I am curious if the Wifi Calling on this device is still available if you switch ROMs to one of the AOSP or Stock OTA Roms, I have a Nexus S but I will be moving to a place for a few months and the signal sucks completely and I will need to be able to receive calls from work on my phone.
Since the Nexus S doesn't support this and the fix doesn't appear to be anytime soon, I was checking to see if this device will allow it outside of the stock ROM from T-Mobile
Yes, Wifi calling is available on other roms besides stock.
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Yes, Wifi calling is available on other roms besides stock.
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thank you so much for this reply.
I have talked to T-Mobile about the Nexus S and they were surprised that they couldn't provide Wifi Calling on it. And unlike AT&T and a few other providers, T-Mobile doesn't offer a Femtocell as a option.
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I am curious if the Wifi Calling on this device is still available if you switch ROMs to one of the AOSP or Stock OTA Roms, I have a Nexus S but I will be moving to a place for a few months and the signal sucks completely and I will need to be able to receive calls from work on my phone.
Since the Nexus S doesn't support this and the fix doesn't appear to be anytime soon, I was checking to see if this device will allow it outside of the stock ROM from T-Mobile
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It works on CM7 but has a couple issues still, and on EB Froyo it works flawless. I have been on this rom for about a week and I have to use wifi calling at my house so it is always on and I have had no problems.
You guys may or may not know that Rogers offers a WiFi Calling service, same as T-mobile (they charge though, assholes).
Basically on the i727 ROMs, this isn't an option however if you flash a T989 ROM, you get the option but it doesn't right off the bat obviously. So I found the Rogers wifi calling apk from the Evo 3D, found here.
Now when I get the app into /system/app, it force closes and nothing else, even if I rename it to WiFiCalling.apk, replacing the original t-mo one. With the standard t-mo one, I just get a ER:05 Invalid SIM which I think this is because it is trying to connect to t-mo servers.
Any way to get this working with the i727R with a combination of things from similar devices?
The error is from the sim card tmobile uses a special sim card. There is no way to get wifi calling unless you use voip calls with third party apps. The point of tmobiles wifi calling is solely to make calls in areas with low coverage so they go through tmobiles network through wifi, even if you got it working how would you expect your calls to even work.
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ebatr8 said:
The error is from the sim card tmobile uses a special sim card. There is no way to get wifi calling unless you use voip calls with third party apps. The point of tmobiles wifi calling is solely to make calls in areas with low coverage so they go through tmobiles network through wifi, even if you got it working how would you expect your calls to even work.
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Rogers is using UMA now as well (like 2 years now). The SIM error I think it's coming from the fact that the rogers SIM is connecting to a t-mobile server rather than the rogers server.
The technology is the same and keep in mind I'm talking about UMA, this isn't the same as VoIP. I think the calls can work if we match up the libraries from the evo and use the right apk, he evo has the same chipset as us also.
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If I remember correctly when I had t-mo the wifi calling still used your minutes. So the call was routed through their servers. There is no way you are going to get it to work without an active t-mo account.
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If I remember correctly when I had t-mo the wifi calling still used your minutes. So the call was routed through their servers. There is no way you are going to get it to work without an active t-mo account.
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Dude there's more companies in the world offering the same service. Such as rogers. If we get the files for Rogers then I'm very sure that we can get it working.
You are right about wifi calling using your minutes but that's nothing new, other carriers have that as well. Do you know how they route calls through their servers? Wificalling.apk from the ROM using the wifi calling feature in the ROM.
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Rogers is using UMA now as well (like 2 years now). The SIM error I think it's coming from the fact that the rogers SIM is connecting to a t-mobile server rather than the rogers server.
The technology is the same and keep in mind I'm talking about UMA, this isn't the same as VoIP. I think the calls can work if we match up the libraries from the evo and use the right apk, he evo has the same chipset as us also.
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No error is solely from the wrong sim card, new t-mobile sim cards have something built into them to communicate with tmobiles network when uma calls are made. The sgs2 and amaze 4g were tmobiles first devices to have wifi calling changed in the way they route. I dont think ive ever seen a phone have wifi calling ported to it from another carrier. Since uma is tied to the network there is no way that calls would work when trying to use uma on an unsupported network. Calls will always have to go through some type of service such as skype, wifi calling, google voice etc... So you cant just make wifi calls work on a network that doesnt support it as there is no provider to service those calls.
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No error is solely from the wrong sim card, new t-mobile sim cards have something built into them to communicate with tmobiles network when uma calls are made. The sgs2 and amaze 4g were tmobiles first devices to have wifi calling changed in the way they route. I dont think ive ever seen a phone have wifi calling ported to it from another carrier. Since uma is tied to the network there is no way that calls would work when trying to use uma on an unsupported network. Calls will always have to go through some type of service such as skype, wifi calling, google voice etc... So you cant just make wifi calls work on a network that doesnt support it as there is no provider to service those calls.
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Did you even read the OP? If Rogers didn't support it on their network, why are they selling it? Rogers doesn't support the phone (didn't install the apk and libraries on the phone), they do however support the service.
The SIM error is because the t-mobile wifi calling apk is looking for a SIM card, I'm wondering if someone can port the rogers wifi calling apk from the evo 3d to read the rogers SIM card. The libraries for wifi calling are already on the phone because of t-mobile having wifi calling. I'm not sure if they need to be modified or not but I know there's someone here that would know that. That person just has to run across this thread :/
First of all, T-Mobile doesn't charge for Wi-Fi Calling. Get your facts straight.
Second of all, you will never be able to "modify" another carrier's Wi-Fi calling and expect it to work on AT&T. It doesn't work that way. AT&T must support it.
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Most people are assuming you want this to work on at&t, the op doesnt specify. That would obviously never work, it seems like you want it to work on rogers. Its more complicated then what your making it seems when the t989 released it didnt have wifi calling and it wasnt ported over so easily because for tmobile at least it works differently then past devices thats why the sim error is important, its looking for a tmobile sim card and specifically the newer tmobile sim cards even the older ones get that error. That being said it might work differently for rogers but if its the same porting it over wont be that easy as installing the apk and lib files. There are more components then that to tmobiles wifi calling so you may want to ask in the evo forums for all the components to make wifi calling work on the evo.
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Most people are assuming you want this to work on at&t, the op doesnt specify. That would obviously never work, it seems like you want it to work on rogers. Its more complicated then what your making it seems when the t989 released it didnt have wifi calling and it wasnt ported over so easily because for tmobile at least it works differently then past devices thats why the sim error is important, its looking for a tmobile sim card and specifically the newer tmobile sim cards even the older ones get that error. That being said it might work differently for rogers but if its the same porting it over wont be that easy as installing the apk and lib files. There are more components then that to tmobiles wifi calling so you may want to ask in the evo forums for all the components to make wifi calling work on the evo.
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Thanks, probably the most helpful direction yet. Although I would like to point out that I wanna get it working for i727R, not i727... If I went through the bother of putting the extra R in there, I would expect people to notice it. The i727R is Rogers. I wanna get this working on Rogers, the post describes Rogers as offering the service and the entire time I only mention Rogers rather than AT&T, I don't see how most people would assume I wanna get this working on AT&T.
Unless most people don't actually read or like to post just to get their post count up regardless of how useless the post was.
I'll start checking out the EVO forums to find out how this thing works a bit more in detail tonight.
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got it to work on htc sensation with older rom
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You guys may or may not know that Rogers offers a WiFi Calling service, same as T-mobile (they charge though, assholes).
Basically on the i727 ROMs, this isn't an option however if you flash a T989 ROM, you get the option but it doesn't right off the bat obviously. So I found the Rogers wifi calling apk from the Evo 3D, found here.
Now when I get the app into /system/app, it force closes and nothing else, even if I rename it to WiFiCalling.apk, replacing the original t-mo one. With the standard t-mo one, I just get a ER:05 Invalid SIM which I think this is because it is trying to connect to t-mo servers.
Any way to get this working with the i727R with a combination of things from similar devices?
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I had it worked out on older ROM on my HTC sensation, you can chek out my post at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359107
the files that makes it work are coming from kineto package (one company that makes it works for all providers).
this is why all apk(s) for WiFi calling look the same but the one for T-mobile wont work for Rogers (invalid SIM error message, or force close)
Unfortunately as I've upgraded to ICS the older lib libhtc_ril.so is no longer working, so if you have access to EVO from Rogers with latest ROm we could make it work again
Hi, just got my Tmo One S. I have horrible coverage in my home so need to use wifi calling. Which roms have it working without issue? Preferably without Sense. Thanks!
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Hi, just got my Tmo One S. I have horrible coverage in my home so need to use wifi calling. Which roms have it working without issue? Preferably without Sense. Thanks!
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It only works on roms based on the TMOUS release, and they are all Sense-base. Of course, there are some TMOUS roms which have removed many of the HTC-Sense components in an attempt to get as close to stock as possible which is probably what you are looking for.
Hi, I have a question about my Samsung captivate that is unlocked and running CM9. I have a phone plan with tmobile, and was wondering if I could get the wifi calling feature that is on the vibrant on my captivate. I am comfortable with flashing custom roms and the like, so if I have to make some changes, that is fine.
In short, my question is “Can I get the wifi calling app that is available on the tmobile vibrant on my unlocked captivate running CM9”.
Thanks, Ben Finch
I'm going to assume you have an up to date SIM from T-Mobile. Some older cards that came out just about the time the vibrant did were incompatible with Wi-Fi calling, and required people to get new ones. So, if it doesn't work, that's a possibility.
I work in a phone store, got to see that action first hand.
As for Wi-Fi calling, you shouldn't have to hack unless you're running a stock Rom on the captivate that has unknown source installations (side loading) blocked by default. If that's the case, browse the stickies.
Wi-Fi calling, last I checked, was simply a regular apk. Check out the vibrant and galaxy s 4g forums, I'm sure it's posted there somewhere. I'm out of town and using my phone, otherwise I'd be able to extract it from my wife's g2 and post it. PM me if you don't find it there, I think I can get it from my desktop eventually.
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Ben F said:
Hi, I have a question about my Samsung captivate that is unlocked and running CM9. I have a phone plan with tmobile, and was wondering if I could get the wifi calling feature that is on the vibrant on my captivate. I am comfortable with flashing custom roms and the like, so if I have to make some changes, that is fine.
In short, my question is “Can I get the wifi calling app that is available on the tmobile vibrant on my unlocked captivate running CM9”.
Thanks, Ben Finch
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Hi Ben,
I'm having the same exact issue. Did you ever find a solution? If so, please advise. Both Samsung and T-Mobile reps say it's not possible to have Wi-Fi calling with Captivate. Seems there should be a way.
Anybody able to get that working? I think it is ROM based, so not an apk issue, and we may have to wait for Tmobile to release a rom no?
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Anybody able to get that working? I think it is ROM based, so not an apk issue, and we may have to wait for Tmobile to release a rom no?
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That won't happen (a T-Mobile ROM for the phone). T-Mobile's WiFi calling is based on a standard called IMS. There is test source code available, but no one has integrated it into AOSP (what CM is and most all other ROM's you'll find for this phone). This has been the case for years now and I doubt it'll change.
Not going to happen.
People are still begging for it on the Nexus 4, a year after launch.
Why not just use Google Voice?