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my last g2x battery lasted like 4 hrs on a full charge what is the best way to charge the new one? do i let the battery run out then charge it?
When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
rashad1 said:
When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
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That's not really accurate. Lithium Ion batteries have no memory effect like older batteries so charging them from halfway full does not reduce the maximum capacity.
What happens is the phone needs to learn to measure the amount of mAh from the phone and recognize what battery % that means. By taking the phone through the full discharging and charging cycle, the battery drivers pick up on this and will better report the battery level. With a poorly calibrated battery, you do not get less battery, but instead you just will not see accurate information about the charge level. For example, my first discharge went quickly to about 10%, and even quickly below 5%, but stayed on for hours between 5% to eventually shutting off.
The battery still will not die faster, but my phone thought it was much lower than it was, giving it the appearance of dying faster. Point is, you can do the charge/discharge cycle whenever, not just the first time, and it won't effect your long term battery health.
1) do factory reset
2) drain completely
3) charge completely
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thanks everyone for your advice!
I think it really depends on who you ask. lol Some people will say let it drain first then charge it fully. I have read info on battery maker sites that suggest when you get their battery that you let it charge fully for at least 8 hours, then let it discharge fully. They say to do this the first 5 charges to increase battery life.
When I get a new phone or battery that's what I do. as soon as I get it I charge it up overnight, then let it discharge completely for the first 5 charges. I can only speak by my experience and my experience tells me it makes a difference. Here is my reasoning: me and my ex gf went one day to get new phones. We got the same phone. She started using hers as soon as we left the store. I waited. I charged it up overnight fully and did the conditioning procedure. Our phones were pretty much mirrors of each other app and software wise. Her battery would die out a couple of hours before mine. Battery usage also didnt report any HUGE differences in consumption .
Also every once and a while I go into Clockwork recovery and wipe battery stats(after it's been fully discharged) and re do the conditioning process. It might just be a mental thing, but for me this seems to work
supposedly from htc.....
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well
I heard/read somewhere that you should never let a lithium ion battery fully discharge. It supposedly shortens its lifespan every time you fully discharge it. Instead, you are suppose to just top it off and not let it remain on the charger, for extended periods of time, once its reached a full charge. YMMV
*Omnipresent* said:
I heard/read somewhere that you should never let a lithium ion battery fully discharge. It supposedly shortens its lifespan every time you fully discharge it. Instead, you are suppose to just top it off and not let it remain on the charger, for extended periods of time, once its reached a full charge. YMMV
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This is "more" true for everyday normal usage. Yes, you shouldn't constantly fully charge and fully discharge every time you use your phone. But for battery calibration it is necessary/beneficial.
I also hard that during the first charge after turning the phone off you have to strange on your head for ten minutes, then only use your left hand for the rest of the day and you will double your battery life
rashad1 said:
When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
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Well I did it this way too. I get good batt
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Hello everybody,
to begin with i must say that my phone's battery used to take 2 to 3 hours max to charge from wall charger but now since i flashed the ROM and it has been acting so weird when charging. I have monitored the charging time and found that
after 1hr the battery goes to 50 %
after 3 hrs its up to 70%
after 5 hrs its up to 89%
then after being on charge for 6 hrs its fully charged !!!
p.s the battery lasts the normal time it used to.
so what's going wrong here?
your help is much appreciated!
You're using the same charger right? I believe aftermarket chargers are slower and suck!
KAwAtA said:
You're using the same charger right? I believe aftermarket chargers are slower and suck!
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Yes its the same original charger!!
The only suggestion I have now is to double check if it's really because of the rom?
Try using another rom for a day or so and see if it also takes you that long to recharge. Don't restore apps or anything yet either! (could be an app causing it, however that's unlikely) Mine only takes long to charge if I'm using too much stuff while charging it.
It is normal. Charge voltage is lowered when reaching 70% (or 80%, you can check it at battery stats) and then even lower when almost full until it is really 100%, not to harm the battery pack. Your previous cycles only semmed faster, the more you use your phone the better your battery stats will be.
If you wiped battery stats before, it could be another reason for strange figures.
Most importantly, if you want to have a good battery life on the long run, dont fully discharge/charge it.
So my maxx will drain to 1% battery in about 3 days with 3 hours screen time. The thing is once I hit 1% it can stay on 1% and not shut off for hours. Right now its been on 1% for about 7 hours, I have a youtube video going just to see how much longer it will go. Its been playing a youtube video now for about 20 min on 1%.
I just got this phone last week, is this because the system hasn't fully calibrated the battery? Or is the battery defective in some way? Its kind of annoying because you think you are out of battery but it keeps going so I don't really know how much battery I have.
Definitely not normal. I'd do a factory reset to eliminate a software issue and if the issue persists seems like it must be a hardware issue, exchange it
These sound like calibration issues. Can you fully charge your battery and then leave in on the charger for awhile -- like an hour or more? That should calibrate it correctly.
I have never nor will ever let my battery get that low. These batteries don't like to be drained and then fully charged it's not healthy for the battery. I don't let my battery go below 30 to 40 percent if I can help it. Most of the time I let it get to about 50 percent then I charge it.
bigv5150 said:
I have never nor will ever let my battery get that low. These batteries don't like to be drained and then fully charged it's not healthy for the battery. I don't let my battery go below 30 to 40 percent if I can help it. Most of the time I let it get to about 50 percent then I charge it.
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not to be rude but where is you information or evidence backing your statement? this goes against everything i know and i certainly always allow my battery to fully die then i fully charge it over night while it is off, i believe charging at 40 percent fools the battery into thinking that is the end of the battery's daily life span and therefore dying prematurely due to it believing that 40 percent is the end.
I do not have any real evidence except i've gotten exceptional battery life with my Ultra after allowing a full cycle (draining all the way and then fully charging while powered down)...i have gotten just under 32 hours with 4 hours and some odd minutes screen on with about an hour of voice calls and random other usage such as tapatalk browsing, internet, texting and maybe some email or youtube....i occasionally play some games like the new CoD Strike Force
ahjee said:
not to be rude but where is you information or evidence backing your statement? this goes against everything i know and i certainly always allow my battery to fully die then i fully charge it over night while it is off, i believe charging at 40 percent fools the battery into thinking that is the end of the battery's daily life span and therefore dying prematurely due to it believing that 40 percent is the end.
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The best source is battery university. Here are a few good links. In the first, look at the third column (Li-ion), as that's the battery pack in the Maxx/Ultra/Mini
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
From the second link (emphasis mine):
Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The shorter the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine; there is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life, other than to calibrate the fuel gauge on a smart battery once in a while.
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doogald said:
The best source is battery university. Here are a few good links. In the first, look at the third column (Li-ion), as that's the battery pack in the Maxx/Ultra/Mini
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
From the second link (emphasis mine):
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And boom! All the I have known through all the androids I have has been wrong lmao. I really appreciate you posting this....all the years of trolling forums and reading what everyone is doing or have done to get their battery to last long for a daily cycle...appreciate this.
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So happy I seldom charge up to 100% and leave it sit. I also never let it get super low.
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Coming from a Gnex, I have a charger within 3 feet of me everywhere I go. I'm trying to break myself of the habit of plugging it in but mine still gets a charge at some point during the day, if only in the car. It has always been my practice to let my phones run down almost to dead maybe once every couple of months. I feel like it keeps the phone's battery meter calibrated although I have nothing to base this on.
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Is the first charge on the Nexus 5 still as important as a few years ago? Or is the N5's Li-Ion battery not as sensitive as Li-Po batteries?
I always used to plug in a new before booting them up, charge the battery completely and then unplug it. When the charge went down to about 5%, I plugged it back in. I always did that two or three times and then - while still trying to do it like that all the time - allowed myself to charge the device for a few minutes only when it was necessary instead of plugging it in and leaving it at home.
Well, on the N5, I didn't manage that - I actually forgot to monitor the battery level yesterday evening before going to bed. This morning, I noticed that the battery had reached 1% during the night and the N5 shut itself down.
Of course, I did now plug it back in, but I wonder if I could have damaged the battery by letting it run down to 1% on the first charging cycle? Or doesn't this matter at all and it will still reach its full capacity after a few charging cycles?
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Is the first charge on the Nexus 5 still as important as a few years ago? Or is the N5's Li-Ion battery not as sensitive as Li-Po batteries?
I always used to plug in a new before booting them up, charge the battery completely and then unplug it. When the charge went down to about 5%, I plugged it back in. I always did that two or three times and then - while still trying to do it like that all the time - allowed myself to charge the device for a few minutes only when it was necessary instead of plugging it in and leaving it at home.
Well, on the N5, I didn't manage that - I actually forgot to monitor the battery level yesterday evening before going to bed. This morning, I noticed that the battery had reached 1% during the night and the N5 shut itself down.
Of course, I did now plug it back in, but I wonder if I could have damaged the battery by letting it run down to 1% on the first charging cycle? Or doesn't this matter at all and it will still reach its full capacity after a few charging cycles?
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I wouldn't worry about it, running a battery to empty is indeed bad but they don't allow you to run it to empty. It is programmed to show 1% and shut down before the battery itself is at 1% to prevent you from damaging it.
Use your phone, when charge is about 20% connect your charger and do not disconect until reaches the 100%.
This is what i have done with mine.
I have reached 2 days standby with about 3 hrs of screen on time.
Coming from a Nexus 4 I have got used to charging my phone every night. The battery on the z3 is a lot better, it comes off the charge at 5am and as I type it is 10pm and the battery is still on 66%.
Would I be doing the battery any harm by putting it on the charge every night? I know it can last me through work tomorrow but I like the have it fully charged for peace of mind.
finty said:
Coming from a Nexus 4 I have got used to charging my phone every night. The battery on the z3 is a lot better, it comes off the charge at 5am and as I type it is 10pm and the battery is still on 66%.
Would I be doing the battery any harm by putting it on the charge every night? I know it can last me through work tomorrow but I like the have it fully charged for peace of mind.
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Lithium Ion batteries last a number of charges, slowly losing the capacity to hold charge as the number of charges increases. Why don't you charge the phone when it needs charging? You can always use stamina mode to keep it going until you get to a charger if you need it to last a few more hours.
I believe its about 350-500 cycles to 80% capacity. Also when your phone says 0% Battery its more like 60% (Don't quote me on that) capacity to prolong battery life.
You should be fine for the life of the device.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
TL-DR - charge every night, don't worry about the rest.
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finty said:
Coming from a Nexus 4 I have got used to charging my phone every night. The battery on the z3 is a lot better, it comes off the charge at 5am and as I type it is 10pm and the battery is still on 66%.
Would I be doing the battery any harm by putting it on the charge every night? I know it can last me through work tomorrow but I like the have it fully charged for peace of mind.
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you should not be worry about battery problem in xperia because there 2 power saving option normal stamina and ultra stamina so you can take your phone for whole day usage even on ~60% of battery
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so is it ? or is it not bad to charge it every night? even if the battery isn't low
Standby is really good. If you go to sleep at 66%, it will likely be at 66 or 65% when you wake up. You might not need to charge till tomorrow night.
NiggZ said:
so is it ? or is it not bad to charge it every night? even if the battery isn't low
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You don't complete a discharge cycle, when you charge with some charge % left so its good to charge it, you are fine.
I charge it every night. It is between 40-60% full when i connect it. If there are some 350-500 charge cycles untill capacity drops to 80% then it is time to upgrade anyway so...
for lithium ion batteries in mobile phones just recharge as it suits your day. Yes, you might be able to preserve some single digit percent over the long run but there won't be any dramatic losses if you don't take special care