No 4G - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am sitting at local mall with my wife. She had stock NS4G, and is getting 4G signal. I am rooted. See screenshot. I can't get 4G. Not sure what is wrong.
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I don't think any 4.2 ROM supports WiMAX yet.
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I can connect on 4G with HP420's version.
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Works on every 4.2 and 4.2.1 ROM I've tried...
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I know! if the1dynasty didn't have 4g, we'd be hearing bout it!
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You checked out the phone testing menu yet? *#*#4636#*#*

You didn't wipe wimax in recovery did you?
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Not sure if i wiped wimax. I just did *#*#4636#*#* and preferred network shows as unknown. Ping test shows WCDMA then goes to unknown.
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ludvball said:
Not sure if i wiped wimax. I just did *#*#4636#*#* and preferred network shows as unknown. Ping test shows WCDMA then goes to unknown.
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If it were me, I'd go back to stock by flashing the factory images. That should restore the 4g stuff that may have been wiped.
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p1gp3n said:
If it were me, I'd go back to stock by flashing the factory images. That should restore the 4g stuff that may have been wiped.
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So, I guess I will flash to stock. Verify 4G, and then I should be able to go back to Rasbeanjelly ROM? I switched to it earlier this week and love how fast it is compared to anything else I have used. Where is the best place to download the stock ROM?
Thanks for the help.

ludvball said:
So, I guess I will flash to stock. Verify 4G, and then I should be able to go back to Rasbeanjelly ROM? I switched to it earlier this week and love how fast it is compared to anything else I have used. Where is the best place to download the stock ROM?
Thanks for the help.
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I just restored a back up from June. I still don't seem to have 4G, but have spotty coverage in my office. I will check coverage when I leave today. If this is no good, where is the best place to get a stock ROM to flash to?

Still no 4G. I flashed to 'One Click Stock.crespo4g.4.1.1.zip'. I still don't have 4G. I am not sure what to do now. Is there a flash for WiMax?

ludvball said:
Still no 4G. I flashed to 'One Click Stock.crespo4g.4.1.1.zip'. I still don't have 4G. I am not sure what to do now. Is there a flash for WiMax?
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Flash the factory image from Google through fastboot -- I assume that you have fastboot working
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
This explains how to do it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1572307

I just went back to factory settings using the following guide: http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...39-guide-restore-stock-unroot-nexus-s-4g.html I still don't have 4G. I guess the only option is to see if Sprint can fix it.

I also saw that my SDcard was not wiped. I figured a full restore back to stock would have wiped the SD card. Any thoughts on what I should do before taking it to Sprint?

ludvball said:
I also saw that my SDcard was not wiped. I figured a full restore back to stock would have wiped the SD card. Any thoughts on what I should do before taking it to Sprint?
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No going to stock doesn't wipe SD. I would back the SD all up on your computer then format through computer (this is just good to do every once and a while...it will make your phone fly ). Since you are stock just stay stock and unrooted before going to Sprint. :good:

Should have my replacement phone on Friday.

Got my new phone. Confirmed 4g. Spent the day trying to get it rooted and up to 4.2.1. I have had no luck. I tried multiple rooting scripts. Each time I get the phone rooted, but am unable to install another ROM. It looks like something with TWRP. I made sure TWRP was updated. Now I was going back to stock to give up, since I seem to be all thumbs today. In the process, I got hung up. Now when i reboot, it hangs on the Google splashscreen. I can get to fastboot, but can't get to recovery....that gets me green android on his back with red triangle. I was fine rooting and unrooting my old phone.
I tried Nexus Root Toolkit to get back to stock when it locked up on me.
Please help.

Whenever i totally screw up my phone, i use this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15628028
Then i use this to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14143130
Some of that might be outdated... But it worked last time i used it... After all done, it will put you on unlocked boot loader, rooted, 2.3.7 GB, with clockworkmod recovery... I've never used twrp because cwm always worked fine for me!!
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I was able to get back to stock. SU and busybox installed. Up and running on the Stock 4.1.1 ROM, rooted. I am still unable to flash to another ROM.
Getting the following:
E:Error installing zip file '/sdcard/goomanager/
Done processing script file
Copied Recovery log to /sdcard
Installing '/sdcard/goomanager/rascarlo_crespo4g
Checking for MD5 file....
Skipping MD% check: no MD5 file found.
assert failed: getprop("ro.product.device") == "
E:Error in /sdcard/goomanager/rascarlo_crespo4g-
(Status 7)
Error flashing zip '/sdcard/goomanager/rascarlo_
Updating partition details...
Not sure what i am doing wrong. I used Wugs Nexus Toolkit for Root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984849 The ROOT process hung up at TWRP, so I manually finished the install of CWM-SuperSU-v0.98, Busybox-signed and perm-recovery-signed
I guess for now I will stay on this ROM. When I get some more free time, I will try using the steps the1dynasty provided. I am learning a lot.

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[q] wifi "error"

No matter what ROM/Kernel I flash to i loose my WIFI access. When I go into settings/Wifi it just says ERROR. Anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
With CM7.0.3.1, I have been using bcblends tinyrcu (available through kernel manager) and leave min/max as is (806max/245min) make sure you wipe cache/dalvik before installing the kernel...
Hope this works for you.
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When it does that is your SD card not mounted anymore and requires a reboot for it to see it again? That happens to me smetimes
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lilgrass71 said:
When it does that is your SD card not mounted anymore and requires a reboot for it to see it again? That happens to me smetimes
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SD card should be mounted. It's only unmounted when I plug my phone to the computer to transfer files and such...
Same thing happens to me with kernels. Sometimes Wimax too. I'm using mik shift, works fine with stock kernel.
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Maybe its just my luck w cards... been running cm7 stables and had two 8 giggers die one me... one kingston class 4 and a sandisk class 6... its happening again on my last 8 gigger too!
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I have a regular evo with this same problem, tried 3 dif kernals, and upteen romflashes.... still have wifi error in settings
still no progress on this, i still have this problem... super gay
I too am getting an "Error" when trying to turn wifi, Logcat says " Wifi Driver missing" have tried rebooting, and flashing another rom. any help?
Well it's probably been said before, but here goes When you flash a new Rom make sure you do a FULL wipe. It's seems trivial, but not doing this can and usually does cause all kinds off issues. Also, you should check your WiFi settings, and make sure they're correct.
Full wipe has been done and what wifi settings are you talking about? phone settings can't be accessed because the phone can't turn wifi "on". is it possible to extract the wifi driver from another shift? i have another one at my disposal. BTW wifi was working a day ago no problem. i havn't flashed a new ROM in months and was on a stock rooted rom.
Have you tried to ruu back to stock to see if you have the same issue? Or nandroid back to a version where it worked?
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yea ruu'd back to froyo, re-rooted and reinstalled updated radios, and am back to gb. any idea where the wifi drivers would be? thanks for the replies.
Have you just tried it from a stock froyo rom? RUU back to 2.2 and just try it from there. It should reflash all the proper radios. Maybe the wifi chip is defective in the phone too. It happened at work to a co-workers playbook.
lvpre said:
Have you just tried it from a stock froyo rom? RUU back to 2.2 and just try it from there. It should reflash all the proper radios. Maybe the wifi chip is defective in the phone.
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+1 on that. Also if it was working then not. Something else might be up, are other devices able to connect to that WiFi spot with no issues? It is possible to extract the wifi driver from another SHift. But if you just RUU back to stock it should work. If not somethingelse is definately wrong. To get to the settings: Menu-Settings-Wireless & Networks-Wi-Fi settings-menu-Avanced.
yea went ruu'd back to stock, no dice. wifi just says "error" after "turning on", must be an internal problem. other devices work fine on this point. what would be the steps to extracting the driver from another shift, i have one ready to go.
If you RUU'd back to stock, and it's a still no good. Then you might want to consider getting a replacement if WiFi is really important to you. Especially if you know for sure that other devices can connect, and you cannot on a stock Rom. But you do risk getting an updated Shift. Not a risk worth taking in my eyes. Did you make sure and check all the settings?
Yea all the settings are good, it definitely seems to be an internal problem at this point. I'm weighing the options right now and came close to ruu'ing to gb to see if it solved the problem, but I just couldn't give up root.
only 2 things come to mind on what caused this, i attempted to update to the newest ota htc update over the stock rom, ( i know stupid, got the android + !) and i installed an app to transfer files over wifi.
Wifi isn't too important but I hate the feeling of not having my phone %100.
Same problem here. I just got a wifi-error running the latest shift-deck. The phone was brand new with a bad esn (planning to flash to a different carrier) and was first turned on 8/2/11. so basically 2 weeks turned on. This just happened 2 days ago. Cleared everything and flashed again. Don't know how to RUU or what it is. Anyone want to explain?
Ruu basically puts the phone back as if it were just out of the box. There is a thread somewhere here with the file. Just make sure you get the froyo version, otherwise you won't be able to root.
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[Rom][ODIN] Stock Gingerbread 2.3.3 Deodexed + Root KF2

Some people have requested this, this is Gingerbread KF2 Deodexed + Root and odin flashable.
This contains all bloat.
Instructions:
1. Perform Factory Data Reset/Wipe Data (If you skip this step it may still work but may leave existing apps and may cause FC's)
2. Flash Via Odin
3. Wait 5min to boot
4. Hit Thanks
The messed up Rainbow at boot is normal if using Froyo BootLoaders just wait it will boot.
Below File contains no BOOTLOADERS
T959VUVKF2 NO BOOTLOADERS
Thanks
Dr.Honk for answering all my stupid questions.
Krylon360 for original KF2 leak
nice dude!!!
Been looking for this. Might be enough to make me give KF2 a try finally.
Thanks.
Nice up man
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If I apply this (without manually doing a factory reset along the way), will I retain all of my apps and app data through this process?
I know I've used ODIN to update to the current stock release and used ODIN on my Vibrant and didn't lose my apps and app data.
Yes, there was some people in another thread that said you ALWAYS lose data when you update. I know they are wrong, but not sure what the case is with this particular update.
Does that fact that it's deodexed make it less likely that the data will be retained?
just flashed and waited 15 minutes on the rainbow screen, flashed again,same thing. how long does it take to boot the first time?
lexluthor said:
If I apply this (without manually doing a factory reset along the way), will I retain all of my apps and app data through this process?
I know I've used ODIN to update to the current stock release and used ODIN on my Vibrant and didn't lose my apps and app data.
Yes, there was some people in another thread that said you ALWAYS lose data when you update. I know they are wrong, but not sure what the case is with this particular update.
Does that fact that it's deodexed make it less likely that the data will be retained?
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This will erase all apps, you need to use titanium backup first if you want to save that stuff.
Do I place in pda or phone in odin
My Fon is the shizz'nic!
Tommyboy2k said:
Do I place in pda or phone in odin
My Fon is the shizz'nic!
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place in pda
punkkloser said:
just flashed and waited 15 minutes on the rainbow screen, flashed again,same thing. how long does it take to boot the first time?
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try hitting the power button quickly it should loop once then work.
which bootloaders are you on?
froyo bootloaders. will try it again.....
K. running smooth now,will test more tommorrow.
I see the wifi signal is weak,as with the previous rom
Strangely enough I have the froyo bootloaders, flashed this, got an upgrade failure to which got me to that annoying ass screen rom upgrade failed, so I tried it again, it was successful, but oddly not only did I not get the rainbow screen but I booted with all my apps and everything intact but confirm that I am now at 2.3.3 by su binary had gotten downgraded to 2 from the ,3 beta I had had and I was coming from the KD1 rom.... Anyway strange I know....
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aestivalisakito said:
Strangely enough I have the froyo bootloaders, flashed this, got an upgrade failure to which got me to that annoying ass screen rom upgrade failed, so I tried it again, it was successful, but oddly not only did I not get the rainbow screen but I booted with all my apps and everything intact but confirm that I am now at 2.3.3 by su binary had gotten downgraded to 2 from the ,3 beta I had had and I was coming from the KD1 rom.... Anyway strange I know....
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That's strange I wonder if its not clearing everything before flashing. I will look into this.
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Flashed last night no problem, but now my phone wont register to my tmobile network.
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Thanks my friend!
My Fon is the shizz'nic!
Like I said, weird as hell but no issues and its running beautifully..... Shrugs....im not going to argue lol
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anyone else having issues registering to there network? ive flashed 3 times now and still cant register to my tmobile network.
dj02 said:
anyone else having issues registering to there network? ive flashed 3 times now and still cant register to my tmobile network.
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What were you running prior to this flash?
If you are having troubles with this flash please give more info, what rom did you have before, what bootloaders are you using? Any info helps so that I can narrow down any issues and fix them.
Thanks.
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corradokng said:
What were you running prior to this flash?
If you are having troubles with this flash please give more info, what rom did you have before, what bootloaders are you using? Any info helps so that I can narrow down any issues and fix them.
Thanks.
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had the fully stock gb rom that shipped with the phone. i was able to flash with no problems, just cant get it to connect to the network just keeps saying searching, wifi calling and txting work just fine.
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oh right after i did the flash, i did do sgs unlock pro app. not sure if that would of caused any problems but it looks like my IMEI is showing up as .[]x[]~ ".[]x[]~
I was having issues with this version and getting stuck on samsung screen a whole lot; and i'm talking about i started clean with KC1 full with .pit>whitehawkxKD1+root>then this rom.
tried the other route and odined back to KD1>boot into cwm>checked mount and flashed the cwm version. worked flawlessly; except the rainbow, ofcourse.
my recommendations are quiet obvious
dj02 said:
Flashed last night no problem, but now my phone wont register to my tmobile network.
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try toggling airplane mode on & off.

[Q] NS4G - 4G Stopped Working

I have had a Nexus S 4G for about 2 months now, and earlier today, the 4G functionality just suddenly stopped working. It was working fine, and the connection dropped, so I went into the settings to reconnect, and now it just stays on "Initializing".
I was running the 8/31 nightly build of CM7 at the time.
I have tried the following, to no avail:
Reboot
Flash a different CM7 build
Update Profile/PRL
Wipe cache/dalvik cache
Nandroid backup, full wipe, flash stock ROM
At first I thought it might be a problem with Sprint, but my sister said 4G works just fine on her Evo, so I'm thinking it's a problem with my phone.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I could do to fix this, or should I just return it to Sprint and exchange it? I've had it for less than 90 days so it should still be under warranty.
Is your sister at the same location?
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Yes she is.
Based on what you have said, there isn't anything that should have caused 4g to stop working. I would take it to Sprint and see what they say. Unrooted of course
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Update on the situation...
In preparation for returning it to Sprint, I "unrooted" it following instructions I found on AndroidCenteral (basically downloading the GRJ22 build images and flashing those via fastboot). Strangely enough, that fixed the issue.
I've now rooted it again and am back on CM7 with no problems. Just to ensure the problem wasn't a file in the backup, I'm reinstalling everything rather than restoring a backup.
Still have no clue what the problem was, but it's working now.
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Update on the situation...
In preparation for returning it to Sprint, I "unrooted" it following instructions I found on AndroidCenteral (basically downloading the GRJ22 build images and flashing those via fastboot). Strangely enough, that fixed the issue.
I've now rooted it again and am back on CM7 with no problems. Just to ensure the problem wasn't a file in the backup, I'm reinstalling everything rather than restoring a backup.
Still have no clue what the problem was, but it's working now.
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Glad you got it fixed
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Download failed. Content not supported on phone.

Im trying to download a rom so I can flash it to my wifes phone. I have the zipfolder on my laptop but for some reason when I put it on the SD card it doesn't show when I go into recovery. I flashed my phone by downloading the link straight to my phone. Im trying on hers but I keep getting download failed content is not supported on the phone. I even tried to download just a pic online and the download failed. Am I missing a setting on the phone or what? I downloaded astro and any file download because I read that it may fix it but it doesn't. Thanks for yalls help.
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Make sure you're putting it on the internal SD. Not sure that you can access the external in recovery.
As for the download failed, try using a different browser such as dolphin browser HD. I used to run into similar problems downloading stuff with the stock browser, but never with dolphin.
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Thanks for the reply. I just tried dolphin-browser and download failed due to not enough memory. The phone was factory reset just before so all the SD cards and internal storage are fresh. And when I tried from the computer I pit it in the space that pops up when I select to view the phones files. External SD is listed so I know it not going on there. I could work around that like I did on my phone if I could figure out why hers won't download anything (besides market apps, it downloads them fine) its aggravating to say the least.
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I always download androzip my phone always needs a program that will open zips to download a zip file from the web androzip or rom manager will work
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I have rom manager already and tried astro and any file download. So far nothing. It won't even downloaded a picture.
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Hmmm not sure then have you tried factory resetting again maybe something normed during the process
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I'll try that again. I guess its been like that since she got it.
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Thanks for suggesting the reset again. She can download from the browser now at least. Im gonna try to reroot and flash the rom again hopefully you don't hear back from me on this subject lol.
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Glad it worked
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OK so now I downloaded miui 1.12.23 to the phone, wide cache and data, installed from SD, rebooted, bootlooped at Samsung logo, pulled battery back to recovery, installed again, bootloops again. When I installed from SD the zip was under downloads. Is that the problem? Should I be able to get back to stock rooted from recovery, or do I have to Odin back? Thanks guys. I swear im about ready to give up on this phone!
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guitarman16 said:
OK so now I downloaded miui 1.12.23 to the phone, wide cache and data, installed from SD, rebooted, bootlooped at Samsung logo, pulled battery back to recovery, installed again, bootloops again. When I installed from SD the zip was under downloads. Is that the problem? Should I be able to get back to stock rooted from recovery, or do I have to Odin back? Thanks guys. I swear im about ready to give up on this phone!
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That's the folder I flash from all the time can you still get into recovery?? If so try formatting system and reflashing its in mounts and storage
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OK so I pull the battery, use three button till Samsung logo comes up and let go. Should it be blue recovery? Then format system and reflash from SD?
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Couldn't get recovery back so I used Odin. Maybe her phone just won't take. Or more than likely im just retarded.
E* I did get hers to take an old version of infused and tried to flash miui over that like I did mine from cw but it stuck on Samsung, I pulled batter tried to reflash, hung on logo again but couldn't get back to recovery that time.
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I'm not sure what's going on maybe a bad download of miui try redownloading it there is a newer update so.maybe try the new one
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Should I have to rename the zip or just leave it as shorticut on the end of it?
E* Nm I'm a bonehead. I was sending the zip to desktop and it was making it a shortcut. I finally woke the hell up and moved it straight from the folder to the SD. Trial and error I guess. Thanks for your patience.
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haha its always something glad you got it working

[QANDA] for the ICS base Rom by The Collective.

Also good for general purpose.
here is the main thread
[ROM]*ICS *solid base-glitch free (3/30) for development <The Collective>
we may discuss things here!
Thank you for understanding and helping
Doc I am ready for some how to's!!!!!!!!!!!!
been trying to install this rom, but for some reason keep getting boot loop, went ahead and restored and tried again but same boot loop. currently on Sky-ICS 2.3.6, any suggestions
"Do not do any wiping or formating or resets before or after the flash."
-Why? I am used to using darksides wipe before flashing any roms.
orlandoxpolice said:
"Do not do any wiping or formating or resets before or after the flash."
-Why? I am used to using darksides wipe before flashing any roms.
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your also used to roms rom that only delete recursive pn partitions.
This is diffternt.
Non of that wiping stuff was ever nessary on my captivate.
And now...not here.
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dragonfuego said:
been trying to install this rom, but for some reason keep getting boot loop, went ahead and restored and tried again but same boot loop. currently on Sky-ICS 2.3.6, any suggestions
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tested.
It works.
U must either not be following direction
Or have a bad download
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QUESTION= who is the man
ANSWER= Johnsondr80
I just tried it coming from GB NexusMod 4 and just got the boot loop as well. It is a little tricky getting back into recovery - you only get about a second in the CWM menu before the phone spontaneously reboots.
sacberg said:
I just tried it coming from GB NexusMod 4 and just got the boot loop as well. It is a little tricky getting back into recovery - you only get about a second in the CWM menu before the phone spontaneously reboots.
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Performed it fine here with zero issue.
If your cwm is acting up, may be lot more going on here.
I suggest a return to stock
Reflash cwm
Then flash this build.
Wish I could say more but UN able to see or confirm your issue.
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Tmo
Hey, great base.
I have flashed this, the leak and a few other ics roms. On this rom I cannot get my phone to hook up to tmo 4g, edge works fine, but it wont jump from edge to 4g. I tried flashing a tmo radio but no dice.
The leak worked fine in that regard. Consistently connected to highest available signal.
what can I tweak in order to re-establish connection to tmo 4g.
I tried to go into mobile network settings and all of the settings there seem consistent with the stock tmo settings. But when i try to change network operator settings from automatic to manual it never gets past "searching"
Thanks for any help you might be able to lend
Also, i think this guy should credit The Collective.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574675
From what I'm looking at, its very similar
All good. Found out how to make it work
chasport said:
Hey, great base.
I have flashed this, the leak and a few other ics roms. On this rom I cannot get my phone to hook up to tmo 4g, edge works fine, but it wont jump from edge to 4g. I tried flashing a tmo radio but no dice.
The leak worked fine in that regard. Consistently connected to highest available signal.
what can I tweak in order to re-establish connection to tmo 4g.
I tried to go into mobile network settings and all of the settings there seem consistent with the stock tmo settings. But when i try to change network operator settings from automatic to manual it never gets past "searching"
Thanks for any help you might be able to lend
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chasport said:
All good. Found out how to make it work
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Thanks. Just got in and saw this mind sharing so others can learn from your experince?
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