If I'm trying to remain predominantly stock (just rooted with TWRP recovery), there's no reason to unlock the bootloader, correct?
Your phone will boot up a little bit faster if you unlock it since it no longer does a Software check at startup. You will also get rid of that custom boot screen with the lock icon that shows up when you are rooted. But other than that, if you want to stay fully stock with with just Root, there isn't too much need for unlocking your bootloader.
The only reason that i unlocked mine is to install a custom kernel so i could overclock and underclock my CPU. Other than that there is really no reason to.
The only reason that i unlocked mine is to install a custom kernel so i could overclock and underclock my CPU. Other than that there is really no reason to.
Waleslie said:
If I'm trying to remain predominantly stock (just rooted with TWRP recovery), there's no reason to unlock the bootloader, correct?
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Really no need to unlock the bootloader unless you want to flash any custom kernel or ROM. They require the bootloader to be unlocked.
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Does unlocking the bootloader give you root?
And in which instances can you flash a custom recovery or customs ROMs?
Rooting means you can install apps that require root access (like titanium backup or setcpu). Unlocked bootloader means you can load any rom, kernel, etc that you like. Unlocked bootloader is usually acquired after rooting.
I'm not sure I totally understand the first reply, so here is my take on it.
Rooting will let you install apps that require root as already stated, but rooting will let you install custom ROMs and do just about any tweak you want. I finally did unlock my bootloader, but the only benefit I gained was being able to change the flash screen, which is the first screen you see when the phone powers on.
I have read that it's harder to brick your phone with a s=off bootloader too.
It is not harder to brick your phone with an unlocked bootloader, just easier to recover from a soft-brick. An unlocked bootloader will allow you to flash using fastboot. So in the case of a corrupt recovery, or something along those lines, you are able to flash it using your computer. It basically allows you to flash different parts of an image separately.
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It is not harder to brick your phone with an unlocked bootloader, just easier to recover from a soft-brick.
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That's pretty much what I meant, I just didn't say it right. Thanks for clearing it up.
How to find my phones' bootloader is locked or not? Because i already flashed different custom ROMs and using it.
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Cjey
If you are rooted with a custom recovery, your bootloader is unlocked.
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If you are rooted with a custom recovery, your bootloader is unlocked.
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Thanks buddy,
I want to know that what if i flash ROM for locked bootloaders?
Honestly, I didn't know you can root your phone till today I read a few posts here. So thank you all guys for the input
slight confusion over rooted
i had the .67 generic uk firmware, i downloaded the central europe .73 firmware and used flashtool to flash the ftf file,
all worked fine once i installed the drivers on flash tool,
my confusion is...... alot of people are saying there phone is rooted/bootloader unlocked, am i rite in thinking my phone is rooted and not unlocked,
others have also said they have flashed the .img to the phone which i havent done, is there something ive done wrong ?
Hi, I have already rooted and unlocked my bootloader then proceeded to flash a custom ROM. I want to try out a different ROM so do I have to re-do the whole root and unlock bootloader process ? I know its just flash one simple zip file in recovery but the reason I ask is my phone got soft bricked last time around.
dannyboy951 said:
Hi, I have already rooted and unlocked my bootloader then proceeded to flash a custom ROM. I want to try out a different ROM so do I have to re-do the whole root and unlock bootloader process ? I know its just flash one simple zip file in recovery but the reason I ask is my phone got soft bricked last time around.
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Once it's unlocked you don't need to do it again unless you intentionally re-lock it or get a new phone.
Also be careful if you somehow get vzw OTA pushed to your phone (sometimes happens without you knowing it) it will lock your bootloader again and when you go to flash it will say something about taking your phone to verizon. Don't panic as most people do all you have to do is unlock again and everything will be fine
I'm on the latest official OTA of 4.2.1
Do I need to unlock the bootloader to root?
I read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187982
and I'm still not sure whats happening... Do I need to downgrade to root, and do I need to unlock the bootloader to flash TWRP?
I know a bit of what I'm doing as I have rooted and flashed roms on an htc desire and a samsung s2x (t989).
On 4.2.1 theres the occasional hiccup and freezes when I use chrome... Is this still an issue in the custom roms? Also my Settings app crashes when I try to load the "Running" tab in the apps section of settings lol
Can someone point me in the right direct?
Chris9446 said:
I'm on the latest official OTA of 4.2.1
Do I need to unlock the bootloader to root?
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Well, you have two basic options:
Get root without unlocking.
That is good, if you want to stick with stock ROM, but want to run Apps that need root access.
Or if you don't want to unlock for any reason.
More details in this thread: [JB ROOT] motochopper works! (Root JB 4.1.1 & 4.2.1 with locked bootloader!)
Unlock and install the patched TWRP for -4.2.
This will allow you to root stock ROM easily or you can install custom ROMs.
Be careful: You have the boot loader 4.2, which means you need to pick the patched TWRP for that boot loader and you need to pick one of the ROMs supporting the 4.2 boot loader.
People have bricked their TF300Ts not using the patched TWRP -4.2 version.
There are currently only two ROMs available, but more should be coming soon, as Asus has finally released the new kernel source code.
If your preferred custom ROM supports only the 4.1 boot loader, you need to downgrade. Or just wait a little, as you like...
I read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187982
and I'm still not sure whats happening... Do I need to downgrade to root, and do I need to unlock the bootloader to flash TWRP?
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No and yes.
You can use the tool from the tread above just get root; no downgrading, no unlocking.
But yes, if you want to install TWRP, you need to unlock your device first.
You only need to downgrade for installing a custom ROM that does not (yet) support the 4.2 boot loader.
On 4.2.1 theres the occasional hiccup and freezes when I use chrome... Is this still an issue in the custom roms? Also my Settings app crashes when I try to load the "Running" tab in the apps section of settings lol
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I have not used stock ROM for a while, but generally people report that most custom ROMs run much smoother than stock Asus ROM:
I would suggest downgrading ti the 4.1.1 bootloader, as there is a much larger variety or ROMS available.
f69m said:
Well, you have two basic options:
Get root without unlocking.
That is good, if you want to stick with stock ROM, but want to run Apps that need root access.
Or if you don't want to unlock for any reason.
More details in this thread: [JB ROOT] motochopper works! (Root JB 4.1.1 & 4.2.1 with locked bootloader!)
Unlock and install the patched TWRP for -4.2.
This will allow you to root stock ROM easily or you can install custom ROMs.
Be careful: You have the boot loader 4.2, which means you need to pick the patched TWRP for that boot loader and you need to pick one of the ROMs supporting the 4.2 boot loader.
People have bricked their TF300Ts not using the patched TWRP -4.2 version.
There are currently only two ROMs available, but more should be coming soon, as Asus has finally released the new kernel source code.
If your preferred custom ROM supports only the 4.1 boot loader, you need to downgrade. Or just wait a little, as you like...
No and yes.
You can use the tool from the tread above just get root; no downgrading, no unlocking.
But yes, if you want to install TWRP, you need to unlock your device first.
You only need to downgrade for installing a custom ROM that does not (yet) support the 4.2 boot loader.
I have not used stock ROM for a while, but generally people report that most custom ROMs run much smoother than stock Asus ROM:
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Thanks was a lot of great information! I rooted my pad and did a few speed optimization things such as re-trimming and now its much smoother! Maybe I'll try a custom rom later but as for now, I'm happy with the updates that Asus provides
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I would suggest downgrading ti the 4.1.1 bootloader, as there is a much larger variety or ROMS available.
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I'll keep that in mind but I believe there should be more soon as f69m, stated that asus release the kernel for 4.2
I signed that petition in your signature as well
I'd say go for the 'full experience'. Having an unlocked device also allows you to reflash ROMs at will and can also help in a pinch when it comes to backups/restores. Also, if you happen to lose root, it's easily re-rootable through the bootloader.
I'd just be careful of the current TWRP 4.2.1 recovery blob. I just flashed the one released this morning and I am currently getting this weird double screen thing. Best bet is to sit tight at the moment; an update should be out shortly.
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I'd just be careful of the current TWRP 4.2.1 recovery blob. I just flashed the one released this morning and I am currently getting this weird double screen thing. Best bet is to sit tight at the moment; an update should be out shortly.
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Well, stay away from the TWRP 2.5.0.0-4.2 provided in some thread today, but TWRP 2.4.4.0-4.2 should still be working fine.
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Hi everyone!
I have a problem and I need your help. I'm using AVD Rom but I have locked bootloader ("Unlock bootloader allowed: no"). But I need help with flashing .zips. I was trying to do it via Flash Gordon but this application doesn't work properly for me and one time it caused bootloop in my phone. I wanted to flash Pure Performances™ but I don't know how. Does anyone know any program like Flash Gordon but more stable?
Thanks for help in advance
cahir1495 said:
Hi everyone!
I have a problem and I need your help. I'm using AVD Rom but I have locked bootloader ("Unlock bootloader allowed: no"). But I need help with flashing .zips. I was trying to do it via Flash Gordon but this application doesn't work properly for me and one time it caused bootloop in my phone. I wanted to flash Pure Performances™ but I don't know how. Does anyone know any program like Flash Gordon but more stable?
Thanks for help in advance
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There are restrictions on CUSTOM ROMS which require UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER. However, some ROMS can even work on LOCKED BOOTLOADER. So every time you flash your ROM with locked bootloader, you will end up bootlooped. Sometimes, the ROM would work but some extra modifications wouldnot work (as they require further freedom which only unlocked bootloader can provide)/ Thus flashing Zips made for UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER will also result in bootloops.
The best way would be to check out which ROMS support locked bootloaders or if someone from your community comes out with a hack to UNLOCK your bootloader when you are not allowed.
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There are restrictions on CUSTOM ROMS which require UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER. However, some ROMS can even work on LOCKED BOOTLOADER. So every time you flash your ROM with locked bootloader, you will end up bootlooped. Sometimes, the ROM would work but some extra modifications wouldnot work (as they require further freedom which only unlocked bootloader can provide)/ Thus flashing Zips made for UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER will also result in bootloops.
The best way would be to check out which ROMS support locked bootloaders or if someone from your community comes out with a hack to UNLOCK your bootloader when you are not allowed.
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I understand but most of zips caused bootloop if i flashed them via flash gordon. And I've read that Pure Performances modification doesn't need unlocked bootloader
What is a bootloader(tell me in simplest way)....Is unlocking the bootloader really required...? If not then please post another method for root......
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What is a bootloader(tell me in simplest way)....Is unlocking the bootloader really required...? If not then please post another method for root......
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watch this video to unlock it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdJg7KNH3A
and a bootloader allows you to flash kernels/recovers/ and other custom things but only if it is unlocked.
with custom recovery you can install roms,make full system backup,and other things.
a custom kernel wil allow you to overclock cpu/gpu and more.
a custom recovery can be used to flash root.update zip.
but after unlocking bootloader you void your warranty . and your device got hard reset(factory reset)
it can be only unlocked if it is allowed to be unlocked.
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and a bootloader allows you to flash kernels/recovers/ and other custom things but only if it is unlocked.
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Not entirely true, at least to all devices. I have a Moto Defy which also has a locked bootloader, no way to unlock, running KK CM11. Developer @pedrodh has managed to create an app called "2ndinit" (1) which allows a second kernel to boot on top of the locked one, allowing to flash new builds despite the locked bootloader. Because of this, Defy is known as unbricable. Similar approach could be used on E3 if some devel take a look into this.
(1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
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mmerlone said:
Not entirely true, at least to all devices. I have a Moto Defy which also has a locked bootloader, no way to unlock, running KK CM11. Developer @pedrodh has managed to create an app called "2ndinit" (1) which allows a second kernel to boot on top of the locked one, allowing to flash new builds despite the locked bootloader. Because of this, Defy is known as unbricable. Similar approach could be used on E3 if some devel take a look into this.
(1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
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this required root.
for now you need to unlockbootloader to root xperia.
root ur device without unlocking
vinay said:
this required root.
for now you need to unlockbootloader to root xperia.
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just use kingoroot or kingroot to root ur device no need to unlock boot loader for running those you will have root access but can't do the flashing part