I have a 1GB RAM + 4GB ROM phone, and I added a 16GB sd card. I heard the backup/recovery cannot include the sd card. So that means all programs should be installed in the internal space and phone space, which is where that 4GB ROM is. 4GB seems not enough then.
I know may people move apps from internal space and phone space to sd card. If we cannot backup/recovery the sd card, how can we restore to the original state when something bad happened?
How do you manage your space of your phone?
I think some ' file manager ' from Google play store will help you
To be honest I store all my backups on my SD card using astro file manager then move them I us titanium backup to then create a update zip file just in case ever other week, then on top of that I sending all backups and update zip file to dropbox so I have easy access anywhere I go.. reason for the backups on dropbox is I always have a friend looking for an old copy a program
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so its my understanding that when you use apps 2 sd it stores them in the android secure file on my sd . now if thats wrong all together then what exactly is that folder for ? is it my titanium backup files ? Anyway my question is if im not relying on my apps to sd back up anymore i.e all of my apps are on my internal hard drive and the apk files exist in another folder on the sd card can i get rid of those files in the adroid secure folder on my sd card ? its taking up 7.5 gb of my 8 gb sd card so i have no room to add anything and half of the apps in there i already uninstlled from my phone but yet they still are taking up all the room on my sd card....
delete all third party apps.. except those present in the stock rom
Just delete the folder. I would back it up first, just in case. If all of your apps are on internal storage, you should be fine.
If that doesn't work, move everything on your SD card to your computer and format the card. Then move whatever you need back to the card.
I have partitioned my sd card in ext. format for more space. And have the internal memory full but there is still a lot of space on the sd card ext. Partition for apps. I just want to move the apps from internal memory to this partition so that my apps work fine and i have my internal memory with free space.
The problem might seem easy to solve. Just by deleting or moving apps from internal memory, but for me its complicated because i don't know which apps are stored on the internal memory and the sd card partition for a2sd... In the apps storage all the apps are shown together without showing which is on the sd ext. partition and which on phone's internal memory. i don't know to move the apps from phone memory to sd card partitioned memory. Any help is appreciated
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Either do as suggested above, or download ROM Toolbox and under App Manager, you can move apps to the SD card and set applications as system apps aswell.
''Evil corrupts the mind of the weak but fails to feed off the mind of the strong''
I tried them but my prob is i need to delete or move apps from internal memory... And when i delete any app there is more space freed on sd ext not internal memory. I need to know which apps are stored on the internal memory. Which i can't seem to know
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hi, im Geoff.
recently after flashing the stock 4.0.3 ICS firmware, flashing a old bootloader and using my own USB Jig and resetting
the flash counter for kernels, i finally flashed JellyBean 4.1.2 Original Firmware from Samsung. my mobile is Galaxy S2 i9100.
my problem is i recently bought a 16GB micro sd card and inserted it into my phone before i could install any app onto my phone.
then i installed few apps and games from the Google Play Store. then i noticed the external sd card have about 120 mb of used
memory. but i only had about 20 mb of data that i copied onto it that were certain zip files and nothing else. i noticed that when i install
any app, then go to applications and move to SD Card option [which previously copied apps to the internal SD Card/USB storage],
is now actually moving the apps to the External SD Card. So if I unmount the external SD Card or remove it, none of my installed apps appear.
My external SD Card is meant for songs and movies. I want my internal SD Card to store all my apps so that i can remove my External
SD Card when ever i want to and swap it or not use it at all.
I also removed the external SD Card and then installed a new app, then use the move app to SD Card option. I got a error message,
saying something like insufficient memory/space.
my doubt is, apps are trying to be moved to the internal sd card but because they cannot be moved, they are being copied to the
external sd card.
any help is appretiated. btw i have rooted my phone by doing the temporary update of CWM from the stock recovery using the update from
external card method. then i also installed SuperSU. so its rooted and i didn't have to flash a kernel to root.
[update] im gonna provide some new info here:
I have a Android folder in my Internal SD Card [sdcard0]
and ".android_secure" in my External SD Card [extSdCard]
/mnt contains
asec [software files stored on the internal memory/ not internal SD Card or sdcard0]
obb [empty]
secure/asec [software moved using move to sdcard option. these files get copied to the extSdCard and not the sdcard0]
.lfs
and the sdcard and extSdCard links.
If I remove my External SD Card and try to move apps to the Internal SD Card using the move to sdcard button in application settings,
I get the insufficient memory error.
Also when I use the move to SD Card button in Application Settings, it shows the file being moved to the USB Storage [which is supposed to be
the internal sd card or sdcard0], yet it actually is being copied into my external SD Card or extSdCard.
What apps/games?
A lot of app data is stored on SD card, whether the core files and executable are on the internal or not, so that may just be cache stuff etc... One way to check is to remove the SD card then try to run whichever apps, I am willing to bet they still run.
orangekid said:
What apps/games?
A lot of app data is stored on SD card, whether the core files and executable are on the internal or not, so that may just be cache stuff etc... One way to check is to remove the SD card then try to run whichever apps, I am willing to bet they still run.
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i use the move to sd card for most apps/games. apart from 1-2 apps that dont have that option, about 10 apps+games have the option to be moved to the SD Card. And i used that option. But I am positive they got copied to the External SD Card because after I remove the
External SD Card, all the apps disappear.
Also when i then try installing new apps to the phone and then try to move them again [without the external sd card in its slot],
i get the error message of insufficient space/memory.[i have 8GB+ empty space in the internal SD Card]
its really annoying me
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i use the move to sd card for most apps/games. apart from 1-2 apps that dont have that option, about 10 apps+games have the option to be moved to the SD Card. And i used that option. But I am positive they got copied to the External SD Card because after I remove the
External SD Card, all the apps disappear.
Also when i then try installing new apps to the phone and then try to move them again [without the external sd card in its slot],
i get the error message of insufficient space/memory.[i have 8GB+ empty space in the internal SD Card]
its really annoying me
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Sounds like you have an option enabled in app settings to install all to SD, check your app settings in system settings.
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Sounds like you have an option enabled in app settings to install all to SD, check your app settings in system settings.
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I have gone through everything in settings. I cant find any option where I can actually select weather to install all to SD.
I appretiate you trying to help me out. I hope i find a solution to this problem.
Initailly I felt that it cound be some code causing the apps to move to the external sd card instead of the internal one. But after I got
the error message that I have insufficient space [with the external sd card removed ], even tho I have plenty of space, about 8GB+,
on the internal sd card...so I dont think this is due to any code somewhere pointing to install into the external SD card.
I read somewhere that when the internal sd card is full and no more apps can be installed, the new apps go to the external sd card by default.
Something like that is happening to me, except my internal sd card is fine.
I updated my first post with more info to help diagnose and solve the problem. ty to all trying to help me.
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I would back up the stuff you want from SD and from your ROM (to your computer), then go to recovery, full wipe + cache + dalvik, then format external SD, then reboot into system, then restore what you want.
orangekid said:
I would back up the stuff you want from SD and from your ROM (to your computer), then go to recovery, full wipe + cache + dalvik, then format external SD, then reboot into system, then restore what you want.
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hey man ty for not giving up on me ive not been well and then got so busy recently....
i did what you asked. i even accidently wiped the system folder from cwm recovery. it went into a boot loop or whatever it is called.
i re-flashed the official samsung jellybean firmware 4.1.2 on my i9100. then again cleant delvic + cache +used data. yet the problem
persists.
i noticed that the android folder is being created in the internal sd card. but that android folder has very small amount of the app
files stored on it. the major chunk is in android_secure which is only being stord on the external sdcard.
when i go to mnt folder in root i see two folders named asec and secure.
1."asec" contains apps stored on internal memory [not internal sd card]
and 2. "secure" contains a "asec" folder which stores app stored on the external sdcard.
i believe somewhere the code which should point the android_secure folder to the internal sdcard is pointing to store apps on the
external sd card. perhaps you guys can show me how i can change the folder path of android secure. then it will behave like
default, the way is was meant to behave.
You might need to repartition your system.
I'll see else we can come up with later today, in the mean time, try to maybe use TWRP instead and a different ROM
little more info
orangekid said:
You might need to repartition your system.
I'll see else we can come up with later today, in the mean time, try to maybe use TWRP instead and a different ROM
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when i click move to sdcard in the application settings/menu, it shows USB data filling up.
that USB data is supposed to be my USB drive or my Internal SD Card. And the external sdcard shows up
as 0 KB of data. But actually the files are being copied to the external sdcard and not internal.
now if we think the android system cannot access the internal sdcard, then thats not the matter because
it creates a folder named Android in the internal sdcard and stores the app cache there.
So to me it seems that the android system is confused and actually thinks that the android_secure folder is
mounted on the internal sdcard while it actually is mounted on the external sdcard.
perhaps anyone can link me a guide to move my android_secure folder...
TitanHack said:
perhaps anyone can link me a guide to move my android_secure folder...
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Facing this problem now.
TitanHack, did you found an answer?
Hey , I am using custom rom (Jaggy Rom) on my HTC explorer, its working perfectly. I am using 2GB card, but where is my 512 mb gone i mean , apps are automatically installed in SD-card but in FAT partition, so question is what is ext-4 partition for? Where it is used?
And 2ndly i am also planning to change my sd-card from 2gb to 4gb, can u help plz. Thanx
if you have created a partition in the SD card you need to use a memory increasing script like Mount2SD or Ungaze...when you install this script the 512MB of the ext-4 partition will show up as your phone's internal memory.
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if you have created a partition in the SD card you need to use a memory increasing script like Mount2SD or Ungaze...when you install this script the 512MB of the ext-4 partition will show up as your phone's internal memory.
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Thanks for reply, mount2SD is preinstalled in jaggyrom 4.1, and will you help me on changing my SD card?
and how can i confirm if apps are installing on SD card. Mount2SD is installed, and i think script is working , because my phone is showing constant internal memory on installing apps (i.e about 160 mb even if i install apps or uninstall them)
changing your SD card as in? what are you asking,please be clear...
and in Mount2SD it usually shows the partition memory added up in the internal memory.I haven't installed Jaggyrom anytime but i have used Mount2SD and it always showed me the partition memory as a part of my internal memory....so not sure what's wrong.
Download disk usage app from play store..it will show how much memory is used in your SD card as well as your internal memory..just so you will get a clear idea
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changing your SD card as in? what are you asking,please be clear...
and in Mount2SD it usually shows the partition memory added up in the internal memory.I haven't installed Jaggyrom anytime but i have used Mount2SD and it always showed me the partition memory as a part of my internal memory....so not sure what's wrong.
Download disk usage app from play store..it will show how much memory is used in your SD card as well as your internal memory..just so you will get a clear idea
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Changing my SD cards mean i want to switch the card, i m using 2gb currently and i want to replace with 4gb or 8gb
If you want to replace it make sure you buy a class 10 SD card..because most of people using sense based ROM are experiencing random reboots with class 4 SD cards...class 10 SD cards are much faster while transfering files...I would recommend 8GB class 10 SD card.
Alright but i have installed custom rom. When i take out my card from phone it dosn't works, and i want to copy previous sd-ext partition data to new card can u help how can i
I don't think so that any of the CWM or TWRP recovery supports the back-up of SD-ext..I would rather recommend you to use Titanium back-up to create back-up of all your current apps and than transfer the titanium back-up folder in your SD-card to your PC/laptop and than insert your new SD card and paste that titanium back-up folder which contains the back of all your apps (including apps in SD-ext) and download the titanium back-up app via play store and restore those apps.
Well thanx, What if i clone/copy my old ext partition to my new card's ext partition?
I don't think that will work. the best option you have is to make a titanium backup. if you don't wanna do that then save your sd card data ( data in fat 32 partition) and paste that in your new card. it will save you game progress, but titanium backup is the best way to go.
Well, that means i have to make a titanium backup and thn again install the custom rom i wil lose my settings
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The phone only has 1.5GB of internal SD card and
expects you to add your own external SD card.
Which is fine except just about everything favours
using the small internal card instead of the large
external one. The android folder where the obb
files go, .android_secure where apps moved to sd
go, external data downloads for apps. So 1.5GB
won't last you long!
You can however swap which card Android thinks is
the internal and external. So mine now thinks it
has 32GB of internal SD space and 1.5GB external
and uses the 32GB for everything.
To do this, first of all you need root.
Then download this file: http://blade.windows98.co.uk/downloads/vold.emmc.fstab
(right click the
link and use 'save as')
Copy it to your phones SD card
Now using a root file explorer go to /system/etc and
rename the file vold.emmc.fstab as a backup in case
you ever want to revert this swap
Using your file explorer, copy or move the file from
your sd card into /system/etc
Reboot and enjoy :laugh::good:
File copy?
If this works what about system files? Do you need to copy all internal files to external first before swapping?
If so what app will allow you permissions to do so?
siva aggzz said:
The phone only has 1.5GB of internal SD card and
expects you to add your own external SD card.
Which is fine except just about everything favours
using the small internal card instead of the large
external one. The android folder where the obb
files go, .android_secure where apps moved to sd
go, external data downloads for apps. So 1.5GB
won't last you long!
You can however swap which card Android thinks is
the internal and external. So mine now thinks it
has 32GB of internal SD space and 1.5GB external
and uses the 32GB for everything.
To do this, first of all you need root.
Then download this file: http://blade.windows98.co.uk/downloads/vold.emmc.fstab
(right click the
link and use 'save as')
Copy it to your phones SD card
Now using a root file explorer go to /system/etc and
rename the file vold.emmc.fstab as a backup in case
you ever want to revert this swap
Using your file explorer, copy or move the file from
your sd card into /system/etc
Reboot and enjoy :laugh::good:
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