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First off I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this and I also searched for the past few days and have had no luck finding anything much on this. Most stuff I come accross is talking about the phone having a built in fm transmitter that doesn't work - blah blah blah. So here goes, I'm now on Paul's Froyo ROM and for the first time decided to try using the phone for playing music in my car thru a wired fm transmitter and it was not good. I now have three fm transmitters (2 I bought and the final one my brother gave me his that he used to use in his car with no problems) all give me the same results which is it seems okay playing through parts of songs that don't have much bass but once bass starts to hit it gets all awful stattic sounding and the Stereo (ST) indicator on my radio blinks so somehow the sound quality goes all bad. I've narrowed it down to obviously being something with the phone somehow cause I've tried with iPhones and another MP3 player and they (FM transmitters) work perfectly. I've also tried it with IntersectRaven's and CM's kernels for Froyo to see if the kernels might make a difference and no luck. So my question is, is this a known issue with the N1 or is this an issue with Froyo and isn't the case with say CM 5.0.7.1, anyone with experience can shed some light? Was thinking to go back to CM but after seeing all the threads of the issues in doing so decided not to but if this is not the case with other ROMs then it would make me switch back until a official Cyanogenized Froyo is out. If this is the wrong forum then my apologies and Dev's plz move to correct forum.
Update: I've messed with it some more and have been able to get it to play fine with Pershoots kernel but I have to turn down the media volume to approximately 70%. So it seems to me that with the media volume up all the way it must be drawing too much power or something from the headphone jack to make the output all distorted. I haven't tried with IntersectRaven's kernel to say if I get the same result since I'm just happy the darn thing works now. I'll also do a post in the Develoment forum linking to this in case anyone there may want to investigate this issue.
Sounds to me like every experience I've ever had with every FM transmitter. They just don't transmit loudness or bass well. I don't think it's the phone, I think its the FM Transmitter technology.
edit: could just be the volume boost or something on the specific kernel (not even sure if the kernel's you are talking about have a volume boost) but that may increase the max volume out and cause the problem.
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Sounds to me like every experience I've ever had with every FM transmitter. They just don't transmit loudness or bass well. I don't think it's the phone, I think its the FM Transmitter technology.
edit: could just be the volume boost or something on the specific kernel (not even sure if the kernel's you are talking about have a volume boost) but that may increase the max volume out and cause the problem.
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yes exactly, try a vanilla kernel and see how that plays out... I am curious of your findings...
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First off I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this and I also searched for the past few days and have had no luck finding anything much on this. Most stuff I come accross is talking about the phone having a built in fm transmitter that doesn't work - blah blah blah. So here goes, I'm now on Paul's Froyo ROM and for the first time decided to try using the phone for playing music in my car thru a wired fm transmitter and it was not good. I now have three fm transmitters (2 I bought and the final one my brother gave me his that he used to use in his car with no problems) all give me the same results which is it seems okay playing through parts of songs that don't have much bass but once bass starts to hit it gets all awful stattic sounding and the Stereo (ST) indicator on my radio blinks so somehow the sound quality goes all bad. I've narrowed it down to obviously being something with the phone somehow cause I've tried with iPhones and another MP3 player and they (FM transmitters) work perfectly. I've also tried it with IntersectRaven's and CM's kernels for Froyo to see if the kernels might make a difference and no luck. So my question is, is this a known issue with the N1 or is this an issue with Froyo and isn't the case with say CM 5.0.7.1, anyone with experience can shed some light? Was thinking to go back to CM but after seeing all the threads of the issues in doing so decided not to but if this is not the case with other ROMs then it would make me switch back until a official Cyanogenized Froyo is out. If this is the wrong forum then my apologies and Dev's plz move to correct forum.
Update: I've messed with it some more and have been able to get it to play fine with Pershoots kernel but I have to turn down the media volume to approximately 70%. So it seems to me that with the media volume up all the way it must be drawing too much power or something from the headphone jack to make the output all distorted. I haven't tried with IntersectRaven's kernel to say if I get the same result since I'm just happy the darn thing works now. I'll also do a post in the Develoment forum linking to this in case anyone there may want to investigate this issue.
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what you are describing is quiet normal if you drive the input of the fm transmitter too hard. You even found out the solution; lower the volume.
Yeh, but the thing that was baffling me was that the iPhones I tried worked fine with volume blasted and so did a MP3 player and that was with 3 different FM transmitters. I originally thought it was the transmitter so that's why I ended up buying another one to try then asking my brother for his which I know he used to have running with no issues. But after thinking about it for a while and searching some more I found posts in the kernel threads about audio boost so that's what made me think to turn the volume on the phone down.
Would like to try a vanilla kernel if you can link me to where to find one that's compatible with Froyo.
And actually I think I'm using CM's Froyo kernel but from what I understand it has pretty much the same tweaks as Pershoot's. Also need to go back to IntersectRaven's and try again with the vol down a bit but I don't have enough battery life left to feel comfortable flashing it.
For the FM-transmitter that I use in my car it's actually stated in the manual that you should keep the volume at about 50% on the device as to not ruin the sound. So I guess this is quite normal and just means you have to adjust the volume on the car stereo a bit.
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Yeh, but the thing that was baffling me was that the iPhones I tried worked fine with volume blasted and so did a MP3 player and that was with 3 different FM transmitters. I originally thought it was the transmitter so that's why I ended up buying another one to try then asking my brother for his which I know he used to have running with no issues. But after thinking about it for a while and searching some more I found posts in the kernel threads about audio boost so that's what made me think to turn the volume on the phone down.
Would like to try a vanilla kernel if you can link me to where to find one that's compatible with Froyo.
And actually I think I'm using CM's Froyo kernel but from what I understand it has pretty much the same tweaks as Pershoot's. Also need to go back to IntersectRaven's and try again with the vol down a bit but I don't have enough battery life left to feel comfortable flashing it.
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All kernels are compatible with froyo, just go to the kernels thread and find a sock one
Hey guys,
I've just got droid charge last week and I like everything about it (only after rooting and installing Gummycharged), but there is one huge problem for me. Well, it might be 2, but one of them is slightly better with Gummycharged and voodoo lagfix.
Here's the issue - I love listening to music in my car through bluetooth and until recently I've been using my Ipod touch 4g and it has been working flawlessly and music quality was great. Now, once I got the Droid Charge, I've noticed 2 things - every minute or 2 the songs would skip (interrupt), and the sound quality was pretty terrible (mainly with the high end - sounded like tweeters were being overloaded).
Rooting the phone helped with skipping - it now happens once in 10 minutes or so, so that's acceptable, however the sound quality is still pretty horrible. I've looked around on these forums and people had similar issues with quality with their stock phones and most people suggest CyanogenMod. I'm not all that familiar with what different ROMs are available for Charge, but as far as I can tell this one isn't. Does anyone know if there is way to fix/configure the quality of bluetooth transmission on this phone? Is there any mod I can install? Anyone having similar issues?
Any help is much appreciated!
FuriousOne said:
Hey guys,
I've just got droid charge last week and I like everything about it (only after rooting and installing Gummycharged), but there is one huge problem for me. Well, it might be 2, but one of them is slightly better with Gummycharged and voodoo lagfix.
Here's the issue - I love listening to music in my car through bluetooth and until recently I've been using my Ipod touch 4g and it has been working flawlessly and music quality was great. Now, once I got the Droid Charge, I've noticed 2 things - every minute or 2 the songs would skip (interrupt), and the sound quality was pretty terrible (mainly with the high end - sounded like tweeters were being overloaded).
Rooting the phone helped with skipping - it now happens once in 10 minutes or so, so that's acceptable, however the sound quality is still pretty horrible. I've looked around on these forums and people had similar issues with quality with their stock phones and most people suggest CyanogenMod. I'm not all that familiar with what different ROMs are available for Charge, but as far as I can tell this one isn't. Does anyone know if there is way to fix/configure the quality of bluetooth transmission on this phone? Is there any mod I can install? Anyone having similar issues?
Any help is much appreciated!
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Have you looked at this thread? It's more about disconnections, but the fix they list might help you, too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099603
chadness said:
Have you looked at this thread? It's more about disconnections, but the fix they list might help you, too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099603
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Thanks, but the problem is more fundamental, I suppose. Looks like HTC and Samsung use some custom bluetooth code in their ROMs. Apparently it limits the bitpool value at 32, which makes the audio quality terrible over bluetooth. Surprisingly, everyone knows what the problem is but so far the only reported solution is the cyanogenmod.
Here's more about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708685
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888
Wow, nasty and long standing! Glad I didn't buy one of those headsets like I was going to. *sigh*
Hey guys,
I'm running GummyCharged 1.85 w/ the voodoo kernel (pbj) and also getting skips over bluetooth to my car stereo. It's seriously distracting and annoying. My Droid 2 worked flawlessly in this respect, but it seems like any time the Charge does any "thinking" it makes the BT audio skip.
Any hope of a fix for this?
My Charge is stock and I haven't had a chance to try the bluetooth audio streaming yet, but when I plug my phone into my car to listen to music through the aux jack it does the same thing, about once every song it skips. Seems odd. I'll try bluetooth today on my way to school and see what happens. You'd think with Bluetooth 3.0 on board the signal would be strong enough to stream decent quality music...
I can confirm this issue is there and in your face a lot. I tried it on the way to school (about a 40 minute ride), it skipped once or twice every few minutes, no big deal. The quality was acceptable for wireless transfer, nothing to write home about. Not a lot of low end, and just a hint of static and slightly over-boosted highs. However I tried it again on the way home once I realized I had forgotten my aux cable, and it skipped so often I just switched to FM. It was so annoying. I can confirm your suspicions that it seems to happen when the phone is trying to do something. Switching towers, background apps, turning on data and checking traffic with Google Maps really freaked it out, but it was fine once I was done. Kinda sucks for those who wish to use the feature regularly.
Update?
I have a droid charge, and the bluetooth streaming quality really sucks, like the OP pointed out, highs are really bad.
Tried with my friends iphone and it worked flawlessly.
CyanogenMod is still unavailable for the droid charge as far as I can tell.
Is there any other fix that anyone has found that will fix the bluetooth sound quality when streaming music?
Any help or places to look is appreciated.
Okay so I have had CM7 (benru 89) on my AT&T fusion for a while now, rooting the phone and flashing the new ROM I had no issues what so ever, everything went super smoothly, as I expected it would... until I received my first phone call, that's when I realized that my speaker sounds like its blown after about half volume and up. I didn't have this problem on the stock ROM as I listened to music and such regularly, (the sound quality and volume levels were surprisingly good for a 100 dollar phone) and was doing so 5 min before flashing CM7. As soon as the new ROM was operational, this issue seemed to come out of no where... I've read on a few blogs that this may be due to the enhanced audio features of this ROM, but no advice on how to fix it, so any advice as to how I can fix this would be greatly appreciated, as the decent sound quality on the fusion was part of the reason I decided to keep this phone and mod it... Thanks... for the record the ROM IS GREAT, other than the audio issue, everything else is amazing, phone is super fast for a fusion, and super smooth also!!!
Hi,
Just picked up a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 to use as a hiqh quality audio player on the run with my headphones. This was the result of some heavy research and a few posts of praise by Supercurio himself:
On Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, #WM1811 driver uses already the optimal analog mixer configuration I'm calling "Dac Direct" in #VoodooSound. Nice!
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Yup #GalaxySIII and #GalaxyTab 2 7.0 DAC both give lower distortions levels than FIIO E17 USB DAC. Measurements just confirmed perception.
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So, now that hardware seem to be top notch I don't want to mess up the software part. :silly:
1. Will flashing a non-stock ROM mess up the "Dac Direct" configuration?
2. Any recommended ROM with full focus on audio quality through headphones?
3. Or will actually any AOSP KitKat ROM be able to deliver maximum audio quality?
I don't care about effects. Just want as good audio quality through the headphone jack as possible. I will most likely install the "maximum volume mod" (found in the forum) and Viper4Android on any rom used.
Any input is appreciated!
Thanks.
Take a look at this rom
It's stock based.
-ix- said:
Hi,
Just picked up a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 to use as a hiqh quality audio player on the run with my headphones. This was the result of some heavy research and a few posts of praise by Supercurio himself:
So, now that hardware seem to be top notch I don't want to mess up the software part. :silly:
1. Will flashing a non-stock ROM mess up the "Dac Direct" configuration?
2. Any recommended ROM with full focus on audio quality through headphones?
3. Or will actually any AOSP KitKat ROM be able to deliver maximum audio quality?
I don't care about effects. Just want as good audio quality through the headphone jack as possible. I will most likely install the "maximum volume mod" (found in the forum) and Viper4Android on any rom used.
Any input is appreciated!
Thanks.
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Sungsonic HD is best Stock based ROM ever which offers premium quality sound. There are basically two Kitkat based ROMs (AFAIK) named Izer HD and Dhollman ROM which have Viper4Android sound effects with great inbuilt equalizers... here you go :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2668994
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2580426
in case of Dhollman you will have to flash Viper4android sounds effects separately....but in Izer hd it comes by default......
CyanogenMod has a nice audio tuner allowing you to tune your sound to your likings.
If it is not already clear, you can also tune your headphones sound.
Big thanks to all of you for taking the time to reply to my question.
I'm a bit worried though that the ROMs mentioned - well not CM, but the other two - seem to have loads of apps, mods and tweaks ported from other devices which could actually cause instability and degrade the sound. Of course, I don't really know this since I haven't tried them myself, but having flashed a lot of ROMs on other devices I've learned that this is often the case....
I am leaning towards trying two different configurations and then deciding.
Stock (rooted) + Viper4Android
CM11 + Viper4Android
Once again, thanks for your input!
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Somehow I missed the suggestion of Dhollmen KitKat ROM above. That actually seems really interresting. I like the fact that it is compiled using Linaro, which suggest a nice attention to detail by the dev.
-ix- said:
Big thanks to all of you for taking the time to reply to my question.
I'm a bit worried though that the ROMs mentioned - well not CM, but the other two - seem to have loads of apps, mods and tweaks ported from other devices which could actually cause instability and degrade the sound. Of course, I don't really know this since I haven't tried them myself, but having flashed a lot of ROMs on other devices I've learned that this is often the case....
I am leaning towards trying two different configurations and then deciding.
Stock (rooted) + Viper4Android
CM11 + Viper4Android
Once again, thanks for your input!
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If you are actually trying to install it, it'd be a nice try to tune your sound, keep the volume a bit low, and over that, try to make some mixer/equalizer tuning to make it sound quite a bit louder, while still sounding nice, without any distortions. Somewhat like Loudness Equalization.
CyanogenMod is basically full stock Android, with a few tweaks, some of them including Audio.
Speaking of loads of apps installed..
DSP Manager is included with CyanogenMod... and not much apps have been added. It's also much faster than your average Android ROM.
CyanogenModFTW said:
If you are actually trying to install it, it'd be a nice try to tune your sound, keep the volume a bit low, and over that, try to make some mixer/equalizer tuning to make it sound quite a bit louder, while still sounding nice, without any distortions. Somewhat like Loudness Equalization.
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Yes, properly EQing my headphones is the main reason for installing Viper. I do it a lot on my computer, using a parametric EQ, and to tell the truth, I can't really enjoy music anymore without being able to finely tune my headphones....
I don't care at all for other effects as my experience is that they always degrade the sound (which is also why I steered away from the ROMs mentioned above, even if they are popular).
Strange enough though, I didn't find the volume lacking at all. To me, the headphone amp is powerful enough on stock settings. :good:
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I do like DSP Manager in CM (running CM10.1 and CM11 on other devices). It's a really great EQ, and pretty refined crossfeed effect. However, IMHO Viper is a little bit better for my needs.
-ix- said:
Yes, properly EQing my headphones is the main reason for installing Viper. I do it a lot on my computer, using a parametric EQ, and to tell the truth, I can't really enjoy music anymore without being able to finely tune my headphones....
I don't care at all for other effects as my experience is that they always degrade the sound (which is also why I steered away from the ROMs mentioned above, even if they are popular).
Strange enough though, I didn't find the volume lacking at all. To me, the headphone amp is powerful enough on stock settings. :good:
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I do have a nice configuration on my p5100, I have my sound set to low, but it's great and loud sounding. I have enabled bass boosting, and made a custom Equalizer preset that boosts up the mid frequencies quite a bit.
Also, CyanogenMod is a fast and fluid, lightweight ROM which is also good for everyday uses. The tweaks make for a good ROM, so far I haven't had any problems.
You should try the settings which work best with your speakers or headphones, they are never the same and never reproduce the same frequencies.
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It was also worth to mention that I have reccomended Cyanogen because DSP Manager is really simple to use. I've found the tweaks and effects to be instant.
I have now rooted my P3110 and installed Viper4Android. Only judging from what I hear, the "direct DAC" configuration (mentioned in the first post) does not seem to be messed up, because the audio coming out of the headphone jack still seems immaculately clear. :good:
Using Viper I can now tweak the EQ to my heart's content. Just wish there were a few more bands....
Since I'm mostly using my P3110 for listening to music, I think I will stay stock for now. Doesn't seem all that laggy to me!
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Somehow I missed the suggestion of Dhollmen KitKat ROM above. That actually seems really interresting. I like the fact that it is compiled using Linaro, which suggest a nice attention to detail by the dev.[/QUOTE]
By far the best. There will be no disappointment. Try it and judge for yourself
Thanks for your advice. I have now installed Dhollmen AOKP KitKat ROM, and I must say the speed and snappiness of the GUI is nothing short of amazing. Suddenly feels like a high end device - I'm thoroughly impressed! :good:
Now, to the sound. I think it's really good. The clarity is still there. But there seems to be some kind of bass boost always enabled. Even turning Viper completely off the level of bass definitely feels higher than before.
Is this all in my head or could it be explained by something under the hood?
Maybe the bass was a bit recessed with stock ROM...
Anyway, after experiencing this speed, there is no going back!
Sent a long time ago from a Galaxy S2 far, far away...
For future reference....
After listening a lot on said configuration I can now with full confidence claim that the audio output is truly great. I actually think the bass was unnaturally recessed on the stock ROM, as previously suspected.
Furthermore, I have done the Boosted volume mod found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294136 It helps immensely to improve the output stage, which now drives my somewhat hard to drive headphones immaculately!
So, to conclude this thread, for others looking for the best possible audio quality on their Tab 2, do try:
Any non-bloated Kit Kat ROM + Viper4Android + Boosted volume mod. :good:
Dhollmen, mentioned above, comes pre-installed with Viper, and is a great polished ROM, but I guess any bare bones Kit Kat ROM would do the job, such as Omni or CM.
Happy audiophiling!
I've got this really annoying issue that I keep somehow getting rid of, but it comes back on it's own.
Any sound that plays from the phone e.g. Ringtones, YouTube, Poweramp, etc...
The audio levels get clipped, like something is trying to adjust the gain of the sound, parts that should be loud are not loud, but instead clipped to a really low level.
I've disabled AudioFX, cleared the data for it, and disabled the audio settings within Poweramp.
I've tried to get an example of it with my camera, but of course it's not doing it when I pull out the camera, next time Poweramp does it, I'll record it.
If I receive a call it clips the ringtone sometimes, but I tried calling the phone a second time and it didn't clip.
Really don't know what's going on, just want the audio to work properly.
I'm on 33R, Unlocked Bootloader Rooted.
If anyone knows how to fix this, I'd be really happy.
Could anyone also recommend an app that's like Poweramp, but free? I like it, but it's not quite right.
Removed Poweramp and the problem appears to be gone.
Even though I had all the audio settings disabled in Poweramp?
Still having the issue...
I have no idea what to look for now.
I seem to be having the same issue occasionally. It doesn't bother me overly much though. I just don't think the internal speakers of of the highest quality but everything else on this device is superb
I do however believe at least some of the issue is caused by the fact the the speaker grill holes are quite small so when the volume is high a lot of air pressure is created in the speaker cavity which may attribute to the the problem.
It's purely software.
Happens with the volume at 50% as well.
I have this issue too. Thought it was my headphones so tried all my pairs and it happens on all of them. Its an issue the Nexus 5 has as well and it has to do with how the phone handles the signal from the towers from you're carrier. As to my knowledge there is no fix for it yet.
https://github.com/anarkia1976/AK-OnePone/commit/8babaa621600e5b9e4614537aa75dd64988c9288
I switched to SlimKat ROM, haven't had the issue since my last post in this thread.
ak said:
https://github.com/anarkia1976/AK-OnePone/commit/8babaa621600e5b9e4614537aa75dd64988c9288
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So are the working on a fix or how do we fix it? Because its annoying af.
Just wanted to report in again.
Still haven't had the audio clipping issue since switching to SlimKat.
The audio issue was really the only reason I had to even bother trying a ROM other than CM11S.
My experience with SlimKat on I9300 was a no-brainer to be the first ROM to try on my One.
Borgschulze said:
Just wanted to report in again.
Still haven't had the audio clipping issue since switching to SlimKat.
The audio issue was really the only reason I had to even bother trying a ROM other than CM11S.
My experience with SlimKat on I9300 was a no-brainer to be the first ROM to try on my One.
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Running PA 4.6 Beta and its horrible. I can't stream one song on Spotify with out it clipping through. May be downloading SlimKat tonight to give it a go.
I still get the clipping on Slimkat, battery life is great tho.
Which build? I'm on Stable 7.0
When I call someone, the ringing sounds kind of funny, but other than that, every other sound works perfect so far.