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Who is waiting for Samsung P10 to be announced ?

Hopefully in a week or so Sammy announces this beast of tablet: 12" 2500x1600 display (give or take . Hoping they get something like 2GB RAM (a la SG3) along with a GPU that can hold its own against IPad domination.
For now I am keeping the 2 TF101s that I have, TF700 just doesn't look like much of an upgrade ... Jelly Bean (along with fixed IO) might change that, but I am going to wait for now.

rashid11 said:
Hopefully in a week or so Sammy announces this beast of tablet: 12" 2500x1600 display (give or take . Hoping they get something like 2GB RAM (a la SG3) along with a GPU that can hold its own against IPad domination.
For now I am keeping the 2 TF101s that I have, TF700 just doesn't look like much of an upgrade ... Jelly Bean (along with fixed IO) might change that, but I am going to wait for now.
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I/o is fixed with . 26 update. Very very pleased w my tf700 now. :laugh:

well samsung rolls out updates for their products like once a year
i thought i will wait for the rumored nexus 10 but decided to get this one, still have to wait 1 week oh my god, what can i do in this week?

I have a GS3 and I love it, but what i like even more is that Asus always updates their hardware...you dont have to wait 4 months for a OS update. I also have a G73JH which i totally love...asus are the boss

Every time I've tried using a display model Samsung tablet, I've been shocked at just how laggy things are. The resolution bump would also be barely noticable, on the TF700 you already cant see the pixels. If they do bump the ram to 2gb, with the nexus and almost every other HC/ICS tablet out being 1gb that means we're covered for quite some time app wise, even 512mb devices can still run plenty fluid.
So for me? No.

With very few 10in optomized apps around, other than basic web browsing and movie playing I really don't have a use for a 12 in android pad. Now win8 might be another story.
Plus Samsung still sucks at updates. We're jousting getting ics. They agreed to 18months of support, but at updates every 12 months they may have just promised a year.
So now I have to decide to go with asus' poor qc or crappy Samsung support. You can see why android hasn't taken over in tablets yet. Believe me, I love my android, I've got phones with verizon and sprint and 3 tablets. I won't bother with the other players yet.

No offense, but these threads are getting old. How many people do you really expect to find waiting in here? Most have already own or have immediate plans to. If you want to discuss a device vs device, and then start an appropriately named thread.
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2560x1600? No thanks. There's a reason I didn't get the ipad 3. Enjoy your 1080p upscaling or black box.
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;

It likely won't have a keyboard dock, which is something that once you, chances your entire experience with the tablet. It is why I likely won't buy tablets in the future that doesn't have one. I need productivity in my computing devices and the keyboard is a must to accomplish that. We may have gotten pretty far in our technology over the last several years, but it is going to be difficult to find something that can replace a keyboard.

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It likely won't have a keyboard dock, which is something that once you, chances your entire experience with the tablet. It is why I likely won't buy tablets in the future that doesn't have one. I need productivity in my computing devices and the keyboard is a must to accomplish that. We may have gotten pretty far in our technology over the last several years, but it is going to be difficult to find something that can replace a keyboard.
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Samsung's post product support is by far the worst. They can keep their 12 month updates. They do it on purpose, so you buy their next latest & greatest product. So he'll to the noooooooo!
Amen

jdeoxys said:
2560x1600? No thanks. There's a reason I didn't get the ipad 3. Enjoy your 1080p upscaling or black box.
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;
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i think you don't know how to divide 2560 by 1600

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i think you don't know how to divide 2560 by 1600
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I don't think you know what I'm talking about. 1920x1080 (industry standard) does not fit evenly into 2560x1600. You first have to upscale it to 2560x1440 (16:9 ratio). If you choose not to upscale it, you get a big black box around your video. If you choose to do so however, the pixels are distorted because it is not evenly at a 1:1 rate of pixels and is more around 3:2 which will cause some distortion. Obviously.

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I don't think you know what I'm talking about. 1920x1080 (industry standard) does not fit evenly into 2560x1600. You first have to upscale it to 2560x1440 (16:9 ratio). If you choose not to upscale it, you get a big black box around your video. If you choose to do so however, the pixels are distorted because it is not evenly at a 1:1 rate of pixels and is more around 3:2 which will cause some distortion. Obviously.
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but that's what happens to the infinity too. and i don't think you get the "black box", but you just get 2 "black bars" (top and bottom), also because of the status bar in android, i think you only see a bigger black bar on bottom (i could be wrong about this, but you have the infinity so you know what i mean)

nooktablet said:
but that's what happens to the infinity too. and i don't think you get the "black box", but you just get 2 "black bars" (top and bottom), also because of the status bar in android, i think you only see a bigger black bar on bottom (i could be wrong about this, but you have the infinity so you know what i mean)
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The Infinity doesn't upscale anything. It may leave a little room on the top and bottom because the resolution is slightly larger on the vertical, but a good amount of that is taken up by the Android status bar.

nooktablet said:
but that's what happens to the infinity too. and i don't think you get the "black box", but you just get 2 "black bars" (top and bottom), also because of the status bar in android, i think you only see a bigger black bar on bottom (i could be wrong about this, but you have the infinity so you know what i mean)
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His point is more about the distortion than the bars. There's very few tablets on the market that wont letterbox to some extent because Android targets 16:10 and iOS targets 4:3. On the Infinity, you'll have the bar on the bottom but you wont lose any clarity. The 2560x1600 display, however, would because it would have to stretch it to play it without letterboxing on the left and right.

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The Infinity doesn't upscale anything. It may leave a little room on the top and bottom because the resolution is slightly larger on the vertical, but a good amount of that is taken up by the Android status bar.
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yeah, that's what i meant,
2560x1600 = 16:10 aspect ratio (rumored samsung tablet)
1920x1200 = 16:10 aspect ratio (the infinity)
they both run android of course, so both have status bar, basically i mean the video viewing experience on the 2 tablets is the same (except for the high resolution 2560x1600 may make the video blurry, but about "video size" they look the same) while he said it will upscale or black box which i don't understand or maybe because i'm stupid

I enjoy using the KB dock with me TF101. The extra juice, the keys, the extra ports and I also have 64GB SD card in there.
As to the vendor ROM support , who cares much, most of us run custom ROMs anyway. I have GS2, a friend just got GS3, Sammy knows what they are doing.
As long as we get a nice JB start, we shall be off to the races.
And a whole lot of us are in the same boat - have the TF101 or 200 and are on the fence about 700's value, especially in the light of P10 and the gazillion of Win8 systems that will hit the market relatively soon.

nooktablet said:
yeah, that's what i meant,
2560x1600 = 16:10 aspect ratio (rumored samsung tablet)
1920x1200 = 16:10 aspect ratio (the infinity)
they both run android of course, so both have status bar, basically i mean the video viewing experience on the 2 tablets is the same (except for the high resolution 2560x1600 may make the video blurry, but about "video size" they look the same) while he said it will upscale or black box which i don't understand or maybe because i'm stupid
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Just google the word "upscaling" and you'll know what he means.
Movies look best on their native resolution.
The Infinity WON'T CHANGE the resolution but it will have 2 little bars.
The Sammy WILL CHANGE the resolution to 2560x1600 by upscaling, which results in a little blurry picture and will still have 2 little bars.
Try to use a non native resolution on your PC monitor for example. Turn it down a bit. You'll notice the blurryness )
Exactly the same happens on the Sammy tablet. It will get stretched or "upscaled".
But that's only interesting for movies etc.
Apps for the 1920 x1200 resolution are rare, don't expect apps running native 2560x1600
Just my opinion: I like some smartphones like the Galaxy Nexus (mostly because its native Android with early update guarantee) or the S3 (but please Samsung, get rid of stupid Touchwiz)
But on Tablets I prefer Asus, they have more updates, listen to the community and they don't spam the device with a stupid launcher that slows down the system.

I am eagerly awaiting this device. So damn bored with my iPad 3 which gets boiling hot after 5 minutes of Safari (forget games etc). Should go nicely with my Galaxy S3. Tempted to get the Transformer 1920x1200 but I think I'll wait for this

3473 said:
I am eagerly awaiting this device. So damn bored with my iPad 3 which gets boiling hot after 5 minutes of Safari (forget games etc). Should go nicely with my Galaxy S3. Tempted to get the Transformer 1920x1200 but I think I'll wait for this
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I'm sending back my TF700 and will wait on something else as I don't think the performance is up to par IMHO. Wait on the P10, maybe? I had the Galaxy P6810 7.7 Tab from Samsung and it was a pretty good tablet especially once JB came out. I just got the SGS 3 this past weekend and the phone performs great, as it should, even with ICS. My days of buying a sub performing device and waiting for the manufacturer to fix it later via updates is over. If it's a top dollar product and doesn't perform out of the box, forget it.

[Q] Why does my Galaxy SII appear to be faster than my Trasformer Infinity?

I like my new Asus Transformer Infinity, but not as much as I love my Samsung Galaxy sII. It bugs me that it appears that a lot of apps are much smoother/faster in loading data on the SII than on the Infinity, while the former is a year older with a slower CPU.
Does anyone has the same experience?
And what could be the cause?
On both devices I use almost the same apps, have the same accounts installed and i use the same wifi connection. My sII still uses ICS and my infinty JB (which in my opinion is much better then before), Both unrooted.
When I run the usual benchmarks (quadrant, antutu, browsermark), I get the scores you would expect: Infinity scores clearly higher than the SII and conform the results that other users report. Internet speed tests do also give expected results,
I'm experiencing the following. A lot of apps that load some data from the web (news apps for example) show a delay of 1 or 2 seconds, while the SII often loads the data instantly. Browsing on the SII gives me a smooth experience, while browsing on the Infinity often results in a couple of seconds that the tablet is unresponsive when the page is not loaded completely.
This effect is the strongest in the Stumbleupon app, which probably has an inferior browser built-in, but my SII still loads the new pages really fast. The infinity shows a lot of unresponsiveness in Stumbleupon and it results in a lot of ANR popups.
The ANR popups are not so prevalant in other apps. This did happen a lot more with ICS. On my SII I almost never get an ANR.
I understand that the tablet needs to render for a much higher resolution and that the tablet has some issues with IO performance. But can this make such a difference? Could it be that most apps are so terribly designed for tablets, that the tablet needs a lot of CPU time to upscale, which causes unresponiveness?
Or is it just my tablet?

gybema said:
I understand that the tablet needs to render for a much higher resolution and that the tablet has some issues with IO performance. But can this make such a difference?
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yes.

You are not alone. I also have a galaxy s2,and it's a lot faster than this tablet.

It is not that surprising. My Sensation also feel faster and more reliable than my Infinity, guess it is just right that the S2 is much faster. And yes, the resolution does matter a lot. Imagine running Skyrim or Crysis II a 1024x768 resolution versus at 1920x1080, the difference in frame rates will blow you away.

Yup,
Most games and apps are designed for phones not tablets.
Applications for phones driving that big 'ole 1920X1200 screen with a 12 core GPU just ain't going to respond the same as the junior sized screens at a much lower resolution.
Just wait when the apps catch on to the HD wave there will be many happy campers.
Takes time...

Asus uses a tegra and samsung uses exynos. The exynos/malli processor/GPU seems to perform much better than tegra despite that tegra is made by nvidia. on paper the GFLOPS and toals MADs produced by the Exynos is higher.
The screen also is a factor as FHD screen takes more time to push all the pixels on a 10.1 screen compared to a 4.3.
Architecture of chipset as well
Manufacture also plays a part. Their coding and software implementation to make the hardware and software work together. Samsung does better in this case. ASUS is always pushing updates.

Its not just the Infinity as this was the first thing I noticed when I got the Transformer Prime vs my S2. Does resolutions play a role? Maybe a bit more in the Infinity's case but the Prime and TF300 had resolutions that's not too far off from the Galaxy Nexus but the latter with 2 less cores sure did better than the Asus tablets.

Most of it is the cheap crappy internal memory Asus decided to use for their flagship device, some of it's the higher resolution.

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Most of it is the cheap crappy internal memory Asus decided to use for their flagship device, some of it's the higher resolution.
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My wife's apple ipad 3 with the high resolution runs smooth like a baby's butt. I could only wish my infinity ran that smooth. Since complaints aren't only coming from me now the proof is right here...this tablet was made without thinking. Basically Asus wanted a great tablet on paper to jump ahead of everyone, ON PAPER, but in reality it is a pretty bad device for such a large amount of money. Better off with a cheaper laptop with an SSD drive in it really.

Not to be funny, but my droid charge (2 years old, first samsung lte phone) is faster and smoother than tf700! Asus build a biggest giant cruise ship and forgot to plug a hole in the bottom of the ship!

As any gamer knows, higher resolution means more resources needed, which means a lower frames-per-second rate. It simply has to render more.
Your S2 has a resolution of 480 x 800, your TF700 a resolution of 1920x1280. In terms of resource difference between those two, it's pretty much the difference between running Minesweeper and running Skyrim.
Add to that the fact pretty much 99% of the apps are made for phones, and in most cases specifically the Galaxy series, and it's no surprise they run better on a small phone they're optimized for than on a large full HD tablet that most app-developers don't even consider.

ShadowLea said:
As any gamer knows, higher resolution means more resources needed, which means a lower frames-per-second rate. It simply has to render more.
Your S2 has a resolution of 480 x 800, your TF700 a resolution of 1920x1280. In terms of resource difference between those two, it's pretty much the difference between running Minesweeper and running Skyrim.
Add to that the fact pretty much 99% of the apps are made for phones, and in most cases specifically the Galaxy series, and it's no surprise they run better on a small phone they're optimized for than on a large full HD tablet that most app-developers don't even consider.
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The storage device is a piece of crap, there's nothing wrong with the graphics performance. Every single user experience issue with this tablet is down to data not getting read/written fast enough from/to storage. It's as simple as that.

Every application that uses "RAM" is subjective as fast as at my SGS2 (runnig CM9). But the i/o perfomance at stock ROM on my TF700 is really bad. With Browser2RAM surfing is a lot snapier but still not as snappy as at SGS2. Hopefully CM10 at TF700 works as much as possible around this storage issues.
Don't forget that the TF700T has the fastest RAM of all android devices that are on sale at the moment. But it has the slowest eMMC storage, too.

As far as the browser goes, use stock browser and if you are rooted, 1st look for app browser2ram and sideload it (and follow all instructions in thread dedicated to it), then (or for anyone else not rooted) type about:debug into browser address box, hit enter, then go to settings (three small vertcal dots in upper right hand corner of screen) and choose debug menu. Check the box next to Enable CPU Upload Pathand then close it. It speeds up the browser by a lot. I'm only using the stock browser now and I'm very satisfied with its performance.
The other suggestion I have for you that feel unhappy with the TF700's performance in general, is really consider unlocking, flashing a custom recovery (I highly recommend TWRP) and a rooted custom ROM, especially the CleanROM Ultra Light Edition v1.3. This JellyBean stock-based ROM is so fast and smooth and functional, you will wonder why you waited so long to have the device you had imagined. I kid you not. I've tried all the ROMs available for this device, and though they all have their strong points, for someone looking for a better than stock experience, where everything works, right now, this one's the best and it gets even better with each update. And this is just the beginning of wonderful development for the Infinity. This is honestly, a superb machine. We owe it to ourselves to take full advantage of it.

If you're running stock it's slow. If you optimise it it's pretty damn fast. Had mine lying next to an iPad 3 and they are on the same level. How to do it? Disable (a lot) of unneeded apps and use the right software (Firefox Aurora or the above mentioned Browser2Ram)

That's not much of a win considering the ipad 3 has a higher resolution with 2 less cpu cores and running 600mhz slower.

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The storage device is a piece of crap, there's nothing wrong with the graphics performance. Every single user experience issue with this tablet is down to data not getting read/written fast enough from/to storage. It's as simple as that.
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Yup. This. The screen is a minor thing. If the ASUS engineers had not selected subpar parts for the internal SD, this thing would have absolute bleeding edge performance on every front. As it is, it often shows signs of brilliance but also has some limitations due to the system bottleneck. Your impression of the device user experience will depend heavily on your use model (and its associated memory footprint). The vast majority of issues/discussions wrt to this device basically come down to this one thing.
Barring some very serious OS hacking (ala the effort to allow external SD to replace internal) all the TF tabs will ALWAYS be limited by memory bandwidth. It's a hardware limitation. Either you can live with it or you can't. Too bad. Now that JB is here and the OS is finally decent/stable, this tab is one bad cost cutting measure away from being the undisputed best in class device in the industry. <shrug>
I'm not browsing very frequently and when I do, they are not heavy multimedia sites, so for me, the TF's certainly a really good user experience and I love the device. Games are great now that the driver bug is fixed for example. It's slightly frustrating knowing that the tab could have been amazing on EVERY front if they had spent another fifty cents on the memory... but that's life. I'll be happy if they just continue to support/stabilize/enhance the firmware. The hardware is what it is.

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That's not much of a win considering the ipad 3 has a higher resolution with 2 less cpu cores and running 600mhz slower.
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Well, I understand that the gpu is better and the whole ios thing is completely optimised for browsing, so yeah, it is kind of a good comparison in terms of user experience.

This!!!
My HTC Evo 4g LTE has more consistent performance than my TF700T....
It's kind of frustrating really and the fact that my daughter's ipad is ALWAYS smooth bothers the hell out of me...
Is this the way these things are designed or do I have a lemon on my hands?
The fact that there are articles instructing people that they can buy a $30 SD card and move their /data mount to the external micro SD card tells me this is a design issue...
There's nothing more frustrating than tapping the screen and not being able to tell if you mis tapped or if the tablet is IO locked and in a 'wait' state. and it happens way too damned much.
I'm not doing anything special.... all I can say is that I'm running a lot of apps and perhaps this is the problem (I've restricted background process to 4 and disabling all animations and am now using APEX launcher to even disable all animations + the wallpaper).
Max free RAM at any time is around ~250 MB...
I want to show this thing off but everytime I pull it out it's performing like **** and cache cleaning or rebooting doen't seem to help either...
Also to add - post JB I DID perform a factory reset as well. I've installed about 130 apps.
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Just curious, how does tf700 compare to other android tablets? Is it a a lot slower or less smooth? It one thing to compare it to phones. I want to know how it compares to a Samsung note 10.1.

tf700 w/ Jelly bean VS Note 10.1

Hi, all,
I may return the tf700 (bad LCD, a few spots (not pixels) brighter when all white) to BB.
I have tf700 OTA to Jelly bean latest, and I do notice some lag when opening stock browser, sometimes transitioning between apps etc.
I read many reviews comparing the two, but most before the latest OTAs arrived on tf700. I really wonder with all the recent OTAs, how does the tf700 score with the Note 10.1 tablet?
In the old days (aug/sep), note 10.1 felt better with smoothness because of the hardware I suppose? Is that advantage still presenting itself after tf700 moved to Jelly Bean? How good/bad is battery life between the two now?
Thanks!
P.S. I think Deusdies was in a similar situation before, but that was a couple months ago.

The 10.1 Note is known to be smoother due to it not having a full HD screen.
So if you can live with lower resolution you may find the note smoother out of the box.
However, the TF700 offers other opportunities; Keyboard Dock, battery life, much better screen, USB ports, very quick once unlocked and rooted, etc

sbdags said:
The 10.1 Note is known to be smoother due to it not having a full HD screen.
So if you can live with lower resolution you may find the note smoother out of the box.
However, the TF700 offers other opportunities; Keyboard Dock, battery life, much better screen, USB ports, very quick once unlocked and rooted, etc
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The low res is probably ok, but I kind of hate to leave TF700 as the less bright Note 10.1 will almost certainly struggle when reading needs to be done with signficant reflections. So I would either carefully check the TF700 hoping to find a good piece (without screen installation problem/etc, but have to bare with i/o freezing...), or just go with Note with suboptimal screen brightness ....

Try Nexus 10? My sister has 10.1 and after using Nexus 7 I really notice pixels on Note. It's not terrible, but you will probably notice it even more than I will. I suppose it takes time to adjust from higher to lower PPI. Nexus 10 however has 300 PPI and is probably the top 10 incher out there, not sure.
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I have done a lot of research on the tf700t and will have to say its better built and more durable than Samsung galaxy note.

Tablet choices

So I have had my eye on the TF300 and even purchased one and took it back once finding out about the i/o issues but still cant get over the look and feel it offered and even more so now at it's current low pricing. I'm currently looking at tablets in the $250-300 price range including the TF300/Memo variant (any version offer a fix on i/o?), Acer A700(get screen just TFT with low backlight quality from what I have seen--would a rom help? Also slow DDR2 ram...does this have much affect?), Galaxy Note 10.1 refurb(I have Note 2 and could picture a 10.1" version being great) and even the Galaxy Tab 2 for it's thiness but performance has said to be greatly lacking? I plan to run mostly web browser and netflix/hulu but I do game sometimes including vice city/modern combat.
I'm kinda weird about crispness during scrolling/smoothness and I also prefer GPU performance to be decent/good but things I don't mind are heat and thickness although I did love the TF300's thin feel but it is not a must if other things can outweigh the negatives.
I feel as if the iPad 3 is my best choice even though the GPU is lacking since I know modern combat ran well when I tried friends who asked me to JB but the price is hard to justify being the cheapest I can find is $360-370 but the screen is awesome and iOS is super smooth. I also prefer iOS due to them having amazon prime streaming...dont ask me why they are still not giving it to us android people IMO it's not going to force me into one of their tablets.
Appreciate any advice, thanks!

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Is there anything better than the Note Pro 12.2 (Verizon LTE)?

I am starting to fall out of love with my tablet. I bought it shortly after launch after seeing it on display while my wife was looking at an Apple tablet. The display blew me away, and the specs were awesome... two + years ago.
The problem that I'm running into, and from my research many others are too, is that there really isn't an "upgrade" to the note pro. I might be willing to go down to a 10" screen, but I like the size. The Pixel C seems like the specs aren't up to what I have now.
So I thought I'd come here and seek the advice of people using the Note Pro 12.2 - what are you considering upgrading to?

I just bought a refurbished one off eBay to replace my original one which has a cracked screen (but still working.) I kept waiting for something new to come out, but finally gave up for now. The finally straw was Samsung coming out with a 12" Windows tablet, but no Android version.

There's nothing spectacular out there on the tablet market to begin with anyways. For now I'm satisfied with my Note Pro. I'd jump on a Surface Pro 4 if handwritten note taking on it were as good as it is with LectureNotes but nothing else comes close.

Thanks, I guess I'll just have to wait and hope for the best to come out. I too was very disappointed to see the windows version come out.

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I am starting to fall out of love with my tablet. I bought it shortly after launch after seeing it on display while my wife was looking at an Apple tablet. The display blew me away, and the specs were awesome... two + years ago.
The problem that I'm running into, and from my research many others are too, is that there really isn't an "upgrade" to the note pro. I might be willing to go down to a 10" screen, but I like the size. The Pixel C seems like the specs aren't up to what I have now.
So I thought I'd come here and seek the advice of people using the Note Pro 12.2 - what are you considering upgrading to?
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You can get MM on your devices through CM13. But if you have the Verizon variant you get at least LP 5.1.1. http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/56136/P905VVRUBOH1_P905VVZWBOH1_VZW/

I have read a lot about MM, and the battery saving you can get from it, also some claim spotted improvements, but I was just waiting for someone else to take the plunge on the Verizon version!
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You can get MM on your devices through CM13. But if you have the Verizon variant you get at least LP 5.1.1. http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/56136/P905VVRUBOH1_P905VVZWBOH1_VZW/
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BillVanDusen said:
I am starting to fall out of love with my tablet. I bought it shortly after launch after seeing it on display while my wife was looking at an Apple tablet. The display blew me away, and the specs were awesome... two + years ago.
The problem that I'm running into, and from my research many others are too, is that there really isn't an "upgrade" to the note pro. I might be willing to go down to a 10" screen, but I like the size. The Pixel C seems like the specs aren't up to what I have now.
So I thought I'd come here and seek the advice of people using the Note Pro 12.2 - what are you considering upgrading to?
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I've seen pretty much the same myself.
The only options with roughly the same form factor with reasonably close or better specs are the ipad pro and surface pro but neither one is an android tablet.
Really the only option for a true upgrade is to drop to a 10 inch tablet.
The Pixcel C is better specs-wise by quite a large margin in the processor and graphics department and at least equal in most other areas.
The things holding me back there are Screen size (10.2 inch), Aspect ratio (4:3) and from what I've read there are a some software/driver issues (This is likely to be fixed pretty quickly by google for what its worth)
In comparison the Galaxy note has a 12.2 inch screen, a 16:10 aspect ratio and against popular opinion, I'm pretty fond of the extra features in touchwiz.
but if you can deal with the smaller screen and 4:3 aspect ratio the pixel C is really the only solid upgrade I've found.
for me I decided I'm sticking with this tablet for the foreseeable future, its great with the right peripherals and gets everything I need done and the snapdragon 800 keeps up pretty well at this point.

Not really.
I had hopes for the 18.4" Galaxy View, but that turned out to be a bigger joke than an iPad.
(No, seriously, it has a 1080p res on an 18" screen, 5700 mAh, 2GB RAM and a 1.6 GHz CPU. Useless.)
The Surface Pro 4 sounded very interesting at first, when the rumours mentioned an Nvidia GPU. Turns out is has an IntelHD, which means I can't use it properly and thus isn't worth the money. If I have to spend 2000 quid on a "laptop replacement" tablet, I bloody well want to be able to run Mass Effect 3 on it. It has all the specs to run it, except for that horrendously massive bottleneck of a GPU.
Ipad... No, just no.
Everything else either has a low resolution, too small a screen, too low RAM, too low CPU or a ****ty GPU. And no Spen. (And yes, as a designer I use that pen. A lot. Hell, you can even use it as a Wacom tablet for your PC with a simple app.)
So no, nothing worth upgrading to.

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Really the only option for a true upgrade is to drop to a 10 inch tablet.
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The other problem (other then drop in size) I had with that is almost all the tablets are dropping LTE. I really like the flexibility that LTE provides when traveling - using in a car, avoiding hotel wifi charges or slow speed, etc.

Thank you everyone for your responses. It seems that you have all confirmed my fears: that besides the Pixel, which doesn't have the s-pen, I am just going to have to live with what I have for now.