[Q] Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7" 3G (P3100) - UK version - Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

HI,
I recently purchased a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2, the 7" version with 3G (P3100) in the UK, it is unlocked.
At first I intended to continue to use my Orange SIM that allowed 250mb of free use. It soon became apparent that this would not be enough.
So I signed a rolling one month contract with Three, allow all you can eat data for your smart phone. However, 56MB later (day 3) they switched the data off, the message is saying that I have moved my SIM from my mobile phone and put it in a tablet, this is not what it is designed to do.
My trouble is, if I go for the "Broadband" options then I'll not be able to use the voice facility that the phone offers. I have spent about 45 minutes speaking to Three but they cannot offer a solution. As far as they are concerned it is a tablet and the only option is Mobile Broadband with no voice capability.
Any Idea, custom ROM so they cannot detect the Tablet as a Tablet?
Oh, if I put the SIM back into a smartphone then the data connection works again.
Thanks
Kev

Hi
I had the exact same problem. I came from the Galaxy note 2(i needed a bigger screen) and so i put my contact sim card in and had the same problem. I was not happy, so i called them and went straight to the technical team and explained that i needed to use my sim in this device.
My argument was that it had the exact same capabilities as the note and that the note was classed originally as a small tablet.
Whilst i understood that the WiFi version of the tab 2 WAS just a tablet, the 3 G version had gsm radios just like a phone. I escalated the complaint to the senior technical team and put pointed out that the 2 devices were no different and as a paying customer with a Samsung device that was SPECIFICALLY made to be used as a phone, that 3 as a network should lift the restriction on my 3G allowance. Moreover, they then relented AND admitted that they were looking to relax their guidekines on this matter.
I pointed out that every version of Samsung's tablets has a 3G version with full phone capabilities, and that so many people were using these as their sole devices.
I advise you go back to them, go straight to the technical team, argue there case, and ask for it to be escalated if need be. Please feel free to quote my own situation in this matter stating that I'm a customer and they allowed me to use my sim fully in my tab 2
Keep us posted

WoW, this gives me a little hope.
I spent another hour on the phone yesterday, I spoke to a member of the technical team and he seemed very knowledgeable. Even telling me the cheapest option to get full broadband (but no voice). Even went on to say that other providers in the UK did do voice and data that would work in the tab 2.
However, I did pick up one blatant lie, he said that the mobile phone sim would not allow streaming, HTTPS, or +18 websites, ensuring me that these sites just would not load. Well, my tab was loading these, I streamed live TV from a field in the middle of no where lol.
I'm tempted now to write a letter because I'm getting no where on the phone, I'd like to point out some inconsistencies on their website. I.e. their choose the right sim wizard. Unless you have an iPad it guides you to the sim I purchased. Also the pictures, the tablet and smartphone are the same, for broadband it is a picture of a laptop. The reason for going to this length is that they are telling me they can't even swap my contract, I must give 30days notice!
I'll ring them again on Friday, for now I'm back to orange lol.
Thanks for your input,I'll definitely keep you updated as I expect this issue to get worse as more phone / tablets or phablets become available.
Kev

Well done, hope it works out for you
I'm only with 3 on the remainder of my contact ( 9 months) then going to switch to 30 day rolling contract. They give the most data out of all of the networks, even if their customer service is rubbish.
It might be worth persisting with your case, my question to them was how can my tablet be a tablet when it can receive calls, and the very fact i was talking to them on it made them agree with me.
Don't let them lie to you or try and pass any false information onto you. Ask to speak to the senior tech team, as when i spoke to the tech team, they were basically useless and couldn't really answer. I asked for a more senior team and they escalated the case promising I'd here back in 72 hrs which i did.
Stick with it mate, orange data allowance is crummy, and 3 will give in in you persist
Keep me posted

Since tomorrow is the day I'll ring Three again, can you give me a clue as to what they did to get yours working? Was there any setting changes? The last guy I talked to gave me some new settings, they did not work but it was food for thought. I.e. the APN setting etc.
Kev

OK, so the latest call is another 20 minutes long where i keep repeating what the issue is with a nice sounding girl telling me she understands. Although the lack of verbal communication related to the issue from her part clearly told me otherwise. This was clarified when towards the end of the conversation she said, "so you need me to blocked the IMEI from our system?".
My shear frustration at this point lead to her raising a call for her manager to call me back - let's hope they understand lol.
Kev

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OK, so the latest call is another 20 minutes long where i keep repeating what the issue is with a nice sounding girl telling me she understands. Although the lack of verbal communication related to the issue from her part clearly told me otherwise. This was clarified when towards the end of the conversation she said, "so you need me to blocked the IMEI from our system?".
My shear frustration at this point lead to her raising a call for her manager to call me back - let's hope they understand lol.
Kev
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The offers with 3 are great.... the staff..... ( am allowed to swear in these forums?? lol), let's just say that if they were turkeys, their days would be numbered!!
Stick with out, use the term"I wish to escalate the case to the senior technical team".. they WILL get it!
Keep me posted

pglandscapes said:
The offers with 3 are great.... the staff..... ( am allowed to swear in these forums?? lol), let's just say that if they were turkeys, their days would be numbered!!
Stick with out, use the term"I wish to escalate the case to the senior technical team".. they WILL get it!
Keep me posted
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Well, I don't give up easily but this has beat me. There seems no way of getting round this with Three. The mobile team want to put you through to broadband team saying its clearly a tablet, the broadband team just put you back through to the mobile team as they don't support voice devices. Even the senior team leaders wont have it, they just keep saying you've clearly been told you can't use this device on our mobile network.
I'm not sure how you (pglandscapes) got this resolved but I'd keep quiet and not change anything about your plan. For anyone else thinking this is an option clearly is it not, trust me I have now tried everything and then some, in fact they are now getting angry at me for keep ringing them LOL.
To recap, I was trying to use a Three Mobile Phone SIM in a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7" 3G version so I could continue to use the full voice capabilities of the device, very quickly Three blocked the data use to this device although placing the SIM back in a smartphone made it work again.
I'm back with orange, canary 10 (SIM only) , 1 month plan which seems to work fine.
I hate to say it but I may try the Three Broadband 10GB monthly version, I'm told I'll loose voice features of the phone but I'm just curious now. Wont I look a fool though if that works perfectly LOL.
Kev

Maybe Virgin
Well, the latest update is Virgin say that support the Samsung P3100 better known as the Galaxy Tab 2 7" with 3G (via online chat and validated by the settings you can download from their website).
I ordered the SIM and its 90 pence cheaper per month on all you can eat.
Does anyone know if Virgin is really just Three? Just worried that they will be the same :crying:
Kev

Truly baffled!
To be honest, one of my conversations lasted over 1.5 hours!!
I simply stated originally that my data allowance had been blocked and i wished to speak to someone in a senior position.
My hook was i was paying for the top tariff and that 3 weren't fulfilling their part of the contact as a supplier by limiting my data allowance in a device that had complete gsm capabilities. I specifically asked them to define the difference between the galaxy note 2 and the galaxy tab 2.
Their reply was that one was a tablet and one was a phone.
I questioned how this could be defined to which they answered on one device i could make calls and send text messages and in the other i couldn't.
When i pointed out that both devices had EXACTLY the same functionality they were stumped!
I then asked them to differentiate between the iPhone at 3.5 inches, and the galaxy note at 5.5 inches, a whole 2 inches bigger!
They're reply was that they were both classed as phones and that one simply had a larger screen. I pointed out that the Dell streak was released as a tablet and that was 5 inches, and yet had full phone capabilities.... they then went quiet!
I then pointed out that a pure tablet such as the nexus 7 or the iPad, even the 3g versions don't have gsm radios, thus making them tablets. However, the ones with gsm radios can be classed as large phones, and that the factor of the larger screen cannot be used as a defining factor if said device has full gsm functionality!
They conceded the point and even said they were" looking to change their legislation on this matter as the lines were becoming finer all the time regarding such devices!"
THAT is how i got it. In truly sorry it hasn't worked for you

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...let's just say that if they were turkeys, their days would be numbered!!...
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To be fair, this applies to us all doesn't it? If I were a turkey I know I wouldn't be making many plans for the future...
Have you looked at GiffGaff? They have a £12 Goodybag (effectively a monthly rolling contract - you choose whether to buy another goodybag each month). This provides unlimited data plus unlimited texts and SMS.
Does it work in a tablet? Check out this thread in their forums. This seems to confirm that:
if a device can make and receive calls and texts out of the box without modification then it is classed as a phone and can be used with goodybags
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Best you check with them to confirm, but it looks like you might be okay with the P3100.

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To be fair, this applies to us all doesn't it? If I were a turkey I know I wouldn't be making many plans for the future...
Have you looked at GiffGaff? They have a £12 Goodybag (effectively a monthly rolling contract - you choose whether to buy another goodybag each month). This provides unlimited data plus unlimited texts and SMS.
Does it work in a tablet? Check out this thread in their forums. This seems to confirm that:
Best you check with them to confirm, but it looks like you might be okay with the P3100.
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Cheers buddy, I had spotted this as an option, and if it does not workout with Virgin I will OK at this next.
I actually took online help with virgin and copied the convo of them saying they fully supported the p3100 so if this does not work out it should be easier to get out of the contract. Lol
I've cancelled the Three contract today, they seemed amazed that my Orange SIM worked OK in it. I get the impression they don't really believe what I,m saying. Probably think I'm trying to scam them and really want to use there all you can eat in an iPad.
Oh well.
Kev

Taking a closer look at giffgaff it would appear this could be a very good solution if it does not workout for me with Virgin. I actually like how open their service seems to be, taking a look at this link shows that the usage can be fair and reasonable. Frankly, if someone is using more than 3gb a day then they deserve to be kicked off because they ruin the service for others.
http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Learn-giffgaff-Top-Tips/Unlimited-Mobile-Internet-with-a-goodybag/ta-p/5577838
There are a few people that have had issues on giffgaff with similar phones, one person was reporting being blocked and stated they had yet to use 1 gig in the 3 weeks they had been connected, so that's a bit worrying. It looks like the end result was they terminated their account. But who knows, maybe they were abusing the system as there are not many reports like that and many others from people with similar devices reporting no issues.
Looking at my stats so far, i'd be amazed if I used more than a gig a month once I'd got the new device excitement out the way lol.
I'll keep this thread updated with how I get on.
Update: Sent email to giffgaff to see if they will indeed support this device as a large smartphone.
Kev

bionicbone99 said:
Taking a closer look at giffgaff it would appear this could be a very good solution if it does not workout for me with Virgin. I actually like how open their service seems to be, taking a look at this link shows that the usage can be fair and reasonable. Frankly, if someone is using more than 3gb a day then they deserve to be kicked off because they ruin the service for others.
http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Learn-giffgaff-Top-Tips/Unlimited-Mobile-Internet-with-a-goodybag/ta-p/5577838
There are a few people that have had issues on giffgaff with similar phones, one person was reporting being blocked and stated they had yet to use 1 gig in the 3 weeks they had been connected, so that's a bit worrying. It looks like the end result was they terminated their account. But who knows, maybe they were abusing the system as there are not many reports like that and many others from people with similar devices reporting no issues.
Looking at my stats so far, i'd be amazed if I used more than a gig a month once I'd got the new device excitement out the way lol.
I'll keep this thread updated with how I get on.
I wish you the best of luck and hope this works out for you dude!
Update: Sent email to giffgaff to see if they will indeed support this device as a large smartphone.
Kev
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I wish you the best of luck and hope this works out for you dude!

OK - Here's the latest.
On the 24th Dec I applied for a Virgin SIM (T-Mobile / EE backbone)
On the 25th Dec I applied for a GiffGaff SIM (O2 backbone).
I also sent an email to GiffGaff asking them to confirm they would support the device on their £12 goodybag (250 mins, unltd txt, unltd mobile data).
Both companies said they would send an email when the SIM had been dispatched - I love a good response test
27th, GiffGaff confirm by email that they have no issues with the device as long as I dont exceed there fair usage policy (1GB per hour / 3GB per day) along with some other fair usage which they did not actually stipulate but I expect this is P2P (torrents) etc.
27th, GiffGaff dispatch the SIM
29th, Giff Gaff SIM arrives and I credit it with the £12 goodybag, 5 minutes later the account is activated and I'm rock and rolling
30th Dec, time for some GiffGaff tests (for easy I'll add as a picture)
Conclusion, assuming GiffGaff don't cut me off for steaming and there is no reason to suggest they will based on my tests then I'm happy. The tests show I could watch TV for about 6 hours per day (even at maximum wifi type speeds which I doubt I would ever get over GiffGaff), at the maximum GiffGaff rate recorded of 180MB per Hour I could get 16 hours of Live TV before I need worry. I think if someone needs more than this they need a better life not a better service provider
Oh - Not heard anything from Virgin at all LOL.
Kev

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OK - Here's the latest.
On the 24th Dec I applied for a Virgin SIM (T-Mobile / EE backbone)
On the 25th Dec I applied for a GiffGaff SIM (O2 backbone).
I also sent an email to GiffGaff asking them to confirm they would support the device on their £12 goodybag (250 mins, unltd txt, unltd mobile data).
Both companies said they would send an email when the SIM had been dispatched - I love a good response test
27th, GiffGaff confirm by email that they have no issues with the device as long as I dont exceed there fair usage policy (1GB per hour / 3GB per day) along with some other fair usage which they did not actually stipulate but I expect this is P2P (torrents) etc.
27th, GiffGaff dispatch the SIM
29th, Giff Gaff SIM arrives and I credit it with the £12 goodybag, 5 minutes later the account is activated and I'm rock and rolling
30th Dec, time for some GiffGaff tests (for easy I'll add as a picture)
Conclusion, assuming GiffGaff don't cut me off for steaming and there is no reason to suggest they will based on my tests then I'm happy. The tests show I could watch TV for about 6 hours per day (even at maximum wifi type speeds which I doubt I would ever get over GiffGaff), at the maximum GiffGaff rate recorded of 180MB per Hour I could get 16 hours of Live TV before I need worry. I think if someone needs more than this they need a better life not a better service provider
Oh - Not heard anything from Virgin at all LOL.
Kev
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Well done mate, really pleased it's worked or for you!

I just thought I'd add one final update to this thread before marking it as solved.
I put a very comprehensive letter together and sent registered post to Three. I pointed out some inconsistencies on their website and at point of sale.
They called me and said they had reviewed my device and see that it is a little confusing from a customers point of view and that they don't actually have a package that is dedicated to the phone & tablet "phablet" market. They will look to address these issues very soon, and if you read this they may already have done so.
As a result they have waved all charges and although I will receive a final invoice they will waver this too. They did say that I could continue to use the phone service until it was ceased and I would not be charged.
The Virgin SIM eventually arrived yesterday, but as I am now non GiffGaff I shall not be activation that.
GiffGaff, I guess much of this is personal choice and depends on the service levels in the areas you visit. I will say this though, I'm very happy. GiffGaff using the O2 network has a great signal, as they have both 2G and 3G it works well indoors too (for those places where there is no free WiFi).
I sit here with a full signal capable of stream TV from my arm chair. Not that I would, obviously I'd use WiFi, but capable none the less.
Got there in the end.
Kev

bionicbone99 said:
I just thought I'd add one final update to this thread before marking it as solved.
I put a very comprehensive letter together and sent registered post to Three. I pointed out some inconsistencies on their website and at point of sale.
They called me and said they had reviewed my device and see that it is a little confusing from a customers point of view and that they don't actually have a package that is dedicated to the phone & tablet "phablet" market. They will look to address these issues very soon, and if you read this they may already have done so.
As a result they have waved all charges and although I will receive a final invoice they will waver this too. They did say that I could continue to use the phone service until it was ceased and I would not be charged.
The Virgin SIM eventually arrived yesterday, but as I am now non GiffGaff I shall not be activation that.
GiffGaff, I guess much of this is personal choice and depends on the service levels in the areas you visit. I will say this though, I'm very happy. GiffGaff using the O2 network has a great signal, as they have both 2G and 3G it works well indoors too (for those places where there is no free WiFi).
I sit here with a full signal capable of stream TV from my arm chair. Not that I would, obviously I'd use WiFi, but capable none the less.
Got there in the end.
Kev
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A very big Pat on the back for sticking with it mate. Well done indeed for persevering with this.
Good luck with gifgaf and happy new year!.
As a side note, I've just installed cm10 on my p3100.... loving it!
Highly recommended

My first daft question of the year lol
I think CM10 is a 3rd party ROM, but why would people choose it over Android? What are the deciding factors for you?

bionicbone99 said:
My first daft question of the year lol
I think CM10 is a 3rd party ROM, but why would people choose it over Android? What are the deciding factors for you?
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For me I wanted the closest vanilla aosp experience I could get, and this for me is it.
I love the nexus 7, but I need both camera and phone, so this is the only tablet I know that has them.
Running Samsung's version of jelly beam 4.1.1 was great but, it was filled with so much bloat ware that with just a few processes running, it still lagged a little.
I looked at cm10.1 and thought" wow, stock jelly bean", so I took the plunge.
Interestingly enough running the touchwiz, my tab would regularly have around 45 processes running in the background. With this it has around 24!!
So much slicker and smoother.
I also wanted all the cool jelly beam stuff like the camera with the editing, daydream, the notifications shades, basically everything that made it as stock as possible.
I didn't want to run 3rd party launchers and tons of different apps, I wanted my OS to be this good!
Anyway, those were my deciding factors, other people may have different ones.
Hope this helps

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Cdma boost mobile unlimited thread

[][][]DISCLAIMER - ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIGURE WHAT IF ANY LEGAL IMPLICATIONS ANY OF THIS MAY HAVE IN YOUR AREA, THREAD IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY!![][][]
Well there's a lot of conflicting information, this first post is reserved for the ultimate list or so, forgive the future constant editing. And, though i make a bare, rudimentary effort, irc rules for punctuation apply - only when really needed
Here's the scenario:
a. sprint branded touch pro 2
b. friend who owns boost auth. [and others] cell store
c. goal - boost cdma
d. never been activated!
problems i've run into so far:
at least with the initial activation you cannot choose ANY of the 3 cdma phones boost sells [sold?]. Wonder why? Well your in luck i've spent about 14 hrs on the phone with sprint and boost so far, and have a few answers. Reps for either Co. feel free to comment.
a. of the phones they offer for the cdma or offered as the case may be, the primary obstacle is that the meid [dec] does not fall in the same //family// as theirs. Currently they are looking for a 268..... [there's another one i don't have in front of me offhand, will edit this later with that].
b. Second point of contention: When investigating the process that cells are 'authorized' for use on a carrier it seems to fall down to talking to someone who is both willing and able to add a given phone's id to inventory.
1. so if your wondering why metropcs is so easy, but boost is so hard:
A. the software houdini - that's the authorized dealer's access portal to the metropcs inventory. That is why its the only 'legal' way to get a [good/bad/non-metropcs] imei/esn/dec/{whatever they wanna call it this week} into the system.
B. Once its in inventory, the phone must also at least have the correct PRL - Preferred Roaming List. After that's where custom roms come in
[ anyone feel free to correct me i've no personal pride tied up here ]
2. so essentially what we're looking for is a boost agent who is capable of inputting this legit clean never-been-used dec.
a. Tried using the phone models they do offer, with my real dec - no go. Two models are having 11digit dec, the other one has 15 digits.
So no offense to those who have said they had existing service, but added a phone, here i have to call BS. Again in MY experience, over 4 hours calling in to many many MANY different reps - i could not even activate the phone - ONTO THE BOOST UNLIMITED CDMA PLAN - to an active account with over a half dozen lines.
[ for the curious, the shop owner was using his acct for that step, as if we can ever figure this out, we plan to offer it out, as long as its a legit process, etc. ]
Now here's the kicker - the phone cannot be added to even an existing Boost Unlimited CDMA account ONLY because of several re-cyclical reasons [those they use to justify each other and when all are heard end up in some sort of circular logic pattern]
What i've heard so far [again feel free to add in here]:
1. amount of digits in imei cannot work
2. i am not capable
3. only second level tech can do inventory adds
4. there is only one level of tech support at boost and we do not know how to do it
5. we cannot activate it since we don't know the phone model
6. you cannot put sprint on boost no matter what
7. that phone is incompatible
Keep in mind, i'm about a half step from an FCC filing, as they can certainly deny custom service for no reason, however in telecommunications the company is legally responsible for what their operators say. If you can prove they offered you XXXXX and there's a recording, a long drawn out investigation CAN reveal these facts, and remember mediation is your only option unless you can PROVE they are violating the contract, which is the thing requiring mediation. [the FCC can check if they are in violation, but this is a lot of work and time to get started, and even worse getting finished lol.]
so with the blustering anger out of the way lets review the boost excuses:
1. - possible.. i can see a software/database check to ensure against, well i'm sure fraud is usually the reason given for this type of policy, it makes sense - just frustrating.
2. lies.
3. need rep confirmation
4. need rep confirmation
5. lies.
6. lies.
7. LIEZ!
so for compatibility lets review the sprint branded touch pro 2:
cdma - check
gsm - check
edge - check
evdeo - check
iden - check
hsdpa - NOPE
fm radio - DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT
[Ive not tried my hand yet, get to that next week... shoot i don't even listen to the radio, i just hate being locked out of anything that my device is capable of, JUST IN CASE ]
So in conclusion, I think [so far]:
a. they can
b. they don't wanna
c. sometimes someone's probably frustrated with job and does anyway
d. wondering if it matters where you say your from [I'm in calli - its on the cdma list]
[][][]Lets try not to flame them [boost/sprint], this makes marketing sense for a number of reasons for them to do this, I, and many of you, it seems just do not want to pay more than needed just to use a cool phone.[][][]
Hate to bump like this, but 120 views and no opinions?? oi!
I LOVE this type of tinkering, this is what the guys at 2600 love to find answers for.
Another reason SIM cards are superior, as there is no jumping through hoops to add a phone to the system.
I dont have a solution, however you have more access than most to the network with your buddy a BOOST store owner. There is a very low probability you will be able to add this phone for the pure reason you stated of adding a new phone not being currently sold to the BOOST network.
One thing, is it possible to get a phone activated on the Boost network, then clone the ESN from the working phone to the TP2, I know people can change the CID # so might be able to change the ESN, only way I can think of without a level 2 insider.
GL
Force
forcelite said:
I LOVE this type of tinkering, this is what the guys at 2600 love to find answers for.
Another reason SIM cards are superior, as there is no jumping through hoops to add a phone to the system.
I dont have a solution, however you have more access than most to the network with your buddy a BOOST store owner. There is a very low probability you will be able to add this phone for the pure reason you stated of adding a new phone not being currently sold to the BOOST network.
One thing, is it possible to get a phone activated on the Boost network, then clone the ESN from the working phone to the TP2, I know people can change the CID # so might be able to change the ESN, only way I can think of without a level 2 insider.
GL
Force
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see the thing is, i'm pretty sure i can change the esn, but i'm not sure of the implications - even if i was doing it legit. And if i did, the guy's gonna want me to do it to dozens of others so i'd have to consult legal eagle before going that route. cloning a working phone is definately a felony. Cloning a phone you own and that is non-functional - mmmmmmm - who knows.
i got a sprint tp2 on boost cdma and i got proof
I as well have a Sprint Touch Pro 2 on Boost Mobile unlimited. It was pretty easy too but there's a website that I won't mention (Not sure about the rules) that does this stuff.
I personally already had the iDen account for a year or so and in a case where you're already on the iDen network, you can just call and tell them you want to switch to the CDMA service and give them the numbers off the phone. Obviously some reps will do it and some won't but I believe if you're nice and patient it can easily be done.
If you are going to just start a CDMA account, you need a boost branded phone to start the account and then later call back and switch in your other phone.
But, for whatever reason, a small number of TP2's cannot be activated on Boost. From reading people have tried figuring out if it has something to do with the numbers or what but no one has come up with anything.
I am happy to be one of those ppl to have my tp2 activated on boost. It is also one of those hard to activate numbers they talk about. Had a little problem getting it programmed to work, but now everything works. I had to make several calls to customer service not by regular means. google boost mobile customer service for a different number and dial 88 at the prompt. Takes you to a live agent no wait time at all. Still took 3 trys but finally a nice rep walked me through the process and stated several times they could not be held responsible if it did not work. Thanks everyone for your help.
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I am happy to be one of those ppl to have my tp2 activated on boost. It is also one of those hard to activate numbers they talk about. Had a little problem getting it programmed to work, but now everything works. I had to make several calls to customer service not by regular means. google boost mobile customer service for a different number and dial 88 at the prompt. Takes you to a live agent no wait time at all. Still took 3 trys but finally a nice rep walked me through the process and stated several times they could not be held responsible if it did not work. Thanks everyone for your help.
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That's basically how I was also able to get a Sprint CDMA Blackberry on the boost mobile network almost a year ago now. I just kept calling until i spoke to someone who actually knew what they were doing and was generally actually a nice person and they did it for me on the phone. They can do it if they want to. They would probably give it more consideration if you already have a data plan with another network and tell them you want to make the switch. That's what I'm planning on doing tomorrow. Personally I believe a cell phone bill should be in the range of $20. You have to consider that the signals are in the air whether you use them or not, so they might as well take your $20 just have to navigate past the BS as with anything. I'm pissed at my new TP2 service on T-mobile now because they told me the 15$ no contract unlimited text and 10cents a minute talk came with 2gb of data and now I am finding out that was a lie. I probably should have checked better but hey I was in a rush and they are throwing commercials out on TV for another contract plan that has web access for 10$ and that threw me off a little into thinking they were a decent company so I'm pissed. Pretty sure I can get my money back if they don't give me what I want, but otherwise I'm going to boost or virgin mobile one way or the other.

OK, so it looks like o2 UK's 'unlimited' internet is now officially around 1GB/month

Afternoon xda
I've just received the "We've stopped you using the internet on your mobile because you've gone over your data allowance. You can start using it again after your next bill date" SMS from o2.
I'm on a 12 month SIM only contract (Simplicity) that includes 800mins, 1600texts and the 'unlimited' web bolt on.
This is a new contract and I was on a similar one last year. Last year my usage varied a lot, particularly when I had no home broadband for a while when moving addresses and used up several gigs before getting a warning (via sms and snailmail).
This time, however, this is the first time I've received a message on this contract and I wasn't even warned before hand. I've just been looking through my used bytes in my o2 account and it looks like it adds up to just over 1GB. Yesterday I used tethering to stream BBC iPlayer on a laptop which used up a couple of hundred megs which pushed it over the edge, it would seem.
I'm using a HTC HD2 which is obviously very data orientated with constant updates, messengers running, etc.
So a warning to everyone on o2 in the UK - it looks like things have changed and we now get 1GB and then our data connections CUT OFF until our bill month rolls over, with no prior warning. I'm now without mobile broadband for almost a week.
UPDATE
I called o2 not holding up much hope.
The call went something like this:
Me: "Good afternoon, I'm calling because I received a text from o2 in regards to going over my data allowance. I use my sim in an HTC HD2 and I don't think I've used any more data than I have in previous months.
Her: "Ok Sir, I see you have unlimited internet on your account so I'll lift the bar for you"
Me: "For reals?"
Her: "Yes Sir, it may take up to 24 hours to be removed."
So no messing about there! Though I'm impressed with o2's customer services I'm still amazed this was dealt with so quickly. People with unlimited net who think they've had their data unfairly cut off - call up o2 and talk to them, fantastic service!
Never having a problem with O2's customer services is one of the main reasons why I stick with them.
I had problems with my bank screwing up direct debits, so I'd miss the payment date for my bill and have a bar put in place.
A quick phone call and paying by debit card would get it sorted, but once they had a problem where the unbar didn't go through.
So I called up the next day and joked with the woman, got the bar removed and £15 credit as an appology.
Their broadband customer/tech service is excellent too.
1Mbps upstream for £5
I had the exact same problem, gave o2 a bell and they lifted the bar for me. Conversation went much the same as above
You must be luck, I ordered the sim card from the advert on TV £15pm and unlimited internet.
I checked my ballance and it was 500Mb, I used 1Mb and checked the next day (thinking it may be 500Mb/day) and it was 499Mb
I called O2 and complained and the lady said "well we cant give you unlimited can we..." and after a lot of complaining I got my money back.
I was getting 750Mb per month on Virgin for less
You guys are lucky with O2. Look at what Vodafone UK is running away with.
Sneakily changing our contracts from "unlimited with a soft cap of 500MB" to hard capped at 500MB. According to the new (much disputed) tariff, anything over 500MB will be charged an extra £5 for next 500MB.
This is being discussed in a lot of detail on Vodafone UK eforums and MoneySavingExpert forums (link).
If you are not using Vodafone yourself, please let everyone know about this, so these mobile providers stop getting away with murder now!
I have started a new thread on XDA-Dev here for discussing it.
Hoping that these take their tarrifs back and see some sense!

[Q]GS4G into it's own WiFi hotSpot - w/o paying ...

Hi,
I've been looking through GS4G threads and haven't seen any posts on the GS4G threads about this. I'm pretty disappointed with this phone, but I have a lot of confidence that with the mods that can come out it'll be a good investment. I originally was informed that the phone can be rooted and rommed to make it its own wifi without needing to pay for internet access through the carriers and that's why I bought it. (I think it was by using Busybox? I don't remember) - but has anyone done this and is it really possible to do this? So many sales points made by the TM guys have proven to be wrong, I am now questioning this point also.
My phone was unlocked by a local service for $30 after 3 minutes work. I now have Simple Mobile and I'm happier than I was with TM. It does still seem that everything has to be routed through Goog, nearly every function must pass through the cloud and that's why so much data use is sucked up so quickly and my experience so far is that the Android platform is either surprisingly unstable or so far advanced that a simple mind such my own cannot quite grasp it's nuances...yet.
But I digress - can this phone be made into it's own internet AP without having to pay TM, ATT, etc?
All helpful comments welcomed and acknowleged.
Cheers,
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I search a wiget hotspot on market n work very good for wifi tether
Sent from my SGH-T959V using XDA App
built in wifi
The Mobile AP works without being charged.
Hmm...
So are you saying that you want to be able to use data service on your phone without paying for the data service...or are you saying that you have data service and want to tether or use your phone as a hotspot to use your data plan on another device without paying the AP fee?
If it's the former...I really don't think that that is possible...because everyone would be doing it. The data part of my family plan is something like 60 bucks...I'd love to be saving that every month. The fact is, none of the carriers would allow that. The data is tracked and I can't imagine it would be possible to sneak it under their radars without getting a nasty letter.
If it's the latter, yes. Root your phone (In most cases) and download a free tethering or wifi app (I use EasyTether, but there are several out there). Follow instructions. Easy Peasy. Tethering and/or Mobile AP without paying the $15 or whatever fee. But (And someone correct me if I'm wrong here) I do not think that you can use tethering or mobile AP without having a paid for data service from a carrier. Sorry.
There are also people saying that if you use the built in tethering/mobile AP ability on your device without having paid for the service through T-mo, that as long as use it lightly, T-mo will ignore it. I have heard accounts of people using it too much and getting an email from T-mo basically saying "Hey quit that...pay for it, you greedy bastard" (Paraphrased).
Also...What exactly is your disappointment with this device? If you let us know exactly what your issues with it are...there is a chance that we can give you advice or a workaround to get the most of your device...that's what we're for. At very least we can point you to a thread that already exists to help you out.
Pretty simple... the mobile ap included within the phone works fine.... use it as an AP as much as you like.. tmobile's fine with it cuz they know as soon as you hit the 5gb thresh your gonna be throttled down. Doesn't matter if you root and download 3rd party AP software cuz as soon as you hit the 5gb your all done.
In my opinion I think this is totally fine for TMOBile to do.. although I wish they were clear about the 5gb cap when you sign the 2year agreement. I had Sprint 4g before this and Att before that and this is the first internet connection I would drop my home internet for.... of course if it had true unlimited bandwidth. At work and at home I get a steady 7+mbps down and 1.5mpbs up with a 65 to 100 ping... when I'm using it at home it hardly seems noticeably slower or less snappy than my 20mbps comcast connection.
I think ultimately if they are going to throttle they should raise the limitation to about 15gb or so and be very upfront to the customer when they sign... That would take away about 99 percent of the complaints they get and give us some headroom.. also would still guarantee no one's gonna be running their website or downloading 100's of gigs of torrents over a cell tower..
All carriers throttle...no carriers have "true" unlimited data. T-Mo is pretty upfront about the throttling. I mean...it's there...in black in white. I knew about it when I signed up for my service. There's no reason that anyone doing any form of research before just jumping into a two-year contract would not be able to find that information as well.
Also...the reason they throttle is to keep users from using it as their home internet. That's not what it is intended for and if everyone was doing that...it would prolly have cataclysmic effects on the network (Again...correct me if I'm wrong here).
I have a hard time believing that your mobile connection is faster than your home cable internet...But I can't prove my suspicion...so that aside, the 5gb limit is way more than enough if you are using your mobile internet for just browsing and downloading apps or streaming media. I would consider myself I pretty hard-core mobile internet user and I have never hit 5gb in a month...that being said...I'm also not trying to use it as my home internet. I don't use it to download torrents or stream entire movies or play online games. Besides...T-mo only throttles your bandwidth after hitting 5gb...at least they don't shut you down like other carriers.
The fact is...there is no Unlimited mobile data...but as far as it goes...T-Mo has the best plan out there. Great coverage, 4g, 5gb limit and only then they throttle you back a bit.
Sigh...I should be working in the mobile technology business...instead I'm working a mind-numbing production job for **** pay. Not applicable to the thread...but I really felt like pining.
wmikemoon said:
All carriers throttle...no carriers have "true" unlimited data. T-Mo is pretty upfront about the throttling. I mean...it's there...in black in white. I knew about it when I signed up for my service. There's no reason that anyone doing any form of research before just jumping into a two-year contract would not be able to find that information as well.
Also...the reason they throttle is to keep users from using it as their home internet. That's not what it is intended for and if everyone was doing that...it would prolly have cataclysmic effects on the network (Again...correct me if I'm wrong here).
I have a hard time believing that your mobile connection is faster than your home cable internet...But I can't prove my suspicion...so that aside, the 5gb limit is way more than enough if you are using your mobile internet for just browsing and downloading apps or streaming media. I would consider myself I pretty hard-core mobile internet user and I have never hit 5gb in a month...that being said...I'm also not trying to use it as my home internet. I don't use it to download torrents or stream entire movies or play online games. Besides...T-mo only throttles your bandwidth after hitting 5gb...at least they don't shut you down like other carriers.
The fact is...there is no Unlimited mobile data...but as far as it goes...T-Mo has the best plan out there. Great coverage, 4g, 5gb limit and only then they throttle you back a bit.
Sigh...I should be working in the mobile technology business...instead I'm working a mind-numbing production job for **** pay. Not applicable to the thread...but I really felt like pining.
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A lot of what you say is true but, I was not told about the throttling when I got my UNLIMITED DATA plan. I came from a company that had truly UNLIMITED DATA. I was with them since 2006 and never once had a letter about my data use nor was I EVER throttled. I had excellent Download speeds and could easily use streaming media. That company was Alltel. It is the BEST cell phone service I have ever had. Unfortunately, they sold out in my area first to Verizon in Maricopa county then AT&T in Pinal county Arizona. This is a great loss. With TMO I get 2G Edge speed at best unless I drive 40 miles into town. On my laptop it takes 3 to 5 minutes to load my gmail account. Where I am at I can get satellite or cell service only for internet. I am a truck driver so it doesn’t pay to get satellite because I am not home enough to use it. At best I get 16 t0 20KB/SEC down. I reached my 5GB limit this weekend and am being throttled for the next week or so. I talked to customer service and explained my situation to a supervisor and her comment was “It looks like we are throttling all the time and now throttling you even more. When I talk to the rep at the TMO store a week or so ago about the throttling he failed to tell me about he admitted that TMO would slow my service from 4G down to 2G. What TMO has done to me was slow me down to 1G. Right now it takes 3 to 4 minutes’ to download 1MB. I had faster download speeds with NETZERO dialup for $8.00 a month back in the 90’s. I was miss-lead by TMO both in their advertising and thru representation. I can’t say I blame my rep so much because I’m sure they are trained to only give you enough information to make the sale, which means they are trained to withhold the TRUTH or at least not disclose the meaning on “UNLIMITED” unless you pry it out of them. Truthfully, I like the people at my TMO store. They are very helpful. It’s just they are bound by the corporate Greed that makes their paycheck. I will likely not be with TMO much longer. I like my phone but the service sucks.
It works just fine.
Don't abuse it, use it only when needed and you will be fine. Otherwise, they will "recommend" you to add the whatever-is-called-tethering add on.
In fact, everyone: Don't abuse it and they will probably leave it as it is... Until the att takeover takes place (ouch)
fosormic said:
It works just fine.
Don't abuse it, use it only when needed and you will be fine. Otherwise, they will "recommend" you to add the whatever-is-called-tethering add on.
In fact, everyone: Don't abuse it and they will probably leave it as it is... Until the att takeover takes place (ouch)
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With that attitude you will conform to whatever these corporations want to shove down our throats. Every day corporations are charging us more and more and giving us less and less. Then they buy up the few companies left that are giving us value for our money. Soon we will back to one choice like back in the Ma Bell days and you will be standing right up front saluting the Beast.
Like I said...All carriers throttle. I'm glad that a company that is not around anymore didn't throttle...but that was also before mobile data really took off. I'm pretty sure what happened is people started using mobile data for their home internet and started clogging the tubes (or you know...airwaves or whatever) and the major carriers did what they had to do...which means throttling. If they didn't throttle...people would be using mobile data for their home use and making it so people, like myself who pay for cable internet but like to browse or whatever on the go, would suffer...which isn't fair considering me and people like me are using (and paying for) the mobile data for what it is intended for.
In your last post you berated a fellow poster for saying to use the tethering but not to abuse it. You basically said that his attitude was that of a conformer to major corporations...This boggles my mind. Really and truly...T-mo wants you to pay for the tethering and if you use it without paying for it...you are rebelling to corporate standards...so your comment makes no sense.
The fact that T-mo takes the stance that they do on the tethering without paying for tethering thing earns my respect. They're basically saying "You know what...we ****ed up and made it so you can use the tethering option without paying for it...just don't be a **** and we'll look the other way."
Also, If you root and or mod your phone in any way...and something happens and you have to send your phone in to T-mo...they tend to look the other way. Can Verizon or Att say that? Hell no...Att is trying to make it so their phones CAN'T be rooted or modded in anyway. Ask an Atrix user.
Sounds like to me you are just whining because T-mo didn't tell you about the throttling. Again, I stand by my earlier statement...Do your research before jumping into a Two-Year contract. It's there...everything is...you just have to READ it. That goes for ANYTHING that you sign a contract for. When you buy a new car...do you just skip everything the contract says and sign it? Of course not. You read that **** because you don't wanna be screwed. Companies exist to make money off of you...plain and simple...so if they make you sign a contract...you best do your research to know exactly what they are offering...and if you don't....I have absolutely no sympathy for you what-so-ever. It's you with the egg on your face...just because you didn't take the time to read.
I agree with tmobile on Throttling to a degree.. and I understand the reasoning BUT.. I still believe their advertising and plans are a bit misleading... For example I went to a tmobile store here in Eugene.. talked about plans and speeds with a tmo rep and was told nothing about the limits. Also I bought my galaxy 4g at Radio Shack and also was told nothing about it.. I looked on TMO's website and found in their agreement this>>>>>>> "Your data session, plan, or service may be slowed, suspended, terminated, or restricted if you use your service in a way that interferes with or impacts our network or ability to provide quality service to other users"
That is pretty vague when in reality there is a solid 5gb max.. whether it's on your 1st day of service or 2nd to last day...
I knew about the limits before only because of these message forums... but even after reading the fine print i wouldn't have known for sure
Protective Measures: To provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth. If your total usage exceeds 5GB (amount is subject to change without notice; please check T-Mobile’s T&Cs on www.T-Mobile.com for updates) during a billing cycle, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle. If you use your Data Plan in a manner that could interfere with other customers’ service, affect our ability to allocate network capacity among customers, or degrade service quality for other customers, we may suspend, terminate, or restrict your data session, or switch you to a more appropriate Data Plan.
Copied from the Terms and Conditions which has a link on literally every single page on T-Mo's website and is clearly marked in the section titled "Data Plans and Other Features".
Alternatively, on Verizon's site...You can only get to the details about their data package after adding a voice plan and phone to your cart...at which point it gives a vague description of their throttling rules that do not mention exact amounts. It just says that it can throttle your speed whenever it feels like.
So again...not seeing a problem here...
Using GS4G as hot spot
Thanks for all your replies. It took me a while to find where the thread went.
Yes, I did mean turning the phone into it's own router/internet AP without tethering. My BB used Tether and it was great and that of course used my data plan from SPrint. No problem with that - I'm a very light user. But Android is different - just about every app uses the web so it's a data hog, even though I'm a light user.
I know that TM and others permit tethering as a built in or as a work around with a third party app. But I was told - apparently incorrectly - that the GS4G could do the same thing as a router without any cap set by the carrier. Hmm. Maybe there's a way to develop and independent app to do just that... but that's way beyond my pay grade.
Misc - 1). I guess I filed this thread under the wrong heading. Sorry, Mr. C and thanks for the course correction; 2). What issues do I have with the phone? Well, the biggest one is that suddenly - after I changed to Simple Mobile from TM, I can no longer access the login page to my third party office scheduler. Previously, I could at least access the login page, login and view the appointments, but it crashed every time I tried to make an app using the phone (but not using a laptop). Support told me that a mobile Android app has to be customized in order to work because of the page loading limitations of the Android system - whatever that means - and that maybe in a few months they'll have an app. In the meantime, they recommend using a sync with GooCal. But GC seems to flub the time zone differences between when you post an appointment online and when it is synced to the phone. I thought that Goo had fixed that, but I still see West Coast time on the GooCal website and the correct East Coast time on the phone. I'm so confused! Does anyone know if GooCal is HIPAA compliant for a medical practice? If not; anyone use another service that IS compliant on their Annie device? Another problem I had - now resolved by my ISP provider - was that Android didn't support the wav file for my voice mails. Now it does. If not, that would've been a deal breaker. Also, I was told - apparently ALSO incorrectly by TM - that visual voice mail was a speech to text app. Nope. It just plays an audio and you can see the date and time and phone number and pause it. Big whoop. I'm told that Google Voice IS a real, but perhaps flawed, speech to text voice mail conversion, but I don't think it will work for business purposes. I thought about Line two, but was told their visual voice mail is only like TM's visual voice, not speech to text. Lastly, TM said you could dictate reports with a pre-loaded, stock dictation/speech to text app. Nope again. Um, I think that covers it. Any experience with any of these glitches?
I think that his site rocks and everyone thinking of buying any cell or service should come here first and just not even bother with any of the carriers' sales personnel. But the carriers aren't interested in selling to folks like us, are they? They want the masses who just plug and play. OK. No quarrel with that. I'm just glad we're not ALL forced to PnP and this site, we don't have to. I do think that adding Mods and rooting are the way to go, but I'm a Mac guy and everything here seems PCentric. so I may have to wait till I get my hands on a Win 7 machine for half an hour. (No, I don't run Parallels - had a bad experience with a couple of early versions).
I'm still a GS4G booster to date and I'm going to try new things with it. But so far it makes me wish it was more intuitive.
Cheers,
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Protective Measures: To provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth. If your total usage exceeds 5GB (amount is subject to change without notice; please check T-Mobile’s T&Cs on www.T-Mobile.com for updates) during a billing cycle, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle. If you use your Data Plan in a manner that could interfere with other customers’ service, affect our ability to allocate network capacity among customers, or degrade service quality for other customers, we may suspend, terminate, or restrict your data session, or switch you to a more appropriate Data Plan.
Copied from the Terms and Conditions which has a link on literally every single page on T-Mo's website and is clearly marked in the section titled "Data Plans and Other Features".
Alternatively, on Verizon's site...You can only get to the details about their data package after adding a voice plan and phone to your cart...at which point it gives a vague description of their throttling rules that do not mention exact amounts. It just says that it can throttle your speed whenever it feels like.
So again...not seeing a problem here...
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When I asked the TMO rep “This data plan has UNLIMITED DATA”? He said YES. He made no mention of the 5GB “LIMIT”. Therefore he misrepresented the product. These companies falsely advertise their products with misleading information to make it look bigger than life in an attempt to lock us in to a two year contract. You are saying that because they hide the gory details somewhere in their web pages that makes it OK. You speculate that the reason Alltel went out of business is because of over usage by their customers clogging their lines. I don’t know where you did your research but I never had any issues with service failure due to over usage or any other issues for that matter. You said “All carriers throttle”. I was never throttled ONCE by Alltel. I guess that may be true now, since the only decent service provider has been acquired by their Big Brother Corporations. If they were still in business I would still be there. Would it not be a novel Idea to invest in their network so they can handle the added throughput, and provide a robust network that gives us the service they promised us in their advertising? I don’t have any problem with paying for a product or service I want. I do have a problem with companies that lie or mislead about their product. TMO puts it out there in LARGE WORDS “UNLIMITED DATA” then hides the gory details in other places. Your attitude is that’s just fine with you. If more people would not take the BULL-onie that these Corporations are shoving down our throats and demand HONISTY in advertising we would be getting a better value for our money. You are dam right when you say I am rebelling to corporate standards. Corporations do not have our best interests in mind. They are only concerned about profit. If they can do away with competition, there is more profit for the higher-ups. Then you lose your job and the public looses their choice and gets less value. You choose to justify what these corporations are doing to our nation and put on blindfolds to the truth.
I gladly respect and give fosormic his right to his opinion. I just think that attitude promotes the passive nature that has allowed this country to go down the tubes and be taken over by greedy corporate money barons. People in this country have to have the Balls to stand up and be heard if this nation is to survive.
If you want to get worked up about something look into "'net neutrality" -- that's a cause worth fighting.
Yes, it is "easy" to hit a 5 GB cap. Yes, it is very clearly called out in the T&C of the phone -- You had 14 days in most states (30 days in California) to read that and get a full refund if you didn't agree.
The T-Mobile data service is arguably "unlimited" -- once you hit the cap, you are free to continue.
As speeds increase and more people have a phone capable of sustained and reliable rates over 1 Mbps, then you will see consumer pressure for higher caps. Until then, welcome to the bleeding edge...
Dude...you are getting way too bent over this.
You keep making T-mo out to be a terrible carrier...I'm just trying to convince you that they are the lesser of the evils.
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When I asked the TMO rep “This data plan has UNLIMITED DATA”? He said YES. He made no mention of the 5GB “LIMIT”. Therefore he misrepresented the product.
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No...he told the truth. It is unlimited data. The alternative to unlimited data is what Att does which is set a limit and then charge you when you go over that limit. It is (or should be at this point) common knowledge that if you have a mobile data plan that is unlimited...your carrier will throttle you if you use too much.
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You are saying that because they hide the gory details somewhere in their web pages that makes it OK. You speculate that the reason Alltel went out of business is because of over usage by their customers clogging their lines.
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Um...no and no. I'm saying that it's there for you to read in the place that you should read before committing to a two-year contract. We're not talking about fine print locked away in a website that can only be found by searching one specific term...It's the TERMS & CONDITIONS and there is LITERALLY A LINK ON EVERY SINGLE PAGE ON THEIR WEBSITE. They are not hiding it...I really don't see why you think they are. Also...I never speculated why Alltel went out of business...I don't know why and I don't really care. They are not around anymore and have not been for a while so there really is no point in talking about it.
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Would it not be a novel Idea to invest in their network so they can handle the added throughput, and provide a robust network that gives us the service they promised us in their advertising? I don’t have any problem with paying for a product or service I want. I do have a problem with companies that lie or mislead about their product. TMO puts it out there in LARGE WORDS “UNLIMITED DATA” then hides the gory details in other places.
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It's for MOBILE DATA. That's what the network is intended for...NOT HOME INTERNET. The service you want is HOME BROADBAND. If that's what you want...get that. They offer unlimited downloads and never throttle your speed because their service is intended to be used on a massive scale. What you are doing is like...Going to McDonalds and wondering why they aren't serving high class food. It's a restaurant...They serve food...gotta be the same as a 5-star restaurant...WHY AREN'T THEY SERVING 5-STAR FOOD!? Because you're looking in the wrong place, dude. If you want home internet...get home internet...stop expecting all of the carriers to conform to what you want when they are clearly just not set up for it.
Stop dissing T-mo...T-mo is the best carrier out there for what people on this site want from a carrier. Basically...they love nerds and are very very fair. Yes...the T-mo Customer Service people in store aren't the brightest people in the world...But it's because they are hired based on customer service experience not technology knowledge (Techknowledgy!? COINED IT!)...if they were A) I wouldn't be working on a Production Line making 8 an hour and B) Mobile phone customer service reps would know what the **** they were talking about.
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@Whiskey Tango - Go to Menu>settings>Wireless Network>Mobile AP> Activate Mobile AP. This is what works for me, idk if maybe simple mobile is any different then tmobile or not.
So if you already have a data plan, you should be able to make your phone a "router". I have let many friends (w/iphones & att) use my mobile AP and it was 10 x's faster than there data connection.
I also tether my pc to my phone and have been able to load any page I went to.
Maybe I'm totally missing the question. Wouldn't be the first time.
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Dude...you are getting way too bent over this.
You keep making T-mo out to be a terrible carrier...I'm just trying to convince you that they are the lesser of the evils.
No...he told the truth. It is unlimited data. The alternative to unlimited data is what Att does which is set a limit and then charge you when you go over that limit. It is (or should be at this point) common knowledge that if you have a mobile data plan that is unlimited...your carrier will throttle you if you use too much.
Um...no and no. I'm saying that it's there for you to read in the place that you should read before committing to a two-year contract. We're not talking about fine print locked away in a website that can only be found by searching one specific term...It's the TERMS & CONDITIONS and there is LITERALLY A LINK ON EVERY SINGLE PAGE ON THEIR WEBSITE. They are not hiding it...I really don't see why you think they are. Also...I never speculated why Alltel went out of business...I don't know why and I don't really care. They are not around anymore and have not been for a while so there really is no point in talking about it.
It's for MOBILE DATA. That's what the network is intended for...NOT HOME INTERNET. The service you want is HOME BROADBAND. If that's what you want...get that. They offer unlimited downloads and never throttle your speed because their service is intended to be used on a massive scale. What you are doing is like...Going to McDonalds and wondering why they aren't serving high class food. It's a restaurant...They serve food...gotta be the same as a 5-star restaurant...WHY AREN'T THEY SERVING 5-STAR FOOD!? Because you're looking in the wrong place, dude. If you want home internet...get home internet...stop expecting all of the carriers to conform to what you want when they are clearly just not set up for it.
Stop dissing T-mo...T-mo is the best carrier out there for what people on this site want from a carrier. Basically...they love nerds and are very very fair. Yes...the T-mo Customer Service people in store aren't the brightest people in the world...But it's because they are hired based on customer service experience not technology knowledge (Techknowledgy!? COINED IT!)...if they were A) I wouldn't be working on a Production Line making 8 an hour and B) Mobile phone customer service reps would know what the **** they were talking about.
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I agree with the statement TMO is the lesser of two evils. I have had cell service with all the majors: Verizon, Sprint, Cingular/ATT, Alltel and now TMO. Unfortunately the only one that gave me decent service is no longer around. I went to TMO because they advertise unlimited data and when I talked to the rep he said they also have an unlimited voice plan. I am looking for the best value I can get. I’ve been around a long time and have watched this corporate mentality lower the standards of living for most Americans. Part of why this is happening is the passive nature of people in America. We have become complacent. We are not demanding enough on these companies that deceive us with their advertising and then don’t give us what they promise.
I am using this as my primary internet as I said because I drive truck and not home enough to warrant getting satellite service, which is my only other option where I live. Realistically when I am on the road I probably will not hit the 5GB limit very often. What sucks is while I am at home I get this lousy EDGE speed. After further checking, Sprint, ATT and Verizon all have 3G from the same tower that TMO gives me 2G and then TMO throttles that to 1G or less. So yes, I’m pissed off. But then I have taken action and voiced my concern to TMO. The result is I’ve been released from my contract. I have the option of going to another provider. The problem is I’m already with the lesser of the evils and next year there will be even less choice. I haven’t been out on the road yet to see what TMO will provide for service then. I will probably keep the service for a while until I see what kind of service I get on the road, and then decide my next move.
Hey guys, anybody else having problem once they activate the AP settings on there phone? I can get my computer to connect to the phone, and yet i can't get access to the internet on my laptop (vista).

LOOK HERE! How to get AT&T to bring back $30 data.

Hey guys! Just got off the phone with an AT&T rep, tried to talk him into getting me unlimited data for $30 per month. Obviously that didn't work so well, but he did share some valuable info with me...
Every time someone calls and asks for it, they file a report and send it make to the main department. The keep each report, and he says they've been getting so many recently, they're considering bringing back the plan for those who have called in and asked for it sometime in the next few months.
I don't really know how it will work, but here's your time to call!
Can someone else ask AT&T if these reports actually exist so I know this thread isn't pointless?
Just dial up an ATT rep and ask for unlimited data. They'll most likely say no, but they will also most likely file that report that one guy mentioned.
ok thank.........
In other news, the temperature of earths core has dropped buy over nine thousand degrees.
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When I spoke to a CSR manager he didn't say anything about reports but he did confirm that they've been getting bombarded with irate customers who want the unlimited data plan back. His outlook on it was that AT&T was forever changing their plans to meet customers needs and that it was very likely that an unlimited plan would become available in the near future.
BUT and this is a big BUT .... He insinuated that it would come at a heftier price tag. So maybe instead of $30, we might be looking at a $50 all you can eat smorgasbord of data.
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I foresee a lot of people switching to Verizon is that is their comeback.
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I foresee a lot of people switching to Verizon is that is their comeback.
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Verizon is getting rid of unlimited data too...
Sounds like something I would say to a customer who had spent the last 30 minutes bombarding me with impossible requests.
Just wanted to confirm that I also got 'grandfathered' into an unlimited data plan at $30/month, though it took almost 3 weeks in 'management review' to get there. The problem for me is that I wanted the MEdia Net plan back, and I'm half tempted to tell them to stick their new phone and go back to using my HD2.
Here's why.
In all the years I've been with AT&T (four or more have been out of contract), I've never gone over 200MB a month, and I don't think I've ever gone over 30 text/mms messages a month. Never. Ever. Not when using my Kaiser, and not when using my HD2 both of which were bought privately from Ebay, and not as an upgrade. If anything, I've paid for MEdia net for many months when I didn't use data or messaging at all.
So, for me, a 2G data plan with 200 messages at $20/month would be fine for my needs, and still not hurt AT&T, since I'm not a data hog.
Anyway, just sayin'. YMMV.
Lol I doubt they will bring it back. It had more to do with them having network capacity issues than anything else.
Besides if they actually do keep that info then they will probably corolate the info with the average usage of the people making complaints and if those people are considered high use then it is unlikely their voices will be heard.
Besides I think they where even looking at getting in trouble for the network overload. Doubt they will go back.
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Network Extender

This could help everyone who has weak signal at home. My SGS3 was constantly switching LTE 3G 1X and sometimes loses connection completely when sitting downstairs. Even when it had reception call quality was terrible. Upstairs I got solid -99dBm LTE so that's fine. In the same time and place my old Fascinate has solid 3G or 1X and never loses connection or has problems with call quality. So I've called vzw and they offered me network extender. The problem was they wanted me to pay $150 for it ($250MSRP - $100 discount) even that I'm their customer for almost 10 years and pay $200/month for 4 lines. So I filed a claim with FCC but actually I wasn't hoping for anything. 10 days later I got surprise call from vzw and got brand new network extender shipped 2nd fedex for free. It helped a lot but it's still not 100% perfect. My phone still connects to LTE even it's only at -120dBm and then jumps to 3G extender when LTE is lost completely. So it won't help battery drain when switching bands but I don't lose connection and don't have problems with call quality anymore so that's better than it was before. So my advice for everyone having the same issues: spend some time filing a claim.
Give us the complaint details. Might help me
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More details would be great
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http://www.fcc.gov/complaints
Wireless Telephone - Billing, Service, Privacy, Number Portability and other issues
File form 2000B with your details. I basically put exactly what vzw customer service rep told me as comments. So that my home location has "marginal" coverage and I could get network extender for $150 even that I'm paying $200/month for service that I don't get. I've also included comment about well known reception problems with new S3. That was enough apparently.
btw. I think that you should call customer service first before filing any claim. Ask them to put some notes about your reception issues on your account. And ask about network extender also. Maybe you will be lucky and they will offer extender for free without any claim.
Have now 3 recorded signal complaints with Verizon, tried replacement devices etc. This is fantastic, I literally was going to invest in one of these myself (verizon didn't even mention it to me, found out from an at&t user).
Thanks man
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Last year I called cust. service and complained about the crappy signal at my parents house. They shipped out a free network extender no questions asked. I guess it just depends who you talk to, but they do have the authority to give you one.
I'm happy for you, but I would like to play devils advocate for a moment and make the argument they should have made.
Why do you complain about having marginal service in one place in your house now when you've been a customer for 10+ years? There are plenty of other carriers that may offer better service in your usual hangouts, but you have decided to stay with a company that cannot provide adequate coverage for a long time.
I may give this a try. I was looking at network extenders online and saw a lot of mixed reviews, so I haven't taken the plunge. My street in general is a 2 bar 1x deadzone. Thanks for the info!
While I am happy for you...it seems to me that this was not truly VZW's problem and is not something they should have had to fix unless we want everyone that works inside a building to get range extenders as well, for example. It appears as though you are a victim of great customer service to begin with (a $100 discount), and you simply got more oil because of being a squeaky wheel. There's nothing wrong with that, but VZW went out of their way to help you as far as I'm concerned.
Regardless, congratulations on your improved coverage! Does it work with Wi-Fi or 1X as well, or is it just 3G and 4G LTE? It'll last you a couple years at least as I don't see VZW upgrading radios for quite some time. How does it work? Does it just amplify the weak signal or do you have to have relays set up?
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While I am happy for you...it seems to me that this was not truly VZW's problem and is not something they should have had to fix unless we want everyone that works inside a building to get range extenders as well, for example. It appears as though you are a victim of great customer service to begin with (a $100 discount), and you simply got more oil because of being a squeaky wheel. There's nothing wrong with that, but VZW went out of their way to help you as far as I'm concerned.
Regardless, congratulations on your improved coverage! Does it work with Wi-Fi or 1X as well, or is it just 3G and 4G LTE? It'll last you a couple years at least as I don't see VZW upgrading radios for quite some time. How does it work? Does it just amplify the weak signal or do you have to have relays set up?
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Yeah this is what I forgot to put in my post, is it just for phone calls or does it have internet enhancing capabilities as well? Furthermore, I know companies share hardware to some extent, any clue if it would boost t-mobile as well?
I'm tired of paying for data when I feel forced to be on wifi all the time
Did last 2 posters actually read my first post? It's not that Verizon coverage was always that bad for me. My previous phone Samsung Fascinate that I'm still using on another line works just fine in the same place. I've also had numerous of other phones in the same place before (motorola razr 2 and motorola razr maxx was last 2) and none of them had problems with calls quality. So it's clearly S3's poor antenna what's causing reception problems for me. Verizon sold me not fully functional Samsung’s product and I've signed new 2 year agreement when got S3 and have to pay for service so they have to provide me what I'm paying for. They could try to replace my S3 with another one but everybody knows that it wouldn't help. They could send technicians to check signal in my area (that was first suggestion from rep) but that would probably not make any difference either or take another couple of months. They have network extender available for problems like that but why would I have pay to get it if I pay for service each month? That’s not my fault that they sold me product that cannot give me proper access to their service in the same place where other phones are working just fine.
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Did last 2 posters actually read my first post? It's not that Verizon coverage was always that bad for me. My previous phone Samsung Fascinate that I'm still using on another line works just fine in the same place. I've also had numerous of other phones in the same place before (motorola razr 2 and motorola razr maxx was last 2) and none of them had problems with calls quality. So it's clearly S3's poor antenna what's causing reception problems for me. Verizon sold me not fully functional Samsung’s product and I've signed new 2 year agreement when got S3 and have to pay for service so they have to provide me what I'm paying for. They could try to replace my S3 with another one but everybody knows that it wouldn't help. They could send technicians to check signal in my area (that was first suggestion from rep) but that would probably not make any difference either or take another couple of months. They have network extender available for problems like that but why would I have pay to get it if I pay for service each month? That’s not my fault that they sold me product that cannot give me proper access to their service in the same place where other phones are working just fine.
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Did you read my post? I didn't say anything about your previous phone. I only pointed out that VZW did what they were not obligated to do. By virtue of the fact that you get service upstairs, your basement is the problem and not VZW.
Guys you should read what Network Extender is.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/device/network-extender
It's not cellular amplifier. It uses your internet connection to make and receive calls. So basically it's VoIP device with built in 3G signal antenna.
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Did you read my post? I didn't say anything about your previous phone. I only pointed out that VZW did what they were not obligated to do. By virtue of the fact that you get service upstairs, your basement is the problem and not VZW.
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First of all it's not a basement, it's ground level (2 level townhouse). Second, my other phones are working fine in the same spot and never lose connection or get poor call quality. So it's not fully functional device that they sold me.
btw. I love my S3 and would not replace it for any other vzw current phone
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Did last 2 posters actually read my first post? It's not that Verizon coverage was always that bad for me. My previous phone Samsung Fascinate that I'm still using on another line works just fine in the same place. I've also had numerous of other phones in the same place before (motorola razr 2 and motorola razr maxx was last 2) and none of them had problems with calls quality. So it's clearly S3's poor antenna what's causing reception problems for me. Verizon sold me not fully functional Samsung’s product and I've signed new 2 year agreement when got S3 and have to pay for service so they have to provide me what I'm paying for. They could try to replace my S3 with another one but everybody knows that it wouldn't help. They could send technicians to check signal in my area (that was first suggestion from rep) but that would probably not make any difference either or take another couple of months. They have network extender available for problems like that but why would I have pay to get it if I pay for service each month? That’s not my fault that they sold me product that cannot give me proper access to their service in the same place where other phones are working just fine.
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You never mentioned your quality over time, only your reception discrepancy between phones. You also left your internet situation somewhat ambiguous, only mentioning that it switches between radios even with the extender. I understand your argument is that its a less desirable antenna in the GS3 than your previous phone, was just trying to get you to say more about your extender while taking a friendly poke at Verizon's usual lack of customer service.
I tend to use google voice when I'm at home through my computer, its just nice to know my phone actually HAS service in case of an emergency or if somebody important calls, or Jesus comes back etc.
The verizon variant of the S3 has considerably less radio power than other verizon devices. It's a known issue with Verizon, and it's up to them to remedy it, as the same device from Sprint gets better reception. I proved that with a coworkers sprint s3 + mine at work. His made calls, mine didn't.
Until they fix the radio issue, things like this may need to be implemented. Awesome original post, thanks again for the info.
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Still, if you can get reception elsewhere, it is not necessarily VZW's responsibility. Otherwise, they'd need to supply everyone who works in a building that limits signal, etc. I'm just saying VZW went out of their way. If your house is within the 4G LTE map coverage boundary, and you couldn't get coverage even on your highest floor, I could see what Verizon did as required. Verizon cannot control the configuration and construction of your house, after all. It is of no consequence regardless and Verizon doesn't lose money on the deal if it is assumed you would switch service providers had they not helped out so you've nothing to defend. I'm simply saying I, personally, don't think you were entitled to the signal booster to the point that an FCC complaint was warranted. A $100 discount would have been more than enough - in my opinion.
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The verizon variant of the S3 has considerably less radio power than other verizon devices. It's a known issue with Verizon, and it's up to them to remedy it, as the same device from Sprint gets better reception. I proved that with a coworkers sprint s3 + mine at work. His made calls, mine didn't.
Until they fix the radio issue, things like this may need to be implemented. Awesome original post, thanks again for the info.
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What? How does that prove anything? The towers would have to be in the exact same spot, have the exact same output, hardware, design, etc., for that to even come close to proving anything. I'm not saying there isn't a problem, but simply that you didn't prove anything.
Boston area dude, no issues network wise here. The vzw s3 doesn't hold a card to vzw droids or HTC devices signal wise. There is little or no difference in this area between the carriers.
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Plus both s3 devices registering an approximate -100 to 110db signal, vzw has 2 bars, sprint full bars.
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Still, if you can get reception elsewhere, it is not necessarily VZW's responsibility. Otherwise, they'd need to supply everyone who works in a building that limits signal, etc. I'm just saying VZW went out of their way. If your house is within the 4G LTE map coverage boundary, and you couldn't get coverage even on your highest floor, I could see what Verizon did as required.
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Actually looking at vzw's website coverage maps my house is in the middle of full LTE coverage. Marginal coverage was rep's word. Maybe they have more detailed maps for internal use. But LTE was not a issue for me. I don't need data at home cause I always use wifi. Problem with making and receiving calls was the problem. It is fundamental future of the phone and S3 is still a phone right?
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Verizon cannot control the configuration and construction of your house, after all.
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Correct but they can control what they sell. So if they sell not fully functional phone they have to back it up and do whatever it's needed to make it work right. My other phones were always working fine in the same spot and even in the worst spot of the house where Fascinate would switch to 1X it never lost reception completely and never had problems with call quality. It is clear for me that Galaxy S3 hardware/software is the problem not my house and probably vzw is fully aware of that.
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It is of no consequence regardless and Verizon doesn't lose money on the deal if it is assumed you would switch service providers had they not helped out so you've nothing to defend. I'm simply saying I, personally, don't think you were entitled to the signal booster to the point that an FCC complaint was warranted. A $100 discount would have been more than enough - in my opinion.
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As my original post said, I was not hoping for anything filing fcc claim. I was prepare to fight more directly with vzw if nothing would change till the end of September. Probably I would demand technician visit or phone replacement. They chose to make me happy in the easiest way and that's fine for me. My post was strictly for informational purposes for people like me struggling with poor S3's reception who had no luck dealing with vzw directly.
Geeze people, why are you attcking the OP. He had bad signal at is house and Verizon sent him a booster. I think the issue here is with Verizon. They pick and choose who to send them to for free and who needs to pay. Maybe if they were consistant it would not be a big deal.
But why should one person have to pay $150 for the device and others get it for free with no other reason then they got lucky with the rep they spoke to. If people's main home billong address is in a known frigne area they should offer these for free. Verizon customers pay the highest monthly fee's then any other carriers. I had no problem getting a free booster from Sprint as many others received them as well free of charge.
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Geeze people, why are you attcking the OP. He had bad signal at is house and Verizon sent him a booster. I think the issue here is with Verizon. They pick and choose who to send them to for free and who needs to pay. Maybe if they were consistant it would not be a big deal.
But why should one person have to pay $150 for the device and others get it for free with no other reason then they got lucky with the rep they spoke to. If people's main home billong address is in a known frigne area they should offer these for free. Verizon customers pay the highest monthly fee's then any other carriers. I had no problem getting a free booster from Sprint as many others received them as well free of charge.
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Agreed completely! Also why is everyone trying to stick up for Verizon so much?
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