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Hey all,
I've been searching everywhere in google as well as in XDA with no success. I am trying to do a full Nandroid backup (just like people are advising you to do when changing roms).
I currently have Clockwork 3.0.0 and am Rooted on stock. When I go into recovery, the only thing I have in regards to backup is just "backup" and no "Nandroid Backup" like people are saying all over the forums. Do I have to install something specific? I am puzzled! Is nandroid a method of backing up or the name of a program?
Also, when I backed up using Clockword >> Backup I found its only around 300mb so I assume it doesnt backup your SD content (i.e. pictures and videos + programs) as well? Is there a way to do a FULL image with literally everything?
Any help will be appreciated!
Hi...well backup sounds about right. Don't worry about whether it says nandroid or not. Mind doesn't. Just go ahead and do the backup.
And as for the SD card...well no need to worry there either because the SD contents do not get wiped out anyway, so there's no need for it to be backed up in the sameway.
Hope that helps.
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When I'm looking at the development section, it says that it will "WIPE ALL YOUR DATA". Doesn't this suggest I should also backup my pictures + videos?
Thanks for the help!
The only thing that wipes all your data and sdcard is a fastboot oem unlock, and it sounds like you're already past there. Flashing new roms and choosing "wipe data" in clockwork recovery does not touch your sdcard at all.
It's always a good idea to backup your photos and videos just in case. It only takes a few minutes and better to waste a few minutes than lose a precious irreplaceable video of the kid's first steps.
Nothing should wipe your sdcard other than the fastboot oem unlock, but that doesn't mean it can't be wiped by mistake. I just responded in another thread where the guy accidentally formatted his sdcard. Everything gone.
Better safe than sorry, in my opinion.
haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?
co0kie said:
haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?
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It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.
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It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.
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So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,
co0kie said:
So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,
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Titanium will backup apps and data that are on the sdcard if you put them there with the apps2sd feature. It's smart that way. I'm talking about the apps that store settings and stuff (like Titanium itself, Launcher Pro, ADW, the gym log apps I've used, lots of games, etc) that put user data on the sdcard outside of the protected or apps2sd storage area on the sdcard.
I don't use an app for rsync, I just use the rsync command from the terminal on my Mac.
There's a couple of rsync apps on the Market. Someone mentioned using an app to rsync in one of the threads on here not too long ago. Here's an appbrain link to a search on the term rsync, it only shows two apps.
What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this
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What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this
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Yes, that's what I meant. It also covers just about all of the various apps to the sdcard hacks that various rom makers have implemented over the last year or two; certainly the popular ones like cyanogen and darktremor's versions.
If you get Titanium Pro, pay for the license. It will enable batch restore where all your apps can be restored at once without user intervention, otherwise I believe you have to okay each one individually.
I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?
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I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?
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If you move the app to the sd, the restore will put the app back in its location where it was during the backup. Just run a batch backup of all changed applications after moving anything around.
After you flash a new rom, just run a batch restore: apps and data only, usually not a good idea to restore system settings across different roms.
Hi Folks,
I hope I'm not asking questions already covered, so apologies or redirects if I have. I just rooted my phone for the first time last night so I'm a little timid to take steps further without asking a few things.
1) I have both the Clockwork Recovery and Titanium Backup (free version), but TiBackup did its backup on the internal SD while CWR did it on the external SD. Is there a way to have TiBackup redirect the spot it saves its backups to?
2) People recommend Root Explorer to get rid of the bloatware that exists, but outside of paying for either that or TiBackup (that I don't terribly love), is there a free app that does the same thing, or preferably just does a freeze. I'm not concerned with paying for it, but since I'm new to this stuff, I'd rather not waste money on things that don't have longevity or more than just an experimental use if I don't have to.
Thanks for the help
shahp said:
Hi Folks,
I hope I'm not asking questions already covered, so apologies or redirects if I have. I just rooted my phone for the first time last night so I'm a little timid to take steps further without asking a few things.
1) I have both the Clockwork Recovery and Titanium Backup (free version), but TiBackup did its backup on the internal SD while CWR did it on the external SD. Is there a way to have TiBackup redirect the spot it saves its backups to?
2) People recommend Root Explorer to get rid of the bloatware that exists, but outside of paying for either that or TiBackup (that I don't terribly love), is there a free app that does the same thing, or preferably just does a freeze. I'm not concerned with paying for it, but since I'm new to this stuff, I'd rather not waste money on things that don't have longevity or more than just an experimental use if I don't have to.
Thanks for the help
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i have paid Titanium backup, so i know on that you can change the location where the backup is used.
i bought root explorer and titanium back up in november 2010, and have used it on 3 different phones since. i too hate paying for software that i think may not work, but i have used these programs beyond their value, and was 200% satisfied with my purchase. dont hesistate, just buy them. once you root, these programs are priceless. i use root explorer for more than just root stuff, i dont use astro, or even the stock CM file explorer root explorer is just fine and even works without root (will work like astro).
there is an app called app admin that works to remove bloat. i find root explorer easier as it kinda identifys what certain programs are by icon, where app admin you need to know what it is before deleting. app admin tho you can check off multiple apps and delete them all at the same time, where root explorer is one by one, and you will need to do a battery pull after a removing certain apps such as wifi calling, so you may need more than one battery pull, where with app admin it should only make you do one battery pull.
so i say buy the 2 apps you mentioned, it cant hurt and as long as you are willing to stay with android, the value is priceless
shahp said:
Hi Folks,
I hope I'm not asking questions already covered, so apologies or redirects if I have. I just rooted my phone for the first time last night so I'm a little timid to take steps further without asking a few things.
1) I have both the Clockwork Recovery and Titanium Backup (free version), but TiBackup did its backup on the internal SD while CWR did it on the external SD. Is there a way to have TiBackup redirect the spot it saves its backups to?
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You can change the backup location of TB in the preferences menu. Just look for "Backup folder location"
shahp said:
2) People recommend Root Explorer to get rid of the bloatware that exists, but outside of paying for either that or TiBackup (that I don't terribly love), is there a free app that does the same thing, or preferably just does a freeze. I'm not concerned with paying for it, but since I'm new to this stuff, I'd rather not waste money on things that don't have longevity or more than just an experimental use if I don't have to.
Thanks for the help
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You could try using file expert, they now have a root setting in the settings menu, tho I have yet to get it to copy many files over at once without it crashing or stalling. Other then that, you could learn the ADB commands to do the same thing.
I use Super Manager. Its free. It'd look better without the weird color scheme but it works fine as a root explorer and lets you read/write to the system folder.
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You can change the backup location of TB in the preferences menu. Just look for "Backup folder location"
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Cool. I tried redirecting to a new folder on the external SD and it asked whether or not I wanted to port things from the old directory to the new one, which I responded yes. But it didn't do it, and prompted to continue using the old one. Can I just delete the /TitaniumBackup folder that exists now, and have it make a fresh back up on the SD card?
Do I even need a TiBackup if i already have a CWR one on the SD card already? I'm still unsure if they back up the same data differently, or it's the same.
Thanks to everyone for the advice.
shahp said:
Cool. I tried redirecting to a new folder on the external SD and it asked whether or not I wanted to port things from the old directory to the new one, which I responded yes. But it didn't do it, and prompted to continue using the old one. Can I just delete the /TitaniumBackup folder that exists now, and have it make a fresh back up on the SD card?
Do I even need a TiBackup if i already have a CWR one on the SD card already? I'm still unsure if they back up the same data differently, or it's the same.
Thanks to everyone for the advice.
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Titanium allows you to restore your apps across different ROM's and even different phones. CWM can only restore entire ROM's and is only really useful if a newly installed ROM or kernel cause a problem and you need to restore an old one through recovery. Titanium is an invaluable program and I recommended you purchase the paid version.
shahp said:
Cool. I tried redirecting to a new folder on the external SD and it asked whether or not I wanted to port things from the old directory to the new one, which I responded yes. But it didn't do it, and prompted to continue using the old one. Can I just delete the /TitaniumBackup folder that exists now, and have it make a fresh back up on the SD card?
Do I even need a TiBackup if i already have a CWR one on the SD card already? I'm still unsure if they back up the same data differently, or it's the same.
Thanks to everyone for the advice.
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TB is only for apps+data, while Nandroid does a backup of the entire system.
Also with nandroids it creates .img files so you would not be able to get apps back and use on different roms like the previous poster. If you wish to start fresh, just delete current directory and point to the new one on the external SD card.
I just did my first ROM / unlock / TWRP /CROM install today and all went perfect thanks to all the guides here, but I have some questions now, more so about my TWRP flash....
I just updated twrp from 2.3.3 to the newest 2.4.4 following their guide using goo manager. I assume it was successful because I'm typing on her now' however.... My home screen now displays <Safe mode> on thebottom left.... Why is this? Also, after the flash, I lost my swiiftkey board app? Actually, seemed to have lost all my apps lol... What did I do wrong? (I didnt titanium backup before I updated, didn't know I needed too lol)
Do most use both nandroid backup AND titanium or just one?
Think that's all I have for now....
BTW, on Cleanrom in her 3.4.7 odex i think...
Edit, I still have all my app icons on my screen, but not in the main menu?
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I just did my first ROM / unlock / TWRP /CROM install today and all went perfect thanks to all the guides here, but I have some questions now, more so about my TWRP flash....
I just updated twrp from 2.3.3 to the newest 2.4.4 following their guide using goo manager. I assume it was successful because I'm typing on her now' however.... My home screen now displays <Safe mode> on thebottom left.... Why is this? Also, after the flash, I lost my swiiftkey board app? Actually, seemed to have lost all my apps lol... What did I do wrong? (I didnt titanium backup before I updated, didn't know I needed too lol)
Do most use both nandroid backup AND titanium or just one?
Think that's all I have for now....
BTW, on Cleanrom in her 3.4.7 odex i think...
Edit, I still have all my app icons on my screen, but not in the main menu?
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Have you try to power down, then power it backup?? If successful you should have all your apps back.
Edit: what firmware you were on before flashing CROMI??
Yes sir, soon as I did a quick 2nd reboot, she was back to normal. Thank you for the reply, I just get nervous with this being my first time time. Go figure, and finally give up waiting for 4.2, unlock and romantic up, and it drops the next day lol.
I was on 10.4.4.25 I think
Proweedsmoker said:
Yes sir soon as I did a quick 2nd reboot, she was back to normal. Thank you for the reply, I just get nervous with this being my first time time. Go figure, and finally give up waiting for 4.2, unlock and romantic up, and it drops the next day lol.
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Hahaha, indeed of your luck! but not to worry, sdbags is going to get the update 4.2 dlpkgfile sometime today and we should see our 4.2 cromi sooner than expected...in a few days...
Few more questions
Just had a few more questions that I thought of while playing with my NEW tablet, (I honestly stopped using my tablet for months after I got it because it was so laggy, and CROMI has changed all of that!!!!!!!) and figured I would bump this thread vrs start a new one... Sorry for the noob questions, but knowledge is power and Im trying to learn! ( I do read alot! )
Currently on TWRP 2.4.4, CROMI 3.4.7 Odex w/ the OC Kernel 1.8ghz
Now, I have noticed a huge increase in my system files from when I came from stock... IE Stock, I had around 55gigs or something free on internal memory, now, I have around 30, is this normal and what is using that much space? I currently appear to have 2x backups in TWRP menu..
I also have got the Titanium backup as suggested, and backup regularly... But what exactly is it backing up other then apps? Does it create the same backup files that TWRP does? I assume TWRP is backing up the critical O/S files??
How many backups in TWRP are needed and when can I delete (if ever) some? Im guessing here, that TWRP is needed only if you get stuck in bootloop or some other situation that prevents a full boot to home screen?
Should I try to find the backup files in TWRP and Titanium and copy them to my home PC for safe keeping? (I did follow the guides and also have them on clouds)
When preforming a "clean install" of an updated CROMI version, will those backup files on the internal storage be wiped, or are they protected from a wipe / "clean install"? Is a "dirty flash" un-advised? I plan to only use CROMI roms...
I also downloaded the ROM manager thing, as suggested by some.... but, do I really need that? It seems like its just a Titanium clone, with some extras... Also, the ROM manager has some things like boot animations and such, are those safe to use with CROMI? I was looking at some apps to clean up my storage from junk files, but I wonder, if those apps are compatible with CROMI?!?
Ok, thats all I have for now I think, and thank you for the help as always!!!!
OK. I will provide you the best advise as possible but there are variations depend on individual taste.
1. Internal memory growth - possible you backup to your internal instead of external sdcard. Look for large file like videos, rom/kernel in the /sdcard/ download folder. Do clear cache weekly. I just assumed that you download all the roms and backup to your internal.
2. Backing up
a) TWRP - this is called nandroid backup. It will back up your entire OS with all the apps and cache and setup...everything. Before you upgrade from one rom version to the next you should take a backup before do so. Or once in a while if you making a major change to your OS on the same version, you should do a second backup. This backup can restore you back exactly the way it was before you mess up. The disadvantage is you don't have a choice to pick and choose what you can restore. It's either all or none. For this you should keep one backup for the current OS, one for major modified to current OS, one for new OS and one for major modified to the new OS, so total about 4 max. Unless you flashing more than just cromi. This nandroid backup will bring you back your previous setup if you have boot loop.
b) Titaniumbackup - This only backup your system apps, user installed apps and all the settings belonged to the app. You can't use this to restore your OS.(like when you have bootloop). It used to restore applications only. To keep the backup from growing, you should set Max backup history to 5. It's only keep maximum of 5 recent backups.
3. Clean install will only wipe INTERNAL memory, not your external SDcard. So it's highly to keep your Titaniumbackup and TWRP backup on your External sdcard. For double protection make a backup of your sdcard to PC.
4. Personally, I stay away from Rom Manager. Only use bootanimantion, themes etc.. from the tf700 threads. Rom Manager is not tf700 specific so some features may work, some may even brick your device.
5. App to clean up junkfiles - you don't need such app. Most of the stuff you download will be in the /sdcard/download or in the download app folder, example if you use Sugar Sync app to download, the download file will be in /sdcard/mysugarsync folder. You need to keep track of what you put onto the devcie is the best way to manage your internal storage. For external sdcard, you should keep 1), rom, kernel or any necessary zip files to reinstall your OS. 2) all your TWRP and Titanium backup files 3) Anything that important to you.
Hope it all makes sense to you!
Internal memory growth - possible you backup to your internal instead of external sdcard. Look for large file like videos, rom/kernel in the /sdcard/ download folder. Do clear cache weekly. I just assumed that you download all the roms and backup to your internal.
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Yes, I was backing up to the internal memory! I have now backed up TWRP onto my microSD card! I was trying to change Titanium's backup path to the microsd, and I have 3 folders: /storage -Red, not writable -sdcard0 -sdcard1- I assume red is a system folder, sdcard0 is the internal storage, and sdcard1 is the mircoSD, however, when I try to select it, it says "this folder cannot be accessed"?? How do I fix this? I have never formatted my mircoSD or anything, just plugged it in when it came in the mail, and it worked.... Got about 50 gigs worth of movies, and my new TWRP backup on it now....
Do clear cache weekly.
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How do I do this?? Would it be in TWRP menu??
TWRP - this is called nandroid backup. It will back up your entire OS with all the apps and cache and setup...everything.
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Thanks for clearing that up! I thought nandroid backups were another type of backup, and the only thing I could find was an Online Nandroid backup app, so, of course I used that.... I guess I can get rid of that now!
you should set Max backup history to 5
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Ok great, max is 5, so if I just use a value of 1, Im golden then! (BTW, honestly, the only apps I care about are what keeps my tablet running butter smooth, so..... Maybe that will change now that I have a tablet I can actually use lol)
Clean install will only wipe INTERNAL memory, not your external SDcard. So it's highly to keep your Titaniumbackup and TWRP backup on your External sdcard. For double protection make a backup of your sdcard to PC.
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What are the chances of the mircoSD corrupting the files or becoming unreadable when I need to get those backups like TWRP / Titanium?? I assume the PC backup file push is the last resort if the above happened?
App to clean up junkfiles - you don't need such app. Most of the stuff you download will be in the /sdcard/download or in the download app folder
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Actually, that folder is empty.... However, I found how to make it explain what was in each "file catagory" so I understand what is where and how big!
For external sdcard, you should keep 1), rom, kernel or any necessary zip files to reinstall your OS.
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ALL of these files (rom,kernel, etc..,) would be found in the CROMI zip file I used on initial install? Would it be best to leave them zipped if so, or to create a folder and unzip and copy paste it in?
Many thanks!!
Last question, WTF is tunny browser??
Proweedsmoker said:
Yes, I was backing up to the internal memory! I have now backed up TWRP onto my microSD card! I was trying to change Titanium's backup path to the microsd, and I have 3 folders: /storage -Red, not writable -sdcard0 -sdcard1- I assume red is a system folder, sdcard0 is the internal storage, and sdcard1 is the mircoSD, however, when I try to select it, it says "this folder cannot be accessed"?? How do I fix this? I have never formatted my mircoSD or anything, just plugged it in when it came in the mail, and it worked.... Got about 50 gigs worth of movies, and my new TWRP backup on it now....
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**** Directory of your external sdcard should be /Removable/microSD.
How do I do this?? Would it be in TWRP menu??
*** You can download a free cache cleaner app from the market
Thanks for clearing that up! I thought nandroid backups were another type of backup, and the only thing I could find was an Online Nandroid backup app, so, of course I used that.... I guess I can get rid of that now!
*** When you do a TWRP backup. This is nandroid backup! so you already using it and didn't know about it lol!
Ok great, max is 5, so if I just use a value of 1, Im golden then! (BTW, honestly, the only apps I care about are what keeps my tablet running butter smooth, so..... Maybe that will change now that I have a tablet I can actually use lol)
*** Yep, 5 is max but anything less is better!
What are the chances of the mircoSD corrupting the files or becoming unreadable when I need to get those backups like TWRP / Titanium?? I assume the PC backup file push is the last resort if the above happened?
*** The chance is very small, but that's why I said a second backup of sdcard to your pc. It easy because it's all in one location (sdcard).
Actually, that folder is empty.... However, I found how to make it explain what was in each "file catagory" so I understand what is where and how big!
ALL of these files (rom,kernel, etc..,) would be found in the CROMI zip file I used on initial install? Would it be best to leave them zipped if so, or to create a folder and unzip and copy paste it in?
*** They should be zipped and move to sdcard.
Last question, WTF is tunny browser??
I believe its a cache directory for Dolphin Browser.
One last question for the night, lol...
As I mentioned, I have never formatted my mircoSD.... Just opened its package (64g Scandisk something or another), plugged it in and its been working just fine ever since, although Xfering files is abit slow :/
Its currently formatted in a "Generic hierarchical" file system..... Being that it will be a life line for my tabby, will TWRP / Titan / etc.., be OK with reading, booting, and w/e else may be required from this type of file system??
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Its currently formatted in a "Generic hierarchical" file system..... Being that it will be a life line for my tabby, will TWRP / Titan / etc.., be OK with reading, booting, and w/e else may be required from this type of file system??
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That's not the real filesystem that the card is formatted with, that's what Windows sees 'through' the connection with the tablet.
Hi,
I need to do a factory reset (to see if it solves a problem that Asus could not solve) and in anyway I read it's safer to wipe data before sending to factory for repair.. So I'd like to make a full backup before this wipe and before the sending to repair..
I installed free Titanium backup (my tablet is rooted), but I'm confused on what I should do before doing the reset and the tutorials I found on Titanium even confused me more..(if you're aware of a nice tutoriel, link would be welcome, because I found none very explicit on xda and even on the web..)
-first, should I use the Asus tool for backup or Titanium ?
- Should I perform a full backup of apps only or apps+system ? I read that system restore could create issues in case restore is not done on same firmware, and I don't know with which FW my tablet will come back from repair.. so should I use apps+system anyway, or make 2 backups (apps first then system or vice versa ?) I'd prefer to restore my tablet as clsoe as it is today, even if possible with bluetooth pairs and wifi connections..
-Should I backup manually my personal files (videos ,various docs, pictures,..) before using Titanium ? (for instance to save space and make nbackups smaller?) If yes, how do we know which folders are backuped up by Titanium and which are not ?
- My sdcard is already largely used with only a few GB left. Can I ask Titanium to save directly to a PC ? Or should I use another sdcard (but then, what will happen to apps installed on sdcard ?) ?
Thanks a lot for your hints.
Ricorico94
There are several different options for you to choose from but I will share the way I usually back up my tablet. I flash different ROMs frequently and have had to use backups quite a bit.
I usually use Titanium Backup to backup everything but only restore non-system apps and data. You're right that restoring system data can result in problems if restoring to different ROMs, not necessarily firmware. It depends on how much the firmware has changed. Since there might be big enough changes that it might screw everything up then I'd avoid restoring system apps and data. If your tablet is backed up to Google, it will sometimes keep the WiFi and Bluetooth pairings and restore them once you log back into your Google account. Not always though. Also I'm not sure that the free version of Titanium Backup can save any place other than an SD card. The paid version can save to Dropbox and Google Drive.
If you're sending your tablet in for repair, you should move all of your personal files to your computer or SD card, deleting them off the tablet. At least, that's what I'd do.
There is one more option which would make saving a lot easier and that is if you have a custom recovery installed like TWRP or CWM you can create a Nandroid Backup of everything, System, Data and all. With all your pictures, etc the file would be huge but you could move that to your computer and restore it when your tablet comes back. That would keep an exact copy of your system and replace whatever ASUS does to it with what you currently have. If I wanted to keep my tablet as close to how I set it up, this is what I would do. Of course, your tablet has to be rooted and unlocked to do so.
wrynn7 said:
There are several different options for you to choose from but I will share the way I usually back up my tablet. I flash different ROMs frequently and have had to use backups quite a bit.
I usually use Titanium Backup to backup everything but only restore non-system apps and data. You're right that restoring system data can result in problems if restoring to different ROMs, not necessarily firmware. It depends on how much the firmware has changed. Since there might be big enough changes that it might screw everything up then I'd avoid restoring system apps and data. If your tablet is backed up to Google, it will sometimes keep the WiFi and Bluetooth pairings and restore them once you log back into your Google account. Not always though. Also I'm not sure that the free version of Titanium Backup can save any place other than an SD card. The paid version can save to Dropbox and Google Drive.
If you're sending your tablet in for repair, you should move all of your personal files to your computer or SD card, deleting them off the tablet. At least, that's what I'd do.
There is one more option which would make saving a lot easier and that is if you have a custom recovery installed like TWRP or CWM you can create a Nandroid Backup of everything, System, Data and all. With all your pictures, etc the file would be huge but you could move that to your computer and restore it when your tablet comes back. That would keep an exact copy of your system and replace whatever ASUS does to it with what you currently have. If I wanted to keep my tablet as close to how I set it up, this is what I would do. Of course, your tablet has to be rooted and unlocked to do so.
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for this advice. Do you know if I can still make 2 separate backups, so that I could use system backup if there's no FW change ?
Regarding the TWRP custom recovery, I understood that since I am already with FW 10.4.4.25 (android 4.1.1) and only rooted, there's no way to install customer recovery. Did I understood properly, or is there a way to downgrade to previous versions first, istall custom and upgrade again back to current FW ?
What do you mean by "tablet backed up to Google" ? I have "save my datas" checked under "backup" menu of parameters, but is there a way to check that there's indeed something in their servers already ?
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Ricorico94
You could make as many backups as you wanted. Titanium Backup allows you to restore whatever you want it to so you really only have to make one backup. You can restore everything but the system apps and data or everything. You can even use it to uninstall or freeze what you're not using (as long as it's not an integral part of the FW of course). It's not an all or nothing deal. I would still move all of your personal data to a computer or SD card so nothing happens to it.
My understanding is that installing CWM or TWRP require your device to be unlocked using an app that is provided through the ASUS website. Just being rooted isn't sufficient. If you don't want to unlock your device then you're stuck with using the Titanium Backup method. Just make sure it is saving your apps to an external SD card and not the internal one.
And yes, I was referring to the setting that you already have checked about Google backing up your data. It doesn't always restore everything though so you might have to pair everything again anyway.
ricorico94 said:
Hi,
Thanks a lot for this advice. Do you know if I can still make 2 separate backups, so that I could use system backup if there's no FW change ?
Regarding the TWRP custom recovery, I understood that since I am already with FW 10.4.4.25 (android 4.1.1) and only rooted, there's no way to install customer recovery. Did I understood properly, or is there a way to downgrade to previous versions first, istall custom and upgrade again back to current FW ?
What do you mean by "tablet backed up to Google" ? I have "save my datas" checked under "backup" menu of parameters, but is there a way to check that there's indeed something in their servers already ?
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I don't think it is a good idea to install a custom recovery if you are about to send the tablet to Asus - I assume for a warranty repair. You would have to unlock your bootloader and that negates your warranty. So just forgettaboutit.
Google backs up some of your data: Calendar and contacts mainly, but also all the apps you have downloaded or bought from the Play Store.
But it is much faster to restore apps with Titanium instead of downloading them from the Play Store.
So backup apps and data in TiBu and move the backup to your PC.
I don't quite understand why you want to backup system data. It's always potentially disruptive to mess with system data yourself. And you are on a pretty old rom and bootloader - so you're due for an update anyway.
Pictures, videos etc, I would just move to an external drive/card or your PC.
When you got everything backed up, do a Factory Reset. That will wipe your data partition.
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Thanks to both of you for your help!
berndblb said:
I don't think it is a good idea to install a custom recovery if you are about to send the tablet to Asus - I assume for a warranty repair. You would have to unlock your bootloader and that negates your warranty. So just forgettaboutit.
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You're right. I was asking this for future, when tablet comes back from repair: at that time, I might want to have a stronger debug/backup using a custom recovery (at least that's what I understood it's very helpful at): I'm soon at warranty end, so I can wait expiration.
It's a good news that the unlock tool of Asus can still be used to allow installation of custom recovery. I'll need to read more on how to do it, etc.
Thanks again !
I'm affected by the Cracked Edges fault with the tablet, and have successfully opened an RMA with NVidia.
I want to be ready to transfer all data over to the new device, but I have a few specific questions that may be better contained in one thread that folks can reference (without having to hunt around XDA)
Question 1 - Apps on SD Card
Like many 16GB tab users, most of the larger apps are on the external memory. I've not owned a device with a "Move to SDCARD" solution baked in before, so my question is:
Can I pop the sdcard out of one tablet and when inserted into the new device, the apps on external storage will sort themselves out and be loaded when the new device boots?
Question 2 - Apps on Local Storage
I'll need to back these up (naturally), but is there a way in TiBu to specify apps on a particular storage target (for example, internal memory or external memory)?
The way I understand it, I'd need to create a backup profile for Games (on external SD) and Apps (on internal SSD) and manage the backups this way.
My thinking is that I'd need to restore the large data apps in a separate restore so I could specify the storage target.
Is that even possible in TiBu?
Otherwise I would run out of room if I tried to flash an update.zip with all the apps back onto the shield's SSD.
Question 3 - TiBu-created update.zip and Stock Recovery
I've stuck with the factory recovery, however I have Towelrooted and use Flashify to do any OTA updates.
If I created an update.zip in TiBu, would I need to also load a custom recovery (CWM) to flash this back to the device? Or would the custom recovery allow me to flash a zip created by TiBu (I've got a feeling I'm outta luck here).
Summary
If the steps I've proposed here sound really cludgy or onerous to any of you, I'd love to get your thoughts about how to restore data with minimal fuss back to the new tablet. Any power tips are welcome, and may help others in the same situation.
Thanks for your help with my question.
jaredmorgs said:
I'm affected by the Cracked Edges fault with the tablet, and have successfully opened an RMA with NVidia.
I want to be ready to transfer all data over to the new device, but I have a few specific questions that may be better contained in one thread that folks can reference (without having to hunt around XDA)
Question 1 - Apps on SD Card
Like many 16GB tab users, most of the larger apps are on the external memory. I've not owned a device with a "Move to SDCARD" solution baked in before, so my question is:
Can I pop the sdcard out of one tablet and when inserted into the new device, the apps on external storage will sort themselves out and be loaded when the new device boots?
Question 2 - Apps on Local Storage
I'll need to back these up (naturally), but is there a way in TiBu to specify apps on a particular storage target (for example, internal memory or external memory)?
The way I understand it, I'd need to create a backup profile for Games (on external SD) and Apps (on internal SSD) and manage the backups this way.
My thinking is that I'd need to restore the large data apps in a separate restore so I could specify the storage target.
Is that even possible in TiBu?
Otherwise I would run out of room if I tried to flash an update.zip with all the apps back onto the shield's SSD.
Question 3 - TiBu-created update.zip and Stock Recovery
I've stuck with the factory recovery, however I have Towelrooted and use Flashify to do any OTA updates.
If I created an update.zip in TiBu, would I need to also load a custom recovery (CWM) to flash this back to the device? Or would the custom recovery allow me to flash a zip created by TiBu (I've got a feeling I'm outta luck here).
Summary
If the steps I've proposed here sound really cludgy or onerous to any of you, I'd love to get your thoughts about how to restore data with minimal fuss back to the new tablet. Any power tips are welcome, and may help others in the same situation.
Thanks for your help with my question.
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I'd assume that if you're fully stock, a simple factory reset would do the trick after running SuperSU's unroot option. Titanium will backup just fine. I'm assuming your backups are on the microSD. When you restore them, you could make the external storage the default installation location when restoring those apps. But it may not be necessary if those apps were programmed to prefer external memory. Won't be too hard to even manually move them over if you don't happen to have many apps like that.