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okay. so i overclocked my wizzy to 312 right... for the past few days it was doing good.. but today.. i noticed that it wouldnt automatically turn off even though i had the timers set... then i noticed that the ilauncher battery indicator was blank.. then i noticed the battery status indicator said -1%... i soft reset, hard reset, uninstalled and everything i could... ok.. so now here i am.. no clue where my battery is at... my device is now stock.. meaning nothing installed but battery status... and im not overclocking. any ideas on how to get 'er back to normal?
try draining the battery completely, til your wizard dies, then recharge it. This will 'cycle' the battery. You may have to perform this procedure a few times.
I had a Wizard for a bit (it was the T-Mo US MDA G4 variant). I recall that whenever I tried overclocking beyond 240MHz it would be OK for quite a bit then always ended in a horrible freeze up! I darn near bricked the device... Actually, I really thought it was completely done for one time! I believe I managed to get out of that particular hole by putting it into bootloader mode (can't remember the key combo to do it but I am certain it is in the XDA-dev wiki) then reflashing the ROM. There are a couple of different special programmer modes that special key combos can put it in, and I remember somehow trying them and managing to jog it into life just enough to reflash with the stock ROM. Thankfully, that saved the device (but not my data) but it was a close one!
I can quite understand you wanting overclock to the max. Yep. there are many warnings not to overclock too high or one risks frying the Wizard... I ignored them too! The Wizard is a nice device but the 200MHz processor is a little bit of a weak point (makes for good battery life though, which I am sure was the intention) Best of luck. Hopefully you can get up and running again. Assuming you do (fingers crossed) I suggest trying to live with 240MHz and if that really doesn't cut it for you, maybe start saving those pennies for your next phone!
The battery drain-out suggestion posted sounds good too... whatever can get you up and running is good at this point!
Sorry to bump the thread, just thought of something else. I can't recall if the Wizard has a reserve power battery hidden away inside it, but for what it's worth... another time I had a device where the screen stopped resonding completely and hard resets did not help. Looked like it was warranty service time for sure. Then I tried taking the battery out and leaving it out overnight, then putting it back and doing a hard reset. Hey presto, screen worked, no service required.
The battery cycling suggestion is basically the same idea, I am just adding it may be worth leaving it completely drained and without power for a few hours before recharging so that any charge stored in the device can completely clear. Once again... good luck!
I had the same problem. Just to see if it's exacly the same check if there is info about radio when wizard is starting (gsm ....). If not just flash your wizard with radio (in my case only 1.31 worked).
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okay. so i overclocked my wizzy to 312 right... for the past few days it was doing good.. but today.. i noticed that it wouldnt automatically turn off even though i had the timers set... then i noticed that the ilauncher battery indicator was blank.. then i noticed the battery status indicator said -1%... i soft reset, hard reset, uninstalled and everything i could... ok.. so now here i am.. no clue where my battery is at... my device is now stock.. meaning nothing installed but battery status... and im not overclocking. any ideas on how to get 'er back to normal?
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You obviously missed this UBER important thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295277
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demontefixo said:
You obviously missed this UBER important thread... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295277
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nope.. i missed no warnings... i heard every single one.. but there were mixes of stories of some who had success at 312 and i felt i might be one of the chosen.... apparently not.. so i'm at work now. the battery died completely last night on me.. and none of my charging options at home worked (USB plugged into the computer).. i got the orange light for a minute or two... then it went out compltely.. haven't seen the boot screen since last night.. so now i'm at work with my charger going to work on the batter.. it's been about 20 mins and still no light.. if not.. i'll call cingular with a "warranty request". *smiles*
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.. i'll call cingular with a "warranty request". *smiles*
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Reminds me of a "friend" (not me) of a "friend" (not me) who had a Wizard (not mine) and attempted to do an antenna boost thingy (not mine/I wouldn't) and totally botched it (I'd never even try that) then stuck it back together with some glue (despicable/I was shocked!) and returned it to the store.
I hope I made it clear this was a friend of my friend and absoutely was not me? Oh, and I tried to stop them! ...yeah, that's how it was....
Shame on you btate0121
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nope.. i missed no warnings... i heard every single one.. but there were mixes of stories of some who had success at 312 and i felt i might be one of the chosen.... apparently not.. so i'm at work now. the battery died completely last night on me.. and none of my charging options at home worked (USB plugged into the computer).. i got the orange light for a minute or two... then it went out compltely.. haven't seen the boot screen since last night.. so now i'm at work with my charger going to work on the batter.. it's been about 20 mins and still no light.. if not.. i'll call cingular with a "warranty request". *smiles*
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Did you tried the "pull out the batttery before pluging in the charger and after a few seconds inserting the battey" thing ?
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Reminds me of a "friend" (not me) of a "friend" (not me) who had a Wizard (not mine) and attempted to do an antenna boost thingy (not mine/I wouldn't) and totally botched it (I'd never even try that) then stuck it back together with some glue (despicable/I was shocked!) and returned it to the store.
I hope I made it clear this was a friend of my friend and absoutely was not me? Oh, and I tried to stop them! ...yeah, that's how it was....
Shame on you btate0121
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Yeah, that's the ticket!!! LMAO!!!
i feel so horribly guilty.. i'm so sorry. i promise.. after this time i'll never do it again.. we swears it.. on.. on.. The Precious!! yeah.. i got my replacement today.. problem is... STILL NOT WORKING.. i feel like a fool.. the whole time it was the battery and not the phone.. so now i'm faced with a delima.. now i can go and try to get my battery replaced which the local stores say they don't have.. so i'd have to take a long hike to the local exchange spot. i'm going to send the phone back though.. since it's the battery.. but a valuable lesson has been learned.. i'm going back to wm5 and relocking the phone.. having the new roms is great... but if something goes wrong.. i'd like to have my support.
Well, in a way that is good news it turned out to be the battery, apart the fact that getting your hands on another one sounds like at least a mild nuisance.
I am stating the obvious here, and I am sure your have already mulled this over. It sounds like the Wizard isn't really meeting your needs. I choose to have a large contacts database and other stuff on my phone. In combination with the 200MHz CPU, the Wizard wasn't really the right device for me. I am not criticizing the Wizard, just saying it wan't right for me.
An upgrade to the Hermes or somthing similar might be a good bet. But I know it's all more cash... and quite a bit of it too! Again, this is obvious stuff and I am sure you have considered this already.
For what it is worth I would do much the same in your situation. I'd consider this a close call and stick with the stock ROM for a bit, at least while I thought over my options and made sure everything is definitely OK with a new battery.
Best of luck
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i feel so horribly guilty.. i'm so sorry. i promise.. after this time i'll never do it again.. we swears it.. on.. on.. The Precious!! yeah.. i got my replacement today.. problem is... STILL NOT WORKING.. i feel like a fool.. the whole time it was the battery and not the phone.. so now i'm faced with a delima.. now i can go and try to get my battery replaced which the local stores say they don't have.. so i'd have to take a long hike to the local exchange spot. i'm going to send the phone back though.. since it's the battery.. but a valuable lesson has been learned.. i'm going back to wm5 and relocking the phone.. having the new roms is great... but if something goes wrong.. i'd like to have my support.
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remedied... got my hands on another battery.. you guys are great. thanks for all the advice.. i'm actually considering the 8525.(it's been on my mind) but that extra cash... i don't know.. the wife and i are considering another little one.. soooo.. perhaps. Thanks again everyone!
Best of luck if you go for another little one. Kids are totally great and much more important that any phone! Now let me see what I would do with my hard earned cash, give even more money to Cingular or spend it on my family hmmmm.... I'd give it to Cingular. NOT!
The way I personally see it is your Wizard is a great phone and, hey, we all know that give it just a bit longer there is gonna be some another device out we all want instead of a Hermes/8525 or whatever takes our personal fancy! That is just how it is for us gadget freaks! Post-poning an upgrade for as long as one can stand it is often a win-win really!
Maybe you are right to keep you Wiz more to stock specs and get the support and make it last out for a bit. I know the overclock wasn't the problem after all, but I would imagine that cranking it high might at least shorten its life. Personally I think I would at least roll back on that one. 312 was pretty darn speedy! (Impressive, but gosh, that is seriously turbo!)
I spent bunch of cash on my Trinity and have just hopped to Cingy to get the 3G. But to be honest, I don't even pick up the 3G in lots of places yet. I really like the phone and everything. But was it really worth the money...?Truthfully? No. It was an absurd purchase. I just decided not to think about that and buy it anyway!
Anyhow, good luck with everything all round
My fiance is having problems with her phone randomly rebooting. I just updated it to the most recent firmware update, so that shouldn't be the problem, but something obviously is. She wasn't getting much out of her battery life either, usually only a couple hours or so.
What can I do about it to keep her from spending money we don't have on a new phone, other than root it? She won't let me root it and set it up like mine, mostly because she's stubborn.
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My fiance is having problems with her phone randomly rebooting. I just updated it to the most recent firmware update, so that shouldn't be the problem, but something obviously is. She wasn't getting much out of her battery life either, usually only a couple hours or so.
What can I do about it to keep her from spending money we don't have on a new phone, other than root it? She won't let me root it and set it up like mine, mostly because she's stubborn.
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root it when shes asleep or explain the firmware update broke her phone blame it on the software and youre never at fault
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root it when shes asleep or explain the firmware update broke her phone blame it on the software and youre never at fault
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haha, i wish that would work.
Trade her phones tell her you unrooted your phone so she could have it and the root hers. Just an Idea
It looks like she's even got to pull the battery to get the thing to start back up when it shuts down. The charging port seems loose to me, but it charges the battery just fine so I'm not sure that's part of the problem.
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It looks like she's even got to pull the battery to get the thing to start back up when it shuts down. The charging port seems loose to me, but it charges the battery just fine so I'm not sure that's part of the problem.
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Try a different micro usb cable.
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Try a different micro usb cable.
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I did. It still felt loose even using my cable, which doesn't feel loose in my phone.
She won't want to go through the hassle of talking to tech support to get a new phone, and they'll try to make her take it to a repair center
I put her battery in my phone for the day, and it just shut down, so that was part of the problem.
She said her phone was still dead in like 4 hours today, and that was using my battery which I've had very good luck with.
I think she uses her phone a LOT for facebook and texting, but 4 hours still seems awfully short for battery life
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I put her battery in my phone for the day, and it just shut down, so that was part of the problem.
She said her phone was still dead in like 4 hours today, and that was using my battery which I've had very good luck with.
I think she uses her phone a LOT for facebook and texting, but 4 hours still seems awfully short for battery life
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Buy these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005YTOV6G/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
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Buy these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005YTOV6G/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
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now she says she didn't use her phone at all this morning and it only got 4 hours (on my good battery). I think she's got a rogue app or something using a ton of battery, but it doesn't ever show up in the battery stats. there's no way she'd let me do a factory reset on it again lol.
I'll send her the link on the batteries, but she won't buy them I'm sure. She wants a new phone too badly now.
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now she says she didn't use her phone at all this morning and it only got 4 hours (on my good battery). I think she's got a rogue app or something using a ton of battery, but it doesn't ever show up in the battery stats. there's no way she'd let me do a factory reset on it again lol.
I'll send her the link on the batteries, but she won't buy them I'm sure. She wants a new phone too badly now.
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Possibly, or your batteries might be a year old and starting to go.
Trust me buy those batteries. They're great. And only $7.
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Possibly, or your batteries might be a year old and starting to go.
Trust me buy those batteries. They're great. And only $7.
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I figured out what I think was wrong with her other battery. The contacts were set too deep inside the battery casing, so any bump at the wrong angle caused them to lose connection. That's why I don't trust second hand batteries, no matter how good other people say they are.
Both her original battery and my original battery work perfectly fine in my phone, both give me a day and a half. So I know it's not the batteries, it's something wrong with her phone.
Heck, I even offered to switch phones with her, and she said she didn't want mine even though it's exactly the same phone and even newer.
women, just can't please them.
Try
Backup
Factory reset
Take the newest update.
My wife has a stock shift huge battery improvement
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women, just can't please them.
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I know all too well. Take it in to a sprint repair center and have it repaired, if they cannot repair it they will order you a replacement phone.
Make sure you have TEP on your plan before you go in.
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I know all too well. Take it in to a sprint repair center and have it repaired, if they cannot repair it they will order you a replacement phone.
Make sure you have TEP on your plan before you go in.
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She's a sprint employee so she's got somewhat different rules on that mess. I'd rather they just send her a new phone since we're too far from a repair center, or so I told Sprint the last 4 times I had to replace my Shift lol.
tatonka_hero said:
She's a sprint employee so she's got somewhat different rules on that mess. I'd rather they just send her a new phone since we're too far from a repair center, or so I told Sprint the last 4 times I had to replace my Shift lol.
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If she's a sprint employee she should get the benefits of the Sprint wireless advantage club and so should you.
Details here:
http://www.sprint.com/landings/advantage_club/?ECID=vanity:advantageclub
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If she's a sprint employee she should get the benefits of the Sprint wireless advantage club and so should you.
Details here:
http://www.sprint.com/landings/advantage_club/?ECID=vanity:advantageclub
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yeah, I know. Doesn't change much when it comes to problem phones other than the fact that you absolutely have to go to a Sprint owned repair center and not a store run by another company. That's where the distance factor comes in and the working with tech support to convince them it's too far to drive lol
Hi all
Sometimes, my Atrix 2 will just freeze when the screen is off, and obviously won't come back on until the battery is pulled and reinserted. (draining it at the same time). It seems to have happened the most when airplane mode was turned on.
I'm afraid all this battery pulling will make the cover loose.
Does it happen with anyone of you?
thanks
EDIT: I'm on 2.3.6 stock, non root.
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Hi all
Sometimes, my Atrix 2 will just freeze when the screen is off, and obviously won't come back on until the battery is pulled and reinserted. (draining it at the same time). It seems to have happened the most when airplane mode was turned on.
I'm afraid all this battery pulling will make the cover loose.
Does it happen with anyone of you?
thanks
EDIT: I'm on 2.3.6 stock, non root.
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I have never experienced such a problem... So it just freezes while it sleeping? I have one idea but it's kind of stupid, there is an option under display, that says lock in pocket. Try unchecking that, I've had other people tell me that their phone freezes up afterwards...
You might have to do a warranty exchange.
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You might have to do a warranty exchange.
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I've written "drain" but it's not much of a drain - from 100 to 60% in a whole night. A true drain would be with the phone going from full to empty in a couple hours and getting very hot in the process.
I think the phone locks up for some reason during sleep and the cpu never goes into low power mode. As far as I can remember, this has happened only when it was bedtime, with the phone already put in airplane mode, and never in the long standby hours of the day while I work.
I hope this has something to do with software, and not hardware.
(A warranty replacement is out of question, as I'm not from the US...)
I'll try posting in the motorola forum, too.
100-60 overnight is a bit on the high side for drain if you are not using the phone. I would do a warranty swap.
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I've written "drain" but it's not much of a drain - from 100 to 60% in a whole night. A true drain would be with the phone going from full to empty in a couple hours and getting very hot in the process.
I think the phone locks up for some reason during sleep and the cpu never goes into low power mode. As far as I can remember, this has happened only when it was bedtime, with the phone already put in airplane mode, and never in the long standby hours of the day while I work.
I hope this has something to do with software, and not hardware.
(A warranty replacement is out of question, as I'm not from the US...)
I'll try posting in the motorola forum, too.
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It's probably something to do with the CPU govener. Try rooting, install bootstrap, then flashing the deodexed version of 2.3.6 found here. Just be sure to flash as a backup by placing it in \sdcard\clockworkmod\backup\. Select restore in clockwork and it should be there.
See if that gets rid of the problem You don't mid rooting right
Yes I mind rooting! Sorry!
I was just seeking for your experience, to know if you did by chance notice this behaviour/glitch... you keep telling me to do an exchange but it's obvious it's not an option for me, as you can see from the flag under my user name. Otherwise I would have got me a new atrix already. (Because of other minor annoyances)
I once had an acer liquid that started getting nuclear-fusion-hot and discharged in 2 hours each time, without the software taking a hit. Now that was hardware related.
As to my atrix2, I am sure it's not hardware related, because it happens only sometimes and in certain circumstances. One time, I turned it off and back on 5 secs after and it was already frozen. No way, we're not talking of hardware fault here.
Thats major drain overnight! I leave my phone on overnight and generally get about 1% drain per hour.
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WTF, either I can't speak my mind, or you don't read my posts!
It's not that I get a 40% drain every night. In fact I got it only once, last night, when I decided to leave the phone in deep coma after I found it unresponsive after just a few minutes it was turned off and in airplane mode (the time of brushing teeth and coming back to bed, FYI). In that circumstance I got the 40% drain, but otherwise i get a normal 5% drain like yours.
This thread is not on the battery drain, but on finding what causes the phone freezing while screen-off.
Thank you.
I have never heard of this happening on the A2.
When the phone freezes up, does it get hot at all? It's possible that your problem is hardware-related, but the only way to be sure of that is to make sure that it's not software-related...
It may possibly be one of the apps that you're using. If you're OK with it, then I highly recommend to begin with a hard reset. I write down all of the apps that I know I will need and then I reinstall them after the reset, then if I realize I need to use an app I don't have I install it.
Another thing to try is flashing the fxz. This will clear every single bit of data on your phone and reinstall stock 2.3.4. Then you can update to 2.3.6 and gradually regain your (necessary) apps as with the hard reset.
Sounds kinda like these reported bugs below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21817704&postcount=36
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21819590&postcount=37
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WTF, either I can't speak my mind, or you don't read my posts!
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You must not be able to communicate your thoughts very well then cause the post I responded to didn't make any mention of the fact it only happened once. And your first post said it happens "sometimes", meaning more than once. Sorry guy, i'm not a mind reader.
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I've written "drain" but it's not much of a drain - from 100 to 60% in a whole night.
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This thread is not on the battery drain, but on finding what causes the phone freezing while screen-off.
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I know what the thread is about, but you chose to share your experience with the battery draining issue not only in the first post but also in the once I quoted above which led me to believe this thread was about that as well so that's what I chose to respond to.
Thanks
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Sounds kinda like these reported bugs below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21817704&postcount=36
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21819590&postcount=37
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Yeah, sounds like that. What did you do to overcome it?
Do you use airplane mode at all?
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You must not be able to communicate your thoughts very well then cause the post I responded to didn't make any mention of the fact it only happened once. And your first post said it happens "sometimes", meaning more than once. Sorry guy, i'm not a mind reader.
I know what the thread is about, but you chose to share your experience with the battery draining issue not only in the first post but also in the once I quoted above which led me to believe this thread was about that as well so that's what I chose to respond to.
Thanks
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I think I made sufficiently clear that the draining was secondary to the freezing issue, and, in turn, that the freezing issue happened only sometimes... which, in my (surely flawed) understanding, is more often not the case than it is.
Anyways no problem man!
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Yeah, sounds like that. What did you do to overcome it?
Do you use airplane mode at all?
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Not sure what fixed it. I have done a couple things since then.
1.) Rooted <- not sure how this could fix a problem like this.
2.) Froze several apps with Titanium Backup. <- This one makes the most sense.
I never use airplane mode.
The other user (dk-v1) says that his softkey lights come on while the screen stays black.
I don't remember about the lights, probably one time they turned on, but don't remember right now.
About the black screen, I'm not sure what he means, but mine stays black and with backlight off.
From reading the OP...I would suspect that it could be an app that is trying to sync while in airplane mode. I would try troubleshooting (uninstalling one by one to see if the problem goes away) apps that sync, preferably the ones you installed. But if it still persists do a factory reset and start over. Good luck man!!!
my wife actually started having this problem with her inspire recently. I tracked it down to the no led app she was using. deleted it and everything has been fine since. so your issues could most definitely be app related.
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I think I made sufficiently clear that the draining was secondary to the freezing issue, and, in turn, that the freezing issue happened only sometimes... which, in my (surely flawed) understanding, is more often not the case than it is.
Anyways no problem man!
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I never said it was the primary issue......u said this thread wasnt about the draining issue, but since u brought it up in your op and subsequent posts its clear it was an issue so when somebody responds to one of the issues you're having, don't be a douchebag about it by saying "thats not what this thread is about". Trying to insult me by insenuating I don't read before I respond is no way to show appreciation for my attempt at helping you. It seemed you were under the impression that a 40% discharge overnight wasnt a major drain so I shared with you my experience thinking it would put yours into perspective.
But apparently explaining my thought process and posting your own quotes for you to see how/why I'd think what I thought isnt enough to knock you off your high horse so I'm over it, carry on. If you feel the need to respond any further you can pm me, no sense cluttering the thread any further.
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First of all, I'm happy to be a part of the site now. I'm not new to Android in any way, but have only decided to join a forum because Motorola tech is no help at all, and I can't figure it out on my own.
So here's the story. When I plug my Maxx HD in at night, it functions perfectly, and seems normal. Normal temperature and charge rate. Let's say for example it was at 50% when I plugged it in just before I went to bed at midnight or so. But when I wake up in the morning, the phone is powered off and doesn't register as charging. I unplug it, and it won't power up regularly, so most of the time I have to soft reset just to get the screen on. When it boots up, it runs smoothly like nothing happened. The battery is usually 5% or 10% higher than it was when I plugged it in many hours ago, so it's safe to assume it locks up and shuts down fairly quickly after I fall asleep. I have yet to be able to recreate this problem while I am awake. I have tried disabling, reenabling, and uninstalling just about everything, and the problem doesn't seem to relate to anything in the software. The curious thing is that this problem does not occur regularly. Sometimes, it will happen 3 nights in a row. Other times, it won't happen for a week.
A side effect of this, it seems, is that when it does decide to hold a charge, it will run from 100% to 90% and hold there for an hour or so, no matter how lightly or heavily I use it. Then, out of the blue, it will drop to around 60% or 70%, and the rest of the day will drop at a regular rate.
I've been searching for a solution for this problem for weeks and haven't found a valid answer other than "use a Motorola charger" "get a new phone" the always relevant "Have you tried an FDR?", and the typical answers from a bored Motorola employee about whether I've turned the phone off and on again.
To reply to those answers, yes, I've used a regular Motorola charger, Verizon's most powerful and expensive speed charger, and even the cheapest charger I can find and it still shuts off and won't charge no matter the charger. I currently use the Verizon charger because it is the most convenient and fastest charging.
No, I can't return it because the RMHD was a trade. I don't have the receipt of any documentation of the purchase. I had an S3 that I disliked because, let's be honest, Touchwiz is intrusive and irritating at times, and I was too lazy to try and find a working rom for it. I cold traded some guy that lived near me for his RMHD, phone for phone. No chargers, no receipts. just straight up trade. His still had the plastic on the screen, and he claimed he changed his mind about it as soon as he took it out of the box and thought it was too thick, and wanted an S3.
As for the FDR, yes I've done that 4 or 5 times now with no change.
So my question is, is this a hardware problem or a problem with the battery sensor? I'm tempted to say that the battery sensor is defective and protects the phone from overheat by shutting it down even when it's at normal temperature and won't take any more charge. But if that was the case, why doesn't it happen every night? Any help is appreciated, and I'm prepared to hear someone say "suck it up until the S4 or the Motorola X is released". Thanks for your help, and if I need to root my precious HD to fix it, I'm prepared to do so.
Sounds like there is an issue with your phone man, If you have already done FDR n whatnot and it still behaves the same, then not sure what else you could do to rectify that. If you have insurance on it you could put in a claim, it would cost money, but not as much as getting another phone.
Id say at this point though, why not unlock, root, try other roms, whatever. If for some reason it clears up running something else, then great! If not then you haven't lost anything but the time spent doing it. Id go for the 4.1.2 roms If you do, since they will have everything functioning, 4.2 roms are nice but not everything works yet (camcorder, HDR photos, voice search/transcribing, GPS issues, etc.)
I agree on the moto employees being lazy, they have 3 solutions to everything, FDR, reboot, FDR a ton of times in a row, its kind of insulting when they do that even after you say you already did it. "Hey I got a problem, I FDR, cleared this, rebooted, etc" - me "Did you FDR, clear that, reboot, etc??? Mine runs fine, must be something you did!" - Moto guy
Either way, let us know how it goes, and good luck, hope your issue gets resolved.
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Sounds like there is an issue with your phone man, If you have already done FDR n whatnot and it still behaves the same, then not sure what else you could do to rectify that. If you have insurance on it you could put in a claim, it would cost money, but not as much as getting another phone.
Id say at this point though, why not unlock, root, try other roms, whatever. If for some reason it clears up running something else, then great! If not then you haven't lost anything but the time spent doing it. Id go for the 4.1.2 roms If you do, since they will have everything functioning, 4.2 roms are nice but not everything works yet (camcorder, HDR photos, voice search/transcribing, GPS issues, etc.)
I agree on the moto employees being lazy, they have 3 solutions to everything, FDR, reboot, FDR a ton of times in a row, its kind of insulting when they do that even after you say you already did it. "Hey I got a problem, I FDR, cleared this, rebooted, etc" - me "Did you FDR, clear that, reboot, etc??? Mine runs fine, must be something you did!" - Moto guy
Either way, let us know how it goes, and good luck, hope your issue gets resolved.
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To put it simply, if there's ANY way I can determine if it's a software issue, I'd like to try it. A phone this expensive really has no excuse to have a hardware issue. I've heard the SIM reader can sometimes cause system problems, so I'll try blowing in the slot like an old N64 cartridge and seeing if maybe it misreads while charging and shuts off because of a speck of dust, or something ridiculous like that..
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Would it be worth reflashing the stock Motoblur 4.1.2? I used to run CM10 on the old GNexus, I'd love to use that again on my HD, if it's available.
As for a new phone, if need be, my upgrade happens to be right after the GS4 is released on Verizon so I might as well get that and then not have to worry about F-ing up my primary phone. I'm a little wary of rooting whatever my primary device is, because I've bricked a Bionic with a stupid mistake I made when I was new to Android.
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You could try reflashing the stock rom, and there is a couple CM10 unofficial builds floating around in the roms section. Of course there is always risk in doing anything, but they have a pretty good method for rooting/unlocking, so id say if you feel up to it, go for it.
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You could try reflashing the stock rom, and there is a couple CM10 unofficial builds floating around in the roms section. Of course there is always risk in doing anything, but they have a pretty good method for rooting/unlocking, so id say if you feel up to it, go for it.
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I changed that post after I found a little more info, btw.
I usually don't go for unofficial. The only 10.1 I could find was a 4.2 but call audio, camera, nfc, and wifi weren't working. I wish they had a timeframe on an official release. Moto phones never have enough support.
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I changed that post after I found a little more info, btw.
I usually don't go for unofficial. The only 10.1 I could find was a 4.2 but call audio, camera, nfc, and wifi weren't working. I wish they had a timeframe on an official release. Moto phones never have enough support.
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At this point, all CM builds are unofficial. All 10.1 builds are 4.2, 10.0 is 4.1. We are only going to get official when a proper kernel is ready and we have full functionality. 10.0 should have most everything working though, as the official moto builds are on 4.1.2. It does suck, Imagine if moto had never developed that ridiculous bootloader of theirs, we would be in great shape! But it is getting better, just everybody is starting from scratch now that its unlocked, so the pace seems slow.
If you don't mind the camcorder not working, the AOKP and Xenon HD builds are pretty awesome for 4.2. Best way to try them out is to put TWRP on and backup your stock, then you can switch between roms very easily and see if anything improves. The other recoveries should work the same as well, but ive only had experience with TWRP on this phone, and it works very well.
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First of all, I'm happy to be a part of the site now. I'm not new to Android in any way, but have only decided to join a forum because Motorola tech is no help at all, and I can't figure it out on my own.
So here's the story. When I plug my Maxx HD in at night, it functions perfectly, and seems normal. Normal temperature and charge rate. Let's say for example it was at 50% when I plugged it in just before I went to bed at midnight or so. But when I wake up in the morning, the phone is powered off and doesn't register as charging. I unplug it, and it won't power up regularly, so most of the time I have to soft reset just to get the screen on. When it boots up, it runs smoothly like nothing happened. The battery is usually 5% or 10% higher than it was when I plugged it in many hours ago, so it's safe to assume it locks up and shuts down fairly quickly after I fall asleep. I have yet to be able to recreate this problem while I am awake. I have tried disabling, reenabling, and uninstalling just about everything, and the problem doesn't seem to relate to anything in the software. The curious thing is that this problem does not occur regularly. Sometimes, it will happen 3 nights in a row. Other times, it won't happen for a week.
A side effect of this, it seems, is that when it does decide to hold a charge, it will run from 100% to 90% and hold there for an hour or so, no matter how lightly or heavily I use it. Then, out of the blue, it will drop to around 60% or 70%, and the rest of the day will drop at a regular rate.
I've been searching for a solution for this problem for weeks and haven't found a valid answer other than "use a Motorola charger" "get a new phone" the always relevant "Have you tried an FDR?", and the typical answers from a bored Motorola employee about whether I've turned the phone off and on again.
To reply to those answers, yes, I've used a regular Motorola charger, Verizon's most powerful and expensive speed charger, and even the cheapest charger I can find and it still shuts off and won't charge no matter the charger. I currently use the Verizon charger because it is the most convenient and fastest charging.
No, I can't return it because the RMHD was a trade. I don't have the receipt of any documentation of the purchase. I had an S3 that I disliked because, let's be honest, Touchwiz is intrusive and irritating at times, and I was too lazy to try and find a working rom for it. I cold traded some guy that lived near me for his RMHD, phone for phone. No chargers, no receipts. just straight up trade. His still had the plastic on the screen, and he claimed he changed his mind about it as soon as he took it out of the box and thought it was too thick, and wanted an S3.
As for the FDR, yes I've done that 4 or 5 times now with no change.
So my question is, is this a hardware problem or a problem with the battery sensor? I'm tempted to say that the battery sensor is defective and protects the phone from overheat by shutting it down even when it's at normal temperature and won't take any more charge. But if that was the case, why doesn't it happen every night? Any help is appreciated, and I'm prepared to hear someone say "suck it up until the S4 or the Motorola X is released". Thanks for your help, and if I need to root my precious HD to fix it, I'm prepared to do so.
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You could always ask Verizon and see if it's under warranty. These phones aren't a year old yet if I am correct. Rooting your device is not the best idea because it technically can void your warranty.
Keep calling. Email Motorola support. Contact your carriers Cs. Or just sell the thing on ebay.
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You could always ask Verizon and see if it's under warranty. These phones aren't a year old yet if I am correct. Rooting your device is not the best idea because it technically can void your warranty.
Keep calling. Email Motorola support. Contact your carriers Cs. Or just sell the thing on ebay.
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As I said in my post, I don't have a warranty, and I don't particularly care about a warranty. Motorola CS is pretty awful, they're all bored and don't really give a crap about your problems, unlike the friendly and caring service I've gotten from Samsung before. I don't want to sell it, seeing as how the RMHD is arguably the best phone on the market for the time being.
UPDATE: I uninstalled a RAM booster called Memory Booster - RAM Optimizer a few days ago, and have yet to have a charging problem. I had the booster set to auto clean the system garbage when the screen was off. I'm making an educated guess here, but I'd be tempted to say that it was killing one of the Android processes that keeps the phone awake while charging, and it would bug out and crash.
Long story short, if you're having a problem with an HD shutting down overnight, UNINSTALL ANY APP KILLERS, TASKERS, OR RAM BOOSTERS.
Hope this works.
Okay, so I thought I was in the clear. I was wrong. It definitely is less frequent, but my RMHD still continues to totally die every night. I've determined that it's definitely NOT a hardware problem. I'm convinced that it may be overheating at night and Android shuts it down for safety, and somehow locks it up in the process. Last night, I went to sleep with 20% battery, and plugged in. This morning it was totally dead and would only respond to a soft reset, booting into recovery, where I prompted a reboot. It started fine, showing 44% battery.
What the hell is going on? I went so far as to reflash Motoblur, and I tried Eclipse 4.1.2 and still had the same problem. Is it maybe an app that is hostile? Someone has to know how to fix this huge annoyance.
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Okay, so I thought I was in the clear. I was wrong. It definitely is less frequent, but my RMHD still continues to totally die every night. I've determined that it's definitely NOT a hardware problem. I'm convinced that it may be overheating at night and Android shuts it down for safety, and somehow locks it up in the process. Last night, I went to sleep with 20% battery, and plugged in. This morning it was totally dead and would only respond to a soft reset, booting into recovery, where I prompted a reboot. It started fine, showing 44% battery.
What the hell is going on? I went so far as to reflash Motoblur, and I tried Eclipse 4.1.2 and still had the same problem. Is it maybe an app that is hostile? Someone has to know how to fix this huge annoyance.
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Not hardware but it gets hot and shuts down? Sounds like hardware to me.
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Yeah sounds like hardware.
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Not hardware but it gets hot and shuts down? Sounds like hardware to me.
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It's not hardware. I reflashed stock 4.1 AGAIN, and have yet to have it screw up. It's been about a week and a half since. Motorola sent me a new charger just in case. I know you guys think it's hardware but for some reason I'm totally convinced that it was an app screwing with Android. I guess I'll find out sooner or later. Thanks for the feedback.
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Hey guys I've had my N5 for almost a year now but it seems to have gone kaput on me recently...
On Monday I was on a skype call, (just audio) when my phone suddenly restarted, I didn't pay much mind to it as that happened before and it would usually just cut back on, but this time, it restarted, and restarted and just didn't stop. That lead me to think its the power button being stuck so i checked it out and made sure its not being depressed and well yeah it wasn't. And soon after that the phones screen was sometimes on during the reboots and sometimes off. I knew it was rebooting because the N5 vibrates a bit when Google pops up on the loading screen in a certain way, but yeah now the screen doesn't light up at all, there's still vibrations and sounds like when I call or when I say Okay Google a few times, the LED will even light up during a call. I know the phone is "on and working" in the background but the screen doesn't light up and as such I can't touch it, any ideas and or advice friends?
bump de bump?
Possibly your backlight burnt out? Water damage?
if you are running cyanogenmod, you could be experiencing sod "sleep of death". thats when you know the phone is on and working, but the screen doesnt turn on. ive been reading lots of complaints about cm and the sod.
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Possibly your backlight burnt out? Water damage?
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As the phone kept rebooting it went from seeing everything, to seeing nothing but the back light to dark, so maybe? It was just by me on my desk too so I was doubtful about the water damage but I put it in the sealed rice bag for about 24 hours just in case but still no luck.
I actually am running cyanogenmod and whenever I do have a problem I always feel that its related to CM as the phone doesn't have any physical damage...maybe I should look into that, any other ideas friends?
P.S I am using the ElementalX Kernel and UNFORTUNATELY I turned on the FAST CHARGE USB option and that makes the phone play funny with the computer, if you guys have any advice as to how I could turn off that option please do let me know
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...l-06-03-14-one-click-factory-restore-t2513937
I used this tool to try and remove anything that could be bothering my phone, software wise, and I'm not sure if it wiped away Kernels and Roms but thought you guys should know, my computer now recognizes the phone and I can see folders and such, which are now empty.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...l-06-03-14-one-click-factory-restore-t2513937
I used this tool to try and remove anything that could be bothering my phone, software wise, and I'm not sure if it wiped away Kernels and Roms but thought you guys should know, my computer now recognizes the phone and I can see folders and such, which are now empty.
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all it does is completely wipe your phone and install an older android version. flashing the factory img will do the same, except youll get the newest android version. don't use these tools, doing things the right way will be more beneficial to you. anyways, since cm is having issues, try a different rom, or just go stock.
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all it does is completely wipe your phone and install an older android version. flashing the factory img will do the same, except youll get the newest android version. don't use these tools, doing things the right way will be more beneficial to you. anyways, since cm is having issues, try a different rom, or just go stock.
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Thats my problem though my screen is still untouchable or see able and it makes it hard to flash stuff since I can't properly use TWRP, and having the fast charge hack on my computer doesnt really sense im in USB Debug but I guesssss its off now though, but still no screen loving
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Thats my problem though my screen is still untouchable or see able and it makes it hard to flash stuff since I can't properly use TWRP, and having the fast charge hack on my computer doesnt really sense im in USB Debug but I guesssss its off now though, but still no screen loving
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if still no screen, its probably physically damaged(hit or factory damage). is an exchange possible?
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if still no screen, its probably physically damaged(hit or factory damage). is an exchange possible?
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Well i got mine through the Play Store and I did think about an RMA, I know there was that free screen replacement thing going on but the customer rep sounded like he had no idea what I was talking about. and I'm thinking its a flex cable issue as my phone hasn't incurred any damage from drops or bumps or anything since i make it a point to be stationary while using phone, but....where the sim card tray is, that "bridge" or thin piece on the bottom side toward the phone has split as a result of my bad sim card ejecting, but that was when i first obtained the phone, also there is another split, inside the phone there is a canopy above the charging port that is split but i still know that occurred long before this, and its not even an electrical piece along with the sim card bridge thing.
BUTTT yeah im afraid if I RMA they will use that as an excuse to charge me $400, even though I know it's not playing any sort of factor in my screen acting up....Is there a policy on that?
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Well i got mine through the Play Store and I did think about an RMA, I know there was that free screen replacement thing going on but the customer rep sounded like he had no idea what I was talking about. and I'm thinking its a flex cable issue as my phone hasn't incurred any damage from drops or bumps or anything since i make it a point to be stationary while using phone, but....where the sim card tray is, that "bridge" or thin piece on the bottom side toward the phone has split as a result of my bad sim card ejecting, but that was when i first obtained the phone, also there is another split, inside the phone there is a canopy above the charging port that is split but i still know that occurred long before this, and its not even an electrical piece along with the sim card bridge thing.
BUTTT yeah im afraid if I RMA they will use that as an excuse to charge me $400, even though I know it's not playing any sort of factor in my screen acting up....Is there a policy on that?
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ive rma'ed before, google is really good about it. i sent my nexus 7 back with a custom recovery, rom, kernel.. and the thing going on with google and exchanging the n5 once without question, isnt about the screen, its for anything.
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ive rma'ed before, google is really good about it. i sent my nexus 7 back with a custom recovery, rom, kernel.. and the thing going on with google and exchanging the n5 once without question, isnt about the screen, its for anything.
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I suppose I might as well shoot for it? Is there a way to decline paying for the device if they decide that I should pay?
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I suppose I might as well shoot for it? Is there a way to decline paying for the device if they decide that I should pay?
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send back the rma? honestly, i dont know. i dont know anyone thats ever had to pay. unless its obvious that you did something, youll be fine.
So when you hold down the power button and the vol - for about 15 seconds the bootloader screen doesn't show up? If so, yeah try to RMA.
I will chat it up with one of the customer service peeps and see what they think then, and maybe even hopefully one will know about the replace anything deal
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So when you hold down the power button and the vol - for about 15 seconds the bootloader screen doesn't show up? If so, yeah try to RMA.
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and yup Ik its in bootloader mode though because the computer beeps and tries installing drivers and what not and also because it does that single vibrate, but yeah the screen is still dark so I can't see my selections, I believe I can still actually make a selection though, just unable to see them
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and yup Ik its in bootloader mode though because the computer beeps and tries installing drivers and what not and also because it does that single vibrate, but yeah the screen is still dark so I can't see my selections, I believe I can still actually make a selection though, just unable to see them
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Check to make sure you have the newest drivers (there's a sticky in the general section with all the useful info). If you bought it from the play store see if you can get an RMA - Google seems to have a good rep with this. It wouldn't hurt to flash a factory image to erase everything either before sending it off (privacy and whatnot). If you have the newest TWRP (2.8.0.1) if you boot into recovery and you should be able to access the internal storage without having to select anything (in case there's anything there not backed up). Boot to recovery is volume down twice and power I think.
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Check to make sure you have the newest drivers (there's a sticky in the general section with all the useful info). If you bought it from the play store see if you can get an RMA - Google seems to have a good rep with this. It wouldn't hurt to flash a factory image to erase everything either before sending it off (privacy and whatnot). If you have the newest TWRP (2.8.0.1) if you boot into recovery and you should be able to access the internal storage without having to select anything (in case there's anything there not backed up). Boot to recovery is volume down twice and power I think.
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Well now that I used that tool I'm not sure if my recovery is still TWRP or if it's stock, it flashed a stock factory image I'm told, but that doesn't remove the Kernel and Recovery too does it? I wanna get it as stock as possible before I sent it out. At this point I believe it has a factory image but I can't say for sure about anything else
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Well now that I used that tool I'm not sure if my recovery is still TWRP or if it's stock, it flashed a stock factory image I'm told, but that doesn't remove the Kernel and Recovery too does it? I wanna get it as stock as possible before I sent it out. At this point I believe it has a factory image but I can't say for sure about anything else
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See here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701.