Anyone know what MDM means when they break this out and list it with all the installed apps? I assume its a compilation of Android background services, but it is consistently pegged at using 25 to 35% of the total data. Is this amount of OS data normal for an Android device? Is this the hook that Google has into us that allows us the privilege of using their free software, or am I way off base and it's something more mundane?
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I've got a very annoying data problem here: Sony Xperia S, Android 2.3.7 (Build .75), 500MB dataplan and the OS takes 300 of that! I already took some precautions like turning of the backup, I've logged out of Facebook and removed my Hotmail app. And I installed JuiceDefender Plus which handles my connections, but no results whatsoever: Android OS still uses 5-10MB/day...
Any help would be very, very welcome.
An application like Juice Defender won't help you lower data plan usage because its first aim is to prevent battery depletion while meeting certain conditions (like screen turned off, for example.)
This means that when you turn on the screen and Juice Defender restores mobile data, Android does broadcast a message (android.net.conn.CONNECTIVITY_CHANGE) to all registered listeners, that let them know when they can use the network again.
As a example, think of an email client that will access its configured POP/IMAP servers when it can. No matter how long the screen was off (and thus mobile data disabled by Juice Defender,) it will always download the same amount of data when your device is put back on line (luckily for you I would say in the case of an email client because if it were not the case, that would mean you're losing mails...)
When it comes to data accounting, Android simplifies things a bit too much, and you end with not very insightful labels like "Android OS." This may indicate that the Google apps framework (a standard package shared among different applications) is the one using your data plan.
I wrote an app that accounts data used by process rather than package, and let you know the associated packages with each process and also showing real-time network usage graphics along with many other real-time data to workaround those kind of limitations (as I don't want to make publicity -- even if it's free -- PM me if you're interested and I'll point you to it.)
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I've got a very annoying data problem here: Sony Xperia S, Android 2.3.7 (Build .75), 500MB dataplan and the OS takes 300 of that! I already took some precautions like turning of the backup, I've logged out of Facebook and removed my Hotmail app. And I installed JuiceDefender Plus which handles my connections, but no results whatsoever: Android OS still uses 5-10MB/day...
Any help would be very, very welcome.
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I faced the same problem, issue was somewhat with auto backup of data, sync of app data & people details in google account,
BUT the main culprit in my case was uTorrent application.
Even though there was no torrent added to it, i didn't even opened it,
it was using 1GB data daily on WiFi and in data usage it was coming under Android OS usage. I uninstalled it, everything went back to normal.
So try to look for such apps which eat up your data in background, it may not be an error of android OS as such.
Hope this helps, Press THANKS if it did help you
Enjoy
I'm checking the data usage on my Moto G since updating to Android 4.4.4, and I'm surprised at the amount of background mobile data usage while doing nothing. The two big background data users are Android OS and Google [Play] Services (the name changes back and forth). Android OS uses about 20 Kbytes/hr, but with occasional bursts of 200 Kbytes or more in a short time. I've read that it can shoot up to hundreds of Mbytes if Android is allowed to do OS updates over the air, but mine is up to date as far as I know. Google Services uses about 10 Kbytes/hr when sync is disabled for all components for all Google accounts, but turn on any one of them (like Gmail or Calendar) and it jumps to 70 Kbytes/hr even though there are no changes to sync. Multiply by the number of Google accounts on the phone. I see a lot of questions about this, but no real answers. Some people claim much lower data usage with other phones and Android versions, but don't seem to have any different settings. Is there anything special about Android 4.4.4 on the Moto G? Has anyone found a way to see what's going on inside the background data usage by Android OS and Google Services?
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I'm checking the data usage on my Moto G since updating to Android 4.4.4, and I'm surprised at the amount of background mobile data usage while doing nothing. The two big background data users are Android OS and Google [Play] Services (the name changes back and forth). Android OS uses about 20 Kbytes/hr, but with occasional bursts of 200 Kbytes or more in a short time. I've read that it can shoot up to hundreds of Mbytes if Android is allowed to do OS updates over the air, but mine is up to date as far as I know. Google Services uses about 10 Kbytes/hr when sync is disabled for all components for all Google accounts, but turn on any one of them (like Gmail or Calendar) and it jumps to 70 Kbytes/hr even though there are no changes to sync. Multiply by the number of Google accounts on the phone. I see a lot of questions about this, but no real answers. Some people claim much lower data usage with other phones and Android versions, but don't seem to have any different settings. Is there anything special about Android 4.4.4 on the Moto G? Has anyone found a way to see what's going on inside the background data usage by Android OS and Google Services?
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Seems the culprit is the notification system, including the checking for updates. Most of the services are internet based because they're stored on Google servers, that's why the data consumpion is so high for those processes.
I've got into the habit of turning off mobile data any time I don't need to use it. It can be a bit annoying but there's just no way of knowing if data is being used up while I'm unaware so it's the best way of avoiding surprises.
Hi,
I just wanted to ask what is "android OS"? when it comes to data usage.
Here is my issue:
I recently check my data usage under phone settings and surprised that "android OS" was the second highest data usage. It consumed roughly 9GB of data in span of 1 month. Mostly of my activities was video streaming via modified youtube app. and downloading on my chrome browser.
I am also using softether vpn app which requires root to run.
I just wanted to make sure that his data usage of android OS were not due to some malware.
Thanks in advance
I am using rooted Honor 8 b389 with Magisk 18.1.
I am not able to disable the foreground and background data of Android OS which is system app. All other apps including system app I can do that.
Can anybody disable that, because this Android OS is using background data when I am in mobile network and I don't have the bandwidth.
I tried a lot a thinks but seems like the Android OS and the Messaging services are white listed to run in background from Huawei. And there is no way to disable them doesn't matter which firewall you're using.
Maybe that's with every devices from Huawei doesn't matter from the build version. Everything is about privacy in this days
Unfortunately I wasn't able to restrict that with the netpolicy.xml Somethig which was working with other devices.
If there is no interest in this topic I will closed in few days.
Simply you can't disable it 'cause it is the core system of Android and it is forced white listed as I know
I get a daily "some processes are using cpu restart phone" prompt in my notification bar. I can't find what is causing the error. Dev options only shows ram usage. As the title says, what's up why did they remove this troubleshooting option for non root users? Any input on this error? Good to be back btw.
Meh, that's one reason I'm still running Pie on my 10+.
When it happens look to see what was cache last. I use Device Care for this but my version is the factory load one. The Developer options one may not be as useful as you can't clear them like you can in DC.
I've found the root cause for many nasties like this...
If you haven't done a factory reset after the 11 upgrade... it's time to.
Appreciate the advice. Will try what you recommend
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Appreciate the advice. Will try what you recommend
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This is one of the reasons I'll still running on Pie, I know 11 is a mess. Securing the phone from the user is bs... unless they're morons. No way to protect that sort of user anyway
Maybe you can use ABD to enable logging in Karma Firewall or other advanced features now blocked in other trusted apps.
You can use the trial and error approach, something which I use a lot in lieu of proper diagnostics. Be aware that dependencies can cause a ripple effect as well as false usage reporting. Especially with Google system apks
Disabling, firewall blocking, clearing their data, clearing system logs can be much more effective than rebooting the phone. I normally now keep Google Play Services package blocked except when needed; it's a known trouble maker to me.
All cloud apps, Google Transport/Framework*, all carrier/Samsung/Google feedback as well Google Firebase are package blocked or disable.
Use this Package Blocker:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Block Android Systems UID 1000 with Karma Firewall as it's almost never needed. It's not neccessary to firewall block Google Play Services if it's packaged blocked otherwise try doing so. Both of the above apks needlessly ping the internet constantly sucking up resources.
Karma Firewall uses virtually no battery, it's a gem.
Karma Firewall - Apps on Google Play
Karma Firewall app lets you block internet traffic to and from specific apps.
play.google.com
*Framework's dependencies still run in the background or is falsely reported as Framework albiet at a greatly reduced usage level with Framework being blocked.
Awesome I'm dl'ing it now. It's just beyond me on an octacore cpu any process would cause this error unless it's erroneous. But than how can you tell when they remove such a basic ability like monitoring app cpu usage.
demize! said:
Awesome I'm dl'ing it now. It's just beyond me on an octacore cpu any process would cause this error unless it's erroneous. But than how can you tell when they remove such a basic ability like monitoring app cpu usage.
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Google sucks elephant balls bad. It was hard with Pie but now it's even worse.
Google doesn't care because you aren't the customer, you're the product.
The lack of user monitoring makes Google's data mining easier than ever for them to do.
Makes MS look like saints... one look at the Google Firebase data on my Google account made me puke; all 6700 whatever of my songs -were- listed there. It just did it even though nothing on my device I use need it to function properly. Meanwhile it's sucking up cpu cycles to build and maintain it... or it was
Out of such frustrations comes WhatsRunning - my response to Android's denial of low-level access. See if it helps: https://mirfatif.github.io/WhatsRunning/help/cpu_usage_per_process_android