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i was just wondering if anyone has or is getting a gen8 archos tablet and if so are there any developers working on it?

Crimton said:
i was just wondering if anyone has or is getting a gen8 archos tablet and if so are there any developers working on it?
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I have the Archos 101 but I am not a developer

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I have the Archos 101 but I am not a developer
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so how are you liking it? have you already put the market on? any noticable bugs or quirks worth mentioning? thanks

it took me 1 day to absolutely go from "hmm, not sure this is what i wanted" to "holy ****, this is the best tablet yet".
it's a thing of beauty if you are willing to dig in with the gapps kit and getting all the apps that i love on my Desire onto the tablet.
it's fantastic. any specific questions you'd like answered, let me know.

Can you please give more details about it?
What about the screen? Does it look OK with market apps, cause it has bigger screen resolution. Does it look nice or blurry? I 've seen Archow with win7 and it's terrible.
Speed? Updates? Any good resources for roms (other than XDA)?
Sorry for botherning but I 'm interested to get one. Santa Claus promished it to me (LOL).

I'd be interested in what you have to say about it - particularly battery life.
Looking @ getting the Archos 70 for the wife, and the 101 for myself.

Sorry archos I went ahead and got a g tablet. It's not perfect but with a little work its a good tablet and cm6.1 is already in beta for it.
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i made a video of my 101 hooked up to my TV, have a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYAyQQk2C78&hd=1
the device is great. speed is great, the design is great. for some examples, movies look fantastic, Angry Birds looks incredible. it does have a little lag once in a blue moon, but usually because i'm pushing it too hard.
we're still waiting on 2.2, but other than not having flash websites (who cares?), you wouldn't know it. when we get 2.2, this is gonna scream.
the battery life is the best i've experienced in a device lately. i can go at least 2 days with normal use. apparantly, it's been tested by some dude on Star Wars 2. it played 3 times over before the battery died.
i rarely plug it in.

was wondering how is the screen quality? view angles? both in landscape or protrait? have the folio 100 for a few more days, 760g feels a bit on the heavy side after some hours of use. build quality? color gamut and sharpness on the screen?
how does the 101 do in this matter?

i looked at the Folio just before i bought the 10". i found the screens on both to be identical. what moved me over to the Archos was the fact that the Folio out of the box was force crashing left and right. the salesguy and i both laughed and i walked away.
otherwise, the screen quality is very good. is it quite as good as the iPad? no. but, i have not had any headaches trying to read and watch on it.

anotherdroid said:
i looked at the Folio just before i bought the 10". i found the screens on both to be identical. what moved me over to the Archos was the fact that the Folio out of the box was force crashing left and right. the salesguy and i both laughed and i walked away.
otherwise, the screen quality is very good. is it quite as good as the iPad? no. but, i have not had any headaches trying to read and watch on it.
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never expected it to be like the ipad, but if u say that it is identical as the folio, then the quality is not what i would prefer but still good enough for me.

can you try the skyfire browser on it? How is the video streaming?

Quick review of my Archos 70
I've had my Archos 70 for about a week now. One of the lucky ones. I'm really happy with it but there are a few quirks that I hope will be sorted out once 2.2 is released for it. Here's a few of my thoughts on it.
1. I like the screen. I've read people complain about the viewing angle but it's fine for me. I wish the resolution was a higher but that really only comes into play when using the web browser and viewing high resolution images.
2. There is definite issue with the soft buttons that needs to be fixed. I don't run into it all that often but it does make using alternate launchers/book readers a little annoying. Basically the soft buttons are unknown to some apps. It's not actually limiting the screen area like status bar is. usually full screen apps are the issue. The kindle app for instance chops off the bottom line of text which makes reading books hard. The Nook app on the other hand has no issues because you can set your own margins.
3. Swype works really well in portrate mode. The best way to "type" on one of these things. If I need to write a forum post or anything more than a few lines I'll pick up the archos. I can't stand the keyboard on my IPad so to me this is a HUGE benefit. The only downside is in landscape mode the soft buttons overlap the side a bit which makes hitting the period and back buttons a little hard
4. My android phone has a track ball and I wish this had one. About the only feature I miss from the ipad is the hold over a word for zoom in on a text field that allows you to place the cursor where you want it the track ball fixes that on the phone but not so much without it. My finger is not precise enough for cursor placement. The stock keyboard does have arrow keys but Swype does not. (I did figure out that if you hold down the power button an option comes up to modify the soft buttons to include arrow keys but it's really large.)
5. The bottom left corner gets pretty hot but it's not unbearable. That's the only part of the device that I noticed that. Plus when in portrate mode the side with the camera is a little heavier.
6. This thing is great for reading. The nook app works really well for me
7. It feels great in your hand. Just the right size and weight.
8. No compass. I wasn't expecting it though. Ipad does have one (since I've kinda compared the 2 in this already)
9. Google maps works great and wifi triangulation works well.
10. The screen does not get as dirty as fast as the ipad. I'm constantly cleaning the ipad as the fingerprints can really get in the way of viewing. I don't find that to be a problem with this device. The bezel does attract fingerprints but a microfiber cloth cleans that right up.
11. This thing needs froyo and root I've gotten way to used to having root and being able to control what the device does. Maybe over thanksgiving I'll have some time to look into it. Right now you must manage tasks on it and clear up memory or the thing will lag a bit. Some of the autokillers I've not found work for me. I guess if you've never seen 2.2 with a tweaked android internal memory manager they would be ok for you but not for me Luckily the task app it comes with is pretty good.
12. Even though it won't charge thru USB the included charger comes with the most common plug styles and allows you to swap them out. Really nice.
13. Battery life is pretty amazing but I think they toggle off wifi when the screen is off no matter what. I want to keep wifi on so I get email on it. Could be fixed with the firmware upgrade.
14. Video playback is nice and smooth and the audio player is pretty good as well. I did try some mkv files at 720p (not sure of the full specs of the media but could find out) and did get some slow down in the video in high motion areas. You could tell as the audio/video sync would go out then come back. I was also using the mini-hdmi->hdmi cable to put it on my tv when that happened. I've not tested any other videos yet. I don't have a lot of digital video hanging around these days.
15. I'd recommend getting a case. Kindle 2 or nook cases seem to work. A screen protector is also a good idea. I've been really careful with mine and i've still managed to somehow scratch the screen. I can only see it at specific angles in certain light so it doesn't detract from actual use but still you hate to have a scratch on a pretty screen
I'm very happy with the device. Once we get froyo I'll be even more ecstatic. I've not seen the need to grab my ipad once since I got it so that's sayin something.

http://twitter.com/#!/_mrbirdman_/status/5054131584634881 oh snap! and that coming from the guy who first rooted the droid x.

That hurts me. Sh...t.
How can I recall my letter to Santa... Anyone???

Just so you guys know, the A70 and A101 are available on the Archos.com store.
Only the 8GB version of each so far. They've been up for under an hour now, but I'm sure they've taken a ton of orders, so better get it quick if you want it.

Crimton said:
http://twitter.com/#!/_mrbirdman_/status/5054131584634881 oh snap! and that coming from the guy who first rooted the droid x.
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That's a deal-breaker for me! I was all set to order too. Archos, I hope you're reading this!
Next!
Billy

mmhh..
didnt they say that it will be almost imppossible to root the droid x too??
it will get rooted..just like the ps3 got "jailbroken" lol (i hate when people use the that term) but may be it will take years..lol

I've had one for a week too, definitely wanted a 7 incher since I prefer to have extra portatility. Everything is working great and Froyo update will only make things better.
Altough rooting etc is a nice thing to mess around with the device, I dont feel like it is a necessity for enjoying the device.
At the end Android devices pretty much let you do everything you want out of the box and it's not like I thought that AOSP roms were the best things on earth either (back to sense rom on Desire).
Once Froyo is here with Flash support and Froyo ap2sd, the device will have all I want and I wont change my mind wether a root shows up or not (we know it will eventually).

Leviuqse said:
mmhh..
didnt they say that it will be almost imppossible to root the droid x too??
it will get rooted..just like the ps3 got "jailbroken" lol (i hate when people use the that term) but may be it will take years..lol
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The X was rooted almost immediately (or even before launch?), but they haven't broken the bootloader encryption yet, so basically all that gained them at first was the ability to manipulate the filesystem outside of /data. Custom ROMs/kernels have been a bit of a chore. I haven't watched the progress too closely, but last I remember they've been able to get everything but kernels working, and even that may have progressed.

GTablet annoyances

I was excited to get a G-Tablet in the recent Woot sale. Unfortunately, as I have noted in other threads, when I got it, it wouldn't run through the original NTP-WiFi configuration procedure out of the box.
I wiped it and installed VEGAn 5.1.1 and got on with the process of evaluating it.
Am I the only one with touch screen sensor issues? It requires massive fingertip hurting pressure to hit the 'L' key and many of the touch areas along the edge that is adjacent to the Home/Menu/Back buttons. Sometimes I need to press so hard to register a key press, I think that it will crack the LCD. It really impacts my happy factor with this device.
The Market fix isn't as complete as my Archos 70. I saw the thread on changing device type=olympus. I can't vi the /system/build.prop without getting / set to read/write. Too much of a hoop to jump through right now. If I could vi the file, no problem. Still, it is an annoyance.
Weight. I knew it was heavier, but wasn't prepared to the reality of dealing with the mass of this unit.
Screen view. Even with an iPad screen protector on, the color and view angles are annoying. It was unusable to me for reading and regular use before the screen protector went on. Now it is better, but still subpar compared to the A70.
I want to love the gTablet for its technical superiority and future upgrade path to 2.3 and potentially beyond. My Archos device will never be better than FroYo.
However, even though I know it is 'better' I just can't stand actually using it. I feel that the gTab needs to go to flEaBay, since Woot doesn't do refunds.
Anyone else feeling this way?

Touchscreen callibration app should fix your touch issues... I had the same problem and that solved it.

Yeah, I have the app and tried it. Not much real difference in my experience. :\
I just ran it again, and it is weird. Some areas of the screen work just fine (launcher pro dock when in desktop/finder mode for example). then, when on virtual keyboard, those same pixel areas don't sense well. Might be a keyboard issue, though it seems to be the same with BetterKeyboard and Android keyboard.
I don't know, I want to like this thing, but feel disappointed. Same way with the Samsung Captivate, which i returned after fighting with it for a month.

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Touchscreen callibration app should fix your touch issues... I had the same problem and that solved it.
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+1. Screen cal should help. Anyway, don't have that problem with TNTL 4.2.5.

BoulderGeek said:
I was excited to get a G-Tablet in the recent Woot sale. Unfortunately, as I have noted in other threads, when I got it, it wouldn't run through the original NTP-WiFi configuration procedure out of the box.
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Everyone has been saying the stock rom isn't very well made since day one.
I wiped it and installed VEGAn 5.1.1 and got on with the process of evaluating it.
Am I the only one with touch screen sensor issues? It requires massive fingertip hurting pressure to hit the 'L' key and many of the touch areas along the edge that is adjacent to the Home/Menu/Back buttons. Sometimes I need to press so hard to register a key press, I think that it will crack the LCD. It really impacts my happy factor with this device.
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Well, touch screen calibration app should do the trick. Also, you can create a blank file name calibration.ini in the root of your sdcard2 and then reboot. Don't touch the screen while it reboots. This file will tell the device to recalibrate the touch.
The Market fix isn't as complete as my Archos 70. I saw the thread on changing device type=olympus. I can't vi the /system/build.prop without getting / set to read/write. Too much of a hoop to jump through right now. If I could vi the file, no problem. Still, it is an annoyance.
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To me, it's not much of a hoop. Took me all of 30 seconds to do this.
Weight. I knew it was heavier, but wasn't prepared to the reality of dealing with the mass of this unit.
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I'm an engineer researcher at a material science lab. We build and crush to test our own toys. Sometimes, we have to carry (by hand) objects that are hundreds of pounds heavy. I guess the weight of the gtab isn't really bothering me that much. But again, it's only .3 lb heavier than the ipad, so if you have a problem with the gtab then I'm sure you'll have the same problem with the ipad.
Screen view. Even with an iPad screen protector on, the color and view angles are annoying. It was unusable to me for reading and regular use before the screen protector went on. Now it is better, but still subpar compared to the A70.
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Again, not an issue for me. I'm a heavy reader, meaning I go through several books a week. Been using the gtab to read ebooks on my train ride commute.
I want to love the gTablet for its technical superiority and future upgrade path to 2.3 and potentially beyond. My Archos device will never be better than FroYo.
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I don't just want to love the gtab. I love my gtab.
But then again, you really have to consider my past I guess. I was born in a house with a dirt floor, grew up with a black and white small tv (14 inch or so, can't remember). And even then, the tv worked only sometimes.
It just seems to me that so many people (Americans) complain about things that, to me, are moot points. For $285, the gtab is a steal based on what it could do.
And to me, the gtab is more than just a toy. Before, I was carrying my laptop around, which weighs a ton (exaggeration here). Nowadays, I sometimes leave it in the office or at home and just carry the gtab around. I'm expecting my experience to be even better once the case with the usb keyboard arrives.
Yes, I'm one of those that has no problem jury rigging something to make my experience better.
However, even though I know it is 'better' I just can't stand actually using it. I feel that the gTab needs to go to flEaBay, since Woot doesn't do refunds.
Anyone else feeling this way?
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Some people want their devices to work straight out of the box. And some people want their devices to just work powerfully and don't care about the luxuries.
I've recently converted 100% to electronic books. I've sold over half of my library collection on amazon. I often run into people who are absolutely against ebook reading. The #1 reason that most people seem to have against ebooks is that they want the smell and feel of paper while they read. That's their opinion, and it's ok. They are free to like or dislike whatever they want.
But to me, I read a book for its contents, not what it's written on. I don't care how a book feels or what it smells like. I love zombie novels, and I don't care if it's on paper or plastic.
I guess I have the same attitude with my gtab. This really is a powerful piece of device. It runs fast, the screen is uber sensitive (on my device at least). The battery life is up there with the ipad. Completely hackable (a must in my book). And it's incredibly lite weight. Again, I speak as someone who work hands on with his projects. Funny story, someone the other day made a face and asked me what happened to my hands. I looked down and for the first time I actually noticed all the scars and Calluses on my hands. Amazing how boy friend hasn't complained yet.
Anyway, the #1 reason why I like this device is because it's freakin' cheap. Even if I break it in a year, or if I decide to buy something else in a year, I wouldn't feel the pain in my stomach the way I'd feel if I had bought a xoom or ipad.
Anyway, to each his own I guess. And that's ok.
You should either get a xoom or ipad. I've borrowed them from friends and played with those. They are very nice and fits your needs quite well.
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And my elderly dad just told me he wanted one to surf the net while on the couch and have a 10 inch screen gps. Just bought one for him. Hopefully will arrive soon. Also already ordered a gps receiver and a car mount. My elderly dad's far sight vision is great. Better than mine. He could see things at a distance that I can't see even with my glasses on. But his near sight vision is beginning to slip. So, the gps I bought him a couple years back aren't that helpful nowadays. Hopefully, this 10 inch one will be better. I'm also hoping I could talk to him via video conferencing when he goes back to (insert a random country here). So, I better start showing him how to use a touch screen. It was hard enough to get him to understand and use the mouse...

I wouldn't mind a little tactile feedback or lighting for the 4 side touch buttons. They are hard to find in the dark. Some small protusions on the buttons themselves, or on the side of the case would also have been nice, like the bumps on a keyboard on the f and j keys.

Haha, the 4 buttons in the dark issue was bothering me, too. I guess I stopped noticing it once I have it memorized. Just last night, I was reading before I went to sleep and noticed that I could press with 99% precision the buttons. So, yeah, it's not a problem for me anymore.

1. I have had "edge" problems that went away when I put a different wall paper up. Try a non-live wallpaper.
2. The Olympus fix works. It just breaks the web site seeing your tablet. Get Root Explorer and it takes about 2 seconds to mount /system rw.
3) I guess the screen is a personal preference thing. I like mine better since I put a urethane screen protector on. Really keeps the fingerprints off of it for the most part and the angles don't bother me.
4) The unlit buttons are a pain in the dark. I put some clear paper reinforcement stickers over mine so they have a little feel in the dark. They are almost invisible from any distance away but you can feel them. These are the little sticky holes you put on loose leaf paper when the holes have torn out. Oh, the other think you can do is get button savior in the market. This gives you nice onscreen buttons (although you know VEGAn has home, menu and back buttons on the status bar). Now the other problem is I tend to hit the buttons when I am trying to grip the tablet. There is a non-free app called remapper (I think) that can turn them off (or repurpose them) but I have not tried it.

I don't disagree about the gtablet being a good value.
it's just slightly worse at everything than my existing Archos 70 tablet. So, for more money and double the specs, I didn't really get any appreciable improvement. Perhaps that's what I should have stated.
If I had no Android tablet, I'd be completely happy with my my VEGAn Tab.
However, i can't justify two tablets, and surprisingly, i don't think the gtablet is going to be the keeper. I'm just surprised that is the case.
I just did a factory reset, and will take pictures tonight for flea bay.

On the screen sensitivity issue, the one-touch app didn't work for me, and I was considering returning my tab. But then I did the calibration.ini trick, and the difference is amazing.

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On the screen sensitivity issue, the one-touch app didn't work for me, and I was considering returning my tab. But then I did the calibration.ini trick, and the difference is amazing.
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Good to know. Thanks.

It may not keep you from selling it, but it sure will help the person who buys it from you

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It may not keep you from selling it, but it sure will help the person who buys it from you
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I think that guy is sitting in the cube adjacent to mine. He's been playing with it all day. Reinstalling the apps that i lost by resetting to factory.

you guys do realized that vegan roms have the same buttons on the notification bar.. for just this reason.. to take the place of the side buttons at night.

I was personally about to sell my gTablet about 48 hours ago. I was having tons of lock-ups, market issues and was pretty frustrated.
I decided to start all over and reflashed to stock - did a lot of research here and just about have it working perfect with vegan 5.1.1 now. No lockups with flash, olympus thing fixed my market issues - it is simply an awesome tablet. I have had an ipad for a year and really like this in comparison.
If you don't want to put in the effort to modify the build.prop to fix the market it might not be for you though. It was not hard in retrospect but without any context it takes a while to really get familiar with some of the the things you are doing. I ended up using ADB to edit it - using root explorer sounds much easier.
I personally enjoyed getting it all setup right at the end of the day and learned a lot. For the price this thing is a heck of a tablet.
Also wanted to thank everyone for the hard work figuring out these fixes and ROMs - very impressive community!

My take on this is that these fixes should take like 2 minutes to do. Very easy. The problem is that new users are intimidated by complicated instructions. Take the olympus fix for example. Took me less than 30 seconds to do. But because of the way people talk on here a new user would have to read thru 3 pages because nobody was willing to give a straight answer.

Granted, I'm verbose but I figure if you read the first part of the olympus thread and you knew what edit build.prop and change one line on it meant you wouldn't need or read the long detailed instructions.
There has to be a balance between talking to people who are Android fluent and helping ramp up new users, in my opinion.

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But again, it's only .3 lb heavier than the ipad, so if you have a problem with the gtab then I'm sure you'll have the same problem with the ipad.
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You mean .05 .lbs heavier than the iPad, right? Or were you referring to the iPad2, which is .22 .lbs lighter than the GTab?
I think it's important for people to realize that the GTab COULD weigh less and be thinner, as could the Xoom, but then where would the SD card slot and USB ports go? I think the edges would have slight bulges in them to accomodate the ports. I'm actually fine with the weight of the G-tab...If I noticed a difference of 100 grams, then I'd have to seriously consider working out harder.
As for the other annoyances from the OP...I guess some seem legitimate, but I haven't noticed touchscreen sensitivity issues, etc. Mine is fast and stable and works great. Aside from the screen viewing angles, I love the GTab.
One last thing to note...I just spent a week using my GTab on vacation, and also used my daughter's iPad quite a bit, too. I know this is totally subjective, but the iPad seems more like a toy than anything else. I liked the screen, but otherwise was not impressed overall. I burned several movies from DVD to my GTab and it worked flawlessly. After surfing, playing games and watching 2 movies, I had 50% battery life left. Not bad!

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Granted, I'm verbose but I figure if you read the first part of the olympus thread and you knew what edit build.prop and change one line on it meant you wouldn't need or read the long detailed instructions.
Sorry if that confused you.
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My first impression of the olympus thread was "what the hell?" sure I knew what you were talking about but for someone who's new to android and rooting something as simple as editing the build.prop could be the biggest stumbling block.
I know I have the reputation for hating newbies after my wooters thread. And thats fine. But people need to pay attention to their instructions to see if they make any sense to a newbie. Belive it or not i'm actually very friendly toward newbies. And believe me, the initial instructions in that thread make no sense to a newbie.
I am in the process of compiling everything into easy step by step instructions for the technical illiterates. Viewsonic gtab for dummies. I'll launch my website hopefully sometime next week.

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You mean .05 .lbs heavier than the iPad, right? Or were you referring to the iPad2, which is .22 .lbs lighter than the GTab?
I think it's important for people to realize that the GTab COULD weigh less and be thinner, as could the Xoom, but then where would the SD card slot and USB ports go? I think the edges would have slight bulges in them to accomodate the ports. I'm actually fine with the weight of the G-tab...If I noticed a difference of 100 grams, then I'd have to seriously consider working out harder.
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It's my experience that people will complain about anything/everything if something does not cost much.

Asus infinity and not 10.1

I have both devices and would like to help people who have questions on the devices. So fire away.
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I have both devices and would like to help people who have questions on the devices. So fire away.
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That's great Well, I'm buying my first tablet and I've read many reviews and many comparisons between those 2 tablets, and I know almost everything about them. The only thing left is something that can't be written down or recorded Just out of those 2, which one is faster I know it seems like a general question but I'm talking about raw performance. As in, which one will open applications a lot faster and load them a lot faster. You know, browsers and so on.
I'd appreciate it, thanks

Im going to have to give the edge to the note. The combination of lower resolution and 2gigs of ram make it super fast. When i open an app on both devices at the same time i will say the note wins a majority of the time. When it comes to web browsing the note is a clear cut winner when scrolling through pages very little hangups. The infinity isnt far behind though and i am not a fanboy for either device i think they are both great but raw performance goes to the note.
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I spend a hour testing a Galaxy Note at a local store. Because my first TF700T was broken and I decided to test the Samsung to be sure that I pick the right one again.
Yes it's fast, but fast is not everything. Haptics, design and ergonomics goes pretty clear to ASUS.
That the ASUS is slower is just a matter of the Screen Resolution. Android is not optimized for this screen size now.
So if you have a Samsung device with the same stunning display you will see that it doesn't matters wich Company you choose if the OS isn't made for it.
Plastics against metal is a unfair war but ASUS feels a lot better to hold in hand. I don't understand why Samsung still uses this cheap plastics, ok they say it is for the wight but ASUS is lighter and thinner even in Metal Case..
Over all display res is ergonomics and ergonomics are pretty much the most important part in a held-in-hands device.
Samsung can't take any competition agains the TF700T in this point. Samsung put the same Resolution as they had on the first Galaxy Note to a double as big screen. Thats just a joke for a device calles it self highend.
Only points left for samsung, if you need it, is 3G and the stylus.
The Stylus is a pretty little toy, but at all I don't know where to use it in productivity.
So my choice again was clear, ASUS will become a lot faster with 4.1 and the screen is still amazing.

kabauterman said:
I spend a hour testing a Galaxy Note at a local store. Because my first TF700T was broken and I decided to test the Samsung to be sure that I pick the right one again.
Yes it's fast, but fast is not everything. Haptics, design and ergonomics goes pretty clear to ASUS.
That the ASUS is slower is just a matter of the Screen Resolution. Android is not optimized for this screen size now.
So if you have a Samsung device with the same stunning display you will see that it doesn't matters wich Company you choose if the OS isn't made for it.
Plastics against metal is a unfair war but ASUS feels a lot better to hold in hand. I don't understand why Samsung still uses this cheap plastics, ok they say it is for the wight but ASUS is lighter and thinner even in Metal Case..
Over all display res is ergonomics and ergonomics are pretty much the most important part in a held-in-hands device.
Samsung can't take any competition agains the TF700T in this point. Samsung put the same Resolution as they had on the first Galaxy Note to a double as big screen. Thats just a joke for a device calles it self highend.
Only points left for samsung, if you need it, is 3G and the stylus.
The Stylus is a pretty little toy, but at all I don't know where to use it in productivity.
So my choice again was clear, ASUS will become a lot faster with 4.1 and the screen is still amazing.
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This is the dumbest argument. First its not cheap plastic. Do some research.
Second the infinity problem is more then just screen resolution. Asus used cheap parts in the building. Thats why you have i/o issues.
Design and ergonomics is subjective. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.
And I have no clue what you're talking about with haptic. As far as I know it works fine on the Note. At least on mine.
The ONLY advantage you could quantitatively give Asus over Samsung is the screen resolution.
Aside from screen resolution, which ultimately each individual will have to decide which one he or she wants, both tablets have advantages over the other based on how you want to use it.
The Stylus is anything but a toy. I use it exclusively with S-Note for class and at work. Plus if you have any desire to do drawing/sketching on your tablet the Note is really the only choice. The infinity is horrible at stylus work. No matter how awesome your touchscreen tune is configured.
With that said the Infinity does offer a base with extended battery, sd card and a usb connection so if those matter then take that in to account. I found I didn't use the base very much. And when trying to take notes with the "office" apps I typed way to fast and there was serious delay.
As far as mirroring Infinity has hdmi out and Note has an allshare cast dongle (I believe this works with the note). Again subjective if you will use either.
I find the note better then then infinity. But that's just opinion and the way I use a tablet.
Oh and btw. Note warranty isn't voided when you root. Or at least you can get back to complete stock.

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This is the dumbest argument. First its not cheap plastic. Do some research.
Second the infinity problem is more then just screen resolution. Asus used cheap parts in the building. Thats why you have i/o issues.
Design and ergonomics is subjective. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.
And I have no clue what you're talking about with haptic. As far as I know it works fine on the Note. At least on mine.
The ONLY advantage you could quantitatively give Asus over Samsung is the screen resolution.
Aside from screen resolution, which ultimately each individual will have to decide which one he or she wants, both tablets have advantages over the other based on how you want to use it.
The Stylus is anything but a toy. I use it exclusively with S-Note for class and at work. Plus if you have any desire to do drawing/sketching on your tablet the Note is really the only choice. The infinity is horrible at stylus work. No matter how awesome your touchscreen tune is configured.
With that said the Infinity does offer a base with extended battery, sd card and a usb connection so if those matter then take that in to account. I found I didn't use the base very much. And when trying to take notes with the "office" apps I typed way to fast and there was serious delay.
As far as mirroring Infinity has hdmi out and Note has an allshare cast dongle (I believe this works with the note). Again subjective if you will use either.
I find the note better then then infinity. But that's just opinion and the way I use a tablet.
Oh and btw. Note warranty isn't voided when you root. Or at least you can get back to complete stock.
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for me plastic is cheap, no matter what kind u use, and if you use shiny plastics thats less cheaper haptics than ASUS.
Have you tried TF700T with 4.1 JB ROM? It is a lot more responsive and no more lags at all. More Resolution means more work for the Memory even on the UI, if it isn't optimized for this it would lag. Or did you have seen a more resoponsive Full HD Tablet now?! The I/O Troubles from cheap chips? Hynix 64GB NAND chip in 2X nm technology? Not the main problem about the I/O troubles more kernel side I think.
Yes Design is subjective. But please tell me that you better choose the Note Design over the Apple iPad's or ASUS TF700's. That should be a joke. Every review out there calls the plastic cheap.. and what feels cheap has a bad haptic in my understanding.
Stylus is a pretty nice feature for sure, but to be clear if you have the choice between Full HD and Stylus I choose Full HD because more density is just more.. more website, more picture, more from everything. If you want to draw on your tablet or you take handwritten notes often the stylus is yours. But why no full hd with stylus? the Display is just cheap and the display is one of the most important parts of a tablet.
I never had any real delay on my TF700T just little lags like on the most 4.0 Devices but from what you say delay in office I've never seen anything.
Tell me you would not prefer a Galaxy Note 10.1 and ASUS TF700T combination. The best of both worlds. ASUS Metal Body, Display, Dock, Camera, DDR3 and maybe Samsungs Stylus, 2GB Dualchannel Memory, IR-remote.
And as long as this perfect tablet doesn't exists everyone have to choose wich points he gives more wight.
And WHAT?! Rooting don't viod ASUS Warranty. Even unlocked ASUS still is cool with hardware defects.
Samsung also have a way to see what you have installed on your tablet and will don't give you warranty if you do great ****. Ever heard about Binary Counter?

Ever heard of the app that resets binary counter? Not like Asus which logs your s/n and has denied many warranty claims on that fact alone.
Please, your still spewing opinion as fact.
I guess you could search the infinity forum and the note forum and see which has more complaint threads.

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you didn't?
I'm not a fanboy or something, yes I have a opinion and I give you a lot of facts for this opinion.
Even you do the same..

Well this got a lil out of hand lol. i was just answering a question that someone asked. He asked what one was faster and i gave him my opinion on it after playing with both side by side. He didn't seem worried about what they were made of, what JB would bring or what rooting/custom roms would do. Im guessing he was talking about sock out of the box devices if im worng then im sorry. I really didnt want this to turn into a flame war thread.

I have a Motorola Droid and an Infinity so if anyone wants to ask questions about that matchup, fire away.

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you didn't?
I'm not a fanboy or something, yes I have a opinion and I give you a lot of facts for this opinion.
Even you do the same..
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The only thing I stated that was a fact that made one better then the other was screen resolution.
Everything else about the two tablets comes down the subjectivity. I stated features that distinguish each tablet, but those features don't make one better then the other. It's up to each person to decide what features they want in a tablet and can live without from another.
Don't be mad dude.
And straight out of the box my opinion is the note 10.1 holds an edge as the better tablet.

i'm not a fan boy of asus, infact i have GS3. I have tried so hard to like the Galaxy Note 10.1. Bought it and returned it to bestbuy TWICE. trying to like it more than my asus and just can't. First i hate the cheap plastic YES CHEAP PLASTIC. hate it when you are holding the devices it feel SO CHEAP. Second the screen sucks compare to asus, cannot look at such low resolution and salutated colors, third i cannot get use to using a big touchwiz tablet, with all that crap installed. I understand that you can install custom rom, but 90% of the people don't even know about custom rom so they are force to use the tablet just has it is. With the infinity you don't have to do any of that. It looks plain ICS just the way i like it. Touchwiz looks to cartoony made for kids. I use my tablet for presentation and HDMI output is a must for me. Hate the way samsung uses HDMI, have to buy a $40 xtra connector plus using MHL hdmi requires Xtra power connector to an outlet for it to work. Asus tf700 run a microHDMI from tablet to HDMI TV and done.

OP - Since you have both tablets it would be benificial for everyone to see some comparison videos side by side. Only if your up to it. It does become time consuming.

I also have a note 10.1 that i won at work. Its nice, the pen thing is pretty cool but otherwise useless unless i want to draw or be an artsy pantsy dude. I mean using supernote on my infinity and writing with my fingers is as good if not better than the S pen app suite from samsung. The tablet is quite more responsive because lag plaigs the transformer but again, the TF700 has the ressources, just need to work on the software issue. The note is fatter, thicker and chunkier, it feels much cheaper also. The TF700 overall is the better tablet, it feel premium, has a beatiful screen resolution that in certain cases is better. I've compared both tablet side-by-side and played an MKV bluray rip and suprisingly the note has better, brighter colors, the blue is more blue, the greens are more green and in color saturation its considerably nicer. but unless you compare side by side, there is no way to know.
P.S. I can make a side by side video for you guys tonight

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The only thing I stated that was a fact that made one better then the other was screen resolution.
Everything else about the two tablets comes down the subjectivity. I stated features that distinguish each tablet, but those features don't make one better then the other. It's up to each person to decide what features they want in a tablet and can live without from another.
Don't be mad dude.
And straight out of the box my opinion is the note 10.1 holds an edge as the better tablet.
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I disagree. Cheap plastic, gimmick pen and horrible update history. TF700 ftw.... Also dude you need to calm down, calling other users argument stupid because they expressed an opinion shows how close minded you are. That kind of attitude is not needed on these forums.
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Ahhh.
I misunderstood the thread title.
It's about the Infinity and the Note 10.1.
Sorry I'm blind

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I disagree. Cheap plastic, gimmick pen and horrible update history. TF700 ftw.... Also dude you need to calm down, calling other users argument stupid because they expressed an opinion shows how close minded you are. That kind of attitude is not needed on these forums.
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I encourage people to express opinion. But don't express it as fact.

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That's great Well, I'm buying my first tablet and I've read many reviews and many comparisons between those 2 tablets, and I know almost everything about them. The only thing left is something that can't be written down or recorded Just out of those 2, which one is faster I know it seems like a general question but I'm talking about raw performance. As in, which one will open applications a lot faster and load them a lot faster. You know, browsers and so on.
I'd appreciate it, thanks
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I had Galaxy Note 10.1 for 3 weeks before returning. Prior to which I had Transformer Infinity for almost 4 weeks. So what I have now? I am back to Infinity and plan to keep it.
Galaxy Note 10.1 essentially superior to Infinity every aspect except screen i.e. smoother, more stable, faster (especially browser), longer tablet standalone battery life. This is a fact. You put things side by side and ran same applications, it is easy to see without even running benchmark tests.
So why I chose Infinity? Because the difference in aforementioned areas are to me not significant enough to the difference in screen resolution.
Full HD is (to me) noticeble every seconds I use the tablet. Slightly less stability i.e. random crash every other day or so (which for some reason seemed to have improved) vs. once every week is manageable. Loading web page is slower but that is like 10 seconds on really flash heavy site that I visit so I am losing probably 5-10 minutes every day at most because of the difference in page loading time.

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OP - Since you have both tablets it would be benificial for everyone to see some comparison videos side by side. Only if your up to it. It does become time consuming.
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I prolly wont do any vids there are quite a few on youtube.
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Ahhh.
I misunderstood the thread title.
It's about the Infinity and the Note 10.1.
Sorry I'm blind
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The peoples review

Hey, i am very very interested in buying this tab but most online reviews say it slow, makes sounds cause plastic is cheap, scratches easily, looks cheap and the cameras useless, made me really not want to buy it but then i thought that's what certain people who had a ics version and were just over critical so i wanna know what u guys the users of this device think of the stock jelly bean note and custom rom type options, please be honest, if there problems or things u worry about u can say
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Hey, i am very very interested in buying this tab but most online reviews say it slow, makes sounds cause plastic is cheap, scratches easily, looks cheap and the cameras useless, made me really not want to buy it but then i thought that's what certain people who had a ics version and were just over critical so i wanna know what u guys the users of this device think of the stock jelly bean note and custom rom type options, please be honest, if there problems or things u worry about u can say
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Its true that the plastic creaks slightly (for me anyways), and that it scratches easily for sure. Its true the camera isnt the best, though its not bad by any means. Honestly, the selling points here are the processor and the s-pen, and for me, thats worth it 10 times over. The spen is the best stylus solution that im aware of for any tablet. The processor is insanely fast. I have not had a single complaint about it yet. Also, the IR port is a nice extra
Tl;dr, im very satisfied.
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Its true that the plastic creaks slightly (for me anyways), and that it scratches easily for sure. Its true the camera isnt the best, though its not bad by any means. Honestly, the selling points here are the processor and the s-pen, and for me, thats worth it 10 times over. The spen is the best stylus solution that im aware of for any tablet. The processor is insanely fast. I have not had a single complaint about it yet. Also, the IR port is a nice extra
Tl;dr, im very satisfied.
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So it is fast, nice, all the reviews say is the only pro, spen and multi screen, do u miss nfc and compared to the galaxy s camera and plastic wise how is it and can you get a dock able keyboard like tab 2 or just a bluetooth one, how does the IR thing work and finally the whole split screen only works with touchwize apps right so I can't have whatsapp and a movie open at the same time, $500 is alot of cash to spend then realise that it wasn't what u expected.
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Honestly it depends what your looking for in a tablet. I got this because I wanted the spen and a fast processor. I love to doodle and this was perfect for it . I also plan to use this for notes when I start my classes. As for the camera, I never saw the point to have a back facing camera on a tablet; its super awkward to take pictures with it.
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So it is fast, nice, all the reviews say is the only pro, spen and multi screen, do u miss nfc and compared to the galaxy s camera and plastic wise how is it and can you get a dock able keyboard like tab 2 or just a bluetooth one, how does the IR thing work and finally the whole split screen only works with touchwize apps right so I can't have whatsapp and a movie open at the same time, $500 is alot of cash to spend then realise that it wasn't what u expected.
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It is the fastest device I've ever uses , IR works perfectly on most of my devices at home ,split screen will include more apps in jelly bean update , the really bad thing about this tab is the silver frame , it is so damn fragile that your hand can scratch it easily and about the 500 $ is it WiFi only ?
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It is the fastest device I've ever uses , IR works perfectly on most of my devices at home ,split screen will include more apps in jelly bean update , the really bad thing about this tab is the silver frame , it is so damn fragile that your hand can scratch it easily and about the 500 $ is it WiFi only ?
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I think so, was the one on amazon, i plan to get it in korea, i think a Samsung device would be cheaper the 500 was a baseline i saw on amazon, i am a student in a school that doesn't allow tabs for notes but i will probably do research, write up projects in doc play games listen to music, i am gonna get a nice case for it, i drop my stuff alot, in a case can it survive a couple of drops from hand height and would a case make it alot stronger and less noisy
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I think so, was the one on amazon, i plan to get it in korea, i think a Samsung device would be cheaper the 500 was a baseline i saw on amazon, i am a student in a school that doesn't allow tabs for notes but i will probably do research, write up projects in doc play games listen to music, i am gonna get a nice case for it, i drop my stuff alot, in a case can it survive a couple of drops from hand height and would a case make it alot stronger and less noisy
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If you get a good case, youre set... i got the poetic slimbook case and while its allaround decent, i dropped my tablet once and now i have a nasty scuff on the corner and the back almost popped off o.o
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So it is fast, nice, all the reviews say is the only pro, spen and multi screen, do u miss nfc and compared to the galaxy s camera and plastic wise how is it and can you get a dock able keyboard like tab 2 or just a bluetooth one, how does the IR thing work and finally the whole split screen only works with touchwize apps right so I can't have whatsapp and a movie open at the same time, $500 is alot of cash to spend then realise that it wasn't what u expected.
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i never had nfc... multiscreen is nice and ive even found legitimate use in it when doing problems from the book (open in Polaris office) on S-note, side by side. Its nice but its not a reason to buy this tablet. Maybe it will be witn the jellybean update. The galaxy s camera is probably better, but again: Its a freaking 10 inch tablet rofl.. are you planning on doing photoshoots with this 10inch wall between the models and yourself?
You can get a bluetooth keyboard but as far as i know, samsung never went through making the keyboard dock they were planning to. You can just buy the galaxy tab 10.1" one and sand off the sides a bit.. i remember reading aboout that a few days ago (google it).
The IR port gives this thing the ability to be a universal remote control. Thats it.
Multiscreen can only do Polaris office, browser, snote, video player, gallery and Samsung's email client. Maybe JB will change that.
Go test it out at your local best buy so you know what youre getting yourself into.
As for the camera, I never saw the point to have a back facing camera on a tablet; its super awkward to take pictures with it.
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Awesome, i am a heavy gamer, things like nova 3, grand theft auto, deap space, that type of stuff, does the tablet do heavy gaming
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I play each of those games on the Note with no issues whatsoever. I use a PS3 controller with them to make it even better!

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I play each of those games on the Note with no issues whatsoever. I use a PS3 controller with them to make it even better!
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Thats so cool, looks like note it is, just need to get a good price in Korea, i am student so tight budget and all, my Korean friend who goes back there during holidays gonna look for me and if the price right buy it, i can't forsee any problems using it in South Africa if i bought it in Korea, change system language nice thing i can get Korean updates without flashing, does the note do the calling with earphones like tab 2 or don't u need earphones or what and finally is the warranty global
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As others have said: it depends what you want to do with it.
I want to use my tablet in a productive way. I write notes, use it with pdfs and annotating them and learning languages (flash cards).
I am a hobby photographer and enjoy doing sorting, selecting and light editing on the tablet instead of the desktop PC. I plan to experiment with more heavy stylus editing in the future.
Camera on a tablet is a non-issue for me. As far as i'm concerned a tablet could come with only a front-facing camera for skype.
For my taste all phone and tablet cameras are junk and only useful for quick snapshots. That's why I don't need a tablet cam.
Scratching is a non-issue for me as well. I treat my stuff way more delicately than other people apparently.
Squeaking? When i lay on my back and hold the Note with one hand above my face the torquing will give a extremely mild squeak from the bezel area. Nothing worrying.
Everything runs smooth as butter.
Battery is amazing.
The big points for the Note are the stylus and the multiscreen functionality and the mini apps. For me who uses it mostly productively it is amazing. I suppose others who are more into entertainment want more; I am quite satisfied.
I guess there are better choices for purely entertainment, passive purposes.
Btw: afaik gadgets are more expensive in korea. Sometimes they have models not available anywhere else though (not the case with note 10.1 though afaik)

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Btw: afaik gadgets are more expensive in korea. Sometimes they have models not available anywhere else though (not the case with note 10.1 though afaik)
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Interesting i would of expected a Samsung device manufactured in Korea to be cheaper there, the more expensive prices in Korea take about $200-$400 off the price if you were to get it in South Africa which takes it from hellishly expensive to reasonable price and more importantly affordable and buyable
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Let me put it this way you have Ipads and you have Android Tablets (not taking in Windows8 tablets bec still new) If you want a Vanila tablet which will only allow you to do what i can do go for an Ipad, but if you want sometime more professional and something that you can customized then you need to look at an Android device, forget what all the reviews say this is one of the best Android tablets out there.
Those who say that its laggy and all that **** are idiot who are just lying, I always believe the proof is in the pudding if you have a friend who owns one just see it for yourself open as many apps as you can and see whether it lags or not.
With respect to multiscreen yes it is limited and may grow with JB but then there is no other Android tablet with that feature.
The battery life is great, yes its a plastic body and hence creeks will be there as thats more a charectristic of plastic though I have noticed non, nor do have any scratches.
But overall the build quality is good.
Again it depends what are you looking for in a tablet, but I can say one thing for sure do not go by what reviews say they are bull ****

Apparently Kprea has very genetous tax benefits for exports.
In the end it doesn't really matter since your friend is going to check the actual price and get a final confirmation.
As for bargain shopping: nothing beats the US (generally speaking) for electronics and many other stuff.

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Apparently Kprea has very genetous tax benefits for exports.
In the end it doesn't really matter since your friend is going to check the actual price and get a final confirmation.
As for bargain shopping: nothing beats the US (generally speaking) for electronics and many other stuff.
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Of course. I was refering to pure purchase price. Mail ordering internationally extremely rarely works out to ones benefit in terms of bargain shopping.

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Of course. I was refering to pure purchase price. Mail ordering internationally extremely rarely works out to ones benefit in terms of bargain shopping.
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Note vs ipad vs thinkpad
my experience haveing had extensive experience with 3 tablets, Ipad 2, Thinkpad slate, and Note 10.1 is:
Metal is firmer than plastic. duh but plastic is lighter than metal so all and all I dont think the construction of the Note is an issue at all besides nearly everyoen puts it in a case so who cares what the back is made out of if you have it in a case anyway I never understood the revewers obsession with this. To me the reviewers who focus overmuch on the materia used are either intentionally being biased towards apple or are completely out of touch with how most peopel use the tablet.
The thinkpad was built really well externally (my power button broke and had to be repaired) adn had a variety of very convienient ports but it was a bit bulky and a bit buggy, all and all I liked it alot and it converted me from ios to my first android product so I have very little bad to say about it.
the ipad2 is what it is, it works well for basic content consumption, my wife figured out how to use it in no time, it is boring to use and if you want to do something with it like put a movie on it or download a torrent or put a widget or send multiple things in an email your pooched it cant and wont do it. In my opinion sharing files,calendar items,pictures etc is so half baked in ios that it is laughable! Hardly any reviewers talk about how easy it is to share stuff with android again an indication that they are mostly out to lunch with how people use their devices.
Note 10.1 by far the best of the bunch, the build quality is fine I have very little creaking if any on mine and now that it is in a case it feels as solid as my wifes ipad (also in a case) only a bit lighter. Speed and lag very fast no lag I cant for the life of me understand how reviewers describe this tablet as laggy either they have a lemon or they are full of sh**. I have had no lag I have had it side by side with my wife ipad2 and have opened a bunch of apps side by side and loaded a dozen web pages and the note is always faster (as you woudl expect since it is a current gen product and the ipad 2 is not).
Mini apps, I love them there has been lots of times when I am in the middle of reading or editing a document and someone asks me to check email, or to calculate something and I just pop up the mini apps and then close it when done. sure it would be nice to have more options for apps that will multi task but all and all this is a great feature that I have used losts
Screen: sure not Hd but to be honest I really dont miss the HD option the screen looks good to me and I have no trouble watching a movie or reading a web page or email on it so I am happy to compromise the HD screen to have the spen which I like and use alot.
since moving from my ipad and iphone 3gs I have fully converted to android the note 10.1 and my SGIII work perfect together and are much more versatile than my iphone/ipad combo due to the enhanced sharing and tethering options .

Can anyone please tell that how is the internal memory divided in the note 10.1 in each of the16, 32 and 64 versions? I think it is divided in 3 parts(useable internal memory, USB and system partition)

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Just remember though, if you need to return it for warranty fix you're gonna have to go back to Korea... I bought a Note 10.1 off the net and it came from from Austria, I live in Australia. It fried itself good and I had to return it for warranty, Australian repairers won't touch it under warranty as its not covered under Samsung's Australian warranty. Has to be sent back to Austria.... I sent it back to company a few days ago, I'm waiting to hear back from them.....
Got another one though, from Australia this time, as you would be surprised how you miss it... Will be eating rice and tuna for the next month or so...

[Q] Buying a Tab 2 10.1 Tomorrow. Any reasons not to?

Hi!
In order to study a little better and browse/mail too, I finally decided to get a tablet. After discarding the iPad because I get frustrated after a while using it, I was going for the Note 10.1 but I won't be needing a good stylus anymore and I'm way more comfortable using a "cheaper" 330€ tablet than a 500€ one, so the only option left is the Tab 2 10.1 with the pretty nice pop up apps that compensates the lack of MultiWindow (which I hate in my Galaxy S2) (I'm not considering a tablet without good customization like Touchwiz. I want the S-Calendar and in a tablet, plain Android is kind of boring.)
So I wanted to ask if you guys told me not to buy it for any reasons. Or maybe you encourage me even more!
PS: Won't use it for games. I just need decent smoothness and good battery, which I'm pretty sure I'll get with the P5110.
Thanks!

Within 8 months: Motorola Xoom, Kindle Fire, Nexus 7, SGT 7.
I use for reading books, PDA, GPS in car, listening to music and rarely a camera. A 10" tablet was too clumsy for me to hold in one hand and the GPS too large to use while driving.
When you go to buy shop around for your 10 choice. There were many deals a couple of weeks ago.
BTW, I found if you don't like what you get the used market is brisk and you can get back most of what you pay.

I genuinely cannot fault this tablet. Bought it about 2 months ago on an impulse buy. Set me back £230 and honestly one of the best purchases I've ever made. It does everything you want from a tablet plus more. The jellybean update just reiterates how good the tablet is for the price. There is very little to no lag, The screen is absolutely amazing, speakers are fantastic. If you want a speedy android tablet for an absolute bargain, definitely get one. All i want now is multiscreen!
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I genuinely cannot fault this tablet. Bought it about 2 months ago on an impulse buy. Set me back £230 and honestly one of the best purchases I've ever made. It does everything you want from a tablet plus more. The jellybean update just reiterates how good the tablet is for the price. There is very little to no lag, The screen is absolutely amazing, speakers are fantastic. If you want a speedy android tablet for an absolute bargain, definitely get one. All i want now is multiscreen!
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Thank you!
Yeah MultiWindow would be great...

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Within 8 months: Motorola Xoom, Kindle Fire, Nexus 7, SGT 7.
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So, wait 8 months for something "better" knowing that 8 moths from that time there will be a list of "even better" devices. They cycle never ends. There is no way to stay ahead of the curve; except to buy every device.
But more to the point, you other comments are valid. For straight up reading the 10 inch is a tad cumbersome.
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antonio1475 said:
Hi!
So I wanted to ask if you guys told me not to buy it for any reasons. Or maybe you encourage me even more!
PS: Won't use it for games. I just need decent smoothness and good battery, which I'm pretty sure I'll get with the P5110.
Thanks!
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I've had my 10.1 for a couple of months and I couldn't be happier with it. So far, I use it for social stuff, reading and movies and have no complaints at all. Running AOKP JB. No complaints at all.

I already have it since a few hours. It's great. A little bit laggy with 4.0.3 but I'm going to update to JB right now
Thank you
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antonio1475 said:
So I wanted to ask if you guys told me not to buy it for any reasons. Or maybe you encourage me even more!
PS: Won't use it for games. I just need decent smoothness and good battery, which I'm pretty sure I'll get with the P5110.
Thanks!
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It's a bit of a toss up imo. first of all, it isn;t cheap, although for comparable models it is great imo, and for what it is, it is great imo. being a tablet.
My assessment is it has reasonable power for comparable tablets, it is imo way better than a IPAD, even a 3, though the screen and camera are not as good, the apple is just annoying on almost all levels, imo. I am just getting into rooting it and the benefits that come along with that (And being careful to try to steer away from the bans of it.) and I am quite satisfied with my GT-P5113. which is the 16 GB, wifi only. I use VOIP, remotely control my systems and use my file servers for the heavier lifting from the tablet, and it goes pretty flawlessly. I also occasionally play some games, though honestly most are lower end at this stage for the tablet I think, there are still decent ones. same with applications....If I want to edit video/etc, I'll do it on my main systems, or remotely on my main systems from my tablet.
That being said, it is pretty good for music, ok, for playing videos after converting to a reasonable format, and imo excellent for reading ebooks of all types. I like the larger screen rather than the smaller ones frankly. it IS unwieldy, but a hand puck (simply a small puck to attach to the middle of the back. I made mine, but I believe they make them, and mines attached by velcro, for easy removing. scratchy side on the puck.) removes that problem, imo. (It also allows me to attach it to my car's dash and motocycle also.) anyways, I do not know any reason not to buy it, really, unless you want to spend way more money than the others are worth imo. It works. and it works well imo.

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It's a bit of a toss up imo. first of all, it isn;t cheap, although for comparable models it is great imo, and for what it is, it is great imo. being a tablet.
My assessment is it has reasonable power for comparable tablets, it is imo way better than a IPAD, even a 3, though the screen and camera are not as good, the apple is just annoying on almost all levels, imo. I am just getting into rooting it and the benefits that come along with that (And being careful to try to steer away from the bans of it.) and I am quite satisfied with my GT-P5113. which is the 16 GB, wifi only. I use VOIP, remotely control my systems and use my file servers for the heavier lifting from the tablet, and it goes pretty flawlessly. I also occasionally play some games, though honestly most are lower end at this stage for the tablet I think, there are still decent ones. same with applications....If I want to edit video/etc, I'll do it on my main systems, or remotely on my main systems from my tablet.
That being said, it is pretty good for music, ok, for playing videos after converting to a reasonable format, and imo excellent for reading ebooks of all types. I like the larger screen rather than the smaller ones frankly. it IS unwieldy, but a hand puck (simply a small puck to attach to the middle of the back. I made mine, but I believe they make them, and mines attached by velcro, for easy removing. scratchy side on the puck.) removes that problem, imo. (It also allows me to attach it to my car's dash and motocycle also.) anyways, I do not know any reason not to buy it, really, unless you want to spend way more money than the others are worth imo. It works. and it works well imo.
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Too much imo, imo.