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I just bought the Nexus S, but I fear the process of importing all my apps and settings from the N1 to the NS. I have about 80 apps, approx 20 paid apps and 20gb used on the external 32Gb memorycard. Of course, I will need to trim down the data amount to lower than 16Gb that is available on the NS. All of the apps that can, are installed on the SD card.
I have both a regular gmail account and a paid Google Apps account that are synked with my N1
So, must I set aside a whole working day manually re-installing all apps and reenter licence codes & settings & synk settings, or can I simple log in to the new phone and experience - like magic - that everything is transferred wirelessly? (I would consider believing in Santaclaus if that happened)
i moved from hero to nexus s and had the same problem, i used titanium backup to restore most of my apps+data, it will automatically link the apps to the market and install them on the next best place (for example it was on ext on my hero but got moved to internal on my nexus s)
but rom-/systemapp-settings had to be reentered manually because the rom got corrupted when i tried to restore my settings (for example google account)
hope this could help you out a bit.
I've gone through 4 phones and my paid apps have followed me. The non paid apps don't though. I definitely recommend Titanium Backup for those as well. Especially if you have game saves or something. I don't mind re-entering information for like connecting to my server but game saves that would piss me off to lose.
The free version I think you have to restore them individually but the paid version you can do them all at once I believe. Coming from the same android version always helps this process too.
Google login on the new phone should push a lot of stuff to the phone, but you might need to make sure the setting on the Nexus One to back up your setigns on the cloud/mothership is turned on. It's not been 100% reliable for me in the past moving from one phone to another.
Agreed with the others who suggest Titanium, it's been a life-saver.
We're assuming you're rooted, because to use Titanium, you must be rooted. Also, get the paid version, it's under $5 and adds a lot of functionality, like batch restore of all your apps.
On caveat when moving from one phone to another (or even one ROM to another) is that when you restore with Titanium, you just want to restore apps + app data...you don't want to restore system settings, this could, supposedly, lead to some trouble.
i see this asked a lot, but i must be confused. i thought that anytime you sign into an android phone with your account, all free and paid apps you have automaitically download to the phone, simply by signing in. i know when i completely wipe my phone, sign in upon boot up, and all apps return like i never even wiped. i can watch them install one by one over a 15 min period.
even my wallpaper gets saved to google's server, and placed back onto the phone as my wall paper. most settings too.
the one thing you will not have saved are texts, oh and any app-specific data from the old phone.
Your app history is tied to the sign in account (free and paid).
The data/settings for the applications is the issue at hand. Some developers sync the data to cloud services, some don't. For the latter you must to the titanium backup deal to move stuff or copy the sd card contents. Some devs opt to just create a folder on the sd card.
Most google applications (obviously) sync data/settings to the cloud. They offer devs a service to do the same. As more devs use it or their own you'll be able to seemlessly switch from device to device withou a hassle.
if i didn't want to use titanium is it as simple as zipping up the content on the nexus one's sd card and then somehow importing all contents (app data, etc) on to the nexus S?
then after that reinstall any apps that i have downloaded or bought?
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if i didn't want to use titanium is it as simple as zipping up the content on the nexus one's sd card and then somehow importing all contents (app data, etc) on to the nexus S?
then after that reinstall any apps that i have downloaded or bought?
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Yep, it's pretty much that simple.
So today my replacement infuse came in the mail. I was all giddy until I noticed that on the market, only 3 apps were under the "not installed" section and that was it. I wanted to back up call logs and SMS. Which I got with SMS and call log back up apps and browsed to my SD to save the files.
I really wanted this to be seamless transition. Like when you plug iPhone into iTunes, back up, get a new phone, and restore from iTunes. I was wondering if its possible to do something like that with infuse? If not, what apps should I use? The old infuse is rooted. The new one, obviously, is not. I sold my computer for a car so I can't really do much but use apps and SD card.
Anyone got anything?
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I would suggest picking up Titanium Backup(TB) and using it to backup your user apps. Do not backup system data though. Once you finish, just copy the Titanium Backup folder to your computer and then to the internal memory of the new phone. Obviously you will need to root and reinstall TB on your new phone, but that will make the transition more seamless. I would suggest individually restoring the apps you want with TB rather than mass restoring them all.
The market has a tendency to only track apps that you've purchased and then seems to sporadically remember the others.
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Yeaaah I had TB on the old one already and love it when switching roms. I guess ill have to barrow a friends computer and try that out. Thanks!
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So as to avoid needing a computer, you could always put it on a micro sd card and transfer it that way. Just toss it on the external sd, then pop the card into your new phone and move the folder to the internal sd.
I've had issues at times transferring between internal and external sd in the same device, but that could just be a bug in the software. Not 100% certain.
Best bet would obviously be just to toss the folder onto the computer then just transfer it from the computer to the new phone. Easy peasy.
Good luck.
I apologise if this is in the wrong forum I have Titanium backup pro and want to sync to my drop box but when I do this it also makes a backup on my nexus 4 internal storage is it not possible just to backup to drop box
Thanks in advance
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This is exactly what I want to do as well - to back up all the files straight away to Dropbox/box without having to store them onto my internal storage first.
My backup files are 1.8gb at the moment and I hate to think all that precious storage space have gone to waste.
I think carbon, which is another file backup app, is capable of direct upload to the cloud. However it is not as powerful as titanium backup. Carbon is free though.
Dropbox always needs local storage to sync with the cloud storage.
You have gotten further than I have. I have Titanium Pro and I can not get it to backup to Dorpbox. My internal storage dropped to just under nil last night after a backup.
Just use FolderSync. I just did that.
Alternatively you could delete all backups after the upload to dropbox is complete. It's what I do (not to all apps but some of them)
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There is really no reason to drop box your Titanium Backup, that is why you have Titanium! Plug the phone into the computer, with appropriate drivers of coarse, and copy your titanium file to hard drive, then copy to a USB reader with a large enough micro to hold it. You are now double backed up and not killing the Data Network!
Best of Luck!
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There is really no reason to drop box your Titanium Backup, that is why you have Titanium! Plug the phone into the computer, with appropriate drivers of coarse, and copy your titanium file to hard drive, then copy to a USB reader with a large enough micro to hold it. You are now double backed up and not killing the Data Network!
Best of Luck!
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Some phone, such as nexus 4, doesn't have external DVD cards and that's why we don't want to store backup locally. My impression is that since titanium backup does incremental back up of only the changes, removing the files locally on device means each back up would take significantly longer.
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Sorry for bumping such an old thread, but the question fits exactly what I am trying to find out.
How do I set up titanium backup do write directly to dropbox?
I have only limited space on my phone and I dont want to have the titanium folder (several GB big) in my internal storage.
Hello, I wanted to know about how SD cards and Root and all the stuff that is associated with rooting (ROMS, backups, etc) interact. I am on Verizon, currently have a Droid X2, which is a really bad phone, and am due for an upgrade already. I am considering choosing between the HTC One and the GS4, but leaning towards the One because of the design/speakers/snapiness/etc. But there is one thing that I'm concerned about. It doesn't have expandable storage. No expandable storage = no SD Card. I wanted to know because I've seen a few reviews and some of them say that Rooters should stay clear of the One because it doesn't have an SD card.
Another thing: I currently own a Nexus 7 which is rooted, so no SD card there either, but I never realized that I won't be able to quickly restore all of my apps through titanium like I do on my X2, because I realized that all the backups are saved on my X2s SD card, so whenever I factory restore or change ROMs, it's convenient to have my apps and the app data on the SD card. So if I were to wipe my Nexus 7 or change ROMS, the backups would be gone because they are stored on the internal storage, right?
So my questions are:
What role does an SD card have in the Rooting processes and root related things? Is it necessary? What are the advantages of having an SD on the device?
Can any of the roles an SD card has be worked around without one?
Can I have my backups backed up to the cloud or other method in which they can be quickly restored, like on my X2 with the SD card?
Why do the reviewers stay to stay clear of devices without SD card slots?
Should I get the One, and now that I think of it, should have I got my Nexus 7 since I'm a rooter and might change ROMs/have to factory reset?
So my questions are:
What role does an SD card have in the Rooting processes and root related things? Is it necessary? What are the advantages of having an SD on the device?
Nothing; the advice about the One just meant that people who root and ROM their devices tend to horde a lot of phone-related files, so expandable storage is a plus since it allows you to cost-effectively add storage as needed. As for advantages? Being able to add storage as you need it, for cheap, and the ability to seamlessly move your files from phone to phone or computer easily. Plus, apps require internal storage, so another plus of having external storage is that you can put all of your media and other files on external storage to save app space.
Can any of the roles an SD card has be worked around without one?
Sort of; both phones (One and S4) support USB OTG. It's a cheap, $2 cable on eBay that's a microUSB adapter on side (goes into the charger port on your phone) and a full-sized USB port on the other. It lets you plug in flash drives, keyboards, mice, etc. There's also this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andyfei/mini-microsd-reader-for-android-smartphones-and-ta
Can I have my backups backed up to the cloud or other method in which they can be quickly restored, like on my X2 with the SD card?
If by backups you mean Titanium Backup, yes. Titanium Backup has a native export to cloud option that supports Google Drive, Dropbox, and other providers. If you mean Nandroids (full device backups), just copy them off your phone to your computer. They're saved in a folder on either your SD card or internal storage (guessing your SD card on your Droid X2). I don't recommend at all restoring app backups from two different devices, let alone two completely different versions of Android. It's guaranteed to screw up your ROM in one way or another. It's fine to restore an app to a different device/version of Android, but not the data with it.
Why do the reviewers stay to stay clear of devices without SD card slots?
A few reasons, though none of them have to do with the ability to root:
- If your phone dies (completely, due to damage or just having a bad unit), the data is pretty much gone and unrecoverable. If you were using a microSD card, you could have just pulled it out of the phone and called it a day.
- You can expand the storage for cheap; one of the biggest flaws of the iPhone is that going from 16GB to 32GB costs $100. A 16GB microSD card is like, what, $10? Nuff said.
- Apps can only be installed to internal storage (unless you use some root apps that are a pain in the butt). If you offload all your media (photos, music, videos, etc) to your external storage, you can have room for all your apps. Remember that games are starting to take up over a gigabyte each in some cases. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Need For Speed: Most Wanted, Asphalt 7, etc.
Should I get the One, and now that I think of it, should have I got my Nexus 7 since I'm a rooter and might change ROMs/have to factory reset?
It depends on your preferences. The One is a great phone in itself; it depends on you whether or not the lack of microSD card slot is a deal-breaker. It won't affect your ability to root the phone, but consider the answers to your questions that I gave you (I'm not swaying you from or towards it). The Nexus 7 is a great tablet; again, having a microSD card slot has nothing to do with the ability to root your device.
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So my questions are:
What role does an SD card have in the Rooting processes and root related things? Is it necessary? What are the advantages of having an SD on the device?
Nothing; the advice about the One just meant that people who root and ROM their devices tend to horde a lot of phone-related files, so expandable storage is a plus since it allows you to cost-effectively add storage as needed. As for advantages? Being able to add storage as you need it, for cheap, and the ability to seamlessly move your files from phone to phone or computer easily. Plus, apps require internal storage, so another plus of having external storage is that you can put all of your media and other files on external storage to save app space.
Can any of the roles an SD card has be worked around without one?
Sort of; both phones (One and S4) support USB OTG. It's a cheap, $2 cable on eBay that's a microUSB adapter on side (goes into the charger port on your phone) and a full-sized USB port on the other. It lets you plug in flash drives, keyboards, mice, etc. There's also this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andyfei/mini-microsd-reader-for-android-smartphones-and-ta
Can I have my backups backed up to the cloud or other method in which they can be quickly restored, like on my X2 with the SD card?
If by backups you mean Titanium Backup, yes. Titanium Backup has a native export to cloud option that supports Google Drive, Dropbox, and other providers. If you mean Nandroids (full device backups), just copy them off your phone to your computer. They're saved in a folder on either your SD card or internal storage (guessing your SD card on your Droid X2). I don't recommend at all restoring app backups from two different devices, let alone two completely different versions of Android. It's guaranteed to screw up your ROM in one way or another. It's fine to restore an app to a different device/version of Android, but not the data with it.
Why do the reviewers stay to stay clear of devices without SD card slots?
A few reasons, though none of them have to do with the ability to root:
- If your phone dies (completely, due to damage or just having a bad unit), the data is pretty much gone and unrecoverable. If you were using a microSD card, you could have just pulled it out of the phone and called it a day.
- You can expand the storage for cheap; one of the biggest flaws of the iPhone is that going from 16GB to 32GB costs $100. A 16GB microSD card is like, what, $10? Nuff said.
- Apps can only be installed to internal storage (unless you use some root apps that are a pain in the butt). If you offload all your media (photos, music, videos, etc) to your external storage, you can have room for all your apps. Remember that games are starting to take up over a gigabyte each in some cases. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, Need For Speed: Most Wanted, Asphalt 7, etc.
Should I get the One, and now that I think of it, should have I got my Nexus 7 since I'm a rooter and might change ROMs/have to factory reset?
It depends on your preferences. The One is a great phone in itself; it depends on you whether or not the lack of microSD card slot is a deal-breaker. It won't affect your ability to root the phone, but consider the answers to your questions that I gave you (I'm not swaying you from or towards it). The Nexus 7 is a great tablet; again, having a microSD card slot has nothing to do with the ability to root your device.
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Thank you for replying so quickly, I appreciate that! I know that SD cards don't affect rooting whatsoever, but some features that you need to root like titanium backup for restoring app data/apps.
As far as cloud backups go, I know how to backup my applications and app data to the cloud, but how would you go about restoring the apps and data? I'm asking because if you have an SD card you find the location on the SD card where your backups are and you just restore straight from titanium. Since they're in the cloud, would you have to manually move them from PC to the internal storage folder? Or download them from the cloud one by one to you're device? (I know you can create a flashable zip file, but last time I tried it on my X2, it boot looped, so I had to factory restore it.)
That's my main concern is backups and restoring data. How do you do it from the cloud that's as fast as from an SD card? Or how do you perform restores at all from the cloud? Thanks so much!
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Thank you for replying so quickly, I appreciate that! I know that SD cards don't affect rooting whatsoever, but some features that you need to root like titanium backup for restoring app data/apps.
On phones running Ice Cream Sandwich and above, the internal storage shows up as an SD card (the phone may not say it, but if you go into Android's root directory with a file browser, you'd see /mnt/sdcard/ , which is really just the internal storage. If you put a memory card into a Galaxy S3 or S4, the card shows up as /mnt/extsdcard/. Most technical apps allow you to choose where to save/load to and from. Titanium Backup is one of those apps. You can copy your backup folder from the memory card in your X2 to the internal storage in the One. Or you can even use one of those USB OTG cables to put it on a flash drive or card reader directly into the One (remember, a USB OTG cable gives you a full USB port).
As far as cloud backups go, I know how to backup my applications and app data to the cloud, but how would you go about restoring the apps and data? I'm asking because if you have an SD card you find the location on the SD card where your backups are and you just restore straight from titanium. Since they're in the cloud, would you have to manually move them from PC to the internal storage folder? Or download them from the cloud one by one to you're device? (I know you can create a flashable zip file, but last time I tried it on my X2, it boot looped, so I had to factory restore it.)
To be honest, I haven't used Titanium Backup's cloud feature because my home internet isn't too fast, so uploads would be slow, so I don't know much about restoring from the cloud. But I would assume you'd be able to do so. A quick Google search should help you out.
That's my main concern is backups and restoring data. How do you do it from the cloud that's as fast as from an SD card? Or how do you perform restores at all from the cloud? Thanks so much!
Well pulling files over the internet will always be much slower than reading them from local storage; like I said, you can specify to Titanium Backup where your backups are located. You can even export certain app backups into one file (if you hit Menu in TB, you'll see the option if you scroll down a bit). Then you can import it to your One. Or like I said, just move the TB folder on your memory card to your One's internal storage. Like I said, I don't have experience with cloud backups for TB or Nandroid, so Google or someone else would get you a better answer than I can give you.
After reading about the problem people have with video playback the latest OTA versions"IN: 11.0.6.7.KB05DA ; EU: 11.0.6.8.KB05BA ; NA: 11.0.6.7.KB05AA "
I want to ask what is the best way to backup as much data as possible before updating in case I need to wipe and downgrade later. On my older phones when I was rooted I would just fire up TWRP and take a nandroid backup before updating. If any problems I would just restore that.
What is the best alternative without root? Adb backup? and manual sync/copy of photos and stuff to the cloud/my computer. I read about adb backup that not working properly for some people and possible being deprecated in the future.
One of the reasons I got the 10+ was for the SD card slot. I use the SD card like a data drive. The internal memory is for the OS, programs and to temporarily store downloads (to check for malware).
Samsung's also have Smart Switch to back up settings data, apps, etc. That backup copy is also on the SD card (haven't tested it yet).
Right now I can do a complete reload with little or no internet connection and be good to go in about 2 hours.
You can use external memory instead though. Cloud crap takes too long, same with Playstore.
Use ApkExport to copy all your apps and updates then load directly from those copies.
Save all critical data on the external hd. Make sure your bookmarks are recoverable. Any app that allows you to backup their settings, do so and add those as well.
Make sure you copy your contacts and text messages.
I keep master folders on my phone for documents, music, vids, dcim by year, etc that match to those stored in my laptop which serves as a secondary backup to my SD card. Keep at least two backup copies and store in separate locations. Ideally one should be completely off line and stored in a earth grounded metal box.
Hdds are preferable to flash memory.
Workout a plan within the limitations of your device and software before you need it.