[Q] Can AT&T tell if your One X is Rogers? - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

:crying: Hello all,
As the title states the question is whether AT&T can identify the One X as a "smart phone" by inserting the dumbphone SIM, if it comes from Rogers network. There is another thread that speaks of using MediaNet to get unlimited data by using a NON-AT&T phone (see thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446373). But thats not my intent here.
My reason for asking is that I want to give my son the One X to use on his "dumbphone" plan for just text and talk, NO data except through wi-fi. It seems that using the above method would work since they apparently can't identify the IMEI as a smartphone because it came from another carrier. Will this work?? Someone must have done this already.
I'm also searching for a place to buy the Rogers version. I already bought the AT&T upgrade One X to sell on E-bay and use the money to purchase the Rogers version.
Again - Just looking to use the One X on AT&T with no data plan by basically "hiding" the IMEI from them and inserting the dumbphone SIM.
How 'bout it ?? any help appreciated!
Thanks,
joe

joelisajer said:
:crying: Hello all,
As the title states the question is whether AT&T can identify the One X as a "smart phone" by inserting the dumbphone SIM, if it comes from Rogers network. There is another thread that speaks of using MediaNet to get unlimited data by using a NON-AT&T phone (see thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446373). But thats not my intent here.
My reason for asking is that I want to give my son the One X to use on his "dumbphone" plan for just text and talk, NO data except through wi-fi. It seems that using the above method would work since they apparently can't identify the IMEI as a smartphone because it came from another carrier. Will this work?? Someone must have done this already.
I'm also searching for a place to buy the Rogers version. I already bought the AT&T upgrade One X to sell on E-bay and use the money to purchase the Rogers version.
Again - Just looking to use the One X on AT&T with no data plan by basically "hiding" the IMEI from them and inserting the dumbphone SIM.
How 'bout it ?? any help appreciated!
Thanks,
joe
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For one, if you are using your upgrade to buy and sell a phone without using it, then I strongly recommend you buy an iPhone. Resale value is very high and they are super easy to move.
Second, if he will never use the data, why not just get an international quad core One X instead of trying to get the Rogers one, which is essentially the same as AT&T version?
Or just get a Nexus 4.

Initially you may be able to fool ATT with a out of service IMEI, but if your son tries to access 3g or 4g data I'd imagine ATT would automatically sign you up for the 3 GB plan.

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[Q] Will ATT unlimited dumbphone plan work on international smartphones??

I actually already a Meizu M9 (Android device) since I found it really cheap online($180) I knew the 3G wasn't going to work when I bought it which is fine. I only get EDGE speed which is fine for me since I only occasionally lookup stuff on google and EDGE speed is fine to do that. Also I have WiFi at both home and school and so I can use that to get me the faster speeds if I want.
What I really was wondering about was would I be forced to upgrade to the ATT smartphone plan? I have the $15unlmimted Medianet right now and since my phone only gets EDGE anyways I really don't want to have be upgraded. How does ATT detect the IEMI # on phones? The Meizu M9 is a Chinese branded phone and there are only a handful in the USA currently. Will they be able to tell I am using this phone and will they upgrade me?
Another thing I was wondering was that what are the typical APN codes for Android Smartphones? I am not sure if I have the right ones entered or not.
Here's a video showing you how to set up the APN's for unlocked phones.
Also i'm pretty sure you are ok with your data plan. AT&T has a list of IMEI (Identifiers) from all the phones they sell and if one shows up in their system as a smartphone then they change it but they wouldn't have yours
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Good question, but I think you should talk to ATT.
Can you let us know how you like the Meizu phone? I heard that they make decent phones, but I've never used one myself.
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Following up on this one. I am also considering buying an ebay M9 instead of a new mtk6575 based china clone. Would love to know if AT&T triggered the smartphone plan or not.
If I get no answer, then I'll come back when I get one of the two and let everyone else know my experience.

I'm on AT&T go phone, can I purchase the one x full retail witouth problems?

I know what you think, go phone sucks, not enough data blah blah blah. But AT&T recently upgraded their gophone data plan to 1GB from 500 mb. Honestly 1GB for me is more than enough cause I use wifi at home, wifi at work, I live in the Washington dc area and there's wifi everywhere so I barely even use my data. Do you think I'll be able to buy the one XL ( off contract of course) or will AT&T give me a hard time cause I'm a gophone customer? I'm just worry about the fact that it's LTE.
You might get some pushback from the rep or manager, but there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to get it. You will just have to change your APN, as the only one that works with prepaid is "wap.cingular"
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mosesman86 said:
You might get some pushback from the rep or manager, but there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to get it. You will just have to change your APN, as the only one that works with prepaid is "wap.cingular"
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Thanks for the reply, I guess I'll buy it from amazon mobile that way I won't have to deal with the store reps and managers.
I don't know.... they might auto switch you. I would try to ask customer service
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barondebxl said:
Thanks for the reply, I guess I'll buy it from amazon mobile that way I won't have to deal with the store reps and managers.
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Typically, Amazon mobile or other 3rd party retailers, will charge more for non-contract phone than AT&T because they can't get any payback from AT&T.
Your biggest problem will be microSIM activation. You may have to buy a microSIM cutter to trim your current go phone SIM yourself. AT&T won't be thrilled to activate One X for a Go phone plan.
There is also a chance that AT&T will stop your data service once it detects that you are using a 4G smartphone (it has the IMEI number on database) on a Go Phone plan. Yes, it happened to others before.
foxbat121 said:
Typically, Amazon mobile or other 3rd party retailers, will charge more for non-contract phone than AT&T because they can't get any payback from AT&T.
Your biggest problem will be microSIM activation. You may have to buy a microSIM cutter to trim your current go phone SIM yourself. AT&T won't be thrilled to activate One X for a Go phone plan.
There is also a chance that AT&T will stop your data service once it detects that you are using a 4G smartphone (it has the IMEI number on database) on a Go Phone plan. Yes, it happened to others before.
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Thanks for the advice. I already have a micro sim cutter so I'm good on that end. I'm using a galaxy nexus on my go phone for about 3 weeks and no problem at all. It isn't 4G though so I don't know.
barondebxl said:
Thanks for the advice. I already have a micro sim cutter so I'm good on that end. I'm using a galaxy nexus on my go phone for about 3 weeks and no problem at all. It isn't 4G though so I don't know.
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The difference here is that AT&T has no idea what Galaxy Nexus is because it doesn't have the IMEI number on file because it is not an AT&T branded phone. It does have all IMEI# of AT&T branded phones on file.
foxbat121 said:
The difference here is that AT&T has no idea what Galaxy Nexus is because it doesn't have the IMEI number on file because it is not an AT&T branded phone. It does have all IMEI# of AT&T branded phones on file.
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True. I'll call an AT&T store and ask them just to make sure.
It's a lot easier to do something like that with T-mobile's monthly 4g pre-paid plans. All you need to do is order a sim online from them. They don't care what you use with their plan.
If I recall correctly u need a special lte sim to use lte.
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I don't really need lte, if I pop up my sum can I use hspa+?
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Your phone won't get hspa+ or lte on prepaid service. In fact, you won't get any data until you change your apn to wap.cingular, which is a 3G apn. If you need a microsim, just go to the at&t store and tell them you don't have your phone but you want to activate a prepaid plan. Be sure to specify that you need a microsim and they will just put a dummy IMEI consisting of all 1111111.
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mosesman86 said:
Your phone won't get hspa+ or lte on prepaid service. In fact, you won't get any data until you change your apn to wap.cingular, which is a 3G apn. If you need a microsim, just go to the at&t store and tell them you don't have your phone but you want to activate a prepaid plan. Be sure to specify that you need a microsim and they will just put a dummy IMEI consisting of all 1111111.
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I have hspa+ speeds on my nexus with my go phone plan.
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barondebxl said:
I have hspa+ speeds on my nexus with my go phone plan.
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Despite the US Carrier's "4G" (fauxG) marketing blitz, HSPA is actually 3G. The LTE build out is a proper 4th generation network.
If you do not care about LTE why not import an international version and not have to worry? Also you might be able to buy one from Rogers in Canada it is the same device but AT&T shouldn't have the IMEI number
Dark lord me said:
If you do not care about LTE why not import an international version and not have to worry? Also you might be able to buy one from Rogers in Canada it is the same device but AT&T shouldn't have the IMEI number
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I've actually thought about buying one from rogers. Like the fact it doesn't have a
carrier logo, but I don't know of any shops that sells them to ship in the states.
Dark lord me said:
If you do not care about LTE why not import an international version and not have to worry?
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AT&T version has 1-year warranty while imported version likely has zero warranty. If you bricked your phone one way or another, a warranty is probably quite important to most of us.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but unlocking bootloader on newer HTC phones is done via HTC Dev, and that voids your warranty automatically ( as in they have your IMEI and know you rooted with them)?
If so, then don't worry about having warranty for bricking the device, you lost it when bootlader was unlocked.
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If so, then don't worry about having warranty for bricking the device, you lost it when bootlader was unlocked.
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When your phone is bricked, e.g. can't boot up, there is no way AT&T can tell which version or unlocked boot loader you are using. At least not for the clerks at warranty center. If your bootloader is still functioning. Chances are you can still manage to load another ROM on to it.
Besides, there could be other hardware defacts that you may need to exchange. A warranty is always welcome.
Dark lord me said:
If you do not care about LTE why not import an international version and not have to worry? Also you might be able to buy one from Rogers in Canada it is the same device but AT&T shouldn't have the IMEI number
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Because I rather have the snapdragon S4 processor than the tegra 3. Also the international versions as a crapload of issues right now.

[Q] Upgrading to One X on ATT prepaid?

I am currently using an unlocked HTC legend on ATT's go phone/pre-paid $50/month plan. I am not paying the extra $15 for smartphone data. Everything is working great (including data), however I would like to upgrade my phone to the HTC One X. My question is: can I use a non-unlocked (locked to ATT) One X and just replace the sim card and still have everything work nicely like it does now? The phone I am looking at getting is one through amazon wireless which is $550 and locked to ATT's network. Thanks in advance for your help!

[Q] Running Rogers One X on AT&T?

I'm wondering if anyone already has, or knows if there are any issues taking a One X from Rogers and using it on AT&T? Maybe it's SIM locked to Rogers or something? I see you can buy the Rogers One X without a contract and am considering doing that to use it on AT&T in the states.
jnichols959 said:
I'm wondering if anyone already has, or knows if there are any issues taking a One X from Rogers and using it on AT&T? Maybe it's SIM locked to Rogers or something? I see you can buy the Rogers One X without a contract and am considering doing that to use it on AT&T in the states.
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Someone answered that question in my thread saying yes. And lte should work also. I might do this also since I just signed a contract for this phone so might as well return it and buy a rogers at full price
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bigballa said:
Someone answered that question in my thread saying yes. And lte should work also. I might do this also since I just signed a contract for this phone so might as well return it and buy a rogers at full price
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Thanks. I read the title of every Q&A post but only clicked through on those whose title indicated the subject I was asking about.
I just found a thread in General about using the Rogers phone on WIND and it seems pretty clear from reading it that the Rogers One X is SIM-locked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610323
It seems one could use something like http://www.cellunlocker.net/ to unlock it for $8... I'm just so, so, so disappointed that AT&T chose to disallow bootloader unlocking on their device while both the international and otherwise similar Rogers version can be bootloader unlocked just fine. I was thinking of getting a two year contract on AT&T, selling the unopened phone, then using that money to buy the no contract Rogers One X. Pay to SIM unlock it, add an AT&T APN and in theory I'll have an HTC One X running on AT&T LTE that can have it's bootloader unlocked.
LTE will work. As long as you have the LTE data plan and APN, you're good. I had an Optimus LTE from Bell and LTE was just fine when I was visiting family in Chicago in February.
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the phone has been rooted!
thats the main thing i cared about
i need Titanium haha
hopefully the bootloader unlock isnt too far away (6 months?)

Is it possible to flash from Boost to anything else? Sprint maybe?

Hi, My friend Joined Boost Mobile and they gave him an HTC One. He is not happy with Boost and is going to change carriers. He wants to know if he can flash his phone for another carrier like Sprint or Verizon or ATT or T-mobile or is he better off selling the phone on Ebay and getting a phone through his new carrier? Does this Boost phone even have a sim?? He says it doesn't.
Thanks for any input you can give.
HTC ONE?
unsatisfied?
boost is a CDMA carrier so no, it would not have a SIM
tell him I'll purchase it from him if he's serious about selling it.
flashing it to another carrier he would be limited to only CDMA carriers like Sprint or Verizon
AT&T is out of the question
and most likely whoever(if successful) he flashed the device to..... something would be broken
i.e. he might be able to get calls and text but would not be able to surf web without Wi-Fi or get mms.
unless he's a super developer/hacker it would be in his best interest to sell the device and buy another from a more satisfying carrier....(Verizon) is best in my opinion.......
let me know if he's up to selling to me, I'm not a cheapskate, but I'm not a moron either so keep the price fair..
#EDIT# are you sure it's not a HTC OneSV?
There is a guy who flashed a sprint Samsung S4 over to boost so he wouldn't be stuck on a contract lol. He was successful doing it. The guy posted a video on it over on YouTube. Pretty legit I thought .
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