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Hi all,
Check this out
https://play.google.com/store
Soo... this is the Android Market with a new name (removing "Android") that is meant to be used on all devices, with Android Apps being 3rd in the list of things you can buy. Oh, and they have an iOS app now to slowly siphon their users once they buy stuff.
Also, does anyone know what tablet this is?
https://play.google.com/about/images/features-5-1.png
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Hi all,
Check this out
https://play.google.com/store
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Im not sure about this Google Play? I dont really get it.. They changed the name of Google Music..How will it take over Market?
jager420 said:
Im not sure about this Google Play? I dont really get it.. They changed the name of Google Music..How will it take over Market?
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Google on Tuesday introduced Google Play, a cloud-based service formed from the merger of Android Market, Google Music, and Google eBookstore. It's Google's take on Apple's iTunes Store, with a dash of iCloud.
More details:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/development/mobility/232602115
Just got it.
Edit: I haven't been able to upload my screenshots through the app, have to go on pc
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Google on Tuesday introduced Google Play, a cloud-based service formed from the merger of Android Market, Google Music, and Google eBookstore. It's Google's take on Apple's iTunes Store, with a dash of iCloud.
More details:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/development/mobility/232602115
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I read the article and TBH I still dont get it. Nothing new that I didn't know. Does Google want more people to know about its Market features? I really just dont get what they merged? The market looks the same on my phone as it did before. The market via pc browser didnt change either, so I dont know what the big fuss is.. If someone can explain so my retarded ass gets it that would be much appreciated..
jager420 said:
I read the article and TBH I still dont get it. Nothing new that I didn't know. Does Google want more people to know about its Market features? I really just dont get what they merged? The market looks the same on my phone as it did before. The market via pc browser didnt change either, so I dont know what the big fuss is.. If someone can explain so my retarded ass gets it that would be much appreciated..
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OK, I'm going to give this a shot:
1. "The unified store as an effort to eliminate the hassle of moving files between computers and syncing devices."
2. "Google Play is entirely cloud-based so all your music, movies, books, and apps are stored online, always available to you, and you never have to worry about losing them or moving them again,"
3. Compete with Itune store.
4. The interface maybe similar to Market, but the way they store their content and how you retrieve them and the anywhere/anyplace availability is the key.
Example1 for item 1: You have 1000 songs store on your SD card and you back them up in your PC. 2 days later you down load 20 more songs from the Market but using your PC, now you need to sync these songs to your phone. Nope, not with Google play, all your songs are stored online, you can sync these songs directly to your phone.(eliminate the hassle of moving files between computers and syncing devices.
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OK, I'm going to give this a shot:
2. "Google Play is entirely cloud-based so all your music, movies, books, and apps are stored online, always available to you, and you never have to worry about losing them or moving them again,"
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My music was cloud based. I dont know about movies or books because I never bought so I couldnt tell you. It just seems to me that they are highlighting features that have always been there..
jager420 said:
My music was cloud based. I dont know about movies or books because I never bought so I couldnt tell you. It just seems to me that they are highlighting features that have always been there..
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That's the whole idea, it will work for everyone. In your case only music cloud base, other people may have movies or books or what ever. With Google play, it's one place cloud storage. How about other items that I listed??
Hindle1225 said:
Just got it.
Edit: I haven't been able to upload my screenshots through the app, have to go on pc
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NICE! I know most of ppl think this is stupid but I think Google is making a right move. But if they don't keep up, they will fall behind and so is their business.
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NICE! I know most of ppl think this is stupid but I think Google is making a right move. But if they don't keep up, they will fall behind and so is their business.
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Google is continuing they're progression. Setting themselves up to be the future one stop shop for communication and entertainment.
I like to watch it unfold but I don't care for how invasive Google will eventually be with our information. In Europe you can send Google a letter asking them for all your history with Google services. One gentleman had 15,000 pages sent to him from Google. Google isn't legally obligated to do so in the US.
I'm done rambling now
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if your phone is rooted, it will not allow you to rent movies straight to your phone. I was able to get it start playing when I put the browser into desktop mode on the link it posts, but it just keeps loading. Anyone have any suggestions?
If you are rooted, DO NOT USE GOOGLE PLAY MOVIES.
Google does not allow movies to play on rooted phones, citing licensing issues (though I'm not really sure what having root access has to do with pirating movies).
If you have bought or rented a movie that you haven't watched yet, you can submit a support ticket requesting a refund. I got my refund within a few hours of complaining, so at least they're good about that.
In protest, I will no longer be making any music, movie, or book purchases from Google. I also changed all my privacy settings for my Google account to be least beneficial to Google (ie: no customized ads, etc). I'd like to see all root users that are pissed off by this move do the same. It seems perhaps Google doesn't realize just how many of us there are.
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If you are rooted, DO NOT USE GOOGLE PLAY MOVIES.
Google does not allow movies to play on rooted phones, citing licensing issues (though I'm not really sure what having root access has to do with pirating movies).
If you have bought or rented a movie that you haven't watched yet, you can submit a support ticket requesting a refund. I got my refund within a few hours of complaining, so at least they're good about that.
In protest, I will no longer be making any music, movie, or book purchases from Google. I also changed all my privacy settings for my Google account to be least beneficial to Google (ie: no customized ads, etc). I'd like to see all root users that are pissed off by this move do the same. It seems perhaps Google doesn't realize just how many of us there are.
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...you buy your media?
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If you are rooted, DO NOT USE GOOGLE PLAY MOVIES.
Google does not allow movies to play on rooted phones, citing licensing issues (though I'm not really sure what having root access has to do with pirating movies).
If you have bought or rented a movie that you haven't watched yet, you can submit a support ticket requesting a refund. I got my refund within a few hours of complaining, so at least they're good about that.
In protest, I will no longer be making any music, movie, or book purchases from Google. I also changed all my privacy settings for my Google account to be least beneficial to Google (ie: no customized ads, etc). I'd like to see all root users that are pissed off by this move do the same. It seems perhaps Google doesn't realize just how many of us there are.
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That's been the case since Google allowed movie renting on their store. Honestly, I don't think it's Google's choice. The movie studios probably have a strong voice when it came to this choice. I'm guessing the movie studios believe that if you're rooted, it'd be easier to get passed the DRM they put in place.
I honestly don't care since I don't watch movies from the Play Store. The majority of Android users most likely never root their phones, thus they don't "lose out" on this option.
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my nook color has a rooted sd card which has unlocked my 'reader' to so much more. Google Play marks most applications as incompatible, how can I change to something that Google play see as compatible? Other markets will load apps which work, but lately many apps are only available from Google Play. Suggestions anyone?
myhilo said:
my nook color has a rooted sd card which has unlocked my 'reader' to so much more. Google Play marks most applications as incompatible, how can I change to something that Google play see as compatible? Other markets will load apps which work, but lately many apps are only available from Google Play. Suggestions anyone?
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This is the Droid Charge forum. The Nook Color forum would be a much better place to ask that question.
I like how Google Play just introduced its first physical product, the GSM Galaxy Nexus. $400 out of contract. Damn.
I paid $300 for the Charge and it isn't even listed on the software update slides leaked recently. I hope Google goes with another company instead of Samsung for their next Nexus phone.
As for the Charge, I still like it, but wish I could add ram and a bigger flashdisk to it.
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I like how Google Play just introduced its first physical product, the GSM Galaxy Nexus. $400 out of contract. Damn.
I paid $300 for the Charge and it isn't even listed on the software update slides leaked recently. I hope Google goes with another company instead of Samsung for their next Nexus phone.
As for the Charge, I still like it, but wish I could add ram and a bigger flashdisk to it.
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I heard moto might come up with the next google phone, not sure if will keep the nexus name.
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So long as I can get a version using Verizon's unlimited LTE plan, SOLD!
Hi all,
I had a few apps on the Play Store some months ago, which got removed after Google decided to ban me from the Play Store for who knows what reason. Apparently the cause was the "sexy" nature of the apps, which still doesn't explain why my app got kicked out and so many apps that are much worse than mine still live there.
Well, anyway, I've decided to put them all back online on a website for users to download, so if you're interested in them feel free to download them and give me some feedback! All the apps have a brief descriptions and screenshots:
drfeelgoodsw . appspot . com (sorry, being a newbie no link allowed...)
They're all apps to quickly access galleries of well known sexy and gossip websites (Front Magazine, The Sun Page 3, Egotastic and so on), and they all allow you to mark those galleries as favourites, save them on your SD card, etc. Nothing fancy but I hope you'll enjoy them nevertheless! If you have any suggestion on how to improve them, or just know some other website you'd like a similar app to be made for, I'd love to hear it from you
They must have been deleted again because nothing comes up in a search for them
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They must have been deleted again because nothing comes up in a search for them
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Sorry, I should have been clearer... by "back online" I actually meant they were available again on the web page I created for the purpose, not on the Play Store. I tried publishing them on Android PIT after they were removed from the Play Store, but that only lasted a few weeks, as apparently Android PIT only hosts apps that are also on the Play Store (quite silly of them, considering they're supposed to be an alternative market, but anyway...). I'm looking for other markets to publish the apps on, but until then the apps are available for download on the page I linked in my previous post. Those apps automatically look for updates using a JSON string on the same page, so updates should be easy to keep track of even without a Market in place.
No feedback? Either the apps are perfect the way they are, or they really suck!!
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No feedback? Either the apps are perfect the way they are, or they really suck!!
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Also, I suspect that people are getting a bit wary of sideloading apks when they could be malware. That's unfortunately a level of trust you lost when you were banned from the play store.
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Also, I suspect that people are getting a bit wary of sideloading apks when they could be malware. That's unfortunately a level of trust you lost when you were banned from the play store.
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Oh, I hadn't thought about that...
Well, if that can help, I can post a screenshot of the mail from Google describing their exact reason why I got banned, which had nothing to do with malicious behaviour in my app. That said, anyone can just monitor the traffic my app generates, and see that, apart from an update check at the beginning (a GET to retrieve a JSON file), the only connections are towards the website each app is wrapping. I would be quite dumb to post malicious apps on an expert den of Androiders like XDA Developers anyway ehehe
Anyway, if that can help I ca post the complete source code of one of the apps to let people check that everything's fine. The core of the apps is mostly the same (activities, sqlite database, image cache, httpclient+jsoup), apart from differences related to their structure (e.g., Page3 has much more activities and choices than GQ), so that should help understand I'm not hijacking anything. Of course, you could object there is no guarantee the code I'm posting is exactly the one used to generate the APKs, as we'd be back to the trust issue at the beginning...
Well, if there's any way I convince those in doubt that I'm in good faith just let me know. About the Play Store, unfortunately there's no way I can get back there. In the mail I received, I was told I was banned and that I could not open a new account to publish the apps again, so that's out of the question. Android PIT only accepts apps that already are on the store, so no go either. I tried other markets like Androlib and SlideMe, but both failed to send me the confirmation mails I needed to confirm the account, so I'm wondering if they're even a viable solution for developers right now. I've already discarded the Amazon App Store option, as there's an annual fee the likes of which only Apple could conceive. Anyone knows more alternatives to publish apps?
All I am asking is some clarification or some links into why google restricts apps on the playstore by region?
I could understand why paid apps might not be available, whatever, but free apps should be free across the board. Thats why they are free right? Download them and use them. Whether you would be able to buy the pro versions or not depends.
This effectively judges people who are not likely to use the google play service to buy apps into oblivion. No apps, nothing. Google play is bare if you are not inside regions Devs want you to be or something. "Oh, dont happen to live in the places we are interested to sell our products, well, screw you!"
I dont get the whole region dsicrimination google does to people. What the hell am I supposed to do, start pirating apps? I can tell you for a fact that even apps like facebook are not aviable outside major regions such as North America or Europe and by europe I mean countries like germany,france,uk and so on, big or important countries in general in the EU.
This seriously puts me off using google play at all as I find this very damn unfair. Actually, I wont get an Android device, at least one that supports Google play as long as the guys in google think its smart to divide people within the places they live or are born. Just imagine if the internet was handled like this. In some places it is, and its just darn disgusting, having to use proxies and what not.
I dont know if apple or microsoft does this, so if somebody knows for a fact, or lives in regions excudling the EU, North America or Russia, please do tell.
I live in Indonesia, though I'm French.
When I'm bored and looking for some game apps, I check out the top downloaded apps on the Play Store. And let me tell you, when I see the amount of really crappy apps that make it to the top 50, I can definitely tell that I'm in an Indonesian Play Store. Is it a matter of really poor local taste or is someone employing cheap labor to promote nasty apps?
I read somewhere that you can avoid the region clock by tweaking the build.prop file but I'm not sure if it works for real
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You can use a VPN.
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I have it. I cant buy Ikaruga for my Android
shadowcore said:
All I am asking is some clarification or some links into why google restricts apps on the playstore by region?
I could understand why paid apps might not be available, whatever, but free apps should be free across the board. Thats why they are free right? Download them and use them. Whether you would be able to buy the pro versions or not depends.
This effectively judges people who are not likely to use the google play service to buy apps into oblivion. No apps, nothing. Google play is bare if you are not inside regions Devs want you to be or something. "Oh, dont happen to live in the places we are interested to sell our products, well, screw you!"
I dont get the whole region dsicrimination google does to people. What the hell am I supposed to do, start pirating apps? I can tell you for a fact that even apps like facebook are not aviable outside major regions such as North America or Europe and by europe I mean countries like germany,france,uk and so on, big or important countries in general in the EU.
This seriously puts me off using google play at all as I find this very damn unfair. Actually, I wont get an Android device, at least one that supports Google play as long as the guys in google think its smart to divide people within the places they live or are born. Just imagine if the internet was handled like this. In some places it is, and its just darn disgusting, having to use proxies and what not.
I dont know if apple or microsoft does this, so if somebody knows for a fact, or lives in regions excudling the EU, North America or Russia, please do tell.
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First of all I would like to clear ypur Doubt.
You Blaming Google Playstore then you are wrong as Restrictions of the app in Selected region is done by the developer of that app.
Who restricts some of the Regions while Publishing the app in the Playstore.
Most of the developer's select all but soke don't do it wont appear in those countries where the developer hasn't selected.
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You cam also download the Apk of that free app and install it Manually.
All apps free are Available in Google.
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Zeuscluts said:
First of all I would like to clear ypur Doubt.
You Blaming Google Playstore then you are wrong as Restrictions of the app in Selected region is done by the developer of that app.
Who restricts some of the Regions while Publishing the app in the Playstore.
Most of the developer's select all but soke don't do it wont appear in those countries where the developer hasn't selected.
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You cam also download the Apk of that free app and install it Manually.
All apps free are Available in Google.
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Google is enforcing those restrictions. If the devs dont want somebody to download their stuff from a certain country, they should at least bother to give a reason why. If its about piracy, then must be really thinking that pirates are dumb and cant get ahold of the apk to reverse engineer it from another source. Really...
Also, I dont believe that the guys who made facebook app set the restrictions, I could be wrong. Why would facebook, which works outside europe, not have a free app that is available everywhere? It makes no sense. It does not matter really. I just wish this issue got big and maybe forced google to change their playstore policy. At least free apps should be restriction free.
The only way to install apks, is to scavenge for apps on XDA and other place, check them manually if they contain suspicious activity and hope they are not malicious.
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Thank you for your responses. I will try to investigate about the build prop idea and VPN if they work.
If anybody got a windows device, does microsoft enforce this policy with their appstore, because apple, yes apple, has no such policy. I can confirm that based on an iPhone 4s I got to see. Sigh...
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Google is enforcing those restrictions. If the devs dont want somebody to download their stuff from a certain country, they should at least bother to give a reason why. If its about piracy, then must be really thinking that pirates are dumb and cant get ahold of the apk to reverse engineer it from another source. Really...
Also, I dont believe that the guys who made facebook app set the restrictions, I could be wrong. Why would facebook, which works outside europe, not have a free app that is available everywhere? It makes no sense. It does not matter really. I just wish this issue got big and maybe forced google to change their playstore policy. At least free apps should be restriction free.
The only way to install apks, is to scavenge for apps on XDA and other place, check them manually if they contain suspicious activity and hope they are not malicious.
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Thank you for your responses. I will try to investigate about the build prop idea and VPN if they work.
If anybody got a windows device, does microsoft enforce this policy with their appstore, because apple, yes apple, has no such policy. I can confirm that based on an iPhone 4s I got to see. Sigh...
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You can use VPN or proxies.
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Hey everyone, I hope everyone reading this thread is safe & well.
So this week I thought I'd ask everyone how they are getting on with HMS over GMS with some additional details -
For myself I was moulded by Google Mobile Services it is every well made, streamlined and efficient for day to day use and tweaking myself to use Huawei Mobile Services has been the better end of okay but still some major tweaks needed such as -
Apps / Services need to be located in one pre loaded folder
Services need to be shouted about more
Mapping services aligned to apps - such as Uber It would be nice to see driver's ETA
In app purchasing
For me these are key devolvement's and hope Huawei is working on these for update in 2020, What are you missing from GMS to HMS and how has the transition been for you?
Look forward to your answers
one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact
Barclays Banking - I'm happy enough to use it via the browser for the time being, as it's an app I only use a few times a month but would be nice to see added!
YouTube via Browser just isn't a full time solution for me - discovering Vanced has been a saviour (it's now on my P30 Pro too)
Google Drive and Photos was one that I didn't think I used at all, but is one of those things upon using a HMS device you realise you do! (Drive for WhatsApp backup and Photos was a nice background back up I never thought about) - I have since swapped over to Huawei's cloud making use of the 50GB free for 1 year offer and I've been pleasantly surprised at how well made and easy it is to use - not something that can always be said about their in-house solutions if we're being honest.
Google Maps was never used as navigation for me but more for visualising routes via a browser search - which it still works via - Have always used Waze or in car Sat Nav.
Never been interested in NFC payments and assistants, but will be interest to give them a go once Celia? and Huawei Pay improve/go live!
Tech_Droid1 said:
Hey everyone, I hope everyone reading this thread is safe & well.
So this week I thought I'd ask everyone how they are getting on with HMS over GMS with some additional details -
For myself I was moulded by Google Mobile Services it is every well made, streamlined and efficient for day to day use and tweaking myself to use Huawei Mobile Services has been the better end of okay but still some major tweaks needed such as -
Apps / Services need to be located in one pre loaded folder
Services need to be shouted about more
Mapping services aligned to apps - such as Uber It would be nice to see driver's ETA
In app purchasing
For me these are key devolvement's and hope Huawei is working on these for update in 2020, What are you missing from GMS to HMS and how has the transition been for you?
Look forward to your answers
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Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.
For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.
dw9075n said:
For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.
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can you not add in to your 'wallet' on the phone
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact
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haha, love your comment. I now a few people who are just using the online banking until its working.
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one thing im missing, Barclays banking and that's it! I can cast to a smart TV, I can do youtube/spotify etc just need to be able to control the wife spending the joint account savings! #fact
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Tell me about it Barclays needs to join the party soon for the exact same reason
how are you chrome casting? When I hit the screen share button on YTVR nothing seems to happen?
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Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.
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Petal Search Find Apps is great hands down, I have used Bolt and it is great to have this app on board so early as Bolt is going to be the next best thing for Uber like services also having the big branded apps on board is great.
I think (probably is happening in the background) HMS should be bringing in app purchases, mapping system in line app usage for apps like Pokémon Go / Uber etc
It would also be great to see App Gallery on app commercials like how it says available on Google Play Store, Apple Store etc this gets the brand out in to the public domain a lot more.
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For me the biggest thing I am missing is the starbucks app. I am guessing that it works via GMS mapping. But just after it for my reward cards.
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Oh well, Neros is better anyway I'm still old school with the stamp cards but makes me wonder if theirs will work or not too!
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
can you not add in to your 'wallet' on the phone
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I have tried the only issue is that i have not got a physical card. always been digital.
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Interesting read, my take on it is that services are already pre loaded in to a folder like music, video, themes, health which is cool. apps as we now know can be sourced via petal search but it would be good if that was preinstalled, which i believe is starting to happen. Uber is one to be looked at. but you do now have bolt which does them same thing and can be found in App store. Services have a fairly big exposure already. Its on FB, Insta, Tiktok, TV adds. what else do you feel they could be doing?
Hope you are having a good day.
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I suppose with uber can you still use the site for it? I don't have uber in south wales!
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I suppose with uber can you still use the site for it? I don't have uber in south wales!
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Still waiting for Deliveroo in this town :laugh:
I have GMS installed and suppressed all playstore notifications to avoid constant errors. II keep getting at random when I try to register the email and it checks Google " your device id is not registered" and some apps doesn't work as they can't find Google play services framework. But able to get netflix, YouTube vanced, Gmail (using huawei mail app) to work.
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I have GMS installed and suppressed all playstore notifications to avoid constant errors. II keep getting at random when I try to register the email and it checks Google " your device id is not registered" and some apps doesn't work as they can't find Google play services framework. But able to get netflix, YouTube vanced, Gmail (using huawei mail app) to work.
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Very interesting SkyIsBlue, are you considered reverting and trying HMS core?>
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Very interesting SkyIsBlue, are you considered reverting and trying HMS core?>
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No I will still keep GMS as play store is still working and I'm able to access my paid apps. Guess I will live with this error till some better fix comes up.
Ultramanoid said:
Google now wants to kill the .apk, and turn all Android applications into Play Store "bundles", even asking developers to hand over the signing keys.
Google Play dumps APKs for the more Google-controlled “Android App Bundle”
Starting in August, new apps will need to turn over their signing keys to Google.
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That's something I would pay to NOT have.
Now, THAT would be a very big difference between Silver and XDA versions. I hope there'll always be an independent, Google-free MiX over here, signed by Hootan only.
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I don't know whether to [complain bitterly; original word choice asterisked out] about Google or ArsTechnica: Google will "allow" a developer to retain a copy of the private key that the developer uploaded to Google?
Is there really no hope that developers will tell Google to pound sand?
J.Michael said:
I don't know whether to [complain bitterly; original word choice asterisked out] about Google or ArsTechnica: Google will "allow" a developer to retain a copy of the private key that the developer uploaded to Google?
Is there really no hope that developers will tell Google to pound sand?
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Ars also keeps track of projects Google kills and mocks them for it aaaall the time, to be fair.
No one prevents developers from making single APKs at present, but maintaining two versions, one for Play, one outside, is already giving them more work.
For some it may be worth it. For others, they're probably going to stick to the "rules" and give it all up.
Google might eventually just prevent Android from using "old" APK formats. But that'd be years away at any rate. Thank Android's glacial update pace. ( Compared to other OSes, such a big chunk of users of Android is on older versions, that it's not realistic to impose drastic changes such as this. )
Then again, Google changes its mind about things all the time. We'll see how this plays out. Horrible pun intended. I don't think any developer can take Google seriously about anything at this point.
( Personally I just use XDA, GitHub and F-Droid. No Play, no Google services, applications, or anything. And have for years now. Hope it doesn't affect us Google-free-freaks too much. )
Ultramanoid said:
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No one prevents developers from making single APKs at present, but maintaining two versions, one for Play, one outside, is already giving them more work.
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My idea of telling Google to pound sand is to refuse to deal with this app bundle crap. In an ideal world, Google would be left with no apps worth having.
No, I'm not holding my breath.
J.Michael said:
My idea of telling Google to pound sand is to refuse to deal with this app bundle crap. In an ideal world, Google would be left with no apps worth having.
No, I'm not holding my breath.
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I wish the Android Open Source Project had real teeth. I think that would solve all issues.
And then Google, or Samsung, or any other company, same as they do with Linux, could build whatever services they wish on top and profit, kill, steal, whatever it is they do. But users could have a choice not to be used themselves -- or be, if they don't care, and developers as well not to be treated as they are today. I mean, Play takes a 30% cut from your profit, tells you what you can do and how, and now your signing keys, too, please ? What the hell.
Unfortunately other than Lineage and their builds, nowadays, there is no other option when it comes to a functional Android other than Google's version of it.
AOSP is barely a skeleton. Google has been slowly killing it, removing more and more from it, or rather, moving functionality to their own services. Location for instance was long ago part of AOSP, and then they moved it to their proprietary bits. Same with everything else.
Why Google Play's APK replacement is scaring some security experts
Google Play will soon force developers to upload App Bundles instead of APKs, raising uncomfortable security questions about the requirement.
www.xda-developers.com
sd_shadow said:
Why Google Play's APK replacement is scaring some security experts
Google Play will soon force developers to upload App Bundles instead of APKs, raising uncomfortable security questions about the requirement.
www.xda-developers.com
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