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I am thinking about getting a new computer for school but I also want to get the xoom, and I am wondering if that would be redundant purchases? What I'm looking for is a tool to write essays, web browse, and play games on.
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There are simply things that a PC can do that a Tablet can't. If you want to play the really intense PC games, obviously a tablet won't cut it. If you plan on using programs that really require a mouse, a tablet probably won't work well for you either. If you plan on creating, editing PDFs, Excel (you can make Excel sheets on the Xoom, but it is cumbersome), Powerpoints (also cumbersome on the Xoom) you would want a PC.
In short, a tablet can't replace a PC yet. That being said, having a tablet is extremely mobile and does replace a lot of things that I would normally use a PC for. The mobility is the biggest attraction for me because even though I have a 4-5lb Tablet PC laptop, it is still heavy enough that I end up not taking it to class after awhile. And the battery life of most tablets blows most laptops out of the water. So I can carry only the Xoom around and be able to use it for the whole day, but have to carry the charger cable with me if I am using my laptop for anything over 2 hours.
But in the end, I don't think a tablet will suffice as your only option for school. I'd get an inexpensive Netbook (as long as you aren't a hardcore gamer) for things you simply need a PC for and a tablet (if you have money left over) for everything else. Truthfully, a tablet is luxury item. It can be a very useful luxury item, but for the same price you can get something that does more than a tablet.
I have an HP,mini and a xoom perfect combo also in college. I may write my papers on my net book but edit in class on my xoom. Either way you can type on xoom. More practice the faster. Plus you can have a keyboard
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I have actually replaced my 'desktop replacement' laptop with my Xoom.
Haven't touched it since I bought the Xoom.
I am a content creator and consumer. I still have the laptop, but haven't had to do any development work at home since I got this. I guess that would be the only time I really need to.
You can buy the bluetooth or a bluetooth keyboard for it if you are looking to type essays and stuff, but I find the onscreen keyboard in landscape very friendly to someone who can actually type correctly.
If they could get a Java IDE working on Android I would never touch another machine again.
Would there be an app that plays mp4 videos @ variable speeds?
I use the xoom all the time for excel and word documents for work, but I always pull them up on a computer before they're finalized because a) I cant insert an image into a spreadsheet, and I have a specialized header and b) the formatting often doesnt look right on a computer when its been created on a xoom. Finishing touches take like 5 minutes, but the software just isnt there yet for it to be a total replacement for documents. And I really doubt I'll see a Publisher port anytime soon but that would just make my year.
edit: just to clarify, I was in a similar position when I bought the xoom, but what I did was get the xoom for everyday use, and I went to best buy and paid $400 for a cheap laptop (which is still 2.3ghz, 3gb ram) for all my "extra" needs. My company said they'd pay for it as long as I kept it cheap as possible (their M.O.), so it worked out pretty well.
I use my Xoom for everything...if it cannot do it, I just remote into my desktop and do it that way.
Makes it awesome for college classes as I don't have to carry as much bulk of a laptop...if they only provided their books in a digital form, I would be in HEAVEN!
I have made the switch to the Xoom for my home computing. My computing habits at home have been browsing the internet, watching videos on youtube, and Netflix queue management for now
The default browser is awesome. I love Honeycomb's tabbed browsing, the only drawback is the keyboard. If you're going to write papers for class, I suggest you get a bluetooth keyboard.
To answer your question, I see the tablet a perfect fit class: taking notes in Evernote, using Quickoffice Pro to write class papers, and browsing the internet effortlessly with the default browser. And, it's easy to carry.
dont forget playing HD games when class gets boring
I've been hearing things about the Asus Eee Pad Transformer it looks like what I'm looking for. Any thoughts?
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I've been hearing things about the Asus Eee Pad Transformer it looks like what I'm looking for. Any thoughts?
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all indications are that its a good tablet. I'm happy with my xoom but I'd probably be equally happy with the transformer. I wouldnt personally use the dock but if a keyboard is your thing then its probably worth checking out. I'd lurk their forums a bit and see if any gamebreaking bugs pop up
I may be blind but when I looked for the forum I could not find it. Is it possible that their isn't one because it was just released a few days ago?
Edit: I found it I had to refresh my xda app
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Well tablets have much better battery life and editing documents and accessing Facebook, in my opinion, is just as good as on a Desktop... however the lack of SD card support and the lack of support on the browser( it's not reliable, flash is stable 88% of the time and to be honest all websites try to access their mobile sites because Google decided to be stupid and make the UA settings be Android and not Desktop). All in all, if you plan on doing work on this thing, you best know how to use a full on screen keyboard on a tablet, be patient with the browser, and most importantly, understand the limitations of creating professional like documents.
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It's great and I am enjoying it so much that I do not really care about Android! Does that make me strange or what?
Nope ! I have dual boot on mine, and never boot into Android ! I had a galaxy tab 10.1, was nice, but prefer webos
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I had a Transformer and got rid of it when I got my touchpad. I love the webOS!
the only reason I am using Android on the TP is because there are no PDF notation apps available (like ezPDF reader or repligo). One other reason is a note taking software with handwriting capabilities such as freenote+.
other then these two I am mostly in webos. the biggest reason being the poor battery life in android at the moment.
I'm in the same category here. I have mine dual-booted, but rarely EVER boot to Android. In fact short of Netflix & maybe a couple other apps not available on the HP side, I LOVE webOS.....even to the tune of buying a couple little apps from HP that would've had a free counterpart for Android.
Mind you, I'm still waiting for video to be fixed to make the ICS jump, but still.....webOS is entirely underappreciated.
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the only reason I am using Android on the TP is because there are no PDF notation apps available (like ezPDF reader or repligo). One other reason is a note taking software with handwriting capabilities such as freenote+.
other then these two I am mostly in webos. the biggest reason being the poor battery life in android at the moment.
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Dunno about PDF-notation, although I would think it's in Picsel Smart Office.
Handwriting apps are available on webOS. I currently use Doodle Pad. It's not feature-rich but not basic either. For 2,99 it's a great catch. Also, NuttyBunny is working on a feature-rich handwriting app. But there are a few more in the App Catalog, so that shouldn't be a problem.
I remember using my HTC Diamond and finally getting Android on it. Occasionally I had to boot back into windows mobile and I found the experience so disconcerting... Android seemed to just "behave" the way I wanted my phone to behave.
Now I feel the same way about WebOS. I boot into WebOS to use Skype and it feels like such a relief. I still use Android as my daily, but there is always a tinge of regret when I have to go back to Android.
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Dunno about PDF-notation, although I would think it's in Picsel Smart Office.
Handwriting apps are available on webOS. I currently use Doodle Pad. It's not feature-rich but not basic either. For 2,99 it's a great catch. Also, NuttyBunny is working on a feature-rich handwriting app. But there are a few more in the App Catalog, so that shouldn't be a problem.
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to me this is still a problem. Doing just the basic of doodling is not enough for me. the apps available right now in webos are just that. and if you follow the Nuttybunny thread it apparently has been abandoned.
and there is no pdf notation in either of the office packages either.
still waiting...
I love it too
Sometimes I seat back and wonder why WebOs is so under appreciated, I think the media has a big part to play in its demise (or is it?). Safe for the lack of apps, my TP simply stunning and I can say this because, I have Ipad, Iphone, and Galaxy note. But I just can't bear to sell my TP. I still hope it will not be a souvenir.
I agree. I still use my Touchpad on a daily basis. It's much easier to use than an Asus tablet I have.
Check the webOSNation forums, there's a PDF markup app in alpha or beta right now.
Beyond that, I dualboot, but only to run Ubuntu. Ditched the Android partition a while ago. Much prefer webOS on a daily basis.
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Love webOS but lack of apps
You're not strange for loving webOS. The interface is nothing short of beautiful and user friendly. The gestures make it that much better. I've got ICS loaded on mine and usually the only reason I spend more time in ICS is because of the apps.
When I registered my TP, I made the mistake of being honest and entering my actual location (Austria) when I opened the App Catalog. I don't know why, but I can't see any Paid apps and even the selection of free apps is pretty sad
But I've managed to get Kindle installed under webOS and Skype works a charm. I'm loving the fact I can use the TP as an oversized desk/speakerphone when I pair it with my DHD. The sounds quality in webOS is also pretty brilliant in comparison to ICS.
Like I said, if it weren't for the restriction on Apps for my region, I would be logged into webOS almost permanently.
Hello all,
What I want.
Everyone in my family has a android smartphone and uses the calendar for personal use.
At home we have a normal paper calendar for family things like appointments and stuff.
My thought was to use the tablet as a shared family calendar so everyone can see and add things no matter where they are.
Adding things to a digital calendar with just the touchscreen keyboard is a pain in the b*tt (we all have full querty phones).
So I thought maybe a stylus is the way to go? Just write stuff on the screen and it will add it to the calendar?
Anyone has any experience with using a tablet for this?
Use:
Share family calendar
Maybe a quick internet search
Budget:
Not sure (250,-?). A Note 10.1 with stylus goes for 450 euro wich might be a bit steep for the thing we will (mainly) use it for.
Thanks in advance for all the tips tricks and advice!
-Redeque-
Nobody able to give any advice or comments?
I'm not really sure about if you can share an app and its settings across accounts - I've never messed around with that functionality.
However, take a look here : http://support.google.com/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=37082
A Google account can have more than one calendar, so you could just make a "Family" one and give everyone all permissions or whatever.
This way, anyone could view the calendar from any computer or phone that supports it, too.
As for the stylus question, I don't really know. Have you tried SwiftKey 3 or a Swype type keyboard ? I was dead-set on having a physical keyboard phone, but didn't like the gimped specs that they all seemed to have - so I took a chance with the S3 - and after finding Swiftkey 3 I actually don't think I'd want to go back to a phone with a physical keyboard since I can type so much faster this way.
Maybe there's a writing-to-text type of keyboard. It seems likely. Here's one : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phatware.writepad . Don't know if there are others. Good investment if you don't like any of the digital keyboard options (Swiftkey 3 has a free trial, so you don't have to spend anything just to try it).
Ah, I see you don't actually have the tablet yet. Well, you don't really need a tablet for the calendar shared across all phones - but you could share one anyway for fun and to use apps that work better on a tablet.
If you don't care about it having the best specs, the TF101 is pretty cheap on eBay - and you can get it with the keyboard dock for ~$250. I have one and for everyday apps I can't tell a big difference between it and the TF700. I'd pick 7" or 10" first and go from there if you still want one. There are lots of tablets that still perform admirably or under $250 - and if you just need a basic stylus you can get one of those as cheap as $1 - there are nicer ones, but those will work pretty well anyway (got one free).
First of all thank you so much for this great reply!
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I'm not really sure about if you can share an app and its settings across accounts - I've never messed around with that functionality.
However, take a look here : http://support.google.com/calendar/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=37082
A Google account can have more than one calendar, so you could just make a "Family" one and give everyone all permissions or whatever.
This way, anyone could view the calendar from any computer or phone that supports it, too.
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I use the google calendar for myself but didn't thought it was an option since I have to use the onscreen keyboard wich I hate.
This get me to the following.
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As for the stylus question, I don't really know. Have you tried SwiftKey 3 or a Swype type keyboard ? I was dead-set on having a physical keyboard phone, but didn't like the gimped specs that they all seemed to have - so I took a chance with the S3 - and after finding Swiftkey 3 I actually don't think I'd want to go back to a phone with a physical keyboard since I can type so much faster this way.
Maybe there's a writing-to-text type of keyboard. It seems likely. Here's one : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phatware.writepad . Don't know if there are others. Good investment if you don't like any of the digital keyboard options (Swiftkey 3 has a free trial, so you don't have to spend anything just to try it).
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I tried swype but never got the hang of it. Feels unnatural or something.
Never heard of Swifkey 3 so I will try that. If that realy works like you said it does I am a happy camper.
I have the same problem with the phone specs as you mentioned.
My Xperia pro is the 'fastest' phone out there with the physical keyboard but it needs replacing soon but there is no alternative atm.
I will install and try it on my xperia pro and let you know how it works out.
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Ah, I see you don't actually have the tablet yet. Well, you don't really need a tablet for the calendar shared across all phones - but you could share one anyway for fun and to use apps that work better on a tablet.
If you don't care about it having the best specs, the TF101 is pretty cheap on eBay - and you can get it with the keyboard dock for ~$250. I have one and for everyday apps I can't tell a big difference between it and the TF700. I'd pick 7" or 10" first and go from there if you still want one. There are lots of tablets that still perform admirably or under $250 - and if you just need a basic stylus you can get one of those as cheap as $1 - there are nicer ones, but those will work pretty well anyway (got one free).
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A tablet just seems to be handy with the larger screen. The phones work ok but browsing and calendar can be a pain on the small screens.
I have been looking at the TF-101 and it seems to be a great option for this. If swiftkey works ok I don't need to dock it evertime I use the calendar. The keyboard is ofcourse great when typing loads of text like I am doing now.
Going to test the apps and run it by the wife because well.........I am just a husband with plans and no authority. haha.
Thanks again for your effort.
[side note] Maybe the asus padphone would be great aswell but then with 2 phones and one tab. Sounds handy in theory.
I don't know about your use habits, but for Google Calendar, you can add/edit it from a browser on a desktop/laptop as well. I do this a bit when adding events/tasks to apps (I also use Astrid, a to-do list type app - also allows sharing between multiple users).
I like the "rapid" setting on Swiftkey 3 - I've been really impressed that it can correct most of the spelling mistakes I make as I type (and the suggestions it offers are usually good/time saving) - and with the arrows you can enable in settings, it's very easy to go back if you've made a mistake it didn't catch - no more trying to poke just the place I put in a wrong letter. The Asus keyboard on the TF101 is actually pretty good at making suggestions for words, though it's not as good at making corrections.
On the 10" tablet, typing on the screen is a bit more natural, too - you're not limited to just two thumbs.
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I don't know about your use habits, but for Google Calendar, you can add/edit it from a browser on a desktop/laptop as well. I do this a bit when adding events/tasks to apps (I also use Astrid, a to-do list type app - also allows sharing between multiple users)
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I used to use the Google calendar on my phone and manually add all of our home appointments in it with my computer. Just a pain in the ass to keep it up to date. Kinda stopped using it now because of that. But I really need it because of constant brain farts. That's how I thought if this. Astrid seems great a great tool to assist my brain so will definitely try that.
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I like the "rapid" setting on Swiftkey 3 - I've been really impressed that it can correct most of the spelling mistakes I make as I type (and the suggestions it offers are usually good/time saving) - and with the arrows you can enable in settings, it's very easy to go back if you've made a mistake it didn't catch - no more trying to poke just the place I put in a wrong letter. The Asus keyboard on the TF101 is actually pretty good at making suggestions for words, though it's not as good at making corrections.
On the 10" tablet, typing on the screen is a bit more natural, too - you're not limited to just two thumbs.
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So far I am quite impressed. Typed this whole post with it and going ok but have to get used to it though. Might open a whole lot new world. I love the costumisation of the app. Lots of settings. Great tip!
Now I am not sure what I want anymore. Asus seems great with the keyboard dock and all. Easy for writing emails and stuff. We need 2 new computers so maybe just buy one that is killer and then a tablet like the Asus.
Brain is killing me again
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Just wanted to give an update.
Bought a transformer prime TF201 with keyboard dock.
Installed 'switchme' on it so my wife and I have a seperate acount.
Must say that it works like a charm.
Using swiftkey3 when not on the dock and I love. Great advice!
Google calendar is shared and that also work great.
Install the app 'calendar pad' to use the google calendar and it's great on the 10.1 tablet.
I ordered a slim case with a stylus for the prime just to test it out.
So far so good. Thanks for convincing me in buying a tablet toy.
Wife already told me she hates you because I have no more time for her
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Hey guys I have done nothing but read up on the Nexus 10 and the note. I'm a fifth grade special ed teacher and documenting is a huge part of my job . On a daily basis I have to record observations on trials of students goals during class. . .
Another part of my job could be using this tablet to have a station where students could use the tablet to do an educational app or to write or draw to show me they understand something.
As a teacher and as a special ed teacher I am constantly in meetings on students and need to be able to keep a tight schedule and take notes during meetings.
Lastly I am also taking graduate classes and am constantly asked to read and what not.
I would love to hear an unbiased opinion or as unbiased as possible on if the Nexus 10 could function for me. For example how does a stylus work well taking notes on a Nexus, is it realistic to think you could use the onscreen keyboard to take notes . I would love to hear opinions on all of this and I thank you in advance.
I love devices and definitely appreciate them, it's hard to ignore the specs and stuff of the Nexus 10 ...
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I have not used a nexus but I can tell you for sure then no other android tablet will come even close to Note when you are using for task dependent to stylus which include note taking
believe m it is the best if you are using it for note taking and similar task....
It could work but not nearly as well. I owned the nexus 10 for a while but sold it within a week of playing with a note because I realized how perfect it was for me as a student.
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One thing you may want to consider is as a teacher if you video/voice record/take notes, pictures ect. you may want to push these things to an sd card. Storage room can become a factor, you may also want to organize things in specific ways on seperate cards. The nexus does not have an sd slot however the note 10.1 does. There is nothing on the market including the dell xt3 tablet pc which I own a few of, that can beat the stylus on the note although palm rejection works better on xt3 but it runs about 2 grand.
Yea definitely could be an issue. . Especially if I'm consistently saving pictures of student work
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I know the , " pure android" enthusiasts will disagree however, I appreciate all the little extras that touch wiz adds. don't forget split screen abilities and floating apps. throw in the formula recognition with the wolfram database. all the nexus 10 has over the note 10.1. is a power/cpu hungry, albeit, gorgeous display. a chapter price tag, and more timely updates. IMO.
Well I used to be one of those pure guys when I was stuck on early ginger bread in my droid x. But I have a Samsung s3 and no matter what room I install I always come back to a clean touch whiz Rom.I really like both experiences but I have loved tw compared to old moto blur
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I'm a student and my note is perfect for notes, documents and stuff like that
Also the multiwindow function makes getting info from the browser and writing it down or any other apply to that fact so effortless
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote/note_10.1/videos.html?type=find
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So like i said if you are looking at task such as note taking and other related to that then nothing will beat note
Another reason you might prefer the Samsung model over Nexus is the S-Note app, you can launch it fast with a double tap using the S-Pen and you can integrate the student's work into special folders that you sync with Google Docs. It let's you integrate voice and photos and I believe the latest version allows video as well.
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Nice that's what I'm talking about. Good info. All of it
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I was initially just looking for an android tablet. I purchased a little before the Nexus 10 was out, but expected it to be coming soon. The note's screen res put me off, but the sdcard, ram etc appealed to me.
I have no regrets just for that functionality.
However the big surprise I got was the "s-pen". I never thought I'd use it much but now it's used constantly on my device for note talking. I take it to personal appointments (bank, estate agents), for a snag list (sorting out property to sell), taking notes on phone calls (every day at work), same in face to face meetings. It's purely phenomenal and really does REPLACE paper and pen, something an app with a tablet keyboard just can't manage.
With your starting point being that taking notes is a core function I'd strongly urge going with the note....
Bought it.just had my first day at shoo with it.used it for meetings and loved it once I worked it out. I'm still learning the little nuances and just ordered a case.. thanks for all the help guys
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Bought it.just had my first day at shoo with it.used it for meetings and loved it once I worked it out. I'm still learning the little nuances and just ordered a case.. thanks for all the help guys
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welcome to the club! enjoy!
I'm a teacher too.
I bought the GNote 10.1 on september and I'm still learning about it for its better usage.
I really think that it has a huge potential (especially for teaching).
Main points are
The S-Pen: to take handwritten notes and to plan your lessons with charts, diagrams and graphs.
AllShare Cast Dongle: to use the tablet as a whiteboard and project its content wirelessly on a screen.
The only negative side I see is that many apps are not yet fully well designed to exploit the tablet potentiality (i.e. SNote has many good features but it also misses some relevant points like selecting and moving part of the handwritten ink)
Anyhow I'm convinced that the GNote 10.1 is the way to go (for now) and I hope it will become sort of a standard for any future high level tablet.
Then, developers will soon improve and adapt their apps to this new standard accordingly.
For those not satisfied with S-Note have a look at Lecture Notes (which also supports voice recording in the pro version) as well as Myscript Notes Mobile (in the Samsung app store) which is capable to immediately transcript handwritten text into typed text.
With the Note 10.1, I do not need paper anymore and sensitive data can be put on an USB stick or I use EDS with Truecrypt compatible crypto containers (even mountable with a rooted tablet in the pro version).
I use it all the time
As a teacher, I hook it up with the SMARTboard via a HDMI adapter, use it for diagrams to illustrate things to students in s-note during intervention. I can even access SIMS and take the register there easily because of the s pen. I definitely recommend it. I'm not the only teacher in my department who uses it either.
Well I just finished my first year with it. I thought it was really helpful for both classes and my teaching. I used it a lot when doing fractions and when white boards were not available the kids seemed to love it. It was cool being able to make equal and fraction bars that the kids could use. I also got use to taking pictures of assignments and assessments I would also find things like fry words list and take a screenshot then have the student read the list and check it off as they go then just hit Save and use that as a trial. I thought it was really cool hopefully next year I will be even more used to it and we'll be able to document student progress better.
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Although it isn't here yet the Samsung Ativ Q looks to me like it could be a teacher's ultimate device.
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I have just stumbled on this gem. When I bought my first Android phone I was searching like crazy for something similar. ..it took about 3 years to appear.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice
It has 78MB so you will need an wifi connection.
Enjoy the best office suite on Galaxy Note series.
Hit thanks if you like it.
Looks good.
Cheers for pointing it out.
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This is an awful execution. It's basically a desktop application crammed onto a cell phone screen. The GUI elements aren't scaled for a handheld device, and the app is pretty much completely unusable for that reason.
On a big tablet, it might be great, and it certainly seems to offer a whopping load of functionality, but on a phone-sized screen it just doesn't work.
Not that I don't appreciate being informed about office suite apps, because I could use a good one, but this one is at least several iterations away from being useable.
They have not changed OO source code, they have just ported the desktop version. If you use the SPen then is the perfect app.
I have enjoyed using it. As stated, with the S-pen it is perfect.
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perfect porting
If you use an external monitor you have a huge boost in productivity!!!!