Best way to migrate to SSD? - General Questions and Answers

I just recently bought a new 128 GB Kingston SSD. I have an Alienware M14x R1. My plan is to use the SSD as the primary boot drive and use the current HDD (Seagate Momentus XT 750 GB Hybrid Drive) as a secondary storage drive by replacing the optical disc drive with the Seagate HHDD.
Is there anyway to migrate Windows to the SSD without having to re-install everything? Some of the applications I have right now probably cannot be installed again because I'll reach the license key limit. That's why I'd prefer to just simply migrate everything over. But that's going to be about 500 GB of data to migrate over.
Or is the performance of the Seagate Hybrid Drive good enough that I don't necessarily need to use the SSD as a primary boot drive and I can use that as the secondary storage. Perhaps even in a RAID setup?
Thanks for the advice and suggestions!

I suggest you to install a fresh copy of Windows on the SSD. Also install all programs you can install again on it. Doing that will ensure you don't have any align problems due to the migration (which can decrease performance).
And then you can keep the programs you can't reinstall again on the secondary drive, which would be the Seagate.

romitkin said:
I suggest you to install a fresh copy of Windows on the SSD. Also install all programs you can install again on it. Doing that will ensure you don't have any align problems due to the migration (which can decrease performance).
And then you can keep the programs you can't reinstall again on the secondary drive, which would be the Seagate.
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For the programs that I leave behind on the Seagate Hybrid Drive, would I still be able to run them while booted into the fresh copy of Windows? A lot of those programs were not designed to be "portable" because they have all these registry attachments and similar dependencies. Is it really as simply as just launching those programs using their EXE files without booting up the Windows installation on the hybrid drive?

Generalkidd said:
For the programs that I leave behind on the Seagate Hybrid Drive, would I still be able to run them while booted into the fresh copy of Windows? A lot of those programs were not designed to be "portable" because they have all these registry attachments and similar dependencies. Is it really as simply as just launching those programs using their EXE files without booting up the Windows installation on the hybrid drive?
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It really depends on the programs. However, the vast majority of software licenses have no issues with reinstalling on the same machine. In certain cases reactivation might be tricky but then you can just phone/email support and tell them the situation. I've had to do this a few times (with e.g. NCP VPN client) and they're always very helpful.

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Is there A-B file copy utility?

Looking for a program to copy files from one flash card to another one.
Just like on a PC with only one floppy disk drive: if you copy a file from A to B, it asks you to insert the source, then the target disk etc. many times depending on the file(s) size(s) and available RAM.
Multiple files handling with subdirectory trees is much appreciated!
If you're going to be re-inserting a new flash card anyway, you might as well temporarily drop the files to your desktop and then copy them back over to the B card. That's all the PC will do anyway, make a temp cache of the files.
Otherwise, get yourself another flash drive or one with two slots.
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First of all, I mean such a software on my HTC TyTN, or, widely speaking, under WM5.
Then, because it should work on a phone, with limited internal storage space, and for the sake of useability, copying via the internal storage does not work.
I intentionally mentiones how DOS copy/xcopy/diskcopy commands worked between virtual drives: they were reading portions into RAM. You see, it also worked on PCs without a hard drive... you know, there were some...
Ahhm, I am just wondering how do you expect such program to work on your TyTN?
The smallest SD card sold today is 32MB (who buys that any way) and most people use 1 - 2 GB cards. No PPC device available today has enough RAM to hold that much data. In fact RAM is usually even more precious then internal storage.
Theoretically you could do it in portions, but do you really want to copy 2GB worth of data 10 - 20 MB at a time constantly switching between cards?
Floppies are not a good analogy in this case as they are usually about 1.3MB and even computers from 10 years ago had enough RAM to accomodate that.

16GB X7510 but can I use it?

Hello, sorry if this is a double post but I will be brief. After buying the X7510, I was informed that the ActiveSync software only works on the phone memory and was asked (after I called HTC support) to "Copy and Paste" the My Documents folder on my pc if it was big, which it is.
What kind of a solution is that?
I am also trying to sync with Exchange 2003 and again, it appears only to work on the phone memory. Is there any software out there which will at least allow me to sync My Documents on to the 16GB flash disk?
Surely HTC are not that stupid as to give you 16GB and then not allow you to use it except "Copy and Paste"!!!!!!
Although my gut feeling is that it is Windows Mobile 6 that is stupid.....
Thanks,
Adrian.
make a briefacse, itll sync when you connect. but probably only if you connect as usb storage rather than proper activesync. I did it successfully for ages with all my cab files
Rory
Try wm5torage version 1.73 (google it).
Then you'll be able to use the 16GB as standard USB mass storage.
Unfortunately the 16 GB Flash Disk works like an on-board or built-in memory card. But there should be a software out there that would let you update a folder in it, if that is your question.
How about using the BT Shared Folder option?
You need not install WM5torage if all you want is to see the 16 GB Flash Disk. Just go to
Start>Settings>Connections>USB to PC>check DISK DRIVE>OK
and this should let you see the contents of the Flash Disk like an SD Card does.
you guys should check out Card Export 2 for PPC
AllGamer said:
you guys should check out Card Export 2 for PPC
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The last time I tried Card Export 2, it is buggy as hell. It does not always work.
WM5torage is way better than Card Export in reliability and it's FREE.
Thanks.
I will try some of the solutions suggested in the threads, but it still does not answer why HTC have not considered an "Out Of The Box" sync via Activesync onto the 16GB flash storage for My Documents and Emails......
Adrian.
losdelrock said:
I will try some of the solutions suggested in the threads, but it still does not answer why HTC have not considered an "Out Of The Box" sync via Activesync onto the 16GB flash storage for My Documents and Emails......
Adrian.
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I might be wrong but I think on all devices it works this way. The email is by default (i.e. out of the box) stored on the device memory.
OK, I think I just found a solution for you, but this would need SK TOOLS which is not free, but you can try it out first if it will work.
If you go to SK Tools Main Menu>Tune Up>Active Sync>Choose Folder to Sync, then you can try and choose Flash Disk and the folder you want active sync to always synchronize with your PC.
actually i just realized something
apparently we DO NOT need any additional software.
not even set the option for USB to PC as a disk drive.
if you have Active Sync 4.5 installed
you can simply DRAG AND DROP anything you want, from and to the 2 SD cards and Main memory of the Advantage X7510
i just noticed that after we started this discussion.
i did a factory reset, because i'm trying different setups, so i wanted to be able to quickly copy and past stuff i want over to install try and clean up.
that's when i noticed, none of the above mentioned software, none are required
just activesync 4.5 and your Advantage connected to your PC
AllGamer said:
actually i just realized something
apparently we DO NOT need any additional software.
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just activesync 4.5 and your Advantage connected to your PC
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That's true.
But in my experience this is rather slow and some files (like .doc etc) may be reformatted (unless you turn this off).
So most of the time I tend to use Activesync, but for movies or folders I almost always switch to Wm5torage.
@losdelrock: Your gut feeling is correct. Windows mobile is that daft.
From Microsoft's view, i can understand some of why they did it, but i cannot understand why they do not give you an option to specify a different folder if you choose. surely it can't be that hard....
@allgamer: OMFG no! Activesync is awful for transferring large files like movies, or at least every time i have tried it it is. However, you are right, no extra software should be needed with WM6.1.
Does the x7510 have the storage device option in start>settings>connections>usb to pc?
If so, just select that when you plug it into the computer and it shows up as a usb stick.
if it's not there on the 7510, go with WM5torage all the way.
in USB to PC mode
it only shows the 16 GB disk of the machine, it wont show the 8GB mini SD that i have in the drive.
using ActiveSync mode, i can access both without problem
but it is true in Active Sync mode it is slower
my work around right now is to use FTP server / client
so i enable WiFi, and then client into my FTP server, and transfer any large stuff i want to my 8 GB miniSD
yeah, it will do that.
I still reckon wm5torage will be better for you. The later versions of the software allow you to select which memory device will appear to the PC before you connect it. It's gotta be faster transferring direct over USB2.0 rather than over Wifi...
i just tried both way, and it's no much different
i'll have to say the Athena has an excellent 54G wifi, that really tops up speed, probably that's why.
it seems like my USB 2 isn't as fast as it should be, but i know it's not running at USB 1 speed, because that is hella slow,
USB 1 speed is at like 10 mbps

[Q] Questions regarding Solid State Drives

I'm thinking of getting a 120gb or 128gb SSD. I currently have a 1.5TB 5400 Hard drive.
I'm wondering if it's possible to transfer windows to this SSD without re installing, and losing all my installed programs.
Since EVERYTHING on my computer is looking in C:, then can I put Windows on the SSD as D: and keep my 1.5TB harddrive as C:?
I'm just looking for a method that doesn't involve starting over.
I think you will have to start over to do this of you want ssd to be d.
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i think what you're looking for is disc cloning software.
I have a very similar setup. Windows and whatever games I'm currently playing are on my SSD so the computer has a faster bootup and the games' load times are low. What you have to do is move your Program Files folders to the SSD, and then change all the file lookups that are aimed towards a Program Files folder on C: drive. And from then on, whenever installing a new program, aim it towards your new Program Files folder on the SSD.
You could also buy 1 of those transfer utilities for setting up a new pc, you'll need 2 computers to it this way though.
Maybe use this program - http://www.todo-backup.com/products/home/free-backup-software.htm
I think it will be much easier to just reinstall windows on the SSD. You can download all the programs you can on your HDD but not install them. Once you are done installing windows on SSD you can simply install the already downloaded programs you have on your HDD cutting down the time it takes to finish your switch.
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I use EASUS partition manager and it works really well, so I'll check out their backup manager.
What I want to do is keep my programs files on C (hard drive) as the recognized location, but have windows on D (Solid State) as the default recognized location.
Even if I have to reinstall windows on the SSD that would work, as long as it's D, and I can somehow copy the data so all the programs still look under C for program files on the hard drive.
i think do this is not a good job. using a clone software or other similar things create a lot of problem. i think is better reinstal windows and use a backup software for backup the program you need

Surface Pro - installing desktop (and Metro) apps on SDXC card

I already found a thread about installing Metro apps to SD card ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2079596)
I will also need to install a lot of desktop-mode apps (Office, 3 versions of Visual Studio and 2 versions of SQL Server) and I don't think I will have enough space on 128GB SSD. It currently has 84GB available out of the box with nothing installed. My development desktop PC already uses 100 GB of space on C: and it only has 2 versions of Visual Studio and 1 version of SQL Server.
So I think I will have to install some of the software on 64GB SDXC card.
Does anyone have any experience with that? Will it run much slower? I don't think SQL Server is a good candidate. Neither is Visual Studio most likely. But I think MS Office should be fine, just as some other 3-rd party applications.
You can free up some extra space by creating a recovery USB and then deleting/resizing the recovery partition. This gives a nice little boost to the internal storage on the pro.
Why do you need SQL server on both the desktop and the surface, surely you just need it on one machine? Visual studio or SQL server management tools can then access the desktops settings from the pro anyway.
The SD is far slower than the pro's SSD drive though to answer your original question. But the link you show is for metro apps. These are desktop apps. Visual studio never gave me a choice for what drive to install onto, neither did SQL server. So they appear to be stuck on your C drive anyway. Office I don't own, libre-office does the job fine for me and has a smaller install size while having enough compatibility with my original microsoft office files (although complex documents dont always come out well) and is best of all free.
VS does actually ask where you want to install it, but only a portion (three gigs or so of the whole install) will go there; the rest always goes under Program Files.
Depending on the card, microSD isn't necessarily that much slower than internal storage. I mean, it is slower, but the access latencies and read speed will still be pretty fast (as they are for any Flash storage).
I would recommend removing the recovery partition and deleting windows update downloads. I use A 64gb microsdxc, but that's mostly for holding my multimedia and whatnot. If you really need more space, I'd look into opening up the pro and physically changing it to a bigger drive, which is actually not as difficult as it seems.

Easiest way to clone Windows installation onto SSD?

I have a 9 yr old Alienware laptop that I bought long before the advent of m.2. It has a mSATA slot I'll be soon populating with a 512GB SSD. I currently have two 1TB HDDs installed; one of them is the OS drive. What I want to do is clone the Windows installation onto the SSD, then I can wipe the old OS drive and use it in RAID 0 with the other drive.
Can this be done while I'm running Windows from that drive? Or will I have to live boot something like GParted, which I'd rather not use because I don't know Linux commands?
Suggestions welcome.
Acronis is what I use.
However do not clone data like music databases or data drives, cut/copy them only.
blackhawk said:
Acronis is what I use.
However do not clone data like music databases or data drives, cut/copy them only.
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Data drives?
I don't have any media, just Windows.
Also, are you talking about Acronis True Image?
V0latyle said:
Data drives?
I don't have any media, just Windows.
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Just saying. Acronis will clone the whole OS disk including boot instructions like for Intel Matrix raid arrays flawlessly.
I never used it on a SDD... still in the stone age
Yes this can all be done in Windows and for free.
You can use Macrium Reflect.
Macrium Reflect Free Trial
Macrium Reflect - Incredibly powerful software that allows you to create and schedule effective backups
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But I see that your current os drive is 1TB and you will be transferring that to 512 GB SSD.
I've done this and I know it can be done, it is a bit involved,
The easiest way is to install Macrium on your current system, make a partition backup of the OS partition
(I'm assuming that it is smaller than 512GB) preferably to an external drive
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Next create a windows install usb
unplug every drive and just plug the ssd. (this is required, otherwise windows installer will use the current drive's EFI partition and will not create one for the new install,)
Install windows
This process will create a similar partition structure as above image.
EFI System partition is what holds the boot info.
Now you have vanilla windows which we will replace with data from backed up partition.
The trick here is that you can't do it while you're running the vanilla OS
You would need to plug back the original OS, and do in there, however it is possible that if you plug back your drive, windows would still boot to the new drive.
bcdedit is your friend, to add / edit boot selections.
Once you boot to the old os, you run macrium and restore the backup as partition into the new drive's OS partition.
lastly, you would want to run bcdedit to fix the windows bootloader info of the new drive, because the identifier will change and windows will not find it.
Yeah I know, I said it is involved, but it can be done.
blackhawk said:
Just saying. Acronis will clone the whole OS disk including boot instructions like for Intel Matrix raid arrays flawlessly.
I never used it on a SDD... still in the stone age
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I was able to get ahold of a bootable Acronis image; that worked nicely. System is now running on the SSD. Thanks for the suggestion.
badabing2003 said:
Yes this can all be done in Windows and for free.
You can use Macrium Reflect.
Macrium Reflect Free Trial
Macrium Reflect - Incredibly powerful software that allows you to create and schedule effective backups
www.macrium.com
But I see that your current os drive is 1TB and you will be transferring that to 512 GB SSD.
I've done this and I know it can be done, it is a bit involved,
The easiest way is to install Macrium on your current system, make a partition backup of the OS partition
(I'm assuming that it is smaller than 512GB) preferably to an external drive
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Next create a windows install usb
unplug every drive and just plug the ssd. (this is required, otherwise windows installer will use the current drive's EFI partition and will not create one for the new install,)
Install windows
This process will create a similar partition structure as above image.
EFI System partition is what holds the boot info.
Now you have vanilla windows which we will replace with data from backed up partition.
The trick here is that you can't do it while you're running the vanilla OS
You would need to plug back the original OS, and do in there, however it is possible that if you plug back your drive, windows would still boot to the new drive.
bcdedit is your friend, to add / edit boot selections.
Once you boot to the old os, you run macrium and restore the backup as partition into the new drive's OS partition.
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lastly, you would want to run bcdedit to fix the windows bootloader info of the new drive, because the identifier will change and windows will not find it.
Yeah I know, I said it is involved, but it can be done.
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The problem I'm having now is, I want to extend the volume on Disk 1 (the other HDD) to the now-unallocated space on Disk 0. Both disks are dynamic; however for some reason every time I try to extend the volume it says not enough space is available. I can't even create a volume in the unallocated space so something somewhere must be mad at me.
V0latyle said:
I was able to get ahold of a bootable Acronis image; that worked nicely. System is now running on the SSD. Thanks for the suggestion.
The problem I'm having now is, I want to extend the volume on Disk 1 (the other HDD) to the now-unallocated space on Disk 0. Both disks are dynamic; however for some reason every time I try to extend the volume it says not enough space is available. I can't even create a volume in the unallocated space so something somewhere must be mad at me.
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Can you post an image of your disks and their partitions / layout.
Just a screenshot of diskmanager or in acronis should do, so that it is clear to understand.
V0latyle said:
I was able to get ahold of a bootable Acronis image; that worked nicely. System is now running on the SSD. Thanks for the suggestion.
The problem I'm having now is, I want to extend the volume on Disk 1 (the other HDD) to the now-unallocated space on Disk 0. Both disks are dynamic; however for some reason every time I try to extend the volume it says not enough space is available. I can't even create a volume in the unallocated space so something somewhere must be mad at me.
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I wouldn't use dynamic disks.
I always use basic disks unless running something like Intel Matrix Raid. The data on those disks I consider expendable and is backed up as a clone in case of a crash.
Dynamic volumes are a legacy function in Windows.
Convert dynamic to basic.
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is what I was trying to accomplish. Managed to break my boot configuration in the process. Nothing particularly important on those two drives, just games for the most part.
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is what the SSD partitions look like now. My OCD is bugging me. Sure, I could remove the last one and extend the OS partition to take up the space....but there is nothing I can do about the first one. Both used to be recovery partitions, which the boot configuration no longer recognized after cloning the disk.
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is what I was trying to accomplish. Managed to break my boot configuration in the process. Nothing particularly important on those two drives, just games for the most part.
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is what the SSD partitions look like now. My OCD is bugging me. Sure, I could remove the last one and extend the OS partition to take up the space....but there is nothing I can do about the first one. Both used to be recovery partitions, which the boot configuration no longer recognized after cloning the disk.
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Dynamic disks are trouble. I never use them.
Set up the fastest hdd (SSD in your case) as the OS drive only the OS and apps are loaded here, the other larger hdd as a data drive. Linking those drives as a dynamic disk would slow it down. I think you would use dynamic disks for multiple data drives. It's been 15 years since I looked at this and rejected using dynamic disks... so there's that
To preserve the boot sector instruction set like for a Intel Matrix raid array you simple clone the whole disk with Acronis. This works on my Dell laptop; I'm running a cloned copy of the original hdd.
The problem maybe the SSD interface. I went with a hdd because it's an older Dell and there are interface issues I've experienced trying to integrate a hybrid SSD/hdd's. Just a guess as I haven't mucked with the setup in years.
blackhawk said:
Dynamic disks are trouble. I never use them.
Set up the fastest hdd (SSD in your case) as the OS drive only the OS and apps are loaded here, the other larger hdd as a data drive. Linking those drives as a dynamic disk would slow it down. I think you would use dynamic disks for multiple data drives. It's been 15 years since I looked at this and rejected using dynamic disks... so there's that
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That's exactly what I'm doing. I have one SSD on which the OS is running. I also have two 1TB HDDs that now support a spanned volume. They're identical HGST 7200RPM drives. I'm not concerned with the drawbacks, I just wanted a convenient way to make both appear as one volume.
blackhawk said:
To preserve the boot sector instruction set like for a Intel Matrix raid array you simple clone the whole disk with Acronis. This works on my Dell laptop; I'm running a cloned copy of the original hdd.
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This wasn't really an option without resizing; the HDD that the OS was formerly on was one of the 1TB drives, and the SSD is 512GB. Cloning it don't break it though...
The problem maybe the SSD interface. I went with a hdd because it's an older Dell and there are interface issues I've experienced trying to integrate a hybrid SSD/hdd's. Just a guess as I haven't mucked with the setup in years.
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No...the problem was that after I used Acronis to clone the OS HDD to the SSD, I was then unable to remove the recovery and EFI partitions on the old drive. So, I booted Gparted, and just to be safe, copied them over again...which broke the boot configuration.
After I fixed it, I took a look in bcdedit and saw that I had somehow broken the path in the original boot configuration. So, until I deleted the original, I had two boot configurations for the same OS; the old one was just pointing to nowhere.
Now, the main issue I have (which isn't really an issue) is the recovery partitions, which Windows didn't recognize after the migration, and which are now gone. I could use Gparted to move things around so that there's only two partitions on the drive (EFI and OS) but I don't want to break things again. And, as far as I know, there is no way to recreate recovery partitions without reinstalling Windows.
I'm not sure why you want a spanned volume that large.
I always make the OS disk clone as small as possible If I can the OS partition to be cloned is 20gb to start with and make it 100-250gb on the destination drive. Then use the rest of the left over space after it's cloned to target drive to create another partition which I use as junk space.
I try to keep it rock stupid simple... less to go wrong. I need clones for backup but tired of making into rocket science. Just keeping track of my hdds is daunting enough.
With Androids I'm even worse which is one reason I avoid rooting. Fortunately an Android load is extremely long lived if you don't update/upgrade it
V0latyle said:
Now, the main issue I have (which isn't really an issue) is the recovery partitions, which Windows didn't recognize after the migration, and which are now gone. I could use Gparted to move things around so that there's only two partitions on the drive (EFI and OS) but I don't want to break things again. And, as far as I know, there is no way to recreate recovery partitions without reinstalling Windows.
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What you could instead is use Macrium, and choose
Other Tasks | Create Rescue Media | Windows Boot Menu
This would add a rescue option to the boot menu.
You can read more about it here.
Macrium Rescue Media Builder - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase
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badabing2003 said:
What you could instead is use Macrium, and choose
Other Tasks | Create Rescue Media | Windows Boot Menu
This would add a rescue option to the boot menu.
You can read more about it here.
Macrium Rescue Media Builder - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase
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Is there a free version?
I have a rescue USB and other computers in case I lose that.
V0latyle said:
Is there a free version?
I have a rescue USB and other computers in case I lose that.
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Yes, there is a free version as well as pay version, but the free version does everything we need except cloning to a smaller disk, which you already have overcome.
I just released a full step by step tutorial to clone your older disk to your newer disk for FREE. Any disk type like old hdd, ssd, m2.
Larger to smaller disk or smaller to larger disk with using full space.
It works because I cloned my disk and now using
Also shown in the tutorial video as well.
Feel free to ask any questions.
My lappy has 128 GB SSD and 1 TB HDD. I always copy / move not system relevant folders ( e.g. Program Files, Program Files (x86 ), ProgramData ) to HDD and then link to them. This drastically speeds up system boot.
VOlatyle, do not use acronis to clone music databases as it can compress them removing needed null marks. Copy/paste those files.
I keep the OS clone image under 20gb if possible to speed cloning. All critical data is on the data drives.

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