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Evo get's Gingerbread 6/3/11... TBolt must not be far behind.

http://phandroid.com/2011/06/01/htc...ers-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-scheduled/
I look forward to the official update so the devs can get to work and this whole Ginger radio thing can be put to bed.

You would think so but you never know with HTC. Here is for hoping though.

bigd5783 said:
You would think so but you never know with HTC. Here is for hoping though.
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Very true. However, they at least have the sense overlay done (or so it would seem), so that leaves the LTE radio... that's about it.
*raises a glass to HTC*
Don't let me down *****es.

I am so jelous.
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Gingerbread will come out after the maintenance fix update that verizon & HTC are working on. The maintenance update is scheduled for this month so hopefully not to much longer for ginger...

Jrocker23 said:
Gingerbread will come out after the maintenance fix update that verizon & HTC are working on. The maintenance update is scheduled for this month so hopefully not to much longer for ginger...
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You say that pretty confidently. Do you have a good source of information? Just curious if you've got inside knowledge or if this is coming from the internet rumor mill.
Either way I hope you're right. I can't wait for some GB action.
Thanks!

Let's hope they fix it because my Bolt has been a turd. 5 random reboots yesterday.

playbeasy said:
You say that pretty confidently. Do you have a good source of information? Just curious if you've got inside knowledge or if this is coming from the internet rumor mill.
Either way I hope you're right. I can't wait for some GB action.
Thanks!
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I can say that it does come from verizon and its not your everyday cs rep or a store employee. I have known the person since I'm 5 (41 Now) and they have been with verizon 15 years and has worked his way up from tech to a nice position.
I can also add that they were looking into making the maintenance update part of the GB upgrade but were having issues with it so as of now they are two seperate ota's.
Im sure some of the devs here can check and see if this has any validity. I cant get him to confirm a GB date but he said nothing will be set for GB until current issues are dealt with..

Jrocker23 said:
I can say that it does come from verizon and its not your everyday cs rep or a store employee. I have known the person since I'm 5 (41 Now) and they have been with verizon 15 years and has worked his way up from tech to a nice position.
I can also add that they were looking into making the maintenance update part of the GB upgrade but were having issues with it so as of now they are two seperate ota's.
Im sure some of the devs here can check and see if this has any validity. I cant get him to confirm a GB date but he said nothing will be set for GB until current issues are dealt with..
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Where have you been all my (Android) life?!

miketoasty said:
Where have you been all my (Android) life?!
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In my pants...

Been using multiple GB 2.3.3, and 2.3.4 roms, including alpha CM7, with very little issue. I would expect official release soon if I didn't know Verizon so well.
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The EVO has been out a longer than the thunderbolt, and its just now getting it. I'm not saying it will take that long for the tbolt to ft GB, I'm just saying don't get your heart completely set on getting it real soon. Who knows these days really..
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I hope it doesn't have the issues the Droid X has with the ota update that rolled out.

jakkzen said:
I hope it doesn't have the issues the Droid X has with the ota update that rolled out.
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All updates have issues so it's going to be pretty much unavoidable. Factory resets can generally clear up most of them though.

MR2 OTA today?

Has anyone gotten the new MR2 OTA that was supposed to come out today? I have been running it since it leaked but I haven't seen anyone talk about getting it OTA yet today.
My TB worked great the first 5 days I had it, I was loving the 4G speeds. All the sudden I stopped getting 4G completely in my house and cycling/losing data constantly otherwise. I have tried everything and MR2 didn't fix the problems. The rep was pretty knowledgeable that I spoke to, but told me to wait until I get the new update before they would replace my phone. Obviously I can't tell him I'm running it already, so I just need to know when it "officially" is out.
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Nothing yet...
Sent by draining my Thunderbolt's battery.

Being that the hotspot was extended, i wonder if the update will be around July 6th?
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Check this out guys.
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-no-specific-date-thunderbolt-update

ajd88 said:
Check this out guys.
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-no-specific-date-thunderbolt-update
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Thanks.
This is really starting to piss me off. I'm calling them right now for my replacement.

theredspecial said:
Thanks.
This is really starting to piss me off. I'm calling them right now for my replacement.
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It'll come soon enough hopefully. I did the replacement thing and its probably not gonna do you any good. Unless you got some cosmetic issues with your current thunderbolt.

theredspecial said:
Has anyone gotten the new MR2 OTA that was supposed to come out today? I have been running it since it leaked but I haven't seen anyone talk about getting it OTA yet today.
My TB worked great the first 5 days I had it, I was loving the 4G speeds. All the sudden I stopped getting 4G completely in my house and cycling/losing data constantly otherwise. I have tried everything and MR2 didn't fix the problems. The rep was pretty knowledgeable that I spoke to, but told me to wait until I get the new update before they would replace my phone. Obviously I can't tell him I'm running it already, so I just need to know when it "officially" is out.
Thanks
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Any time you see someone posting a supposed update from an exclusive source, add one to three months to that for the true date.
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akanatrix said:
Any time you see someone posting a supposed update from an exclusive source, add one to three months to that for the true date.
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That was a good one...I got a good laugh from that one. I especially love it when people over on Verizon's T-bolt forum say, they are releasing gingerbread today. I know because I spoke with a tech on the phone and they told me it was.

Well I have a new TB coming tomorrow. My issue was that I didn't want a CLNR piece of **** device that Verizon loves to give out, so I had to get my replacement within 14 days of my original purchase. The tech today told me that the ETA on the update is before the end of June and no later. I guess that's good news.

akanatrix said:
Any time you see someone posting a supposed update from an exclusive source, add one to three months to that for the true date.
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That is unfortunately true. I saw Jcase posted on Twitter the other day that the update was going to be delayed or maybe even cancelled for a new build.

Wondering why you aren't getting OTA?

I went to a T-Mobile store earlier today, and ended up talking to them about the official OTA update for G2x. Turns out they pulled it because of "Issues it had". My LG update tool messed up my two phones, so I'm no longer trying that. My only chance for an official GB is the OTA, so I was forced to ask a lot of questions when they broke the news. They said they have no idea when the update will go live again, but it will work again once the issue is fixed. I'm not going to go through the whole "soon" phase again. Hopefully this is fixed fast.

Thanks for posting this. I've decided to wait, but have been curious why I had not seen it on my G2X. My daughters update via OTA came the day after it came out. I assumed I hadn't seen it 'cause I'm rooted.

ickster said:
Thanks for posting this. I've decided to wait, but have been curious why I had not seen it on my G2X. My daughters update via OTA came the day after it came out. I assumed I hadn't seen it 'cause I'm rooted.
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No Problem... They most likely stopped the update today since I talked to Customer Service yesterday, and they said "Wait for the OTA once your replacement arrives".

Wow so no ota update anymore? Btw what kinda of os were u using to update to 2.3?
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sTyLeSz said:
Wow so no ota update anymore? Btw what kinda of os were u using to update to 2.3?
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Not for now. I was using Windows XP comp/ Windows 7 Laptop

Hmmm, that is strange...I wonder what kind of issues they are talking about?
I've updated mine trought the LG Update tool(have the LGP999DWP), worked just fine, so far not having any issues.
I hope once they fixed whatever they are doing to be able to install that update as well.
I am not rooted-running all stock software.

sTyLeSz said:
Wow so no ota update anymore? Btw what kinda of os were u using to update to 2.3?
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If you were asking about the PC used with the lg update, I used a Win 7 pro 32x. Worked great. No issues.

I went back to stock rom and rwcovery im still rooted thou (heard root doesnt matter) and i have a win 7 64 bit im scared to try to do it thru the update tool
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Lol, guys if you can exchange this phone for the sensation i will suggest you do it ASAP!. LG has pretty much washed their hands off this phone. It kinda reminds me of what Nokia did with the N900. Anyway i had an opportunity to exchange mine with NO cost and ended up getting $3 back this Monday. This phone is nothing but trouble. BT don't even work properly.

cenwesi said:
Lol, guys if you can exchange this phone for the sensation i will suggest you do it ASAP!. LG has pretty much washed their hands off this phone. It kinda reminds me of what Nokia did with the N900. Anyway i had an opportunity to exchange mine with NO cost and ended up getting $3 back this Monday. This phone is nothing but trouble. BT don't even work properly.
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How did you exchange for the Sensation? T-Mobile said that they can give me G2 but not the Sensation. How did you do it?

I did it just fine with Windows 7 x64.
sTyLeSz said:
I went back to stock rom and rwcovery im still rooted thou (heard root doesnt matter) and i have a win 7 64 bit im scared to try to do it thru the update tool
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cenwesi said:
Lol, guys if you can exchange this phone for the sensation i will suggest you do it ASAP!. LG has pretty much washed their hands off this phone. It kinda reminds me of what Nokia did with the N900. Anyway i had an opportunity to exchange mine with NO cost and ended up getting $3 back this Monday. This phone is nothing but trouble. BT don't even work properly.
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Nah, the sensation has a lot of issues aswell. I rarely have any problems with my G2x, Sensation is a downgrade IMO.

Pecata said:
How did you exchange for the Sensation? T-Mobile said that they can give me G2 but not the Sensation. How did you do it?
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If you're willing to downgrade. Just hassle them until they offer the sensation. Rant about the Specs and what you paid. Worked for my bro.

Final View said:
If you're willing to downgrade. Just hassle them until they offer the sensation. Rant about the Specs and what you paid. Worked for my bro.
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No, i was just curoius I guess. I don't like the HTC Sense UI, it is way too much for me. It slows down the phone way too much too.
The gingerbread update we got from LG is half way done if you ask me. T-Mobile should make them finish it and then push it as OTA to all of us...just a thought

IF this is true (and haven't there been lots of threads over the last couple of months where sales/support/service representatives confidently asserted "facts" that proved to be false or were even obviously wrong at the time?), I'm hoping it might be to rectify the one point about the upgrade that has been universally panned: the loss of the LG Froyo camera application. It would be nice to get some independent confirmation, but given both LG's and T-Mobile's demonstrated unwillingness to say anything definitive about anything, that seems unlikely...

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IF this is true (and haven't there been lots of threads over the last couple of months where sales/support/service representatives confidently asserted "facts" that proved to be false or were even obviously wrong at the time?), I'm hoping it might be to rectify the one point about the upgrade that has been universally panned: the loss of the LG Froyo camera application. It would be nice to get some independent confirmation, but given both LG's and T-Mobile's demonstrated unwillingness to say anything definitive about anything, that seems unlikely...
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Dono't get your hope up. IF what OP said is true, I would only expect a new update without the glitch. Nothing more , nothing less.

richteralan said:
Dono't get your hope up. IF what OP said is true, I would only expect a new update without the glitch. Nothing more , nothing less.
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Most likely. I called them again, and this time they said it was a problem installing. Others installed perfectly using the OTA. So i'm thinking they're covering up something.

They just sent me the Software update after I called them. Quick Fix or clueless employees?

Pecata said:
How did you exchange for the Sensation? T-Mobile said that they can give me G2 but not the Sensation. How did you do it?
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Well you see, i explained to them that i bought a G2x (dual core,blah blah....), if i wanted a G2 i would have bought it. After all it is a 2yr or so old phone. Went on about how the BT on the phone does not work with an expensive BT. How it freezes....basically every other problem people where having i let them know. But she wasn't budging and i gave the phone back to the tmobile manager. Anyway to make a long story short i was nice to the manager and explained it all to him and even took it one step further. Right before i got to his store on monday, the BT locked up just like i suspected it would and i showed it to him and from then on he did is magic
Just like i ask the tmobile rep on the phone: if she had a lexus (LS 430) and she paid FULL price for it and it turns out to be a lemon. If lexus refuses to fix the problem or give her her money back but instead wanted to give her a honda from 2yrs would she take it? she was basically silent....that is when i handed the phone over to the manager. Anyway keep *****ing and they will definitely switch you over.

Final View said:
Nah, the sensation has a lot of issues aswell. I rarely have any problems with my G2x, Sensation is a downgrade IMO.
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Yes ALL phones have their issues but i can assure you the sensation problem is way less than the G2x.
Don't kid your self about sensation being a downgrade because it is really not. How is it really a down grade...is it because of sense? have you really played with it?

Confirmed thunderbolt is getting ICS!!!!

HTC just tweeted, "ICS for thunderbolt is coming soon..."

About time. Thunderbolt needs new life breathed into it. Can't wait for this!
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ang1dust said:
HTC just tweeted, "ICS for thunderbolt is coming soon..."
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Lol you must have read my other post. They have been saying this since July mind you. Don't get your hopes up to high yet. Verizon can always shoot it down.
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I was under the impression that Verizon already had HTC's ICS. It is Verizon that is not releasing the software.
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HTC has been posting that same twitter reply since they was testing the test build back in April lol.
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Bout time, cant really find a phone that with a better radio and easy of use rootwise than the tb plus the darn thing will run any app and setting I toss at it.
If they only would hurry up and updrade it or shut up and admit that they built a monster that they cannot code for.
Its okay to admit failure you f'ing retards. Its the first phone of its kind and you were not prepared for it. (i.e. HateTC and VZW)
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ICS = Inadequate Customer Support
Of course they have happily provided that to TBolt owners for almost 2 years now.
Yes I still rock the Thunderbolt. You gotta problem with that?

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/12/1...-ice-cream-sandwich-update-will-be-here-soon/
Mind you i dont think there ar emany left in the thunderbolt area, but i cant wait to see it.

If an update doesn't come within a year of Google releasing it, it shouldn't count as an update.
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disconnecktie said:
Lol you must have read my other post. They have been saying this since July mind you. Don't get your hopes up to high yet. Verizon can always shoot it down.
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That is certainly true but I also suspect that HTC wouldn't bother devoting any resources to developing s/w for a phone if a carrier has even a remote chance of shooting it down.

hallstevenson said:
That is certainly true but I also suspect that HTC wouldn't bother devoting any resources to developing s/w for a phone if a carrier has even a remote chance of shooting it down.
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I remember a few months ago there were rumors htc finished the build and was waiting on Verizon's approval.
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If you call HTC they mostly say Verizon has it. Then if you call Verizon they say waiting on HTC.
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Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.

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Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.
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From what I understand it is but the build was a very incomplete rom.
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Not before the end of the world!

hallstevenson said:
Was the leak from ihtfp69 (TeamBamf) legitimate ? It was real nice other than the suck-the-life-out-of-battery kernel it had.
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My understanding, right or wrong, was that HTC/VZW released some T-Bolts with an ICS "soak test" to around maybe 100 people? I applied too late to get in on it. The phone came with an NDA that apparently was almost iron clad as there were NO leaks at all until after the test ended and the test phones were returned.
It's my belief that the TeamBAMF leak was from one of those phones, someone may have copied it to his/her/it's PC and leaked it AFTER the test had closed and AFTER he/she/it had learned how to remove the identifying bits so that he/she/it wouldn't be subject to enforcement of the NDA.
I may be wrong, the above is merely pieced together from what I've read here and elsewhere.
FWIW, I ran the leak and had the usual short battery life BUT..... Later I restored the backup I'd made and, after a couple of days, the battery life improved a huge amount, it became about the same as other ICS ROMS.
As always, YMMV.

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From what I understand it is but the build was a very incomplete rom.
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They probably had the same issues as the devs did and can't figure it out but it's on the back burner and not forgotten. I hope
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At this point, I would be pretty surprised if ICS was released at all. I found that ICS, combined with Sense 4, is too much for the phone to handle smoothly. And I'm sure it would be worse when the typical Verizon bloat is added. Some work could probably be done to make it smoother and more power efficient, but I don't think that struggling HTC has any motivation to expend development resources on a phone that's rapidly approaching its second birthday.
Most Thunderbolt owners are able to upgrade now, or at least will be in the next couple months. Most people probably will -- and might even get a DNA. At least that's what HTC hopes!
I blame HTC for turning their backs on their customers and I will never buy another HTC product. They probably won't be around much longer anyway.

They have promised ICS for the Bolt several times before. I got tired of waiting, upgraded to Droid Maxx HD. 3 days after buying it Verizon pushed out Jelly Bean. Wow it was nice to actually get an update that fast!!!!

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Most Thunderbolt owners are able to upgrade now, or at least will be in the next couple months. Most people probably will -- and might even get a DNA. At least that's what HTC hopes!
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If they wanted me to get a DNA they'd have given it a removable battery and an SD card slot, as it is it's totally useless to me.

For Those Upgrading To The HTC DNA

I've been searching for the lowest prices for the HTC DNA and stumbled upon this deal and figured I'd share it with you guys.
The HTC DNA for only $119.99... probably the best deal out there right now.
If you use coupon code TALK4TEN it MIGHT lower the price to $99.99, but it didn't work for me. Anyways, I figured it would maybe be worth a shot for you since it has worked for many other people... but it MAY have expired.
Enjoy guys.
http://www.justmywireless.com/DROID-DNA-by-HTC--4G-LTE-Verizon-Wireless_p_124.html
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That price is so low, it's like a trick you play on old people!
I just posted this.

Why would anyone buy another HTC phone after this? Maybe you'll get Android 5 in 2015.

lukesed said:
Why would anyone buy another HTC phone after this? Maybe you'll get Android 5 in 2015.
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More like the latest jelly bean a year after it's released, then an announced update to key lime pie that never arrives.
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I recently decided I'd just wait for the M7 in February.
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The thunderbolt is horrible I can't believe I'm stuck with this cricket like phone!
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My Thunderbolt is not horrible. I am a power user and while I have had problems with mine, the worst issues were with custom roms. Data drops were fixed with a new SIM card. I do have an extended battery that lasts all day. I was ready to throw this phone against a wall when I kept having issues with different roms. I had to remove root because the company I work for requires MobileIron to connect to our exchange server. Since I have been back to factory condition the phone actually works pretty well!
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braxtoq said:
My Thunderbolt is not horrible. I am a power user and while I have had problems with mine, the worst issues were with custom roms. Data drops were fixed with a new SIM card. I do have an extended battery that lasts all day. I was ready to throw this phone against a wall when I kept having issues with different roms. I had to remove root because the company I work for requires MobileIron to connect to our exchange server. Since I have been back to factory condition the phone actually works pretty well!
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Agreed! I love my TB. I have flashed so many ROMS i can not even keep them all straight. I have been stuck with Liquid ICS for a few months and it has been FANTASTIC! I flashed the most recent dual radio last night and hope it clears up the data in/out issues i have had. I would love them to fix the video camara and netflix at some point but from what i read Liquid isn't working on the project anymore. Is that true?
I have an extended battery and with Liquid i get at the very least 16 hours of use including some standby time. Liquid's rom made a world of difference on battery life.
In any case i am fairly new to this forum. Played over at CM with their rom for a while and still have it on my Touchpad. Love that rom!
Anybody know of a good rom for Droid X by Motorola? I rooted and installed one on my wifes a few months back but know it isnt perfect. I cant recall what it is at the moment but if anyone has had a good experience with a Droid X rom please share.

joelfranke said:
Agreed! I love my TB. I have flashed so many ROMS i can not even keep them all straight. I have been stuck with Liquid ICS for a few months and it has been FANTASTIC! I flashed the most recent dual radio last night and hope it clears up the data in/out issues i have had. I would love them to fix the video camara and netflix at some point but from what i read Liquid isn't working on the project anymore. Is that true?
I have an extended battery and with Liquid i get at the very least 16 hours of use including some standby time. Liquid's rom made a world of difference on battery life.
In any case i am fairly new to this forum. Played over at CM with their rom for a while and still have it on my Touchpad. Love that rom!
Anybody know of a good rom for Droid X by Motorola? I rooted and installed one on my wifes a few months back but know it isnt perfect. I cant recall what it is at the moment but if anyone has had a good experience with a Droid X rom please share.
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Off rootz wiki .. they have many good ones. From vortex remix to wizard's miui gb. Those are great for battery and being a daily driver. I have miui on mine still...
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Droid DNA , GalaxyIII and Galaxy Note 2
It looks like that same website (justmywireless.com) is having a one day only sale on the 18th.
They do not show the promotional prices yet
Judging by the reply in the blog, I am assuming it's going to be a big sale
I've been wanting to get the DNA, I guess I will wait until the 18th
Thanks for the link

up2nuttn said:
It looks like that same website (justmywireless.com) is having a one day only sale on the 18th.
They do not show the promotional prices yet
Judging by the reply in the blog, I am assuming it's going to be a big sale
I've been wanting to get the DNA, I guess I will wait until the 18th
Thanks for the link
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As a DNA user who loves his phone, it's arty if you're going to wait till the 18th I'd wait till the m7 odds announced on the 19th just to see if and when it's coming to Verizon. That's just me, but unless you're hellbent on the DNA, ous wait to see if the DNA+ it's right around the corner.
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vdChild said:
As a DNA user who loves his phone, it's arty if you're going to wait till the 18th I'd wait till the m7 odds announced on the 19th just to see if and when it's coming to Verizon. That's just me, but unless you're hellbent on the DNA, ous wait to see if the DNA+ it's right around the corner.
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I went back to the site (justmywireless.com) to see if there were any hints as to the sale price. They have it in sneak peek mode...I picked up the DNA for me and Galaxy 3's for my wife and son.....I paid $160 for all 3!!
They even have Galaxy 3 (white and brown) renewed units for free with upgrade....I was seriosuly thinking of going that route for my son, but in the end paid 44.99 for his new one.
The m7 is going to be priced too high I'm sure, that's why I didn't wait.

What is the catch here?
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arizonaomnia said:
What is the catch here?
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hopefully none! I should be getting my order on tuesday, so I will let you know

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hopefully none! I should be getting my order on tuesday, so I will let you know
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I remember hearing that the deals on wirefly and amazon were so good because their penalties were so high and because they technically count as a premium reseller, and thus you have to go to then with warranty issues and whatnot instead of going to Verizon. I wonder if this reseller is the same.
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