[Q] Best Starter Android Device - General Questions and Answers

Before anyone accuses me of not searching... I already saw http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797411 and it hasn't been posted in for 2 years.
With that said, I have a handful of employees in my office here who have asked me about some of the recent Android devices that have come out.
All of them are Apple users and are self professed fanboys who admit they enjoy being spoon fed technology. BUT... they have all watched how productive I am using only my HTC Thunderbolt running ICS... something they have to use their iPhone, iPad AND Macbooks to keep up with me... even our owner asked why he never saw me on my laptop in meetings and projects like all the others were... and now they all want to capture what I have managed to do with one little device.
I know I could order some Nexus 4s and call it a day but I know that is asking for trouble with Apple users... I have already watched a few struggle and return their Galaxy Note IIs after a few days of use.
So with that in mind, and given I CANNOT spend all day every day training them on a new device, does anyone have any recommendations on a specific device that will not spook the iAdults? Or a resource like an app or website that will help them get through the basics without me shadowing them the entire time?
I am looking for simple and productive vs. a powerhouse for these guys... just something to ease them into Android before I pitch the move to a Nexus product. For now all they need is email, the Lync application and some quality video playback so I can take their iPads away. If I can make that transition smooth... I am sure I can raise their level of technology prowess and unlock them from super expensive Apple products they do not really need.
Thanks!

IMHO Nexus should be preferred because of pure vanilla experience.
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best android starting device is the droid incredible. simple and perfectly sized. best phone ever made for its time

Any new Motorola droids or nexus4. Nexus should be easy. I got my (then) 8 yr old sister out of apples grasp with a nexus device and she'll never go back to icrap.
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I don't know, wouldn't configuring simple things for them on *any* decent Android phone work? I guess I don't personally see a big difference in usability since they're all pretty much the same, using the same exact concepts.
This is my first Android phone and I've already taught my mom - who has never had a smartphone, and doesn't really understand her computer, to use an android tablet - and she's doing fine.
If they're not willing to spend five minutes learning how to use it, it's not going to work no matter what you do. :/ My dad went from a flip phone to a high-end Android phone. It's really not that hard - they need to just be open to learning.
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True any phone will be as easy as the next. But if they are coming from icrap I say go nexus because they are use to getting updates as soon as they are released. Plus aosp is extremely bare and simple. Tw or sense have a lot of bloat and crap most people don't need.
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galaxy s3 sohuld be the best starting phone for androidP

Gs3 are great. Gotta love NFC sharing.
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I think an HTC j butterfly , sense is very user friendly and has tons of useful widjet for work, with a great mail and tasks app, the 1080p screen will be perfect for films and other stuff, plus HTC device's screens have very similir iphone's display calibration, the 5inch will be great for e-mail and webrowsing but not too big like the note 2, expandable memory so they can easily transfer files and they get also 50gb of dropbox free space and last but not least an integretion with the 'HTC media link hd' that could help(search it yourself on Google).
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I'll recommend Samsung galaxy S3. Mark my words, You will stick to it...

The new Evo 4G LTE is very nice. Big screen, thin, light, and runs really well. My wife got one for a work phone and she loves it.

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The new Evo 4G LTE is very nice. Big screen, thin, light, and runs really well. My wife got one for a work phone and she loves it.
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i would personally recommend this as well.

Galaxy Nexus has no peers. Always has the most updated OS. Super dependable and a great way to learn Droid.
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I suppose the Nexus "whatever is current" would be the way to go since vanilla android shenanigans. Had an SGS3, really enjoyed it (first time I ever had a top-o-line device at the time it was at its peak). Currently have a note2, and I really do think it is a median for a smartphone/tablet. IMO, it is THAT much better than a SGS3. It functions the same as any other quality/or better android device, AND it has the s-pen and a larger screen to feel comfortable to do more with.
I have not ever been one for tablets really, as I have a laptop and decent size smartphone, the Note2 makes it even more reason to leave the tabs to everyone else. Better screen, better ppi, less costly (only buying one device vs 2).
Not to say there is much experience necessary for using a (cr)apple or ios powered device, if one is semi-capable at using it the leap to android is not that far off. Of course, things have their "getting used to" but once the power is unleashed and the people that can grasp the capabilities do, it is an amazing thing.
Yes, you can use a stylus and such with S3 or other comperable device, but the fact that it comes with one. And even buying retail price is cheaper than an iPHail phone and or tab.

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Anyone ditched the iphone4 for the NS?

Just as the title says really, interested to know if any of you have dropped your iPhone4 in favour of the Nexus S and if so are you happy with your choice?
I have a reason for asking this and it's for neither iPhone or Nexus bashing purposes
My brother did. He is loving the NS.
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I did. Reasons: tmobile promo data plan 1500 min, unl texts and data for 80.00 month.
Also love android. That being said, I miss media features and games of iOS. Also things I hate about att is the fact that you can't download a file bigger than 10 mb olvia 3g or the fact that youtube quality suck on 3g. And all of that after fork out 30 dollars a month. On t mobile you don't have any of those restrictions and you pay the same.
I decided to vote with my wallet ant give my money to tmobile ans google/ samsung.
Like I said, I really miss ios media features but I'm trying to live without ios. I understand that my reqsoning has more to do with carrier itslef rather than iphone 4, but all those things I mentioned above as a whole made me switch to nexus s and tmobile.
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One reason I almost did is I really liked the TV tube effect when you press the sleep button. Instead I ported it to the iPhone ;-) Watch here:
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I did. Between the plan price and gingerbread I can say I'm totally satisfied.
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I switched over from iPhone 4 and Rogers (kinda like ATT even in terms of pricing) to the Nexus S on Mobilicity (40$ unlimited everything plan) but I kinda wish I hadn't now. Main reason is that I used to use FaceTime ALL THE TIME on my iPhone 4 and expected Google to back the Nexus S up with some kinda of video chat but they didnt and Tango is lacking...
may not be the same thing, but a friend of mine has an iPhone4 and i let him play around with my phone for a lil and he loves it, wishes he could switch
Thanks all, reason I ask is that I was considering going the other way! IPhone as stock would be a definite no but a jailbroken iPhone is another ball game.
Carrier aside, I'm buying sim free so its the £430 Nexus S I currently have or return and buy the £500 iPhone 4.
Really can't make up my mind!
why do you need to ask other people to give you an oppinon, im sure you can formulate your own.
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why do you need to ask other people to give you an oppinon, im sure you can formulate your own.
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Please don't get defensive just because I mentioned I MAY prefer the iPhone 4.
I'm not asking for anyone's opinion on whether I should switch, I'm asking those that HAVE switched (albeit the other way) if they are happy with their decisions.
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Please don't get defensive just because I mentioned I MAY prefer the iPhone 4.
I'm not asking for anyone's opinion on whether I should switch, I'm asking those that HAVE switched (albeit the other way) if they are happy with their decisions.
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Im not getting offended, ive owned iPhones in the past, but what im saying is that, your asking people if they have switched and what reasons, everyone has there own opinion on the devices, why not formulate your own,
there reasons/opinions may not reflect how you feel. Chances are if your debating on switching thats enough of a reason to go and get yourself a iPhone
I did and love it. I was expecting to miss the fluidity of iOS, but Gingerbread has surprised me despite the improvements I knew it had made in this area.
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your asking people if they have switched and what reasons, everyone has there own opinion on the devices, why not formulate your own,
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No, I am asking people if they have switched and if they are happy that they did so, I'm not asking for (or interested in) reasons and I am not asking specifically for opinions of either device.
Most people who have replied to this thread so far have understood my question, thankfully.
The Nexus S is a great device and I have barely touched my laptop in the time I have had it. The iPhone also has its merits and like anything its all swings and roundabouts!
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One reason I almost did is I really liked the TV tube effect when you press the sleep button. Instead I ported it to the iPhone ;-) Watch here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIfSrPA6j6U
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You were going to base your decision of switching based on a small effect
ranxoren said:
I switched over from iPhone 4 and Rogers (kinda like ATT even in terms of pricing) to the Nexus S on Mobilicity (40$ unlimited everything plan) but I kinda wish I hadn't now. Main reason is that I used to use FaceTime ALL THE TIME on my iPhone 4 and expected Google to back the Nexus S up with some kinda of video chat but they didnt and Tango is lacking...
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Fascinating. Obviously, you have friends and family with Mac's but you are the first person I've read that uses FT all the time. You came to rely on it that much?
I switched from iphone 3g to ns, and am living it.theres nothing major that I could on iphone that I can't do on ns. internationalization support (japanese) ime sucks on android, you have to rely on 3rd party support, but otherwise I'm very happy. love the notifications and tight google integration.
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I just got the NS as my first smartphone after reading about various devices for a while (and not having a new phone in like 4 years), and so far I'm just stunned by the transition from my old dumbphone. My final choice was between the iPhone and the NS, as I see both as being comparatively high end phones for the two OS's. A buddy of mine has the iPhone 4, which I played around with for a while, but I ultimately went with the NS because the general user experience doesn't feel so controlled. That said, as a smartphone newbie, I think they're both really impressive devices.
Also, my old carrier was ATT, and they were starting to annoy me for various reasons.
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Didn't ditch the iPhone, but ditched ATT for T-Mobile's more reasonably priced plans.
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One reason I almost did is I really liked the TV tube effect when you press the sleep button. Instead I ported it to the iPhone ;-) Watch here:
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thats a very nice. i will buy it if it can do this effect on the lock screen.
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Im not getting offended, ive owned iPhones in the past, but what im saying is that, your asking people if they have switched and what reasons, everyone has there own opinion on the devices, why not formulate your own,
there reasons/opinions may not reflect how you feel. Chances are if your debating on switching thats enough of a reason to go and get yourself a iPhone
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first of all. its nice to have people feedback. thats why these forum exists. sure everyone can formulate on his own. we are not stupid. try to get that. and try to understand that its a actually a smart thing to do to ask for people feedback before making your own. thats why its called feedback. maybe you can provide X Y points why you didnt or why you did switch etc. and the user find it valuable information where he agrees with you. dont act like a smart ass who knows everything.
to stay on topic. no i didnt . i had galaxy S and i sold it for iphone 4. simply because i think the ios is more polished device out of the box. with cydia its amazing phone. i play like a 2 hours at least of games on mobile these days so that was a plus for the iphone. plus the device it self as hardware look sexier in my eyes than galaxy S or nexus S " just personal, other people might not agree"
what i miss tho is the bigger screen of android 4 inch compared to 3.5.
also. i am waiting for CES, its in few days. many of the new phones are going to be annouced in that show. it will be intresting to see.
and on the another hand. this month the LG optimus 2x coming out. while i know its an LG device. it also has much superior hardware than nexus S. aka dual core processor. tegra 2 gpu from nvidia and 1080p video recording.
my advise is to you or to anyone who didnt buy the nexus S. is to wait. see whats coming, then decide. the only reason you would want a nexus S is if u want pure google experiance. and to get updates as soon as they come out " even tho this is bull****. nexus 1 was said to be also pure google experiance to get updates as soon google get them out. and yet, they still didnt get 2.3 . i assume the same thing will happen when google partner up with new company for another nexus phone and new OS. and nexus S owners have to wait for the OS to be released on their system much like what the nexus 1 users are doing. "
its nothing but a marketing crap. yay. i got 2.3....1 yay before anyone else... :/

Is this a Good Phone

Im looking into buying a nexus s and just wanna see what ppl on these forums have to say about it. Overall is it a good phone? how's the rooting process hard? Does rooting vastly improve it like it did my hero? General opinions on the phone?
Thanks for any input
Like you, I came from a HTC Hero. Rooting isn't necessary to squeeze more performance from the nexus s compared to the hero. Having said that, it is strongly recommended to root it because it allows you to do so much more on the nexus s. In terms of performance wise, rooting does not "vastly" improve the performance.
General opinions of the phone are its great! Go get it.
The rooting process is extremely simple. Go do a quick search on the forums.
Great phone. Fairly easy to root. The guides available are great as long as you follow it verbatim. The phone itself is fast as is and has large internal memory for apps. Rooting is worth it IMO. The extra overclock and undervolt keeps the phone always running fluid and increases battery life significantly.
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Thanks for the input guys...REALLY looking forward to gettin this
Im getting another one this will be my 3rd. Its def a keeper. Vanilla and constant updates 1st
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Yeah hero is probably the worst effin phone ever made in the history of all phones so any upgrade is a blessing.
And yes, the hero sucked so many balls. The slowest laggiest POS ever.
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Yeah hero is probably the worst effin phone ever made in the history of all phones so any upgrade is a blessing.
And yes, the hero sucked so many balls. The slowest laggiest POS ever.
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I actually thought Hero sent the trend on how Android devices should look and function.
Anyway, imo, nexus s is the best android phone, I just got one yesterday, samoled version (dislike slcd), I love everything about the phone. It even performs better than my brother's HTC Sensation even with its dual core.
my next phone will either be the next nexus or galaxy s3.
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I have the galaxy s vibrant. Would you guys still recomend me to get the nexus s? I can get one at a very good price.. But im wondering if its worth the change. Any input is welcome
Edit: sorry for the thread highjack, thought of posting here rather than creating a new thread.
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I have the galaxy s vibrant. Would you guys still recomend me to get the nexus s? I can get one at a very good price.. But im wondering if its worth the change. Any input is welcome
Edit: sorry for the thread highjack, thought of posting here rather than creating a new thread.
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I love my Nexus S (coming from an HTC Magic), but if you already have a Galaxy S, I don't think it's worth the trouble: they have pretty much the same hardware inside. In addition, IIRC, Galaxy S has Gorilla glass, a SD card slot, FM radio and 720p recording.
The best thing about the Nexus S is that it's vanilla Android, constantly updated and officially supported by Google. It has NFC, which the Galaxy S doesn't have, and gets better support from app developers as well. I didn't need all those hardware features the Galaxy S had: I just wanted *the* Google phone :-D.
Basically, the Nexus line is much better supported than the Galaxy S line, but if you're in XDA, I guess you won't mind flashing a vanilla ROM to your Galaxy S.
Thanks for your reply. You made good points on my deciding factor. But even if im on xda, i hate having to flash my phone all the time (my sgs is stock). I just want the latest version of android.
Here's the thing.. Someone wants to buy my sgs for $300. I have credits on my account and could get the nexus s for $308 all in. Or i can just save my credits and let it accumulate over the next few months to buy a better phone. But im really itching for a stock vanilla android phone. Decisions decisions...
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Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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I dont think it is a downgrade, i think the point in android world is " you cant have everything"... sure, sgs has a lot of features that we dont have in nxs, but nxs also has some things over sgs... and you need to decide what you are looking for, what comes first for you...
I came from a desire hd, that in specs is worse of nxs, and i am pretty much satisfeid with it. I guess the point is: it's good to look specs, but it is only half part, the other half is about daily usage.
Back to the question, if i were you i would wait a little bit more, swap for a nealy phone, more than 6 months old... maybe you can get a sgs II or wait for the new nexus prime, i just dont know if it a good idea.. =o)
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I dont think it is a downgrade, i think the point in android world is " you cant have everything"... sure, sgs has a lot of features that we dont have in nxs, but nxs also has some things over sgs... and you need to decide what you are looking for, what comes first for you...
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I think the only additional thing Nexus S has is flash. I have my own reservations about the quality of HTC phones after using HTC Desire for few weeks. But if the choice is between SGS and NS, SGS clearly has an edge. But again, its individual's choice. Whatever works the best for you.
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Absolutely disagree. I've had the vibrant for the last 9 months and thought it was awesome but then the lag gets unbearable because of the file system. I went in with my brother and dad and got a family plan and we got the nexus s since I thought that would be the best (hulu, Netflix, etc all came out first for it) and you get software updates first too from Google. And the phone is wicked fast. I thought I would miss touchwiz and all the quirks but you know what I did for like 3 days. And the battery life on this sucker is amazing. I think its a great buy especially for me. But each his own. People have different wants and needs and everybody needs to do their research before buying and investing in something so expensive.
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Stay with Galaxy S. As soon as you go to Nexus S, you will miss your Galaxy S. IMHO, Nexus S is a downgrade from Galaxy S. I did this mistake but within 2 weeks gladly came back to Galaxy S. But if you are too itchy, buy Nexus S and compare both head on head. Know the difference yourself and get rid of the one you find inferior compared to the other.
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Well I do not disagree. Galaxy S does need a little bit of tweaking to get the full performance out of it. All I did with my SGS was to install JVO 2.3.4, root it and this changed it to a totally different phone. Yes, I use stock gingerbread launcher and keyboard instead of touchwiz or Samsung keyboard. All of this takes hardly 30 minutes.
Nexus S is definitely fast out of the box. But gorilla glass, FM radio, expandable memory slot, better video recording give SGS an edge over NS. SGS just needs half an hour more to reveal its potential.
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I wrote a review to answer this first post.
Here is a review I put together as I had same initial questions. Hope it helps.
My first experience with android was rooting a Hero, since then I enjoyed a year with a rooted EVO, but after several boot-looping experiences which I was unable to correct, the phone had become unusable, and I was forced to choose a new phone a little more premature than I would have liked. I had my heart set on the specs of the Galaxy S II but after enjoying two HTC phones and how easily they were rooted I also leaned toward the EVO 3D. I will admit here, that I was a “flash-aholic” when it came to trying out new ROMs and kernels, and would probably continue to have been so if it weren’t for the boot-loop and force closing problem I was having.
I decided to go ahead and get a Sprint Nexus S 4G instead of waiting another ten days for the EVO 3D, knowing that if I didn’t have a good experience with the Nexus, I could return it within the 30 day trial period. The Sprint rep. was very helpful and honest with his assistance, he showed me that the Nexus even in the store was not picking up as good a signal as the EVO 4G, and I expressed concern about receiving signal at my residence, as frequently I had to step outside in the back yard to have a phone conversation using the EVO.
Initial setup of the Nexus was surprisingly easy, but just as suspected the signal at home was weak, though not any worse than the EVO. A call to Sprint tech support the next day helped when they offered to send me an Airave unit, which I received in only one week and found a dramatic improvement for not only my phone but my wife’s EVO as well. Thank you Sprint!
My next adventure was whether or not to root this phone, as I held off until I decided I was going to keep it. It was a little bit of a challenge for me to set up adb capabilities on my computer but worth the research. So I was now set up to make the root possible, however, reading up on the Nexus didn’t convince me that rooting was to my best advantage at this time, so I have held off. The signal problem had been resolved, my battery life has been great, my phone is extremely fast, and tethering works right out of the box, most importantly is everything works well without bugs or any other problems. This doesn’t mean I won’t root when I see a clear advantage in the future, and fortunately rooting the Nexus is as easy as it can get.
Instead I have used ADW EX customizations to optimize this phone for my best android experience, and it is this point convincing me to keep it. The Nexus S has none of the Sprint bloat-ware profligation, and none of the manufacturer skin-ware. Using ADW EX and android widgets, I was able to customize my Nexus to suit my needs perfectly. The best part of the experience is that I got to choose how my phone worked, and my phone now operates exactly how I want it to, I might also mention that Launcher Pro would work very well also. Ah, the beauty of android.
Later the next week I went into a local RadioShack to have hands-on time with the EVO 3D to make certain I had made the best choice. I did that Sense 3 twirl thing and the rep mentioned the limitations of Nexus screen scrolling, I showed him that my phone also had infinity scrolling. He was surprised and didn’t go any further.
Sure the latest summer phones have better specs, more powerful hardware, and unique features (3D), but for me at least, they don’t really make for a better android experience than a Nexus. Here is a list of widgets I have included on my screens.
Agenda widget keeps an excellent display of my appointments.
Springpad for notes and general organization uses.
Google+ widget, as well as android system widget for general phone info.
I use Jorte calendar to fill up one entire screen.
The control widget for quick access to phone controls.
The Starbuck coffee widget cause I gotta admit, I like my coffee.
Skype video calls work excellently and I use it frequently since most phone users still don’t have Google Talk video. I have combined Facebook with Twitter using Tweetdeck, and this app I keep in an easily accessible hidden dock which contains many of my frequently used apps, one of the best features of ADW EX and used by many ROMs such as Cyanogen.
The overall flow and performance of the phone is flawless, handling multi-functioning easily, Bluetooth works very well, wi-fi at home and at my local Starbucks is good, pictures are adequate and the general feel of the phone is sleek without giving up that much on size coming from an EVO slab phone user. The idea that updates get pushed out to Nexus phones before anyone else will keep me a happy user for some time to come as the Nexus is a developer’s phone hence new applications often come to this phone first, the recent case of Skype video calling is a great example.
What do I miss most, or wished improved? I must admit I do miss that EVO kickstand, which was a nice feature though I can’t help but think it would mess with the sleekness of the Nexus. The missing sd card hasn’t been an issue for me, but I suppose it could be for others. There are times I still miss the LED notification light, though that is minor thing. I have read others complain of the back being slick and a fingerprint magnet, but I stuck an Egrip strip with a cool image to help in handling the phone better and reduce the space for smudges.
Are there better phones out there this summer? Sure, if you go by hardware specs, so if photo quality is important to you with a better camera and more features such as 3D, or if you just can’t live without that LED notification light, the Nexus may not be for you. A dual core phone is slightly faster, but hardly noticeable and does 1 second or less really make that much difference? Do they make better use of the android system though? In my opinion this is where the Nexus excels and for me that is the true strength of this phone and why I suggest giving it a serious consideration.
I would probably keep the galaxy s in favor of the nexus s, mainly because of the browser-lag issue in the nexus. It is a great phone, but I don't think vanilla android brings to the table that much you should sell your galaxy. Hardware wise you would be gaining nothing.
You almost might as well wait for the next nexus that probably will come at the same time as ice-cream sandwich (Q4). Nexus is nice because you get the updates almost immediately, but Google has indicated that there will be no major updates before the launch of ICS. So why not wait for the phone that launches with ICS?
i just LOVE nexus s... Fast smooth amazing battery life, bought it two days ago and i completely fell in love with it. Coming from htc sense i thought vanilla would feel a little "vanilla" but no sir, the speed and the battery pays off sure if ur a guy who likes to use camera a lot then sgs might be a better option, but for all other things i believe sns is better. plus the curved screen is sexy
of course, most people here recognize this phone as good one. you know this phone even been to Space. how great.. haha

Considering buying an iphone 4

As much as I love how open android is I still think I may want to get an iphone 4. So can you guys give me some reasons that would make me not make this decision.
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ugh, why? This would be almost a waste of money. Consider that in the next 3-4 months a multitude of phones are dropping. For ex: iphone5, htc holiday (htc inspire hd), Samsung galaxy s 2, Lg Thrill, htc lead, Sony Xperia play, Samsung Attain....
I guess my question is, how would making the switch from Android to IOS honestly benefit you and your lifestyle? I prefer android simply because of the openness if I don't feel like sense then I got with cm7 if I feel like sense I flash a sense rom. With IOS you only get jail-broke or non jail-broke, in which some you can't even use i-tunes for apps, which i-tunes still has some apps that cydia doesn't. Not to mention almost all IOS apps are being ported to android.
Though I am just not a fan of apple; I personally don't see a reason to pay absurd amounts of money for something that is technologically behind the times, and over priced for the parts it contains. Take into consideration that everything but IOS is outsourced to other phone makers like lg and samsung.
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As much as I love how open android is I still think I may want to get an iphone 4. So can you guys give me some reasons that would make me not make this decision.
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I believe you would love the iPhone 4. I know I love mine. And I have Android and WP7. The iPhone 4 has the best battery life of all systems...purely amazing...and just works so well. It isn't as sweet as WP7, but it has all the features and is perfectly reliable. You'll love the apps for iOS as well. I'd say go for it. But keep Android also.
The Wife has one. I opt'd for the inspire because;
1. Cheaper
2. More horse power with the OC
3. More Customization.
4. Games are finally coming in droves for Android.
5. Custom Roms. After a Jailbreak what can you load on an Iphone? Nothing great. I guess you can wear your pirate eye patch, but that is lame....
6. Smaller screen. Ho Damn, I can't stand using the eyephone for internet browsing. Its to small and missing flash....
7. In the near future there will be awesome phones and the iphone 5. Why get last years model?
Ect, ect, ect, ect....
I must say that if you are in this forum (XDA Android) asking about the benefits of IOS(Apple), then clearly you are a comment whore that already knows the in and outs of this.
Just my two cents
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I must say that if you are in this forum (XDA Android) asking about the benefits of IOS(Apple), then clearly you are a comment whore that already knows the in and outs of this.
Just my two cents
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He has an inspire and has every right to ask us how we feel about the switch.
Anyway back on topic. I wouldn't get the iPhone. You will be unhappy with it in a month. iOS has terrible memory management and is SEVERELY limited. It has great battery life because you can't do anything with it lol
There is no true multitasking on the iPhone. My battery life would be great of I closed every app immediately after using it. And I just can not stand how safari reformats everything to what it thinks looks best.
The only thing the iPhone has on android right now is its camera and screen resolution. That's it.
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I must say that if you are in this forum (XDA Android) asking about the benefits of IOS(Apple), then clearly you are a comment whore that already knows the in and outs of this.
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Worst first comment ever.
...Way to go!
Well I kinda agree. There are several threads already asking about the iPhone 4. I mean come on. You can Google it and hear it from the guys that review every phone imaginable and get their two cents. Were not here to tell you to keep your inspire,instead make your own choice. The layouts of both phones are everywhere to be found and why tell a guy the reasons not to leave when he owns a inspire already? If you love your android,keep it. You know the ins and outs of IOS and honestly its over priced rubbish that is created year after year with very little upgrades just to make them apple brainwashed idiots keep buying hoping for a change....not happening. Want my opinion? Steve jobs and his entire apple company can stick with mac books and that other crap but not cell phones. They are scam artists and copying basterds that deserve to go back in time and sit a few years in pelican bay Penn and made someone's woman. Just like Samsung,you expect more,yet get pointed into disappointed. My iPhone 4 lasted exactly 12 hours and 37 mins. Received it before ATT closed one night and had it back in the AM. If you want a iPhone,go ahead,try it out. If you need info,search youtube or Google and you already know details. Just my two cents
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Blasphemy
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for one you can OC the inspire to 1.99 Ghz and with the iPhone 4 the processor is always at 800 Mhz, it's 1 Ghz underclocked to 800Mhz just like all other ios processors
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Well I kinda agree. There are several threads already asking about the iPhone 4. I mean come on. You can Google it and hear it from the guys that review every phone imaginable and get their two cents. Were not here to tell you to keep your inspire,instead make your own choice. The layouts of both phones are everywhere to be found and why tell a guy the reasons not to leave when he owns a inspire already? If you love your android,keep it. You know the ins and outs of IOS and honestly its over priced rubbish that is created year after year with very little upgrades just to make them apple brainwashed idiots keep buying hoping for a change....not happening. Want my opinion? Steve jobs and his entire apple company can stick with mac books and that other **** but not cell phones. They are scam artists and copying basterds that deserve to go back in time and sit a few years in pelican bay Penn and made someone's *****. Just like Samsung,you expect more,yet get pointed into disappointed. My iPhone 4 lasted exactly 12 hours and 37 mins. Received it before ATT closed one night and had it back in the AM. If you want a iPhone,go ahead,try it out. If you need info,search youtube or Google and you already know details. Just my two cents
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While I don't agree with how this was said (No swearing in the forums please) I agree with the the point r what was said. The only one that will be able to tell you how you will feel about it will be you after you have used it. I have been suprised by phones that I thight were garbage but turned out to be decent. All the info you will need about both your phones is all over the internet. Why make a post in a Development forum that is not even about the device your thinking about getting?
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Keep Skyrocket or go with iPhone 4S?

For the past few days I've been enjoying the skyrocket but I've been feeling a bit nostalgic after ditching my iPhone 3GS. I find the size of the phone to be a tad too big for me because I have to maneuver the phone a lot to slide down the notifications and the feel of plastic in my just doesn't seem right to me. I also feel that the phone lacks in music controls from anywhere whereas iOS double home press is so flawless. Does anyone have any tweak suggestion for this fix? Because If there isn't I'm just gonna go back to iOS since I feel so at home with it and with 4S jailbreak just around the corner, there's gonna be endless possibilities for it.
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Man just give it some time you will get use to it. I gave up my iPhone 4s for this super skyrocket the thing is I love both platforms it came down to the screen for me iPhone to small yet better screen.
My needs are met I can't complain to much .... plus this white skyrocket is just out right beautiful
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Man, I came from a 3gs, there's no going back. There are things I miss about iOS, but its all made up by features I love in android OS. I pick up my wife's 4s occasionally and laugh at how tiny the screen is. Personal preference, but I would stick it out a bit as I too had these same feelings.
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For the past few days I've been enjoying the skyrocket but I've been feeling a bit nostalgic after ditching my iPhone 3GS. I find the size of the phone to be a tad too big for me because I have to maneuver the phone a lot to slide down the notifications and the feel of plastic in my just doesn't seem right to me. I also feel that the phone lacks in music controls from anywhere whereas iOS double home press is so flawless. Does anyone have any tweak suggestion for this fix? Because If there isn't I'm just gonna go back to iOS since I feel so at home with it and with 4S jailbreak just around the corner, there's gonna be endless possibilities for it.
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Skyrocket should automatically show the music controls on the lockscreen while playing.
And the plastic, you just need time, you get used to it.
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Oh I was talking about using PlayerPro or in fact any alternative. Even with the stock player it only shows pause and play. Ugh I'm so bipolar with phones LOL. Mostly because I'm scared of any problems or buyers remorse that might come up in the future.
EDIT: nvm the stock has previous and forward kry s my bad
Do what I did and keep both
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It really all depends on what you want to do with the phone.
I upgraded to the 4S before exchanging it with a buddy for his skyrocket. The ONLY thing I miss was the Visual Voicemail integration in the iPhone was better. But the Visual Voicemail AT&T provides is pretty neat too, not to mention google voice is another great option. Camera is great on both phones. Siri I didn't use much so can't comment on it. I will have to warn you, the battery life on the 4S has also suffered now that they've implemented the same drop-down notification window thing that Android does.
I agree a jailbreak will make the 4S a great device, and that's one of the main reasons I switched is because the damn jailbreak is taking sooo long. Here they've already rooted this bad boy, and made ROM's for it. Plus I hate going through iTunes. I would much rather drag-n-drop songs and videos directly into the phone (personal preference). Another thing is, LTE is enabled in both New York and NJ and the speeds I get on the Skyrocket are pretty awesome.
These are just the points I thought of when making a decision. I might switch to another Android device in a few months, but I'm done with iOS. It's stagnant now.
@abudabu. I agree with your points as I was thinking the same things. However I have been having audio issues as posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1408545
@glock hahaha I wish I could ball so hard
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I've had the phone for about 3 weeks. I did look at an iphone, but the Skyrocket really grabbed my attention. Winamp is great for music, and I also did not want to be tied to itunes. Even if you don't root and flah a rom, there are great customizations available through android market. Give this phone a chance, it is winner in my opinion.
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For the past few days I've been enjoying the skyrocket but I've been feeling a bit nostalgic after ditching my iPhone 3GS. I find the size of the phone to be a tad too big for me because I have to maneuver the phone a lot to slide down the notifications and the feel of plastic in my just doesn't seem right to me. I also feel that the phone lacks in music controls from anywhere whereas iOS double home press is so flawless. Does anyone have any tweak suggestion for this fix? Because If there isn't I'm just gonna go back to iOS since I feel so at home with it and with 4S jailbreak just around the corner, there's gonna be endless possibilities for it.
Thanks and Happy Holidays to all XDA members!
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Listen, if one gets used in a specific interface, other interfaces may look difficult to work with and master. So, if the phone is too big for your hands, and you have usability issues, why fight it? Go back to iPhone. Of course, within 2 - 3 months, the Skyrocket would be running ICS and the UI would be different again. I personally love the phone, I think that it is a great piece of hardware, but size and previous patterns of use is something that would be experienced differently by individual users.
If you want to stick it out, then you must learn a bit more about ICS (Android 4.0) because this would be the OS that you would be running the longest in this phone. My guess is that by the time there is Android 5.0 out there, you would be ready for an upgrade!!!
Get that sweet Iphone.. I mean that awesome 3 inch screen and all the Isheep followers.. who doesnt want that?
I had a Icrap for 3 days.. its so small and you can't do anything with it but look at it..
The SR or any other Android is much better than any Iphone..
get go launcher, our adw launcher, they have downward swipe to get notification down. so that we don't need to have super long thumb.
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iPhone 4s is outdated
I can't ever go back to iPhone 4s. Maybe when iPhone 5 is 4.5", offered external storage support, LTE, and DivX, XviD, MKV support....then they've finally caught up.
Not to be mean, but if you have to ask. I hope you are still able to return the real phone for a childs toy. Yes i have seen a 5 year old use an iphone, and i think Fisher Price has some new iphone cases coming out next year.
^^^^^^^^_Lol true true true^^^^^^^^^^^
I agree with everything that you guys said above about the size and the plastic but it is lighter and the screen size is just phenominal compared to the iphone. My friend has an iphone 4s and he is always jealous of how customizable my phone is. I think that is the strongest part of the Android OS, the fact that your phone is totally unique to you
Let me clearly tell you who suppose to use i****!
Kids under 10!!
And Oldies Over 60!!
If you are not in one of those categories than i don't feel like explaining you the difference. Because I think You know the difference between the two.
One is Windows 8 and other is Window XP!
There you have my opinion and I m sure many will agree with me.
If you agree with me Thumbs UP!
Coming from the iPhone 3GS, I don't regret moving to the SR at all. So much more customizable, bigger screen, great interface. I don't even notice the plastic on the phone, because I always use a case on my phones. And, I'm using Go launcher, which is a fantastic interface. It took awhile to get used to android vs. iOS, but I'm so glad I stuck with it. Keep it, and you won't be sorry!
See even former iphone users know iphone cant compete with android (skyrocket) You should listen to her
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I can't ever go back to iPhone 4s. Maybe when iPhone 5 is 4.5", offered external storage support, LTE, and DivX, XviD, MKV support....then they've finally caught up.
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Yep. That 'bout sums it up.

[q] what's better galaxy s2 or iphone 4s

what do you prefer the galaxy s2 or iphone 4s?
It's all preference I just don't like the feel of an iPhone to small and the glass breaks to easy, and ios can't really modify it to make it ur own.
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if iphone has a bigger screen, i may consider.
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if iphone has a bigger screen, i may consider.
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Had iphone 4 over a year.....loved it jailbroke it, had all types of things going on...emulators, remote control, remote access, you name it I did it...I sold it after discovering iphone 5 was not being relased in October and decided to try Android.
The HTC Sensation was a great tablet but horrible phone...I knew Droid had great potential but I needed a better phone to bring out that experience
Enter the T989....
Coming from iphone 4, I had high standards. The Galaxy S2 not only performed as well if not better on the computer side, its actually turned out to be a better telephone.
Sound quality, bluetooth connectivity, ear speaker volume...speakerphone volume
It soars!
Screen quality...is actually very good. Last but not least Pentaband phone....research what that means
I can go on and on let's just say that I'm wirelessly tethering my laptop from my GS2 at 4G speed and enjoying every minute of it
Get this phone if you haven't already...you won't be dissapointed. It delivers every benefit you're looking for in spades
Thought about buying an iPad 2. Couldn't pull the trigger because of the thought of all I would be losing out on. Got a 10.1 Tab instead. Still in awe of it. So much so I got a GS2 yesterday. As a Sensation4G owner I have to say these phones aren't in the same league. Aside from a horrible firmware upgrade experience this phone is awesome. The i* products have nothing on these. The arguments about build quality aren't valid imo. Nothing about either of these devices feels cheap. Now I know why Apple is trying to stop Samsung from selling these. I'm probably going to buy a Samsung tv in a few weeks too.
(written on a macbook pro)
Samsung+Android=<3
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i have to say that the opinions in this thread is actually very good. They're not biased and bashing iphones like how most of these turns out.
I would like to add that most people stayed with iphone over android because of battery life, but the gs2 battery life is actually really good. With the correct settings and combination of rom and kernel, the phone will outlast an iphone 4s.
another! 4g>>>>>3g
what most people miss about the iphone when going to the gs2 is the retina display. but come on... its a freaken huge screen lol, connect your gs2 to your tv and laugh at all the iphone users! muahahha jk.. not really.
well if your on tmobile, and using iphone u are sacrifycing your 4g speeds. iphone is a great phone. its just the screen is too small. i would use iphone, but without 4g and using edge, hell no lol
by functionality, Android, and that means SGS2 is better
a ton of people i work with have switched from various iphones (including the 4s) to the sgs2 and never looked back...
Galaxy +1 The best smartphone 2011 year
http://www.compare-cellphones.org/Apple-iPhone-4S-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II
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http://www.compare-cellphones.org/Apple-iPhone-4S-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-II
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Why the sad face? On that page S2 clearly has better features although for some reason they seem to misunderstand ram as they say the iphone has more ram for playing games when it doesn't it only has more storage space.
Dave
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funziebear said:
It's all preference I just don't like the feel of an iPhone to small and the glass breaks to easy, and ios can't really modify it to make it ur own.
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totally agreed
i have an android phone (my first) and im enjoying it so much but i like iphone too but considering that iphone is so expensive, the glass breaks too easily and when im searching i notice that the android community its getting bigger and bigger every day so if you need something on android you have a big community to get help
but like funziebear said its all preference
Galaxy S2, mainly because it's android and you are note bound by the limits of iOS, but also because (I think) the look and feel of the phone are just better.
You should also consider the Galaxy Nexus by the way, it's imo the best phone on the market right now.
Depends on what you want
I do think that Apple products are a little easier to use for the average (non geek) person, I suspect they are designed that way. And there is something to be said for that, but Android is more powerful and more flexible. I can't think of anything the Iphone can do that the S2 can't do equally well or better, at least with the appropriate apps.
Yeah I dont bash on iPhone that's what started my whole "smartphone" experience, I just don't care for it anymore haha I'll still work on them and jailbreak for friends so I'm still western of all it's updates and features I don't care to go back
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Galaxy S2, mainly because it's android and you are note bound by the limits of iOS, but also because (I think) the look and feel of the phone are just better.
You should also consider the Galaxy Nexus by the way, it's imo the best phone on the market right now.
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I agree completely.
I think its like comparing apples and pears...
Thank you all for your help.. and I've gotten the Galaxy S2 yesterday and I really do like it I've had a lot of android phones on att and Tmobile. I had the iPhone 4 twice but not the 4S. Its just that android sometimes slow down or freeze but the iPhone 4 barley freezes or slows down. But I have the galaxy s2 and I'm thinking if I should trade it for a iPhone 4S
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