Will I lose my warranty, if i install this JB (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007402&page=8&nocache=1) to my p3110?
for example, if something will be bad, and i will want to take it for warranty with that rom, everything will be ok?
sorry, if i do some mistakes - my english is not very good.
If you're French and install through official channels (i.e. via Kies) then I imagine your warranty will remain intact.
If you're not French and/or you install via Odin then you will probably lose your warranty.
For what it is worth I'm not French, but I installed the new 4.1.1 firmware via Mobile Odin and I'm perfectly happy with it. Yes, I've probably lost my warranty, but that doesn't bother me too much.
If you need the warranty you flash the firmware of the site were you live and then you send the tab to sat.
Yes, if you need to send to repair. My P3110 is still under warranty, the original stock rom is 4.0.4. Nowadays I am using offical stock 4.1.1 french version and if need use the warranty I will have to reflash it back. Also, I have to zero count the firmware counter with "triangle away", until now I have flashed a lot with no problems at all, using a lot of cm10 flavors. You just need to learn what to know and avoid mess up everything.
Good luck!
The danger with the flashing back approach is that you assume you will always be able to access your device to flash back to stock and reset counter prior to return.
However, if your warranty repair is needed because the thing has broken then you may well not be able to flash it back to stock...because it is broken.
Flashing by unofficial means is always a risk, but if you know what you're doing then the risk is reduced (but not entirely eliminated).
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Hello,
I'm returning my phone tomorrow to a repair center for my display problem. However I can't seem to find a flashable STOCK (EU) ROM (.zip). Only the .exe which can't be flashed. I don't really want to unroot my phone because the risk of bricking, but an standard ROM would be kinda helping.
Any idea's?
Thanks.
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Sending in your phone with s-off would render your warranty useless. Unless of course it's a third party shop, which I don't think you need a stock rom?
Nevermind, i completly put it back to stock with S-ON. Thanks for the heads up, this is a better idea.
Hey, I have a question about TempRooting my phone. I dont want to root my phone because i dont want to void my warranty. But, I want to do a few things with my software that require root access. For example, I want to install a CRT animation on my phone which, of course, required root access. Basically what my question is, is if I temproot my phone and modify a few things like installing CRT animation, will it void my warranty? I know TempRooting will not void the warranty, but Im curious as to if installing a CRT animation will void the warranty. Also, if I do it, will i still be able to receive the OTA updates via wifi? Thanks guys
Temptooting Voids your warranty, Dunno where you heard that it doesn't.
Mod it. Thats all I have to say
Using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591601 will put you back to stock COMPLETELY. Tmobile can't tell. I got a HD2 with windows mobile on it and flashed android on it. Yea, a completely different OS. Found some hardware issues (was a refurbished phone) restored back to stock using a similar technique and sent it back to Tmo. They have never contacted me or ever asked me about it. My friend also had text messaging problems on his Exhibit. We rooted and flashed CWM and a new rom to see if it fixed and ended up restoring back to stock and getting a different phone. There is also a way to edit the flash counter though I do not know where to find one for our phone atm.
so basically if I temproot my phone, mod the hell out of it, im good to go? and if i ever need to take it in to Tmobile or if i want to upgrade to 4.0 when the OTA comes out, i just follow that guide and everythings all good? and your sure that its legit and it works? i dont really trust one-click programs
You are always taking a risk if you root. Period. But I have sent rooted phones in to be returned without issue and if you return to stock as described in the post you will be able to get the update.
Hey, I just read a post on XDA describing why its okay to root your device, according to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty act. It says that a company has to prove that you broke your phone by rooting it if there is a problem with it, and its under warranty. Is it really true?
Hey guys. Currently ruling this up on my S3.
I am in the market for a tablet...currently I have the transformer infinity. The sluggishness of the tablet really gets to me...so I was looking into this particular one.
I'm curious about warranty void issues. My Asus has to be unlocked which completely voids the warranty forever to install any type of custom ROM. Is that the case with this one? I know my S3 can be re locked and stock firmware flashed via Odin in case of the warranty claims.
Also performance wise...any sluggishness or anything? Thanks guys!
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All devices if rooted will lose its warranty as far as uprooting it I think it can be done but not sure there are some threads on that but you only root it if you are not happy with the original rom or are a developer the Samsung original rom is pretty good and with jb update even better unlike the same prime so you won't need to root ir
Its fairly easy to unroot and return to stock, just like your S3...
Sluggishness, with 2gb of ram?!!
Are you serious, this thing flies... With the new JB release it is blazingly quick... No sluggishness at all, remember it is made to run more than one app at a time side by side.
samir_a said:
but you only root it if you are not happy with the original rom or are a developer the Samsung original rom is pretty good and with jb update even better unlike the same prime so you won't need to root ir
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Sorry to say, but that is nonsense... I use the original JB 4.1.1 rom and I rooted my device although I have no intention to install a custom rom.
But there is a significant set of apps which require root as the implement functions which need root.
- Titanium backup (to make a real complete backup of the device)
- Renzhi safe/LUKS Manager or EFS (to be able to mount encypted volumes into the file system and use them as "normal subdirs")
- AdFree (to modify the host file in the system partition to easily block unwanted ad sites on system level)
- BetterBatteryStats (to get proper usage stats)
and so on.
So there are many reasons to root the device.
As the original rom can be reapplied easily via Odin, I do not see the warranty problem. And in Germany, I doubt that a warranty case can be denied if there is a hardware failure. Of course, if you brick the device during rooting, that's bad luck.
yes I agree if you only root and use the stock rom it does not do any harm, but I still prefer not to do that because I think again correct me if I am wrong I will end up losing all my apps and data if I unroot or install another rom
Consider yourself corrected...
Depends upon a few things... Unrooting will not get rid of your apps and settings... It simply removes the files that allow it to be rooted. And if you simply root your stock rom it's easy to unroot (through su app to then reflash the stock recovery, nothing of which will delete anything you've done to your tab.
ROMs on the other hand are a whole different ballgame.... Though I have found that using the same rom version (jb - jb) doesn't always reset back everything either...
Hi I'm gonna root my phone using a file which can do it with stock recovery i just wanted to ask does it void my warranty?
How the company can understand that my warranty void?
does flashing a stock rom void my warranty?
how about insurance?
thanks in advance
warranty void
Any rooting will void warranty.
Samsung would know it if you do send it in rooted for claims purposes.
However root can be undone. Just flash stock rom will unroot your device.
Suggest you read, read and read for more info....
Good luck and happy rooting... :good:
I know how to unroot with adb or terminal, ... I just wanted to make sure how exactly the Samsung company will find out my warranty is voided?
also I read somewhere about this that Samsung has a file every rom that flashed will add a number in this file so the Samsung will find out if you flash a rom or not, in that case if I even flash a stock rom it will void my warranty! if not then nothing will do as i can flash my rom (as I have already a backup) anytime! Right?
I know the perception out there is that rooting will void your warranty but this is not necessarily the case. You can always flash back to stock. Rooting can't damage the hardware so if they try not to fix/replace failed hardware because of rooting you could probably due them. Most rooting/firmware changes don't touch the download mode stop you should always be able to flash to stock.
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sijav said:
I know how to unroot with adb or terminal, ... I just wanted to make sure how exactly the Samsung company will find out my warranty is voided?
also I read somewhere about this that Samsung has a file every rom that flashed will add a number in this file so the Samsung will find out if you flash a rom or not, in that case if I even flash a stock rom it will void my warranty! if not then nothing will do as i can flash my rom (as I have already a backup) anytime! Right?
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Okay... let me try to explain further to your question...
Firstly... I dont know how exactly Samsung will now if you are rooted or not... They must have some software or hardware to check that. I know that there is an app to check wether you are rooted or not. Maybe they use that app...
Secondly... my guess is you are referring to the flashing counter... Normally when rooted, this will be bypassed, so you can flash and reflash any rom you like, any number of times you like. (Actually, I've not seen this counter in my P6800... I might be wrong, but in SGS3 yes, I've seen it)
Hope this clarify further...
Hello all,
I've searched all over XDA and Google, to give me definitive answer about issue i am about to raise, i rooted and put custom roms on all my previous samsung/htc devices, and WAS about to do the same for my Note 3 (its a beastly device, and doesnt need modifications, however it has been a routine for me to root and put custom roms into any devices that i've used)
Now the issue is this:
Yes, i've read about KNOX security system that Samsung has implemented, which would trip a counter and supposedly locked the bootloader of the phone, i've also read that due to the e-fuse that has been implemented, my Note 3 internals could be damaged due to it (?), and also i wouldnt be able to go back to the old version/bootloader as it will be parmanently locked by Samsung if i flash using Odin.
Do take note..that my Note 3 is not under warranty..so if KNOX triggers, it doesnt matter for me , as i wont be going to my local phone shop or official Samsung Officials (there isnt one here in my country) if anything would happen to my device. However i do need to know if its gonna mess with my device due to the e-fuse.
My questions are these..
1) If i root it, using CF's method as i usually do..and will definately put Custom Rom in it...and that will trigger KNOX for sure..will it destroy the internals? say the MOBO..and the phone will be rendered useless and become an expensive paperweight (i dont have warranty, so no replacements)
2) If i use for e.g Omega Rom which released two versions, one, with 4.3 JB and one, with 4.4 KitKat...will i be able to go back and forth for e.g 4.4 to 4.3 as well as jumping to different custom roms with diffrent Android versions?! as i usually do with me previous devices
Thanks and i will definately delete this thread once i'm fully convinced that rooting , putting roms should be avoided or ''Since you dont care about tripping knox, go ahead and do it as ur previous devices'' kinda answer..
Truly Sorry if you guys come across this question already..i've searched for it and come to no avail.. this is my last resort. Thnks XDA and everyone.:good:
qilrfn said:
My questions are these..
1) If i root it, using CF's method as i usually do..and will definately put Custom Rom in it...and that will trigger KNOX for sure..will it destroy the internals? say the MOBO..and the phone will be rendered useless and become an expensive paperweight (i dont have warranty, so no replacements)
2) If i use for e.g Omega Rom which released two versions, one, with 4.3 JB and one, with 4.4 KitKat...will i be able to go back and forth for e.g 4.4 to 4.3 as well as jumping to different custom roms with diffrent Android versions?! as i usually do with me previous devices
Thanks and i will definately delete this thread once i'm fully convinced that rooting , putting roms should be avoided or ''Since you dont care about tripping knox, go ahead and do it as ur previous devices'' kinda answer..
Truly Sorry if you guys come across this question already..i've searched for it and come to no avail.. this is my last resort. Thnks XDA and everyone.:good:
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Firstly wrong section - should go to Q&A
1) -- Well you can mess up if you don't follow the right methods (not hard)
2) you can only be on one, if you use 4.3 BL you can't use 4.4 and vice versa... once you go to 4.4 you cannot downgrade back to 4.3 unless you have an N900w8
Generally, rooting/custom ROM's won't hurt your device, just make sure you have the right ROM/Kernel and make the proper backups if needed.
Disable Reactivation Lock, and read about backing up your EFS and how to get out of it if it goes mad (which it sometimes does at random)
I think Radicalisto didn't make it clear enough: I'm not aware of tripped Knox flag affecting anything else on the phone except for warranty and inability to use Knox software. Any type of phone issues would probably be due to user error, or loaded software, not the flag itself.
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Firstly wrong section - should go to Q&A
1) -- Well you can mess up if you don't follow the right methods (not hard)
2) you can only be on one, if you use 4.3 BL you can't use 4.4 and vice versa... once you go to 4.4 you cannot downgrade back to 4.3 unless you have an N900w8
Generally, rooting/custom ROM's won't hurt your device, just make sure you have the right ROM/Kernel and make the proper backups if needed.
Disable Reactivation Lock, and read about backing up your EFS and how to get out of it if it goes mad (which it sometimes does at random)
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Thanks for answering first of all..will defo hit the thnx button..
for the 1) i always make sure i read the instructions and follow steps..no problem there..
2) this one tho..is a bit weird for me..i was able to do it on my note 2..going back and forth 4.3 to 4.1.2 cus i found the 4.1.2 more stable..i guess for note 3 i cant do that anymore? even if use custom roms to up/downgrade?
thnx for ur time..and will take ur advice next time on posting it at the q and a section (still learning)
ON 4.3 you once you go to MJ7 Bootloader you cannot downgrade -- however you can go to ML and MK bootloaders and go back to MJ7 again.
For some reason Samsung blocked a downgrade to 4.3 from 4.4 (as the Note shipped with 4.3 no logical reason to allow 4.2 imo) - but if you choose to move to 4.4. bootloader do be aware it can be buggy on some devices (NEE region also Hong Kong notes have issues) - If you have a read around you will see the issues people are having and not having with stock 4.4.
There's plenty of ROMs for both bootloaders CM works on both and most of the Stock based ROM dev's have moved up to the newest NB* Bootloader from NA* - I flashed 4.4 day it leaked (the next hour to be precise and I have had no issues)
qilrfn said:
Thanks for answering first of all..will defo hit the thnx button..
for the 1) i always make sure i read the instructions and follow steps..no problem there..
2) this one tho..is a bit weird for me..i was able to do it on my note 2..going back and forth 4.3 to 4.1.2 cus i found the 4.1.2 more stable..i guess for note 3 i cant do that anymore? even if use custom roms to up/downgrade?
thnx for ur time..and will take ur advice next time on posting it at the q and a section (still learning)
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since note 3 came with 4.3 and currently latest stock is 4.4.2. even if u wanna go back to 4.3 from what i read around it is not possible. There are alot of aosp roms and stock rooted roms with all kinds of kernel build for both stock and aosp. Im sure if u were to follow the instructions given and do it diligently surely nthg goes wrong unless u overclock ur phone too high or flashing stuff which weren't meant for ur specific device then nthg to be afraid of. I sure glad i went ahead and root. Coz to me knox is a totally BS. all down to ur own preference. u like it u root it u use it. best is to keep reading different threads.
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radicalisto said:
ON 4.3 you once you go to MJ7 Bootloader you cannot downgrade -- however you can go to ML and MK bootloaders and go back to MJ7 again.
For some reason Samsung blocked a downgrade to 4.3 from 4.4 (as the Note shipped with 4.3 no logical reason to allow 4.2 imo) - but if you choose to move to 4.4. bootloader do be aware it can be buggy on some devices (NEE region also Hong Kong notes have issues) - If you have a read around you will see the issues people are having and not having with stock 4.4.
There's plenty of ROMs for both bootloaders CM works on both and most of the Stock based ROM dev's have moved up to the newest NB* Bootloader from NA* - I flashed 4.4 day it leaked (the next hour to be precise and I have had no issues)
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Okay..so i would only flash 4.4 roms when Im really really convinced that its time for KitKat..but as of right now, i can only play around with 4.3 roms..ok..understood. You've cleared my doubts man, thanks a bunch and i guess its time to root and flash.
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I think Radicalisto didn't make it clear enough: I'm not aware of tripped Knox flag affecting anything else on the phone except for warranty and inability to use Knox software. Any type of phone issues would probably be due to user error, or loaded software, not the flag itself.
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I did read somewhere, the e-fuse is like an internal bomb..if i flag it, some sort of ''internal parts destroyer'' would be unleashed and mess up my device. I guess its just a rumour...hopefully.
qilrfn said:
I did read somewhere, the e-fuse is like an internal bomb..if i flag it, some sort of ''internal parts destroyer'' would be unleashed and mess up my device. I guess its just a rumour...hopefully.
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If it's not humour, there's gonna be a lot of angry Note owners here on XDA -- Some tripped KNOX accidently lol - I wouldn't worry too much in all honesty.
I'm sure using cf root trips knox
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An e-fuse is just a silicon bridge on the processor that gets burnt out. Once you burn the bridge it can't revert back.
This is technically damaging the internal hardware BUT this is due to Samsung software doing this so I don't see how they can claim we have damaged the hardware.... There should be no other problems resulting from this....
First of all, many people already claim their phones had Knox flag reset to zero by Samsung service centers. Either they're all lying (why?), there are more than one e-fuse inside and Samsung can simply reset software to ignore burned fuse and check next one, or the whole e-fuse story is made up and not true. Personally I lean towards the last possibility, for 2 reasons: e-fuse is permanent so couldn't be reset and if they're using multiple e-fuses then it is not more secure than encrypted software code and also possibly e-fuse could be defeated from tripping: I believe e-fuse needs higher than normal voltage to be burned out (otherwise it could burn accidentally) and that voltage is probably coming on separate rail, I wonder what would happen if one would either cut this high voltage or short it out, just during flag tripping operations.
Secondly many people tripped their Knox flags already, if there was some side effects, we would know about it already.