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Hello everyone,
I would like some advice from you guys as I think you know what you're talking about (and I don't in this area )
Situation:
* not an IT'er, hence not informed about these things
* Current phone = Nokia E51
* Has a long battery life and hence very reliable
* I have a long commute to work every day
Lots of time (waiting) on the train
Would like a phone to mitigate the boredom
Expectations for a new cell phone:
* Battery life of minimally 24 hours
I want to be able to take it off the power grid at 7am on a friday only to have to plug it back in again around 7am on saturday with quite some power (20-25%-ish) to spare
* After having done the following:
some texting and a few minutes of calls throughout the day and evening
browsing/using youtube/watching some movies or listening to music for +-2hours
being able to go out with it at night and google some random stuff (i.e. checking which movies they're playing etc.)
without having to worry in any degree whatsoever that I'll be left with a dead phone in case something unexpected happens during the night (car breakdowns or other accidents, hospital visits, friends or family who urgently need to contact me, etc.)
* Other points of interest:
Budget doesn't matter too much, can be cheap and can be expensive
Screen needs to be fit for reading on the internet/some pdf's etc
No physical keyboard
I do not care about the camera functions
Already took a look at:
* Windowsphone / blackberry (Not my cup of tea)
* HTC (Have only heard bad things about this, and all the people I know who had one got rid of it)
* Iphone (Itunes annoys me, and so do the apple people who freak out about their cell phones)
* Samsung Galaxy S2
Was blown away when I saw this phone
Went to order it yesterday after having read unanimously positive reviews (techradar and such)
Then read about the battery life span which renders it useless to me (had no idea that people can live with that kind of thing in this day and age)
Cancelled it about 2 hours ago and got my money back, thankfully.
* Nokia 5800
link to phone
My brother has this and is happy about it
I can't imagine there's nothing better on the market than a 3 year old phone
So long story short:
I would greatly appreciate any suggestions you guys might have for a phone that would suit me. Perhaps I'm too demanding for current technology?
Thanks guys.
When I got the Galaxy S the Battery life was maybe 8 hours. After rooting the phone deleting all the bloatware and installing a custom rom, Well.......... 30 hours +/-.
The point is battery life is soley contingent on how you set up the phone and what you do with it. Frankly, out of the box, Samsung sets the phone up poorly. That is how forums like these got started, They saw great hardware and sucky software.
Now, The S2 is awesome hardware, and the development on it is just beginning. I would recommend you read the S2 forum general and development sections. You are going to find that people have addressed the battery problem.
My Galaxy-S Phone I bought 2 batteries so I would never have to worry about battery...... now, I do not know where the spares are it has been so long since I have needed them.
I would be using the S2 if it was available here in the USA NOW. But we still have to wait 45 days more.
Read up on that forum here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1055
Right Now the best phone out there is the S2
Stick with the Android Format it is way more flexible Win-7 is decent but not enough support, and win7 and Iphone do not make it easy to modify the phone.
Other than the email syncing advantage on the Blackberry it offers nothing else. Android long term is the way to go.
Hope that helps
Yes I followed that forum for a while, which is what made me cancel my order for the S2.
People are getting horrible battery life out of it that is nowhere near the 24hour minimum range I'm requiring, and I doubt they'll be adding 50% to the battery life it currently has.
On a different forum where I posted the same question, one advice that has come in by now is this:
Motorola Defy with Cyanogenmod that puts the latest android OS on it.
I'd like to have a few options though so suggestions are still more than welcome.
I would still go for the GS2 despite the battery issues it will be a great phone
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I would still go for the GS2 despite the battery issues it will be a great phone
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There is no "despite" the battery issue I'm not buying a phone to babysit it.
some one said I should post this on a mainstream board, so it will help out others too, I am too lazy to edit the some things so please pretend that I am refering to JUST YOUR PHONE. This basically apply's to every ones phone. Even the iphone. so please ignore droid turbo and copy and paste your phone name. take everything with a grain of salt. I refuse to take any one seriously if you fail to see that you missed the point of my thread. here it comes (copy and paste lol desu).
So I pick up my Droid Trubo (only for the specs) and I noticed that Verizon is claiming that you can get a whole 48 hours off your phone with out having to charge your phone within those 48 hours. makes me giggle but the battery is a 3900mAh battery. Pretty sweet, but inevitably on day one release I have seen articles and posts of people claiming that they only get no less then 9-12 hours on there turbo before they have to charge..... (Not claiming I know all there is to phones) but I had a feeling that any one complaining about the battery on there phone probably (in fact i am 110% sure) that they have no idea what exactly takes up power usage on there phone. I charge my phone up to about 100 percent, I used it consistently watching you tube video's web browsing listening to music, all that jazz, you name it and I probably did it. After a whole 25 hours(in counting) my phone sat at a woping 67% battery charge. Verizon held up there part of the bargain and this is by no means them lieing to us. So I am going to start listing off on why your phone literally dies after only 5 hours.
1.Brightness: Thats rite folks, turning your brightness to the max is a very sexy way to speed up the process of killing your battery, I highly recommend that you simply set the brightness to automatic and you should be set. Brightness kills your battery, but this is not the only thing that you probably goofed in, lets read on.
1.Wallpaper: You know, I kinda don't consider this one to be much of a big deal, but it is true non the less(still kinda not that big of deal) but have LIVE wallpaper does consume much more power vs having just a normal wallpaper background.
3. Mother fu**ing gps/location : So I noticed that every one and there grandmother, turns on the GPS/location(well, more like you hit yes to turn it on and forgot about it sense) setting on there device for Google map, or maybe you want your friends to know where your making yourself look lost with selfie picks of Facebook or instagram. Now let me tell you having the gps setting to detect your location or use it on google maps KILLS YOUR BATTERY faster then you can say "How do i get to the control panel?". Generally on your average phone your looking at (if your lucky) a solid 4-6 hours before you have to charge your phone because you have this on all the time(and probably everything else I list aswell). The GPS tracking system is always on REGARDLESS if you are or not using google maps, facebook, instagram etc. I can imagine that with turbo you would only survive for a good 10 hours before you have to charge your phone again. Make sure you go into your phone setting and turn of gps location and only use it when you need it at that time.
Mobile and Wifi usage: Now, Of course this takes up power, but I always get a kick out of watching every one have there wifi AND there mobile data active at the same time. This is very effective for killing your phone sooner, rather then later. Dont get me wrong your phone is either going to use one or the other, but its still outputting power to keep a connection, VS having it actually turned off, and having it simply notify you that there is a connection available.
Now Maybe alot of you are like "this guy does not know what he's talking about I have this on all the time and I still only get 10 hours". If you are thinking this, I recommend you take the moment to stand up take 2 steps back and punch yourself in the stomach, when your able to breath come back and go through the steps in making sure that your phone does not have all these setting turn on at ones.
Ya, ultimately this is the bread and butter list that kills peoples battery's that I see all the time (dont play yourself, you know who you are) . So I guess I will go just a little more in-depth on how I get an easy 48 hours on the phone with no sweat.
Ultimately, when I am at my house, I keep my wifi data on, with my brightness set to auto. As far as Droids turbo goes, this will be easy peasy for your phone to get to the whole day, go ahead and watch some you-tube videos, hell take a bunch of pictures while your at it, (fun fact, your video recorder is pretty niffty for draining battery) I only turn my gps location on when I need to get from point A to Point B and always remember to turn it of after I am done using it.
I want to talk about 1 more technical thing before I Wrap this up, I notice that some people say "I checked my battery today and it says that this app took up 30% of my power! WTF? I disabled it and removed it). you guys mite want to pay better attention to the battery, for example, my phone lost about a good 5% after like 1-2 hours of you-tube or something, when I looked at the battery status rite from the get go, it told me that you tube took 70% of my power usage. but mind you, your phone is telling you it took up 70% of power in the 5% battery period. some people don't pay close attention to these details so when they go on there battery status at the end of the day they do back-flips for days on the fact that there app or (my favorite) screen took up so much power on there phones.
Ya my guide is not the best, just posting this out there to hopefully get this concept through to some people. I am just your average power user, with a nice phone, and a ton of trig homework to catch up on, feel free to ask me any question, I mite go and post this in the general/Q & A threads.
Just got done proof reading, If things are still terrible, I recommend you kill it with fire, and hyperventilate until your amazon prime order of frozen yogurt arrives at the back of your basement step.
UPDATE: Ok, just so I stop getting bombarded with these pointless reply's (who am I kidding some one is still gonna call me a dumbass am I rite?) this is what I expect for you guys to get out of this thread, I will use myself in this example).
ME : let's see so I turned off all my features on the phone (or for what ever reason some of you like to call it a dumb phone). Now everything is OFF.
- I am sitting down and I want to shoot a text or make a phone call to my friend. I do just that that and......OH SNAP! I don't need my mobile 4g lte to be turned on if all I am doing is sending/receiving text messages/phone calls. Sweet! BUT WAIT, I want to go on SPACE-BOOK AND want to know when people post comments on my selfies! Then I will simply keep my mobile data on 24/7(when I am at home switch to my wifi and turn off mobile) so I can retrieve those oh so important selfie updates! I know keeping mobile data on at all times will drain my batter faster then having it off, but for just posting comments on space-book, or doing web serfing that should be of no problem ESPECIALLY if you have the turbo. So flick the mobile data on if you want to know whats going on in your twitter or what have you. I don't twitter, space-book, instagram or any of that Personally, I only turn on mobile data when I need to web browse (I do heavy web browsing myself, but that wont be too much battery drain.). Thats just me. Pick your options and learn what takes up more power when you do it. Learn what you need to do to accomplish these goals through out the day because lets face it people, selfies make the world go round. I mean if you go to the gym and work out for 2 hours but did not take a selfie, then it does not count. every one know that! (to keep myself sain, you will notice I will constantly be mis pronouncing names and I will be using Selfies as a general term for "those people" that like to take pictures of everything. I have to point this out because some one will say "I dont just take selfies I take "insert stupid category here" with my phone! YES because I am sure what ever pictures you take is of that much different from selfies!")
2. Alrgiht! So I leave my mobile data on all the time go web serfing and I take selfies of myself looking lost in towns. No problem for the droid turbo! but you know what? I also want to watch a bunch of video's! whatching video's on your phone will of course drain the battery faster (stack that on with user number 1.) though it does take away more power from your phone its not that bad if the video is actually on your phone, what's that? you want to go to youtube and watch 720 or 1080p cat video's. Thats gonna cost more resources, your going to need your phone to output its data connection to start STREAMING 720 or 1080p cat video's! Thats pretty demanding for anyphone regardless. If you do it here and there through out the day, you will lose power faster, but if you stream 720p cat video's all day, then your turbo probably wont survive the 24 hour mark. (2 hours streaming cat videos and 2 girls one cup is not going to destroy your phone but it will require a nice chunk of your battery non the less).
3. HOLD ON NOW, I need people to know where I am at 24/7 so lets flick on that locations app! once again this will stack on to your demanding needs of power, 24/7 mobile data turn on with your 2 hours of streaming 720p cat video's and 2 girls 1 cup, with selfies (lets not forget your camera and video record do tend to take up power giving you those true HD pictures. Now you got your phone Twerking to constantly feed your location to your app. Then it costs even more power when you use it.
4. I also want max screen brightness and my Bluetooth (though bluetooth is not so bad, just depends how you use it) for my headphones....I also want to have high frequency mode turned on while im at it too so I can use gps!.....with a LIVE wallpaper!
Do you guys see where I am getting at with all this? you need to treat your phone like a car. you need to know what features take up how much power and how long you plan to keep them on. I am not telling you, to turn EVERYTHING OFF and boom 48 hours. I am telling you that your phone has a **** ton of power and its up to you to learn what apps and what features drain how much power and how fast and how long do you plann to use it? You may think its so small or it does not take that much power but the more you stack things on to your phone the more power its going to need. You need to think about it like if it was yourself. If I told you to walk for one mile you would totally (I hope) be fine doing it no sweat, but what If i told you to RUN for one mile your body is going to take way more energy to make you run at a descent pace vs walking. I really do hope (in my opinion) my fun explanation helps you guys understand the concept's of phone power usage. Over time if your like me and a few other power users I know, you will have absolutely no problems what so ever keeping your phone alive, because we piratically know when its going to die and when we will need to charge. comes with experience.
Final note: just remember, if you think this is stupid or all this is a waist of time, then I recommend punching yourself in the stomach and simply waiting for that amazon prime order of frozen yogurt to arrive at your door step. that's all I got to say, Im gonna go through and proof read this so it does not sound too dumb (i gotta get back to that trig homework). I need to emphasize though, if your gonna be naive and not see the point of my thread, just punch you self in the stomach and take a selfie saying you just got done working out, it works EVERY TIME, I promise!
ome one said I should post this on a mainstream board, so it will help out others too, I am too lazy to edit the some things so please pretend that I am refering to JUST YOUR PHONE. This basically apply's to every ones phone. Even the iphone. so please ignore droid turbo and copy and paste your phone name. take everything with a grain of salt. I refuse to take any one seriously if you fail to see that you missed the point of my thread. here it comes (copy and paste lol desu).
So I pick up my Droid Trubo (only for the specs) and I noticed that Verizon is claiming that you can get a whole 48 hours off your phone with out having to charge your phone within those 48 hours. makes me giggle but the battery is a 3900mAh battery. Pretty sweet, but inevitably on day one release I have seen articles and posts of people claiming that they only get no less then 9-12 hours on there turbo before they have to charge..... (Not claiming I know all there is to phones) but I had a feeling that any one complaining about the battery on there phone probably (in fact i am 110% sure) that they have no idea what exactly takes up power usage on there phone. I charge my phone up to about 100 percent, I used it consistently watching you tube video's web browsing listening to music, all that jazz, you name it and I probably did it. After a whole 25 hours(in counting) my phone sat at a woping 67% battery charge. Verizon held up there part of the bargain and this is by no means them lieing to us. So I am going to start listing off on why your phone literally dies after only 5 hours.
1.Brightness: Thats rite folks, turning your brightness to the max is a very sexy way to speed up the process of killing your battery, I highly recommend that you simply set the brightness to automatic and you should be set. Brightness kills your battery, but this is not the only thing that you probably goofed in, lets read on.
1.Wallpaper: You know, I kinda don't consider this one to be much of a big deal, but it is true non the less(still kinda not that big of deal) but have LIVE wallpaper does consume much more power vs having just a normal wallpaper background.
3. Mother fu**ing gps/location : So I noticed that every one and there grandmother, turns on the GPS/location(well, more like you hit yes to turn it on and forgot about it sense) setting on there device for Google map, or maybe you want your friends to know where your making yourself look lost with selfie picks of Facebook or instagram. Now let me tell you having the gps setting to detect your location or use it on google maps KILLS YOUR BATTERY faster then you can say "How do i get to the control panel?". Generally on your average phone your looking at (if your lucky) a solid 4-6 hours before you have to charge your phone because you have this on all the time(and probably everything else I list aswell). The GPS tracking system is always on REGARDLESS if you are or not using google maps, facebook, instagram etc. I can imagine that with turbo you would only survive for a good 10 hours before you have to charge your phone again. Make sure you go into your phone setting and turn of gps location and only use it when you need it at that time.
Mobile and Wifi usage: Now, Of course this takes up power, but I always get a kick out of watching every one have there wifi AND there mobile data active at the same time. This is very effective for killing your phone sooner, rather then later. Dont get me wrong your phone is either going to use one or the other, but its still outputting power to keep a connection, VS having it actually turned off, and having it simply notify you that there is a connection available.
Now Maybe alot of you are like "this guy does not know what he's talking about I have this on all the time and I still only get 10 hours". If you are thinking this, I recommend you take the moment to stand up take 2 steps back and punch yourself in the stomach, when your able to breath come back and go through the steps in making sure that your phone does not have all these setting turn on at ones.
Ya, ultimately this is the bread and butter list that kills peoples battery's that I see all the time (dont play yourself, you know who you are) . So I guess I will go just a little more in-depth on how I get an easy 48 hours on the phone with no sweat.
Ultimately, when I am at my house, I keep my wifi data on, with my brightness set to auto. As far as Droids turbo goes, this will be easy peasy for your phone to get to the whole day, go ahead and watch some you-tube videos, hell take a bunch of pictures while your at it, (fun fact, your video recorder is pretty niffty for draining battery) I only turn my gps location on when I need to get from point A to Point B and always remember to turn it of after I am done using it.
I want to talk about 1 more technical thing before I Wrap this up, I notice that some people say "I checked my battery today and it says that this app took up 30% of my power! WTF? I disabled it and removed it). you guys mite want to pay better attention to the battery, for example, my phone lost about a good 5% after like 1-2 hours of you-tube or something, when I looked at the battery status rite from the get go, it told me that you tube took 70% of my power usage. but mind you, your phone is telling you it took up 70% of power in the 5% battery period. some people don't pay close attention to these details so when they go on there battery status at the end of the day they do back-flips for days on the fact that there app or (my favorite) screen took up so much power on there phones.
Ya my guide is not the best, just posting this out there to hopefully get this concept through to some people. I am just your average power user, with a nice phone, and a ton of trig homework to catch up on, feel free to ask me any question, I mite go and post this in the general/Q & A threads.
Just got done proof reading, If things are still terrible, I recommend you kill it with fire, and hyperventilate until your amazon prime order of frozen yogurt arrives at the back of your basement step.
UPDATE: Ok, just so I stop getting bombarded with these pointless reply's (who am I kidding some one is still gonna call me a dumbass am I rite?) this is what I expect for you guys to get out of this thread, I will use myself in this example).
ME : let's see so I turned off all my features on the phone (or for what ever reason some of you like to call it a dumb phone). Now everything is OFF.
- I am sitting down and I want to shoot a text or make a phone call to my friend. I do just that that and......OH SNAP! I don't need my mobile 4g lte to be turned on if all I am doing is sending/receiving text messages/phone calls. Sweet! BUT WAIT, I want to go on SPACE-BOOK AND want to know when people post comments on my selfies! Then I will simply keep my mobile data on 24/7(when I am at home switch to my wifi and turn off mobile) so I can retrieve those oh so important selfie updates! I know keeping mobile data on at all times will drain my batter faster then having it off, but for just posting comments on space-book, or doing web serfing that should be of no problem ESPECIALLY if you have the turbo. So flick the mobile data on if you want to know whats going on in your twitter or what have you. I don't twitter, space-book, instagram or any of that Personally, I only turn on mobile data when I need to web browse (I do heavy web browsing myself, but that wont be too much battery drain.). Thats just me. Pick your options and learn what takes up more power when you do it. Learn what you need to do to accomplish these goals through out the day because lets face it people, selfies make the world go round. I mean if you go to the gym and work out for 2 hours but did not take a selfie, then it does not count. every one know that! (to keep myself sain, you will notice I will constantly be mis pronouncing names and I will be using Selfies as a general term for "those people" that like to take pictures of everything. I have to point this out because some one will say "I dont just take selfies I take "insert stupid category here" with my phone! YES because I am sure what ever pictures you take is of that much different from selfies!")
2. Alrgiht! So I leave my mobile data on all the time go web serfing and I take selfies of myself looking lost in towns. No problem for the droid turbo! but you know what? I also want to watch a bunch of video's! whatching video's on your phone will of course drain the battery faster (stack that on with user number 1.) though it does take away more power from your phone its not that bad if the video is actually on your phone, what's that? you want to go to youtube and watch 720 or 1080p cat video's. Thats gonna cost more resources, your going to need your phone to output its data connection to start STREAMING 720 or 1080p cat video's! Thats pretty demanding for anyphone regardless. If you do it here and there through out the day, you will lose power faster, but if you stream 720p cat video's all day, then your turbo probably wont survive the 24 hour mark. (2 hours streaming cat videos and 2 girls one cup is not going to destroy your phone but it will require a nice chunk of your battery non the less).
3. HOLD ON NOW, I need people to know where I am at 24/7 so lets flick on that locations app! once again this will stack on to your demanding needs of power, 24/7 mobile data turn on with your 2 hours of streaming 720p cat video's and 2 girls 1 cup, with selfies (lets not forget your camera and video record do tend to take up power giving you those true HD pictures. Now you got your phone Twerking to constantly feed your location to your app. Then it costs even more power when you use it.
4. I also want max screen brightness and my Bluetooth (though bluetooth is not so bad, just depends how you use it) for my headphones....I also want to have high frequency mode turned on while im at it too so I can use gps!.....with a LIVE wallpaper!
Do you guys see where I am getting at with all this? you need to treat your phone like a car. you need to know what features take up how much power and how long you plan to keep them on. I am not telling you, to turn EVERYTHING OFF and boom 48 hours. I am telling you that your phone has a **** ton of power and its up to you to learn what apps and what features drain how much power and how fast and how long do you plann to use it? You may think its so small or it does not take that much power but the more you stack things on to your phone the more power its going to need. You need to think about it like if it was yourself. If I told you to walk for one mile you would totally (I hope) be fine doing it no sweat, but what If i told you to RUN for one mile your body is going to take way more energy to make you run at a descent pace vs walking. I really do hope (in my opinion) my fun explanation helps you guys understand the concept's of phone power usage. Over time if your like me and a few other power users I know, you will have absolutely no problems what so ever keeping your phone alive, because we piratically know when its going to die and when we will need to charge. comes with experience.
Final note: just remember, if you think this is stupid or all this is a waist of time, then I recommend punching yourself in the stomach and simply waiting for that amazon prime order of frozen yogurt to arrive at your door step. that's all I got to say, Im gonna go through and proof read this so it does not sound too dumb (i gotta get back to that trig homework). I need to emphasize though, if your gonna be naive and not see the point of my thread, just punch you self in the stomach and take a selfie saying you just got done working out, it works EVERY TIME, I promise!
Thanks!
Thank you for these info..
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Your welcome
I'll make no excuse for the title as it seems to fit quite well for how I feel about it.
About two weeks ago I purchased a Sony SW3. Lovely watch and kindof does what I want BUT.... Android wear seems little more than a proof of concept.
At the risk of infuriating AW fans, here are some of my observations:
- I turn gestures off, but the watch still turns itself on when I turn my wrist, this is intermittent behaviour but this can't be rocket science to fix and I'm on V5!
- Was travelling somewhere strange the other day and I routinely add the address of where I'm going to my diary entry (Google calendar). When I was reminded to leave, I was offer the opportunity to navigate there, but I was using a train for most of the journey so only wanted to use navigate when I got the the end station. Call up the 'agenda' entry on my watch, can see the entry, can see the address, but do you think I could get the navigate function to work... NO, touching the address didn;t work, voice commands didn't recognise the foreign restaurant name, and I had no way of entering the address manually! Arrgh
- Cards/notices appearing. What a lovely feature, each time I get a message, email or whatever, my watch lights up and buzzes. Really? Ok I can see that some will find this useful, but really I want to gentle reminder , eg a buzz and if it's convenient I'll see what caused it by switching it on. A bit like theatre/Cinema mode, but I need the vibration to alert me... What I don't need is the thing lighting up every time I get a 'notice', draining the battery and telling everyone who can see! I get quite a few messages and find it strange this feature has not been considered/withdrawn by now. In fact the only useful time the watch should light up is an incoming call so I can see who and accept/reject.
- Whilst on the subject of rejecting a call, why doesn't it offer me the option of rejecting and sending a text message at the same time, a bit like you can when you reject a call on the handset.... Seems an obvious feature really.
- OK Google, doesn't launch applications I've downloaded, eg: I downloaded from the apps store a compass application. OK Google, compass - it gets me info on a company called compass!
- OK Google, Natigate to (insert a name of a contact)... Brings up a linkedin profile....
OK, rant over and I'm happy to concede that it may be my ignorance that I am frustrated so I'm happy to be correctly by fellow early adopters.... Or am I not alone
You've done the same mistake as all wear beginners when it comes to gestures. Forget that setting in watch menu and instead investigate wear companion app settings closer.
Hi thanks for the advice. Just searched the store but couldn't find anything. Suggestions appreciated?
Iain
The wear companion app is the app on your phone which you connect to your phone via. Click cog wheel. Click watch name. Untick tilt to wake option.
When I tell my watch to navigate to somewhere, a beautiful Maps shows up and gets me there... I think you are too fast at judging A.Wear Take time to discover it!
Install Android wear mini launcher also.
Android Wear is built to be minimal - it compliments your phone, it's not supposed to replace it. It just decreases the amount of times you have to pull your phone out of your pocket.
The Apple Watch is the one that's supposed to "replace" your phone in more instances. It's more complicated.
Android Wear is for quick replies, information, and helpful tools.
Welcome to the team by the way!
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So, the recommendation I have heard over and over again is in order to increase battery life, disable the features that make the watch useful. Tilt to wake is important, and disabling it on the sw3 does not significantly improve battery life. There are problems with this software. I am on my third watch, and still after a lot of tweaking only get 24 hours (when I am lucky) per charge. This watch is supposed to last over two days. When I am not lucky, I get two hours on a charge.
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So, the recommendation I have heard over and over again is in order to increase battery life, disable the features that make the watch useful. Tilt to wake is important, and disabling it on the sw3 does not significantly improve battery life. There are problems with this software. I am on my third watch, and still after a lot of tweaking only get 24 hours (when I am lucky) per charge. This watch is supposed to last over two days. When I am not lucky, I get two hours on a charge.
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Yeah. battery life was great on 5.0.2 We just have to wait until the next update, which both sony and google have said that they are working on.
Recharge once a day, and on unplugging, restart the watch. Many people have reported this gives the best results. FWIW I have all options turned on, and as long as I'm not hit with the bug, battery life is about what it was before 5.1.1.
Interesting, but...
Thanks everybody for your thoughts.
Firstly, I have tried switching off motion gestures using the Phones Wear application, but there wasn't an independent setting. I therefore downloaded a third party 'advance setting' application. It offered me more choices but didn't make a blind bit of difference.
Secondly, gestures are a personal thing so I'm not speaking for everybody. As I've already said I don't want the watch switching on every time I turn my wrist (my lifestyle is to active and I find it switching on when I'm doing something rather than when I want to read the time or message) or when I get a message (as I said before I want to choose when I read my messages and I don't want anyone close by to A) see I've got a message and B) be able to read the subject and who it's from). In addition battery life is, for the foreseeable future, a finite resource and all this switching on will reduce the battery life of the watch so it really annoys me that a simple setting 'Gesture OFF' is being completely ignored. I would also vote for 'Cinema mode, including vibrate'..
Thirdly, Yesterday, not for the first time, my battery drained itself in about half a day so I had to recharge the watch by about 3pm. But this time it was a little different. First thing in the morning I noticed the watch struggling to connect to my wifi, it would connect and then connect and then connect. Before anyone jumps on me saying there a problem with my wifi, there are about 10 devices that connect to my wifi and none of them get a problem. In addition I have more than one access point by different manufacturers and the watch has access to two different access points. Security is by password AND MAC address. This got me thinking. Is the wifi chip going into overdrive when it's not connected to an access point and draining the battery? I can't say for sure, but I did notice that the other days the battery suddenly drains is when I'm out and about so it may have been attempting to attached to all the access points when I'm walking about... Only a theory, but what does everybody else think?
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Yea. Drain is somewhere between decent and awful depending on setup. I get two days out of mine.
Gestures is not the same as "tilt to wake". Gestures are let you interact with Google cards by flipping your wrist. Tilt to wake is what you're after. It does just what it says and is turned off in the wear companion app on your phone. The app is called "android wear" and in the app you press a cog wheel symbol, then press the name of your watch. They're you'll find three check box settings.
Always-on screen (eats your battery like omnomnom)
Tilt to wake screen (the one you're after)
Show Google cards (shows notifications on watch)
Two days?
Wow you're getting two days out of your battery, I can only dream...
Actually I'm not being truthful with the above. After my discovery with WiFi yesterday, I turned it off today. But for good measure, I switched screen on, to on.
It's been 18 hours off charge and the battery still has 56% left... OK it's not quite a day yet and as with all testing needs to be conducted over a few days but what a difference, even better considering your comment about the battery drain with the screen on!
Thank you for the tip re tilt to wake, I've now turned it off so in theory that should improve the battery life still further.
If today's results become consistent over the next few days it'll pretty conclusive that there's a problem with the WiFi.
I tried tilt to wake for a day. It went on all the time. Always on is so dim I can't see the watch anyway. I use tap to wake with highest brightness
I've just started to try gestures. I wanna see if it's a gimmick or actually useful.
WiFi to blame
OK, is been two nearly three days since I switched WiFi off.
In that time by the end of the day (with the watch face always on) I've been left with between 50% to 25% depending on actual use. Given that it sometimes would run out of battery by 3pm this is a great improvement and highlights that there are serious problems with the WiFi implementation.
I'm now happy I purchased
I like the tilt to wake but I notice it comes on a lot. Especially when I drive at night and my whole car lights up. I like the tilt features for scrolling through notifications. I wish there was one for dismissing, but that would probably lead to missed cards.
My LG G Watch is pretty much ready for a charge by the end of the day.
Sadly my hopes for a smart watch was to save battery life on my phone, but I am finding that bluetooth on all day tends to yield me the same battery life as if I just pull my phone out each time. Overall i love the watch for when I am in the pool and busy at work.
I agree!
Tilt to wake is problematic and poorly thought through as there are way to many scenarios where it activates when not required.
I can see the logic behind moving through cards via tilt but for me I continue to switch this off as well as I find it's very easy using my other hand and there are not many time I can't do that unless driving, but then, I shouldn't be reading my messages when driving anyway... : -)
Also since turning WiFi off, after 18 hours off charge I normally have between 30-40 battery left so the battery life has stabilised.
Now looking forward to the next Sony smart watch that should be release in November.
Latest update of the port to Samsung gear 2 allows for screen always on for two workdays. I can go with that. On my wishlist now is dismiss card gesture.
I actually like the gestures. With them on, I easily go through a day. On the weekends I can see me turning it off just to conserve battery. But I use it to turn on the screen and flip through notifications all the time, and seems pretty consistant. It always does what I want when I want. The problem is it comes on when I dont want.
If the watch had an AMOLED, you could fix this by using the same black face for both ambient and active modes.
I really like the Gear S, but hopefully the 2nd gen Android watches include some of the same features. Honestly all I need from the LG G Watch is a speaker and I'd be set.
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I'm using Sony Z ultra and really want to buy SW3 for more option. Howere, when i see your review, i'm a little bit dissapointed:crying:
Depends
I can understand your disappointment, but I'm not disappointed as I consider it to be new technology and I was keen to get in early and I expected some issues.
For my part, I'm now very happy with my purchase and Amazon in the UK are now selling it at just under £100 so I also believe good value.
I am however, beginning to wonder if Wifi is the cause of the battery drain. Whilst I haven't had Wifi on since my first observation I'm thinking now it is probably a shirt sleeve activating the watch when I'm not aware and thats draining the battery very quickly. It's early days at the moment, but on two occasions I've been out and wearing a coat, on both occasions the battery was dead by the time I got home. Today I went out and wore a coat but switched cinema mode on... Battery perfect! Needs some more testing, but....
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So, the recommendation I have heard over and over again is in order to increase battery life, disable the features that make the watch useful. Tilt to wake is important, and disabling it on the sw3 does not significantly improve battery life. There are problems with this software. I am on my third watch, and still after a lot of tweaking only get 24 hours (when I am lucky) per charge. This watch is supposed to last over two days. When I am not lucky, I get two hours on a charge.
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When have ever beats any manufacturer of a watch our phone give realistic battery life specs.
warning: block of text coming but I would really, really, really appreciate the help
Hello everyone. I got the Samsung Galaxy S6 with a subscription with KPN Provider. This was almost 3 weeks ago. I received my new S6 within days but the phone was getting too hot too quickly for my taste. For simple things such as updating, browsing. Also when I played the game One Piece Treasure Cruise and used Mobizen to capture the screen so I could broadcast my gameplay through Twitch the phone would reboot automatically very quickly. This happened multiple times and I never even got a warning that the phone was getting too hot. I used to do the same thing on my S4 and it worked almost perfect. The phone would get somewhat warmer and it would lag just a little but it never just turned itself off or became hot to the touch
After checking on this forum and other websites I thought my phone was defect so I sent it back and waited for a new one. The phone they sent me after a week was exactly the same one I sent them. It was apparently a "technical mistake" and I had to send it back again so I could get a new one this time. The new phone arrived this last Thursday and immediately it became obvious that this phone suffered from the same "defect". Now though I'm not too sure if it's defect or if every Samsung Galaxy S6 is like this. So I've been keeping track
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I did some tests.
I ran Antatu Benchmark. The phone got up to 84.0 C twice once during the CPU test and once during the game test. So now im just wondering what you guys are getting during this test? Could a couple of other people do it as well and tell me what temperature their phone was? I thought this phone was working correctly.
I watched a youtube video for 23 minutes and the temperature stayed around 39.0 C - 43.0 C.
Browsing/general multitasking. So I tested having 6 apps on and Chrome having 5 tabs on. If I switch really fast between the apps the temperature gets up to 61.0 C but only stays like that for seconds and immediately goes back to 40-45.0 C. That's also the temperature the phone runs when I browse on Chrome, Facebook while having the other apps on as well.
I've been testing some more by playing the game and streaming it and the CPU stays almost exclusively under 70.0 C, around 65.0 C with some spikes to 73.0 C.
I transferred 10 screenshots from one map to another using the native folder app a couple of times. It got up to 67.0 C one time and the rest of the time it got up to 60.0 C.
It spikes to over 71.0 C for a second when it installs a new app. and sometimes when I'm playing the game, streaming and then take a screenshot.
So at first I was planning on bringing it back because I thought like the last phone that it would just reboot itself when it got really hot, over 80.0 C easily but this one is staying pretty normal I think.
I also saw this other post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/galaxy-s6-86c-normal-t3180483 and so I performed the same test.
I downloaded 3c Toolbox free version for my phone because I wasn't sure the monitor apps I had were showing the correct Temp but Toolbox shows the exact same temperatures as CPU Z.
The battery has been consistent and always around the 32-33 C temp. So I don't have any worries there. I'm still planning on going to the stores tomorrow to test the show phones. I mean if the phones that have been lying there for months and being abused by every customer have normal temps then I'm definitely trading my in. Also going to the samsung repair point to see what they have to say.
I'm using this btw as guideline for the temperature of the CPU. Don't remember where i got it from.
Normal use: 32° C - 45° C (86F – 113F) Play games or graphics applications: 50° C - 75° C (122F – 167F) CPU power is automatically reduced by a temperature over 80° C (176F)
My last phone went way over this limit I set for it with normal use being always above 50 C. This one went it's not being used is already around the 40 C.
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I just played the OPTC Global version for an hour straight. The only background apps were the monitor apps. All 3 of them were active and I was very surprised.
I made sure to have my hands all over the phone so I could always be aware of the heat. It was just warm to the touch. At the end I checked the monitor apps and they CPU Z and Toolbox gave around 57-61 C and Cool Master around 33.5 C.
I don't know why it was normal this time. I will now let it sit there for a half hour and then test it while having mobizen on and streaming to twitch through my laptop.
Btw the reason why I'm so dead set on making sure the phone can handle the game and streaming is because I actually bought the phone with the intention of being able to play this game and then be able to stream it. I managed it on S4 with some lag and I thought the S6 could easily do it as well. I know the Iphone can do it easily without even having to turn SFX off which i have to do to play it without LAG. I think that's because the Samsung Galaxy has too high of a resolution/DPI.
Ok, so I just spent an 1,5 hour playing the game and broadcasting the gameplay. I am again surprised. I mean I'm also happy but it's really strange that suddenly now it's working pretty good.
The phone got warm but I wouldn't say hot or annoying to touch really. The hottest part of the phone was right above the Power button.
The phone stayed around 68.0 C this time with some spikes to 74 but only 3 times. I took a screenshot but I can't post the link.
The game lagged a couple of times but this might have also been because of Wifi and it wasn't really that noticeable.
As soon as I stopped the phone got really cool again within 5 - 10 min.
I'm off to test the japanese version of the game. I'm really happy right now guys!
Return your S6 back to your seller for warranty replacement.
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Return your S6 back to your seller for warranty replacement.
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Hey, thanks for answering.
I'm wondering what temperature your phone runs when it's downloading and installing an app? or some other activity, that way i can compare.
I watched a youtube video for 23 minutes and the temperature stayed around 39.0 C - 43.0 C. I don't know how to test the web browsing or at least what would affect the CPU enough to show me good results.
I've been testing some more by playing the game and streaming it and the CPU stays almost exclusively under 70.0 C, around 65.0 C with some spikes.
It spikes to over 70 for a second when it installs a new app. and sometimes when I'm playing the game, streaming and then take a screenshot.
So at first I was planning on bringing it back because I thought like the last phone that it would just reboot itself when it got really hot, over 80.0C easily but this one is staying pretty normal I think.
I also saw this other post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/help/galaxy-s6-86c-normal-t3180483 and so I performed the same test. The phone reached 84.0 C twice, once during the CPU test and once during the game test. So now im just wondering what you guys are getting during this test? Could a couple of other people do it as well and tell me what temperature their phone was? I thought this phone was working correctly.