When a phone is hard bricked does it damage the hardware or just the software or maybe both?
CaLLm3LAzY- said:
When a phone is hard bricked does it damage the hardware or just the software or maybe both?
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Im pretty sure it only damages the software, but if anyone else is 100% sure, feel free to correct me.
When I decided to flash my phone i have thought about this too. I guessed that a bricked phone would only damage the firmware. So I thought if I ever get bricked, I would get the same phone and keep safe the bricked one for spare parts haha.
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^ You could always look into JTAG repair. A lot cheaper than buying a whole new phone (unless the phone was a $20 flip phone). Just an idea for the future.
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Hi, I have flashed many different roms with no problems on HD2 and Desire S. This evening I thought I would try another Rom (why oh why), so duly wiped and done the usual preparation, but this time it just stuck at HTC for over half an hour, tried rebooting but nothing, tried all the ways on the forum to restart without taking the battery out, in the end I made the stupid mistake of taking the battery out and putting it back in . Well you know the rest, dead phone fried chip I think.
Now my questions are 1) its on contract from Tmobile 6 months ago, the device is obviously S-off so am wondering if I can still get it fixed by them. 2) How much does it cost to have a fried emmc chip replaced if I send it to HTC.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I sent it to HTC without the battery and got a repaired phone free of charge
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Hi Dan. Can you tell me the process you went through and is your a contract phone
Can you boot into Recovery or Bootloader? The bootloop can be caused by many reasons, not only eMMC
Hi, can't boot into anything , the phone is just dead, doesn't do anything, no power.
correct me if im wrong but dosnt emmc failure still boot? im not 100% sure thats your problem
Ok, but I tried everything to power up with no luck, I know there was at least 80% battery when I used it, also nothing when I plug it in to the mains.
pandollar said:
Hi, can't boot into anything , the phone is just dead, doesn't do anything, no power.
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This is a completely bricked phone (whatever the reason that caused it). But in this case the repair cannot state that it is S-Off. So go ahead for a replacement. There is a way to unbrick it (JTAG), but never heard so far that the HTC repair centres use that - all the problematic devices were just replaced, not repaired. Good luck
Ok, I will have to try and get them to replace it then. Many thanks for your help.
amidabuddha said:
This is a completely bricked phone (whatever the reason that caused it). But in this case the repair cannot state that it is S-Off. So go ahead for a replacement. There is a way to unbrick it (JTAG), but never heard so far that the HTC repair centres use that - all the problematic devices were just replaced, not repaired. Good luck
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This is great..I have two bricked phones lying about that I have no idea what to do with...
virtu0s0 said:
This is great..I have two bricked phones lying about that I have no idea what to do with...
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Find a person in your area that owns a JTAG, there is a great chance to fix them.
I think I posted this in the wrong forum, I suppose I was a little confused on my phone
I have a US AT&T version of the i727 Skyrocket. I think i accidentally flashed an improper kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369977
I didn't realize I was browsing the wrong forum *sigh*.
Anyway, when I went to reboot after installing the kernel in CWM, I get a black screen. If I hold down both volume buttons and plug in USB, I get nothing. It doesn't seem to put it in download mode. There, it doesn't get recognized in ODIN.
What are my options here? Would a "jig" actually do anything in this case? I can't tell the scenarios it can actually recover from and not.
Hard brick, its done
Jtag or send to samsung
hedpe said:
I think I posted this in the wrong forum, I suppose I was a little confused on my phone
I have a US AT&T version of the i727 Skyrocket. I think i accidentally flashed an improper kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369977
I didn't realize I was browsing the wrong forum *sigh*.
Anyway, when I went to reboot after installing the kernel in CWM, I get a black screen. If I hold down both volume buttons and plug in USB, I get nothing. It doesn't seem to put it in download mode. There, it doesn't get recognized in ODIN.
What are my options here? Would a "jig" actually do anything in this case? I can't tell the scenarios it can actually recover from and not.
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If it does absolutely nothing, i'd say you bricked it which is quite possible if you flashed something for another phone. I don't think a jig will do you any good, based on things i've read before. Not 100%. Maybe someone else will give you some better input.
thanks for the replies. I can't get it in to download mode at all, so I'm afraid it's hard bricked.
Are there any guides to doing the jtag repair yourself? I'm pretty tech-savvy and comfortable opening up the phone, etc. I could get my hands on a jtag unit.
I just don't want to keep bricking it and sending it out for another $50. I'd rather have a solution where I can fix it myself.
hedpe said:
thanks for the replies. I can't get it in to download mode at all, so I'm afraid it's hard bricked.
Are there any guides to doing the jtag repair yourself? I'm pretty tech-savvy and comfortable opening up the phone, etc. I could get my hands on a jtag unit.
I just don't want to keep bricking it and sending it out for another $50. I'd rather have a solution where I can fix it myself.
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I don't know any off hand, but why would you keep bricking it?
xcrazydx said:
I don't know any off hand, but why would you keep bricking it?
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I'd hope not to, but on my first try I bricked it. I've never bricked my Nexus S after a ton of crappy kernels. Sigh...
Doesn't look like anyone has figured out a homebrew JTAG solution.
hedpe said:
I'd hope not to, but on my first try I bricked it. I've never bricked my Nexus S after a ton of crappy kernels. Sigh...
Doesn't look like anyone has figured out a homebrew JTAG solution.
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Well, jtag for this phone was just made possible only a month or two ago. There may be a guide somewhere, but I dunno. You flashed something from a completely different phone, any time you do that you are pretty much guaranteed a brick. Just pay attention to what you're doing, man. Read more and flash less.
xcrazydx said:
Well, jtag for this phone was just made possible only a month or two ago. There may be a guide somewhere, but I dunno. You flashed something from a completely different phone, any time you do that you are pretty much guaranteed a brick. Just pay attention to what you're doing, man. Read more and flash less.
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Right, understandable. Lesson learned there.
I can't tell if this is legitimate or not:
http://www.jtagbox.com/2012/03/page/2/
$50 isn't too bad. Obviously doing it yourself, if you could, would be better. I'd be on the safe side though and have mobiletech (i'm assuming you know about them), do it.
if a phone has been bricked and is given to a samsung service center while under warranty they replace it with a new one but what do they exactly do with the bricked phone?
do they somehow revive it using some of their secret mojo's?
or they use it for something else?
thnx
abizerl123 said:
if a phone has been bricked and is given to a samsung service center while under warranty they replace it with a new one but what do they exactly do with the bricked phone?
do they somehow revive it using some of their secret mojo's?
or they use it for something else?
thnx
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They usually don't give a new phone (unless its a major hardware defect)...they just replace the motherboard, and flash the latest official version available...and return it back...
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even if the phone is hard bricked??
changing the motherboard fixes the phone??
abizerl123 said:
even if the phone is hard bricked??
changing the motherboard fixes the phone??
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Yes
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The dead phone can be revived by replacing the motherboard, but this isnt done in most cases if they have given you a new phone.
Usually the dead phones are sold to other mobile phone shops or repair centers for salvaging parts..
actually hard bricked is that when the bootloader are removed from the mobile without bootloader the mobile cannot boot and it cannot be revived
but it doesn't mean that the everything is waste
they took the phone take out the important and costly things like camera, processor, ram, speaker, buttons etc.
and make another phone with them
thnx for letting me know guys
one day a guy whose phone was bricked and got it replaced met a guy who got a new phone:
New phone guy: check my new mobile out bro
Brickd phone guy: Hey!!! that's mine!!
LoL
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I had CM9 On my rooted Samsung Galaxy S3, and my phone would crash randomly in the middle of changing songs on playerpro or in the middle of phone calls, so I tried to download SiyahKernel hoping it would add some stability to my ROM. Well I had 2 different versions of the kernel somehow. One was SiyahKernel 3.something, and the other was 2.5. I assumed the 3.something would be for the S3 and the 2 something was a false download that I got on accident and was made for the S2 or something, but when I tried to flash the 3.something it didn't work, versus when I tried flashing the 2.5 it installed perfectly fine. So, here's the fun part...when I went to reboot my phone it died COMPLETELY. I can't start the phone in download mode to odin it, can't get into recovery to flash an old nandroid. Phone won't turn on, won't charge, will do absolutely nothing, and I know for sure the battery was charged to 90% when it crapped out. I've done battery pulls, I actually did a 3 hour battery pull at one point...I don't have insurance, and I don't have the $$$ to go buy another phone, so if anyone has some ideas on how I could either get my phone back operational, or a cheaper solution (like a jigg) it would be MUCH appreciated. I wasn't just a noob jumping into it on my S3, I've been rooting, romming, and flashing **** since 2009, and it's my 10th smartphone, but my first brick ever. Please help!
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If you can't get into odin mode or recovery then your phone is deffo hard bricked n will be costly to repair mate. Be careful flashing kernels n use odin to do it not recovery mode
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I had the gs2 and I was trying to unroot it and I couldn't even get Odin to work because it didn't recognize the phone. So I called samsung and told them that got an update, but after it finish updating it cut off and never came on, and the battery was fully charged. So, if I was you I'll go that route. And good luck
droidstyle said:
search jtag.
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Could I do the JTAG process MYSELF, or is paying them 60 dollars the only way to solve my problem?
That seems like the only way to fix this, because as of right now I seem pretty much screwed.
Atreux said:
Could I do the JTAG process MYSELF, or is paying them 60 dollars the only way to solve my problem?
That seems like the only way to fix this, because as of right now I seem pretty much screwed.
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I think you need equipment to do it.
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Note for the future: always a good idea to carry the cheaper (just asurion) insurance if your gonna root and flash. It's $5.18/month. A quick "oops I drove over my phone, or its on the bottom of the Atlantic", and boom.. New phone for a C note.
Sorry for no solution, it's more for others reading post.
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mustbepbs said:
I think you need equipment to do it.
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annoyingduck said:
Note for the future: always a good idea to carry the cheaper (just asurion) insurance if your gonna root and flash. It's $5.18/month. A quick "oops I drove over my phone, or its on the bottom of the Atlantic", and boom.. New phone for a C note.
Sorry for no solution, it's more for others reading post.
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This post is ridiculous. Asurion blows, never have had a good experience with them over using 5 phones insured by them. Only ever had 2 crap out on me (hardware-wise. If it was ever software related I did it, and knew exactly how to handle it, but the 2 that were done were spidered screens). They gave me a broken refurbished evo back for the very first phone I ever had that I rooted, rommed, and hacked on for DAYS trying to learn the entire process...all those manhours and they send me a refurbished phone with nothing on it, and a screwed up LCD digitzer...do NOT recommend asurion whatsoever, and will never use them again no matter what carrier I go with.
mikey banner said:
If you can't get into odin mode or recovery then your phone is deffo hard bricked n will be costly to repair mate. Be careful flashing kernels n use odin to do it not recovery mode
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Why would you use odin to flash a kernel? I use cwm all the time for roms and kernels alike. Odin for radios or to return to stock. Cwm does everything else I need it to do. Same mistake could have been made on a computer guy downloaded two kernels and flashed the wrong one.
OP I am sorry for your loss.
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annoyingduck said:
Note for the future: always a good idea to carry the cheaper (just asurion) insurance if your gonna root and flash. It's $5.18/month. A quick "oops I drove over my phone, or its on the bottom of the Atlantic", and boom.. New phone for a C note.
Sorry for no solution, it's more for others reading post.
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imo insurance fraud is not the right answer. the right thing to do is research then flash, dont flash then research. ofcourse its now standard in america to be bailed out for every mistake we make, so perhaps your right.... I have yet to cave in and accept this kind of mentality.
The profit margins these companies make is ridiculous to begin with. It's not fraud, the only thing that may be considered even close to it is claiming that the phone is missing or damaged beyond repair due to something that was out of your control. Non the less your insurance covers all these avenues twice a year.
In reality, a bricked phone should be covered under insurance, and I'm sure if you have the proper legal knowledge you could argue that further and make them cover it without having to tell a white lie. Insurance is simple, covering a loss. And a loss is technically a brick (that's not open for debate either, that's correct), but there is a loophole they use where they can refuse to honor a claim if they feel to do so (hence modifications).
F that. I pay for insurance, I do my part. Not to mention when I actually signed up for the insurance, I asked the vzw rep if a rooted phone is covered, and his response was exactly this: don't take a chance, smash it up and send it back, or disappear the device.
I do not abuse or condone anything of what I said, I have yet to make a claim, but be assured, if I brick my device after 5 years of carrying ins. I am getting my money's worth out of it.
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I wanted to know what cellphones to go with that are hard or near impossible to brick as I have a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate and flash it so many times and even tried to brick one but there was always a way to unbrick it. Is it just good documentation or the phone it self? or is no such thing as a unbrickable phone?
osalot said:
I wanted to know what cellphones to go with that are hard or near impossible to brick as I have a Samsung Galaxy S Captivate and flash it so many times and even tried to brick one but there was always a way to unbrick it. Is it just good documentation or the phone it self? or is no such thing as a unbrickable phone?
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If nothing helps --> Take a hammer to brick it...
LS.xD said:
If nothing helps --> Take a hammer to brick it...
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I'm not looking to brick a cellphone just looking for a newer cellphone that would be hard to brick as I had to many phones die by incorrectly flashing it or something goes wrong and ends up bricked and only fixable by the manufacturer so far only phone I had come across or heard about is the Samsung Galaxy S Captivate. But that cellphone is getting old quick and any helpful info on some cellphones to choose from would be greatly appreciated.