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Is anyone aware of a plain vanilla stock Android ROM that can be used with the Sensation 4G? Basically I am looking for the "pure" Android experience that comes on the G2, G2x, etc but without the bloatware and that is unlocked. I know there are a number of other ROM's out there that people will claim are better, but I am more than happy to start clean (and stable!) and add what I want. Any suggestions? As good as some of the other ROM's surely are, I would prefer one that came directly from Google and can basically guarantee all functionality will work. Thoughts?
There are none yet, at least none that are fully functional. i guess you will have to wait some more weeks.
senseless extreme is 2.3.4 AOSP with some sense features (like the dialer, the people and sms apps etc. but there's very little trace of sense on the rom). give it a go, i 've tried it myself, seems ok, and the dev keeps it up to date i guess. once CyanogenMod 7.1 's available for the Sensation go try it, it will be your best guess closest to aosp + tweaks. best roms out there imo.
I've just flashed Senseless Extreme and it's great
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I havent yet found a stock AOSP ROM, is anyone else aware of one that has been released?
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I havent yet found a stock AOSP ROM, is anyone else aware of one that has been released?
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are you serious? thats what theyve been saying this whole post... what you're looking for doesn't exist at the moment.
Yes I am serious. I has been almost three weeks since I created this post (and asked the question) and a lot can happen in that period of time.
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Yes I am serious. I has been almost three weeks since I created this post (and asked the question) and a lot can happen in that period of time.
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A lot can happen, yes. But asking the same damn question shows your lack of respect for this community by not putting in your own legwork first to try and and answer your question.
Had you done your own legwork (instead of asking us to do it for you), you would find that the same aosp build in progress hasn't changed on the user end, but it seems they're making a lot of progress. But it's still not ready yet (and no eta as to when due to kernel.org being hacked and all associated git repos being shut down until further notice).
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geoffcorey said:
A lot can happen, yes. But asking the same damn question shows your lack of respect for this community by not putting in your own legwork first to try and and answer your question.
Had you done your own legwork (instead of asking us to do it for you), you would find that the same aosp build in progress hasn't changed on the user end, but it seems they're making a lot of progress. But it's still not ready yet (and no eta as to when due to kernel.org being hacked and all associated git repos being shut down until further notice).
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First, I am not asking the same question again. I simply replied to an existing thread checking for updates. Second, you clearly didnt read what I wrote or you decided to reply rudely anyway. I did the "legwork" and couldnt find an AOSP ROM on my own, so I wanted to see if anyone in this community was either working on one or was aware of one that hasnt yet gone mainstream.
The only thing that is an issue to me with these "senseless ROMS" is that when someone calls you, you must unlock the phone (with the stock android unlock screen) and only then can you click andswer phone. It is a limitation in all senseless or stock ROMS.
I too am waiting for Cyanogenmod
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The only thing that is an issue to me with these "senseless ROMS" is that when someone calls you, you must unlock the phone (with the stock android unlock screen) and only then can you click andswer phone. It is a limitation in all senseless or stock ROMS.
I too am waiting for Cyanogenmod
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Yeah, I have heard that (about senseless ROMs) from a number of people and thats why I am holding out for something better. Cyanogenmod should be good, but I figured a pure stock ROM would be released prior to that. I guess time will tell as to which comes first!
LupusHD2 said:
senseless extreme is 2.3.4 AOSP with some sense features (like the dialer, the people and sms apps etc. but there's very little trace of sense on the rom). give it a go, i 've tried it myself, seems ok, and the dev keeps it up to date i guess. once CyanogenMod 7.1 's available for the Sensation go try it, it will be your best guess closest to aosp + tweaks. best roms out there imo.
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Senseless Extreme is not AOSP, but probably the closest we have to AOSP at present.
Does anybody have a more specific eta for the update? HTC said it would be this month but it is almost over. Somebody enlighten me with anything?
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Well I unfortunately cannot enlighten you although I can say that month estimate would be for the international (Tegra). One X and for what I know it might be Christmas before AT&T or some other carrier releases jelly bean for the HTC One XL
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Thanks very much ;D still a great device
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ttinjust96 said:
Thanks very much ;D still a great device
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great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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Wow dude, you can help yourself can you?
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That's why there are developers and custom roms
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bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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You're free to switch to a different OEM, no one is stopping you... For the rest of us, we're more than happy to use custom ROMs, they're usually much better than any OEM's updates anyways.
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You're free to switch to a different OEM, no one is stopping you... For the rest of us, we're more than happy to use custom ROMs, they're usually much better than any OEM's updates anyways.
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Not quite true, for some devices the lack of update promotes devs to produce some great unique roms. Port updated versions of android to a device that would otherwise never receive it
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fungied.cheese said:
Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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One factor is by that time most devs have probably moved onwards to more current devices.
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fungied.cheese said:
Just out of honest curiosity, why is that?
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They can use the official updates as a base and then make their ROM from there. The official updates contain all the drivers and features and its easy to build up. Making ROMs from scratch is difficult to say the least.
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Just a side note, without official updates the amount of features working on custom ROMs starts to decline.
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Not quite... Having the OEM's official update makes creating custom ROMs MUCH easier, sure. But being easier doesn't make them better, in fact, its quite the opposite... The better custom ROMs come from being built off of the AOSP source, not from the OEM's source. ROMs built from the OEM's source will still have many of the official ROM's inherent flaws, which kinda defeats the purpose of custom ROMs to begin with (and the main reason why I haven't flashed anything onto my One X yet)... Then we have porting ROMs from other devices which is one of the main reasons why you see ROMs with missing features such as cameras, WiFi and so on, along with other bloat and garbage files/drivers that aren't needed for the device it's being ported onto, but may cause issues if removed completely whether its used or not.
The problem devs are facing now is that they're spread too thin throughout hundreds of devices, back in the HTC Dream/Tmobile G1 days, building ROMs from the AOSP source wasn't a problem because they were all working on the same device, and could pool their resources to turn out MUCH better, faster and stable ROMs at a MUCH faster pace... Today, that's seemingly impossible since there are so many great devices out there (and more being released every few months), not to mention the competition between devs for recognition and donations, which isn't good for the community as a whole... Devs simply cannot keep up, so instead of building off of AOSP (which takes longer), most of them build off of the official updated ROMs or ROMs ported from other devices to make things easier and have a faster turn around time. Not to mention there are many "devs" (and I use this term lightly) out there who simply copy and paste code around, add a few things here and there, add a launcher and theme, slap their name on it, call it a finished ROM and then ask for donations for all their "hard work" (again, using this term lightly), when in fact, all the hard work was already done by other devs... Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the work devs do for basically nothing in return, and have donated to many who deserved it, without them, we'd be at the mercy of OEMs, which is never a good thing (see iOS), but there's only so much they can do on their own, and with so many handsets on the market, it's very difficult to stay focused on a single handset for more than 6-8 months...
I Concur...
bloodrain954 said:
great device made by a joke of a company who clearly doesn't give a rats arse about keeping current customers
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After three HTC phones and seeing this same pattern, I will not be buying another HTC phone. I know AT&T is to blame too, but HTC was committed to build quality and dedication to less devices and more support. I haven't seen it to my level of satisfaction. Maybe I'm on the wrong carrier, I don't know...
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After three HTC phones and seeing this same pattern, I will not be buying another HTC phone. I know AT&T is to blame too, but HTC was committed to build quality and dedication to less devices and more support. I haven't seen it to my level of satisfaction. Maybe I'm on the wrong carrier, I don't know...
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Unless you get a nexus device then anywhere else you go this will be normal
Not directed at you.
We are in a forum about rooting and flashing custom ROMs, not about whining when will a release for new software come out forum.
So I suggest to start flashing custom ROMs and stop talking about this.
It will get released when it gets released, and no amount of anyone bashing carriers or whining will make it come sooner.
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Not quite true, for some devices the lack of update promotes devs to produce some great unique roms. Port updated versions of android to a device that would otherwise never receive it
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Exactly this. I came from the HTC Aria, who's last official update was 2.2. Currently, there are community built ICS and JB builds that are ~99% complete in terms of functionality.
I upgraded yesterday to the HTC OneX+ and it has the updated software that OneX will probably get soon and if I knew how to root this sucker and pull the RUU off I would be more than happy to oblige. Anyone familiar with this process can chime in and help pull it from my phone because it really is nice especially the custom options in stock.
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Unless you get a nexus device then anywhere else you go this will be normal
Not directed at you.
We are in a forum about rooting and flashing custom ROMs, not about whining when will a release for new software come out forum.
So I suggest to start flashing custom ROMs and stop talking about this.
It will get released when it gets released, and no amount of anyone bashing carriers or whining will make it come sooner.
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It's cool, I know what you are saying. I'm very grateful this community exists, and for brilliant developers that feed my addiction of flashing roms.
It's places like this that fill the gap between an OEM's product and our expectations.
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I upgraded yesterday to the HTC OneX+ and it has the updated software that OneX will probably get soon and if I knew how to root this sucker and pull the RUU off I would be more than happy to oblige. Anyone familiar with this process can chime in and help pull it from my phone because it really is nice especially the custom options in stock.
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It would be useless for you to do so, it has a completely different processor. And since we are due for an update soon our devs are just going to wait until its released to make a custom rom
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When I had an HTC Sensation, and an HTC HD2 I flashed a lot of different ROM's never wondering if I would have wifi-calling, because I had a flashable wifi-calling mod. Since coming to this device, there are really only one or two ROM's that have wifi-calling built in. I am in no way complaining, by the way... I appreciate whole heartedly the effort the DEV's put towards this device.
With that being said, would it be possible to flash the mod I have from the sensation on to this device, or would it brick it...?
I'll post the ZIP if needed.
I doubt it would brick it but I doubt it would work either. Wi-fi calling is now built into Sense so it's not as simple as it used to be. I used to keep that apk handy too...
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I just tried to flash it but it wouldn't do anything, kept saying ERROR 6.
Now I'm wondering if there's some way to extract the wifi-calling used in the Galaxy s3 (for example) and use it in a aosp, aokp, cm10 or other non-sense ROM.
I think I'll look into this, I want to get away from sense anyway, I'm really in love with the paranoid android rom.
We seem to have a great selection of other ROMs, from CM, AOKP, etc. but I never see just an AOSP ROM for this device. It would be great to compare the "Nexus Experience" for the Doubleshot, I think.
Well, technically Cyanogen Mod is the greatest AOSP ROM out there. As far as I know nobody writes anything from the ground up. At least if I understand how everything all goes together. Now, someone may very well use their base code & do all their own coding for add-ons & customizations but I'm not sure who or which ROM you may be talking about. My wife has a Nexus 4 so I have been browsing their forums but that's the way it seems to me.
Well you wouldn't port an aosp ROM as the base wouldn't be aosp, so it would need to be built from source if you want true aosp. This is of course much more complicated on a phone like this where there is no aosp source other than from the SDK, its doable but would require lots of hard work
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Well you wouldn't port an aosp ROM as the base wouldn't be aosp, so it would need to be built from source if you want true aosp. This is of course much more complicated on a phone like this where there is no aosp source other than from the SDK, its doable but would require lots of hard work
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SEE! I told ya I wasn't sure. LMAO! :laugh:
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Well you wouldn't port an aosp ROM as the base wouldn't be aosp, so it would need to be built from source if you want true aosp. This is of course much more complicated on a phone like this where there is no aosp source other than from the SDK, its doable but would require lots of hard work
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I would love to try this, and I've gone far enough to setup everything on my linux box. I got to the point of downloading the source files, and I'm not sure where to go from there. Reason being that I know that most of the phone sensors and components wont work without the proprietary drivers and other required software for the phone. I don't know where to find them, and if I managed to get them, how to integrate them into the source tree. I have looked through the developers reference thread, but not sure whats needed from there to get all the stuff needed.
I think I'm in over my head lol
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We seem to have a great selection of other ROMs, from CM, AOKP, etc. but I never see just an AOSP ROM for this device. It would be great to compare the "Nexus Experience" for the Doubleshot, I think.
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I gotta say, I only just got into the ROM bizness. Was running fully stock, locked GB rom on this phone until a few weeks ago. After some research and lots of reading through these forums I settled on the Unofficial CM 10.1 JB rom here, and absolutely love it. I can't believe what amazing crew of dev's we have here that are bringing new life to this great hardware, but unsupported handset!
Suffice to say it's been my ONLY other experience compared to stock, but I'm using it as a daily driver with nearly no issues, and some have even been fixed since my first flash a few weeks ago. Can't thank this forum enough. Now if only I could post in the development forums without having to make 9 more BS posts I'd be a happy camper!
Ok, so I'm not a tech pro. But molding my gadgets is becoming a hobby. I've learned unlocking and rooting.. I've started flashing ROMs and mods to stock roms.
Now I'm wondering, what's the difference between ROMs like pure AOKP vs ROMs based on other original roms like AOKP?
For example, I'm using Smoothrom on my grouper nexus 7 to boost performance/reduce lag/etc. It is a 4.3 Jellybean ROM based on AOKP. What is the difference v the AOKP ROM? added features baked in? Bugs within Aokp fixed?
This is question is just for knowledge sake, so please don't criticize any biases or wrong assumptions apparent in the language of the question. Please do address any inaccuracies or biases/assumptions that you notice. Like I said, this is just for me to better understand the motivation/benefits/risks/purposes behind roms like AOKP v AOKP Based (slimrom).
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Okay basically everything that's made from scratch or source is pure. Roms that mention they are based on these so called "aosp" "aokp" is pretty much the same thing as the one built from source but its been modified, for example cyanogenmod is built from source, if you download it and modify the ROM, enhance it a bit more, add more features you will have to say it is based on cm as you didn't build it from source or scratch. You used the ROM as a base for your project. Like something you can start from.
Its like a car. A person that owns a car and modifies it, but its based on the original. The original is initially made by scratch. I hope I made sense. Sounded better in my head
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Okay basically everything that's made from scratch or source is pure. Roms that mention they are based on these so called "aosp" "aokp" is pretty much the same thing as the one built from source but its been modified, for example cyanogenmod is built from source, if you download it and modify the ROM, enhance it a bit more, add more features you will have to say it is based on cm as you didn't build it from source or scratch. You used the ROM as a base for your project. Like something you can start from.
Its like a car. A person that owns a car and modifies it, but its based on the original. The original is initially made by scratch. I hope I made sense. Sounded better in my head
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Thank you. Completely makes sense. I guess that's why forums usually have two sections "original development" and Android based development."
Question for anyone:
Are those that are based on something like CM usually and improvement on CM in terms of bugs, etc or is it more just a preference in terms of features?
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yogi217 said:
Thank you. Completely makes sense. I guess that's why forums usually have two sections "original development" and Android based development."
Question for anyone:
Are those that are based on something like CM usually an improvement on CM in terms of bugs, etc or is it more just a preference in terms of features?
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It really depends, some add in more features, some remove features and make is clean. In you way you could say its an improvement but its up to the user as they are the ones that judge it themselves. Some bugs get fixed in the nodded Roms that use cm as base, like I said its all up to the user that mods the ROM. If they want to fix it themselves or wait for a new release.
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It really depends, some add in more features, some remove features and make is clean. In you way you could say its an improvement but its up to the user as they are the ones that judge it themselves. Some bugs get fixed in the nodded Roms that use cm as base, like I said its all up to the user that mods the ROM. If they want to fix it themselves or wait for a new release.
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Thank you. That's what I was thinking, but wanted to make sure. I'm digging this culture. I'm a teacher and interested in independent learning and the support of the online community in mobile software modding and development is very interesting from a learning perspective.
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@yogi217 It actually is quite interesting. I'm sure you'll understand quite a bit about android development in some time. It isn't that hard, just explore and youll come to a point and find out how easy it is. And good luck on your android/mobile development journey!
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