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Is there going to be any xda support on this? It's still trickling into Kmart stores right now. but if we are able to OC this, that would be great
Doubt it...
its a great little device for little cash. i bought one today after i heard. glad i did. was this or the bb chumby. this blows it away
Hey Pen --
Have you tried the Kindle app on it? I want an ereader that is bigger than my MT3G and I think one of these would foot the bill if I can find one. My local store only had one and it was on hold for somebody.
I am going to get a rain check today.
until they release the patch which allows the market to work i havent tried it. they should have the patch released by tomorrow
How is the screen?
How do you like the screen and how is its performance in general.
over all i like the device. im used to a resistive screen so thats not a problem. doesnt appear to have the auto rotate screen but waiting to hear back from them to find out what the deal is. the manual talks about auto rotating the screen so it should have it. lack of bluetooth is another draw back but i really dont need it. they also have a 2.5mm headphone jack on them instead of a 3.5 like normal but they are addressing that with an adapter i do believe.
power consumption wasnt too bad. i was using the device for 5 hours yesterday and only used a 1/4 reserve from what it said. so i was only down to around 72% charge after playing with it for 5 hours. was reasonably bright enough in a brightly lit room. the angle one can see is pretty good as well.
the microsd card slot isnt in line properly. so if you insert a card you will want to put a price of tape on the end of it so when you release it you can pull it out. i played hell getting the thing to pull out and it was dragging the top of the card so had to use a pair of tweezers to pull it out.
cant access the market yet so havent tried the nook or kindle apps but that will be my next thing. looking at pictures was good. just as good as my digi pic frame.
over all for what i bought it for i do believe it will work a treat. i was going to buy a chumby either the bb or the sony branded chumby and this will work so much better then either of those two devices.
Augen Tablet
Thanks for the info pen.
It surprises me that that it has a 2.5mm jack. I wonder how it ended up with that. You can get an adapter on Amazon or ebay for a buck or two. That would be important for me because I'd like to be able to watch movies on it when I am on the train to work. That is also why I am interested in the Kindle app.
Everything that I have read seems to indicate that it has an accelerometer to rotate the screen.
I get the feeling that Augen underestimated the interest this device was going to generate and put it on the market when it wasn't completely ready, thinking they could dabble a little and fix problems on the fly with the couple of people that bought them. oops.
My Augen Gentouch78 experience
I just picked up my Augen yesterday at the KMart here in Phoenix (KMart actually called me on my raincheck I had made over the phone! Kudos to them). I like the form factor but am quite disappointed overall. While I don't think it is sluggish in general, the resistive touch screen makes it seem that way. Using your fingernail or an old pda stylus helps considerably in that regard.
Couple of negatives:
1. Market download does not work, as others have pointed out (it just stays in the "Starting Download" phase.
2. Micro SD card is hard to insert/remove (you need to use your fingernail in both cases, and to remove you need to also flick it down a bit to slide out as it seems to catch on the lip of the slot).
3. The device could not "Mount" when connected to my PC via USB. I had better luck when the SD card was not in the device, as I was able to Mount it once then, and saw that I had 1.3GB of free space... even though the device SD card info showed only 246ishMB free... what's up with that? (documentation did say there was 2GB available, so the Mounted drive size was closer).
4. I lost sound twice.. had to power off to get it back (all sounds started coming out as loud white noise). Seems to occur when pressing the top front part of the frame... yup, near where the menu/home/back buttons are.
5. Percentage battery use shows that monitoring cellular network was using 57% of the battery, and suggested turning it off. However, you can't... network settings only have WiFi (I curiously did find a place where it prompted me to turn on Bluetooth, but I don't think it did anything).
6. I wanted to return the unit due to the sound problem, but wanted to clear out my google account info... the factory reset does nothing other than power off the unit, even though that is how they say to clear out all data including the google account data.
7. No auto-rotate. No rotate at all that I can see. Nothing in the setup relating to that, even though the manual says it should be there.
8. Non-US Standard earphone jack
9. No mic or web cam
10. Resistive touch screen makes typing on the on-screen keyboard a PITA. I did get somewhat use to it after a while, but still don't like having to press firmly.
On the positive side:
After manually copying a ripped DVD movie in mp4 format onto my SD card and inserting it into the unit, it played great.
So, first impressions are basically way down there for me.
Some other specs:
- Telechips TCC8900 ARM CPU (on an eval board no-less!)
- Android 2.1 - Update 1
- Build 2010-07-21 (boy did they push these out the door... likely with no testing!!)
Eric
whisper1980 said:
I just picked up my Augen yesterday at the KMart here in Phoenix (KMart actually called me on my raincheck I had made over the phone! Kudos to them). I like the form factor but am quite disappointed overall. While I don't think it is sluggish in general, the resistive touch screen makes it seem that way. Using your fingernail or an old pda stylus helps considerably in that regard.
Couple of negatives:
1. Market download does not work, as others have pointed out (it just stays in the "Starting Download" phase.
2. Micro SD card is hard to insert/remove (you need to use your fingernail in both cases, and to remove you need to also flick it down a bit to slide out as it seems to catch on the lip of the slot).
3. The device could not "Mount" when connected to my PC via USB. I had better luck when the SD card was not in the device, as I was able to Mount it once then, and saw that I had 1.3GB of free space... even though the device SD card info showed only 246ishMB free... what's up with that? (documentation did say there was 2GB available, so the Mounted drive size was closer).
4. I lost sound twice.. had to power off to get it back (all sounds started coming out as loud white noise). Seems to occur when pressing the top front part of the frame... yup, near where the menu/home/back buttons are.
5. Percentage battery use shows that monitoring cellular network was using 57% of the battery, and suggested turning it off. However, you can't... network settings only have WiFi (I curiously did find a place where it prompted me to turn on Bluetooth, but I don't think it did anything).
6. I wanted to return the unit due to the sound problem, but wanted to clear out my google account info... the factory reset does nothing other than power off the unit, even though that is how they say to clear out all data including the google account data.
7. No auto-rotate. No rotate at all that I can see. Nothing in the setup relating to that, even though the manual says it should be there.
8. Non-US Standard earphone jack
9. No mic or web cam
10. Resistive touch screen makes typing on the on-screen keyboard a PITA. I did get somewhat use to it after a while, but still don't like having to press firmly.
On the positive side:
After manually copying a ripped DVD movie in mp4 format onto my SD card and inserting it into the unit, it played great.
So, first impressions are basically way down there for me.
Some other specs:
- Telechips TCC8900 ARM CPU (on an eval board no-less!)
- Android 2.1 - Update 1
- Build 2010-07-21 (boy did they push these out the door... likely with no testing!!)
Eric
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they are pushing an update out should be out tonight or tomorrow to fix a couple of the things. i believe the eval board is not correct as someone has found the chinese version of this and it has been out for a while. i just think the cooking of this device wasnt the best. i am just hoping they push 2.2 out on it pretty quickly.
I also got one today
I can confirm the market is not working for me either.. Yes build date is really new. haha.. I'm trying to get apps installed by emailing myself APK's to Gmail but I need something like APKatcher to do it. So so far I've not installed anything, but going into settings, aplications and manage I was able to kill the running apps and speed it up.
So far it's a cool little device. I also lost sound once and a reboot fixed it. haha (interesting) I watched 20 minutes of avatar and it looks incredible and gets much louder than a cell phone.. My 16GB MicroSD card went in fine.
There's a Stylus if you guys didn't figure that out yet. Makes typing extremely easy.
Anyone know how I can install some APK's?
ES File Manager comes Pre Loaded.. you can add any app APK to the SD card. and use ES File Manager to install
Installing Quadrant, and some games right now.. I'll post back
Rainchecks
I got two rain checks tonight. I want to get one for myself and I know my wife will want one if it is cool.
If anybody really wants one and lives in Eastern PA, they have 4 of them in the Reading PA store. That is a little far for me to drive and I like getting a rain check because I can make sure they are going to put out an update to make the market work.
It seems like the early reviews are mixed at best but c'mon...they are $150. I mean, if I can get my 6 year old to watch a thomas the tank engine video on it for a few minutes of peace each day, I have gotten my money's worth.
Dev thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7409528#post7409528
Well I got one yesterday and it is horrible.
I am hoping their support can help me get the screen a bit more responsive.
I mean I have to press on it like I'm trying to push through it.
The manual says there supposed to be a calibrations but there isn't.
The manual says there is an option to allow this to orientate according tot he direction held but theres not.
The manual says that when you charge the device the light should be red in color turning green when fully charged well I charged over night and its still red.
When I turn it on it says 100% battery...
Also I went into market which is like that on my Droid1, Incredible, Droidx... and chose to install a app like dropbox, weatherbug, MyMemo, SlingPlayer and it sis there saying downloading but its not.
I have my wifi connected to the device...
Anyone else with ideas???
I so wanted this to be a iPad alternative!!!
Thanks
I got one last night... I side loaded a bunch of apps from my Incredible... LauncherPro, Pandora, Quick Settings, Android System Info... Awesome Drop...they all work... The weird thing is some of the apps force the screen to Portrait, but i haven't found an app yet to turn it back.. (aside from rebooting)
I noticed the sound is wonky... sometimes it works...
I also noticed something installed called Dev Tools... It has a terminal, a bunch of dev settings, a package browser, sync tester, and some google tools..
I got one today as well. So far, all is not well.
Wifi seems to be an issue. I can connect to my network if I turn off security, but when I enable WEP, this thing just sits here and says 'Obtaining IP Address' and then shows 'Unsuccessful'. I have tons of other devices connected. The problem is not the network.
So, with security off, I played with it a bit. The browser seems to work fine. It defaults to mobile pages and I'd love to turn that off. No Flash as expected.
I also have a problem with sound. When anything produces sound (mp3, video, youtube, even clicking on something) all I get is horrible white noise.
I get constant alerts that things have failed to download. I assume that this is due to the Marketplace issue.
I threw in a micro SD that I had. I have no problems with it sticking as others have reported.
I will admit that this is my first taste of Android. I am a professional developer for other platforms though so I'm not a total knucklehead - just partial.
I hear that an update is imminent. Anyone have any info about this? Will it be done via the SD card? USB?
I REALLY want this to work
Greg
Update:
Looks like a reboot fixed a few things now. I am now connected to my secured network and sound is ok. So now I have a more or less functioning tablet.
You guys aren't having screen issues?
This is posted on the Augen website:
Patch for GENTOUCH78 Tablet (available 1700EST)
Dear Augen Customers (GEN Nation),
Thank you for showing your support and interest in our GENTOUCH78 Tablet. We became aware of the technical difficulties over the past 24 hours, and we will be posting an update for a patch to the software at the following link: http://augen.helpserve.com/ under latest download files within the next 48 hours.
Just to mention a few technical difficulties we have found and are patching are:
the memory size of 284mb not being shown as 2GB will be corrected as this is a glitch in the software.
Android Market place not being able to download apps will be fixed in this patch, as this is a glitch in the software. As of right now the operating system and pre-loaded applications are using .5 Gb so the available space displayed should be approximately 1.5GB.
To solve the issue with the headphone jack being too small for a 3.5 mm headphone connection, we ask you to send us an email to [email protected] with your Name, Adress, eMail Adress along with a proof of purchase. We will be sending you at our expense the 2.5 mm headphones to go along with the unit within 15-20 days. All future products that will be manufactured will have the new patch and a 2.5mm earbud to go along with the unit.
We want to make it a great experience for our customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to make it a great experience at Augen.
Thank you for your support,
Daniel Gofman
Vice President
Augen Electronics Corp.
the screen sucks
Alright everyone, so I got my invite from Microsoft last night to the Mango beta update. I've carefully followed all of the installation instructions, and on the last step when you need to update the phone to 7661, Zune seems to be hanging at step 8 for me (Restarting Your Phone) - it's been hung on this step for about an hour now. What's ironic though is that the phone has already restarted. It successfully booted into the user UI, and I checked the version number to make sure that it's the Mango beta (sure enough, it shows 7661). Also, on the phone I received a message saying something to the effect of "Update completed" or "Update successful". However, even with all of this Zune still appears to just be sitting on Step 8 of the update process. I have not dared to disconnect the phone from the USB cable, so I figured I would come here to ask first to see what exactly I should do (or if I should just wait some more ).
UPDATE: Issue has been resolved. Phone updated to Mango successfully!
I am also stuck similarly. Step 8 (though step 8 for me says installing updates and my phone has not rebooted).
Did you just wait it out?
Thanks!
[Update] I waited it out and it went to step 9 after around 30-45 mins. Took another 5-10 minutes to complete the updates
First, Lonnnng time reader/modder/hacker/technut, first time poster.
Secondly, my questions are: 1) Anyone else had such a positive experience as I did? And 2) Anyone else reproduce or trigger this ‘update’ in ICS?
Story below:
So I just purchased TF101 used, brought it home, and found out the long and hard way about the SOD/RR/DOCK/BATTERY/KERNEL issues that are plaguing a lot of users. So I researched for the past week (I'm a new owner), tried JB, ICS, etc, rom after rom. Still had same issues, and new ones (no wifi, sound, docking support gone, etc).
So, I went BACK to honeycomb 3.01 by flashing official update (WW version as I am in Canada) zip via CWM. I wiped cache, dalvik, data via CWM. Installed the zip. Tablet booted up perfectly. I did not sign into the google store. Turned tablet off completely WITHOUT being docked. Cold booted. Shut down. Used it for about 1.5 hrs, no reboots and could not repeat SOD/RR. However, HC is very slow compared to ICS. I then looked for the 3.2.1 update as it apparently makes the dock work correctly, and could never find it ANYWHERE (one rapidshare link and it was dead), all links were dead as the JP vers is the only one on Asus official site. 'check for updates' within the tablet did not work.
Next, I downloaded official xx.27 ICS off Asus website (around 253mB). Same procedure. wiped all cache/data/etc, flashed in CWM still (never put stock recovery as many recommended, didn't see the point). Booted tablet. Signed onto wifi, skipped signing in google account. Once in, turned off and cold booted back on. Used it for maybe 10 secs, and Asus updater pops up in task bar. The update had the same file-name of the update I just flashed however it had a July 27 date on it, and it was 302 mB (noticably larger than the 250~mB) update. NEVER saw this dialog before, even with my many attempts previously and all the different flashes/roms. Updater rebooted, installed itself (maybe 2 mins). I shut down completely once back in. Also, I still have not signed into my google account.
Following ICS update and shutdown, I then plugged my dock into wall outlet. I then finally docked (while off and for first time during entire process) the tablet, which then booted up. It immediately recognized the tablet, and made that ping sound confirming it was connected. Tablet booted up. I shut down, cold booted one last time. I then put it away on my shelf, lid closed. I opened this morning and 0 SOD or battery drain, which happened with EVERY SINGLE kernel/rom I tried for the past week. It would either SOD or RR. I left it open on 'about tablet' with uptime counter. It is still going. I checked various emails this morning, and ran some videos, etc, etc. Trying to reproduce RR/SOD. Usually it would occur within 10-15 mins of actually using it unit/being on wifi/etc/sleeping and waking.
I have a feeling that somehow Google is sending code (since you authorize OTA updates when you sign in) via being signed in that is somehow RR/SOD'ing (my theory), or there is some mysterious update I somehow triggered through this process. If anyone has reproduced this please let me know. But for now, this seems to fix battery drain at the very least, however I am running stock CPU clocks.
As i and many other are familiar with the RR/SOD troubles i have to say since i've updated with stock rooted .27 i haven't got the trouble anymore
Just checked and my transformer is still 86 % of battery capacity with an standby time of 1 day 18 hours
Before this update it almost always RR after using it when it was in standby mode again !
Ever since this update procedure my RR/SOD problems went down to near 0. I had one reboot in 3 long days of using my device, and that was from the stock browser. Which crashed before as well, anyways. I think this is a definite fix, which DOES NOT rely on external apps.
Not sure exactley how I triggered the update process. Please someone reproduce this 300~mB update that I triggered using CWM the entire update process!
Also, I have since extesively installed Google Play apps, and non-market sources. Not one crash, SOD, or RR. Dock work, charges excellent. Been using the unit for 2-3 days off and on with cbr viewer, movies n music playing, tonsof web browsing, etc. NO RR! NO SOD!
I have a LG G2x, got it when it first came out, dont want to buy a new phone really, but this thing is a plague.
the issues didnt matter before because i strictly used it for a very occasional phone call or txt and that was it, but now I'm using it more, and all its problems are too much to deal with. below is a list of issues with details I believe are relevant, if anyone has any suggestion for any of them please share.
Currently running:
Android version 2.3.3
kernal 2.6.32.9
build GR140
software version LG-P999-V21e
Issues:
1. Computer doesnt recognize phone (Can't go into USB Mass storage mode):
-when I plug the phone in, it charges, but no USB signal in the notification bar
-no "enable mass storage mode?",
-turned on/off mass storage mode in settings
-turned on/off usb debugging in settings
-used various (20+) usb cables, no change
-used various (10+) computers, no change
-used various USB ports on each computer, no change
-Installed various versions of LG Drivers and LGs update tool (every version I could find) into my PC
The phone originally went into mass storage mode fine and without trouble. within a few weeks of owning the phone I was given notification of an update and downloaded it, all was fine (I assume this was 2.3.3 from 2.3.2, not sure, wasn't familiar with android back then and didn't know these things). A couple months later I got another notification of a new update and downloaded it. When it was done I couldn't notice any changes, and I believe (its been years) the version stayed the same (2.3.3, LG-P999-V21e) After reading the last few days, it looks like my phone should have been able to upgrade to V21y and I had LG support verify this, but it never did (partially failed update?), using the check for update in my phone yields a never ending "checking server for update", and I'm unable to use the LG update tool because my PC cant recognize my phone.
This stops me from easilly accessing my phones files to share between my pc, plus I cant root or install any other android versions, nor can I even get the latest update for the stock version.
2. Random freezes
From what I can tell the phone stays on but the screen goes out (might be wrong, but I'm sure I heard a phonecall come in once when It did this), the only fix is to pull the battery and put it back in. Supposidly this was fixed in the 2.4.4 update, but I cant get it...so... yea.
3. SMS Messages (sometimes) come in multiple times.
This only recently started in the last 6-8 months, and is occuring with multiple people over multiple networks. Sometimes txting will be completely normal, but other times (random from what I can tell) I'll get the same text 2, 3, 4, 18 times over the course of an hour. It drives me nuts when someone says "sup" to me over and over again for an hour strait. cleared all my messages, cleared cache etc, factory reset, even got a new sim and called tmobile, nothing fixes it.
4. GPS SUCKS:
-cleared data/cache and uninstalled google maps updates
-reset various settings
-gone into hidden menu and altered various settings for the GPS (and set them back to the default ones)
-used various gps testing apps
-added Google to the SLP server list
-tried all combinations of data/wifi/roaming being enabled/disabled
Basically, I recently got data on my phone (never needed it) and tried to use GPS when going somewhere I'd never been to before. The first try googles nav sat there saying "searching for GPS..." and never found me, which I thought was weird because when I open the app it would put me exactly where I'm at, it just would instantly lose me for good. After a few days I realized SOMETIMES it would pick me back up, so I could travel with GPS, it would tell me where to go, lose me, I drive blind for 5-10 minutes, then it'd pick me up again long enough to give me the next turn, or tell me how to get back if I traveled off course.
Unacceptable.
So thats when I started reading and tinkering with settings. I've been able to make it so it -always- finds me within 10 seconds, unless I'm moving. If I'm in a car it will constantly lose me and re-find me (most of the time it can find me within 20-30 seconds, but sometimes it still completely loses me). It's better, but not right, and still only barely useable as a GPS guide for driving. The only fix I've seen that I havent tried yet is editing gps.conf, because I need root access to do so, and I cant do that because of issue #1 and can't find a "one click app/website" that works for my phone and software.
5. Performance in general kind of sucks
-factory reset
My phone was running very, very poorly, but that turned out to be due to 2 years of use, I did a factory reset on it and it sped up significantly, but it still manages to hang really bad in weird ways, maybe I just dont understand how android handles its memory. I can use an app perfectly fine, but if I continue to use it (say for 30+ minutes) my phone will begin to freak out. lock up, not respond, screen shut off, sometimes it even does a "soft restart" as i call it, the screen turns black but not off, then 5-10 minutes later it comes back on and acts like it was shut off completely. Not sure if theres a known performance issue with this phone or if this is just hardware limitation, figured I'd mention it.
==================================
The two issues I really want/need fixed is GPS stability, and mass storage mode. I can even do without mass storage mode, but I really, really want the GPS to work if nothing else.
Thank you in advance for anyone who can help, if I can get this thing to work right I think I'll have a lot of fun tinkering with the android OS.
I'm on stock rooted ROM 20H sep 2018. Last time I checked (just now) this is still the latest verion.
However my H910 keeps bugging me about new update available from AT&T.
Does that happen to you guys?
It didn't give me any info about versions and so on.
Should I proceed?
I got it too. Came here to see if it was just me. I'm on H910 Oreo stock rooted.
Warning: DO NOT try to silence the nagging by blocking the notifications. AT&T/LG will treat "quit bothering me" like "go ahead, have your way", and simply go ahead and try to install the update without even bothering to ask you next time. If you're running RootedStock, you'll end up in a slow semi-bootloop where Android boots, you'll have about 3-5 minutes, then it will forcibly install the update, reboot, you'll end up in TWRP, and when you reboot to system (or power off, then power up later), the whole cycle will repeat.
I'm not sure how robustly my solution worked, but here's how I broke out of it. So far, about 15 minutes after rebooting, it seems to have worked. Since I'm writing this AFTER seemingly fixing the problem, I'm writing it from memory, and can't say with 100% certainty which step was actually the one that fixed the problem for me. I actually began the process of installing Titanium backup about a half-dozen FOTA-reboot cycles before tripping over another post here that advised deleting /cache/FOTA. Titanium Backup might, or might not, be an essential element of my apparent success. I honestly don't know. If you own it, use it... you have nothing to lose. If you don't already own it, try just deleting /cache/FOTA first from TWRP's file manager and see whether it works (temporarily or permanently).
Anyway... here's the approximate path to slaying the FOTA beast:
1. I installed Titanium Backup from Google Play. It actually took two reboot cycles to do this... you REALLY have to be ready to unlock the phone, launch Google Play, search for Titanium, and trigger its installation while standing a few feet from your wifi AP for it to finish the download and begin installing it before the next forced-update attempt begins. When it does, swear violently. It'll make you feel a tiny bit better.
1b. When FOTA forces the reboot into TWRP, try deleting /cache/FOTA before rebooting. It might work to temporarily slay the FOTA beast, it might not. If it does, it'll save you about 30 minutes of FOTA-reboot misery for the remaining steps. Feel free to repeat this after each of the following steps. It can't hurt.
2. On the next cycle, launch Google Play the moment your phone finishes booting, and go back to Titanium Backup. Hopefully, it'll be installing. With a little luck, installation will finish before FOTA begins. Then sigh, and let FOTA waste another 5 minutes of your time.
3. On the next cycle, launch Ti backup, give it permanent root permission, and give it permission to do everything it wants. Then, try to launch Google Play, search for Titanium, scroll down, select Ti Backup pro key, and try to initiate installation before FOTA kicks in yet again.
4. On the next cycle, launch Google Play, search for Titanium, scroll down, select the pro key, and begin installation if it isn't already downloading and/or installing. 99% likely you'll end up going through another round of FOTA misery.
4b. If FOTA is still forcing reboots up to this point, repeat step 1b before step 5.
5. On the next cycle, launch Titanium Backup, give it any additional permissions it wants, then select Backup/Restore, scroll down to "FOTA Update 8.0.0", and freeze it.
5b. If FOTA kicks in again, repeat step 1b.
If, despite deleting /cache/FOTA, then freezing FOTA Update 8.0.0 using Ti backup, then deleting /cache/FOTA again, it's still happening... well, then my solution didn't work for you (and possibly not for me. I'll start breathing again normally if my phone is still working normally tomorrow).
Anyway, hopefully this will help someone. I suspect a lot of people running RootedStock Oreo are going to get stung by this. I'd guess that more than a few v20 owners actually bought theirs long after AT&T's previous forced update, and have never actually HAD to deal with blocking forced updates with their current ROM.
It's entirely possible that purchasing Ti backup (I don't think the free version can freeze apps) will be essential for the H910 going forward if you want to keep using what was, prior to yesterday, the newest rooted-stock Oreo ROM without having AT&T's FOTA harass you every few hours (or wipe your phone and reflash once someone releases a newer build based on the current update). Trust me, you can't swat it away forever. I went through this forced-update nagging bull**** years ago with my Motorola Photon. Someday, when you least expect it, the dialog will come flying at you when you're driving and trying to select a song using Amazon Music, or in the middle of a phone call, or semi-distracted, or scrolling down a web page while the phone is bogged down because it's grinding its wheels in the background preparing to harass you about updating again, and you WILL accidentally click "ok" & have your life go down the toilet for the next few hours until you're able to dig yourself out of the mess.
Bite the bullet, and freeze FOTA Update 8.0.0 now, while you can still do it without burning an hour of your life waiting for reboot after reboot.
For those finding their way here, make sure to back up in the brief period of time before you get hamstrung if you can't freeze the process. I am/was bone stock H910 and after ATT forced the update on me, my phone now won't finish starting up and functionally boot-loops now until I pull the battery.
It will start, get to the home screen, I might get 5-15 seconds of actual usable time with the phone before it freezes, goes back to the bootscreen and will get warmer and warmer and give me less and less time until it freezes in the middle of the ATT logo. Tried pulling SD card and SIM card, just in case. The sim card removal bought me enough time to get the phone to tell me it was "finished updating" but upon attempting to power down and start re-inserting cards, the phone locked up and bootlooped.
No idea what this update is for but it seems to have killed my phone rather handily, beware.
FWIW, airplane mode does not stall the update either.
bitbang3r said:
Warning: DO NOT try to silence the nagging by blocking the notifications. AT&T/LG will treat "quit bothering me" like "go ahead, have your way", and simply go ahead and try to install the update without even bothering to ask you next time. If you're running Roote
Bite the bullet, and freeze FOTA Update 8.0.0 now, while you can still do it without burning an hour of your life waiting for reboot after reboot.
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Hope I'm not jinxing myself, but this appears to have worked for me.
I have gotten a "update could not be installed" popup, which I'm taking to be a good sign.
Still annoying, since I have auto-updates turned off.
Ugh, it popped up again. Confirmed, FOTA is still frozen.
It initiated the update for me on its own. Luckily I noticed and plugged it in or it would have died and maybe bricked the phone.
I don't notice a difference. Same Android version (8.0) same security patch (Sept 2018). The ATT version might have gone from H to I.
Yep, it started nagging me again, too. Goddamn it, this is really starting to piss me off.
Okay, on mine I think when I delete /cache/FOTA while in TWRP, it might not actually be deleting the folder.
I deleted the folder in recovery mode, then rebooted and went straight to X-plore file manager. The FOTA folder was either still there, or it just recreated itself on boot. I deleted it again in X-plore and it's now been working since my previous post.
Fingers crossed.
I just rooted a H910 yesterday, and this morning the same "slow boot loop" with the update started. I tried different things, and what so far seems to have worked was:
1. Entered TWRP recovery (from the last "update cycle." (Not like I had a choice.)
2. Wiped everything and re-installed Oreo, and all other zip and img files back to the way I originally set it all up.
3. After phone was booted up, I DID NOT have a SIM card in it, nor did I enable WiFi.
4. Temporarily skipped all the Google sign in stuff.
5. Enabled Developer options, and turned off "automatic system updates." (Not Google Play Updates!)
6. Re-booted phone and then confirmed that the above setting still showed "off."
7. Enabled WiFi and connected.
8. Set up Google account and other misc settings.
9. Restored a backup that I had made prior to the phone doing the update reboot loop, but was careful to uncheck settings. I did not use Titanium Backup. I used the built in one.
NOTE: This is not my daily driver phone. It is meant to be used as an emergency backup phone in the event that my regular phone (Samsung Galaxy S Series) falls in a canal or gets run over by a truck. (Or City Bus)
So far so good. I will use the phone for the day and check again the following morning to see if it starts the forced update. I will check back here in a few days and let everyone know what the end result was.
My theory is that if the phone does not have a chance via cell data or WiFi to get any FOTA updates prior to me turning off the "automatic system updates" that is in the Developer Options, it will never check in with AT&T's update server.
I am not sure about this, and if someone else knows, please correct the following:
I don't think AT&T "pushes" updates out. At least the type of updates we are talking about. I believe the software in the phone periodically polls an AT&T update server, and "pulls" any update at a schedule time, or time interval. My working theory is that turning off the automatic system updates will disable this automatic check, or polling routine. If it already has an update that it downloaded prior to turning off automatic system updates, its too late.
Thanks for everyone's input on this in advance.