come that had no unofficial unlock and the only way to do it was via Sonys unlock site.
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So basically, unlocking Sony devices unofficially, stopped around the same time Sony Ericsson became only Sony?
Flava0ne said:
That's something I didn't know, I've always thought that when you purchase an unlocked Android device that the bootloader would be unlockable, good to know!
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So they can apparently change the unlock-able status of the bootloader themselves?
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Yes, there have been some posts that some people have managed to do this with some carriers, but I am very sceptical as to this actually happening.
So basically, unlocking Sony devices unofficially, stopped around the same time Sony Ericsson became only Sony?
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That may be coincidence, I believe that Sony made a tactical decision to stop unofficial methods by allowing some devices to be unlocked officially. This saw an almost immediate stop in devs working on unofficial unlocks as you could always get hold of a device that could be unlocked officially and for free. They basically took the need of an unofficial unlock out of the equation.
If Rogers could do that, it really makes me wonder what kind of tool/program that they use to accomplish this.
Probably something similar to Emma or just fastboot and adb. I really do not know that. The problem is they know the keys, without them it needs a good dev to find a vulnerability and write an exploit. That takes time and skill. And since there is an official method there seems no need to spend that time, as people with that skill just get themselves devices which can be unlocked
My 3rd day now with my new Z3 and I'm really missing having root access.
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Will SIM unlocking allow you to delete the Rogers apps?
Also, I noticed my phone doesn't let me hide apps, though most people seem to have that option... is that a Rogers thing or is there something wrong with my device?
Sim unlock has nothing to do with root, so sim unlocking will not give you the ability to remove system apps.
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Will SIM unlocking allow you to delete the Rogers apps?
Also, I noticed my phone doesn't let me hide apps, though most people seem to have that option... is that a Rogers thing or is there something wrong with my device?
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What i have done already to my device as soon as i got it, before even turning it on for the first time, was use Flashtool and flashed it with the Global Generic Firmware to get rid of the Rogers branding on it. I was able to disable most of the built in bloatware that originally comes with it.
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What i have done already to my device as soon as i got it, before even turning it on for the first time, was use Flashtool and flashed it with the Global Generic Firmware to get rid of the Rogers branding on it. I was able to disable most of the built in bloatware that originally comes with it.
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Will doing so essentially wipe my phone? Unfortunately I've already downloaded all my apps/customized it how I want otherwise, so I'd like to avoid that if possible. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I'm new to Android.
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Will doing so essentially wipe my phone? Unfortunately I've already downloaded all my apps/customized it how I want otherwise, so I'd like to avoid that if possible. Sorry if this seems like a stupid question, I'm new to Android.
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Not if you tick the box to exclude data on flashtool when you flash it
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Not if you tick the box to exclude data on flashtool when you flash it
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Is there some sort of beginners guide/explanation/walkthrough you can point me towards? I've never had an Android before, so I have no idea what I'm doing and I don't want to screw anything up.
I have a D2303 with locked bootloader , i want to unlock it but in service info is telling me i can't unlock it , the flastool tells me same thing what should i do ? i want to unlock it but it seems to be not possible , i also tryed the thing with SDK from internet it's too tricky , what shoult i do? what addvantages i got if i unlock it ? i'm new on Sony devices i moved from Samsung recently and i'm a bit confused :silly: any help is welcome .
It's impossible to unlock...
Is it simlocked? If it's simlocked to some network you are unable to unlock the bootloader. If you unlock the phone, you will be able to unlock the bootloader
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Is it simlocked? If it's simlocked to some network you are unable to unlock the bootloader. If you unlock the phone, you will be able to unlock the bootloader
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Unfornately yes ... it's network locked on orange so i need to unlock it before unlocking the bootloader? i saw in another thread the bootloader is not relevant with sim-lock , thanks for the info
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Unfornately yes ... it's network locked on orange so i need to unlock it before unlocking the bootloader? i saw in another thread the bootloader is not relevant with sim-lock , thanks for the info
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I had several phones that were sim locked and I was unable to unlock the bootloader. After sim unlocking them I was able to unlock the bootloader. The same goes for the Xperia M2, it was locked on T-Mobile MK, after unlocking the phone I was able to unlock the bootloader.
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Is it simlocked? If it's simlocked to some network you are unable to unlock the bootloader. If you unlock the phone, you will be able to unlock the bootloader
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So, I assume that if I flash a debranded firmware from Xperia M2 (My cellphone can't unlock Bootloader about the "[x]Newtork 10" is locked in SimLock) may unlock the bootloader without any troubles? Is that so? Or I'm mistaken?
If I'm correct, that'd be amazing, I'd like use other ways to personalize my phone but I can't 'cause of the stupid Bootloader xDD.
Thanks!
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So, I assume that if I flash a debranded firmware from Xperia M2 (My cellphone can't unlock Bootloader about the "[x]Newtork 10" is locked in SimLock) may unlock the bootloader without any troubles? Is that so? Or I'm mistaken?
If I'm correct, that'd be amazing, I'd like use other ways to personalize my phone but I can't 'cause of the stupid Bootloader xDD.
Thanks!
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Unfornately yes it's true how DavidMKD sayd before you need to unlock you device before unlocking the bootloader i asked few friends and XDA members and they confirmed too so , unlock the phone than you can unlock the bootloader
xLobito said:
So, I assume that if I flash a debranded firmware from Xperia M2 (My cellphone can't unlock Bootloader about the "[x]Newtork 10" is locked in SimLock) may unlock the bootloader without any troubles? Is that so? Or I'm mistaken?
If I'm correct, that'd be amazing, I'd like use other ways to personalize my phone but I can't 'cause of the stupid Bootloader xDD.
Thanks!
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Debranding basically removes all the bloatware that slow your phone down. You can't sim unlock with debranding, only with special code provided by some other sim unlock sites/ebay
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Debranding basically removes all the bloatware that slow your phone down. You can't sim unlock with debranding, only with special code provided by some other sim unlock sites/ebay
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Using the IMEI to get a code?
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xLobito said:
Using the IMEI to get a code?
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Exactly that. Try to enter it correctly because there is a limit on how many times you can enter to network unlock code. If it doesn't work on KitKat, downgrade it to 4.3 and enter the code. I had similar problem where I was unable to unlock on KK but on 4.3 worked fine.
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Exactly that. Try to enter it correctly because there is a limit on how many times you can enter to network unlock code. If it doesn't work on KitKat, downgrade it to 4.3 and enter the code. I had similar problem where I was unable to unlock on KK but on 4.3 worked fine.
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Well, about that, I have a "plan", or, better said, a contract between the carrier and the cellphone, so, I must wait for two days to complete the "legal" contract. So, after that, I guess that I can unlock the device and then, unlock bootloader.
Thanks for everything!
Hello, I just bought an Alcatel Onetouch idol 3, from my Romanian provider(Vodafone), as I saw in other threads over here, everyone's talking about sim unlocking on websites, but my question is..
Is there any way to unlock the sim via bootloader, or flashing another firmware ?
Thank you
I also tought of the next way:
Unlock bootloader via WinDroid, gain the supercid, then use the windows update utillity to make an firmware update to an unlocked firmware
What you think ?
Scutariu said:
I also tought of the next way:
Unlock bootloader via WinDroid, gain the supercid, then use the windows update utillity to make an firmware update to an unlocked firmware
What you think ?
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No one has reported on this forum to my knowledge a successful sim unlocking from a provider purchased idol 3. Here in USA it comes out unlocked from Amazon. I think you are confusing bootloader and sim unlock because I know of no "firmware" method of sim unlocking short of having the unlock code....although I certainly could be wrong Since you have only so many tries the best method is get your provider to give you the unlock code. Here in the USA you can get one from your provider if your account is in good standing and it's been 90 days since your last request. Most folks tell them they are going overseas and want to be able to use the phone....something similar might work for you?.
I went to my provider, and checked it there, the unlocking code was 60e, because the contract was still available, anyway..
I went to a GSM, and the guy took me 10e to unlock it xD
Actually have ATT A9(CID is BS-US001) with unlocked bootloader , root and s-off. after flashing unlocked ROM 1.57.617.52 still ask me for unlock code when i insert anouther sim. with ATT sim work properly. never see that before. Need your ideas. in getprop [gsm.network.type]: [Unknown]. so may be need to cnange gsm.version.baseband????
Thank in advise!
You have to get an unlock code from AT&T and unlock it yourself. Flashing a rom isn't going to sim unlock your phone.
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You have to get an unlock code from AT&T and unlock it yourself. Flashing a rom isn't going to sim unlock your phone.
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Is unlocked ROM means unlocked GSM like Google play edition for M7? wich one ROM give me unlocked (sim free) phone?
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Is unlocked ROM means unlocked GSM like Google play edition for M7? wich one ROM give me unlocked (sim free) phone?
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There's no rom that unlocks your phone. Call att and request an unlock code.
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There's no rom that unlocks your phone. Call att and request an unlock code.
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i have an unlock code but...... the phone not accepted it. may be need brick it totally and then flash it. i am s-off.
Ahhh I thought you were trying to unlock the phone by flashing a rom lol. All you need to do is go back to any stock rom you want and then put the non ATT Sim in, use the unlock code, and then flash whatever other rom you want