Hello everybody,
to begin with i must say that my phone's battery used to take 2 to 3 hours max to charge from wall charger but now since i flashed the ROM and it has been acting so weird when charging. I have monitored the charging time and found that
after 1hr the battery goes to 50 %
after 3 hrs its up to 70%
after 5 hrs its up to 89%
then after being on charge for 6 hrs its fully charged !!!
p.s the battery lasts the normal time it used to.
so what's going wrong here?
your help is much appreciated!
You're using the same charger right? I believe aftermarket chargers are slower and suck!
KAwAtA said:
You're using the same charger right? I believe aftermarket chargers are slower and suck!
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Yes its the same original charger!!
The only suggestion I have now is to double check if it's really because of the rom?
Try using another rom for a day or so and see if it also takes you that long to recharge. Don't restore apps or anything yet either! (could be an app causing it, however that's unlikely) Mine only takes long to charge if I'm using too much stuff while charging it.
It is normal. Charge voltage is lowered when reaching 70% (or 80%, you can check it at battery stats) and then even lower when almost full until it is really 100%, not to harm the battery pack. Your previous cycles only semmed faster, the more you use your phone the better your battery stats will be.
If you wiped battery stats before, it could be another reason for strange figures.
Most importantly, if you want to have a good battery life on the long run, dont fully discharge/charge it.
Related
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
good read as it seems many still maltreat their li-ion
acording to old ni-cam myths
Also, make sure you read http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde... revolutionary, comparative, numeric results!
I've always said this simple statement about LiIon: Charge early and often.
Do you need to plug the phone in every time you get off a call? No. Do you need to worry about it dropping below 80%? No. Just charge as often as is convenient. Sitting at a desk for a hour working on something? Charge. Driving for more than 15m? Charge.
I think if you obsess too much you might wind up with USB connector problems from all the cycles on the connector itself, but intelligent use of the above statement should get you the most out of your battery.
EDIT: Drat, replied to the wrong topic.
khaytsus said:
I've always said this simple statement about LiIon: Charge early and often.
Do you need to plug the phone in every time you get off a call? No. Do you need to worry about it dropping below 80%? No. Just charge as often as is convenient. Sitting at a desk for a hour working on something? Charge. Driving for more than 15m? Charge.
I think if you obsess too much you might wind up with USB connector problems from all the cycles on the connector itself, but intelligent use of the above statement should get you the most out of your battery.
EDIT: Drat, replied to the wrong topic.
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that would kill the battery life fast, yea u wont run out of battery soon but keep it up and ur battery is gonna die on u after talking for 1hr
Aznskill2k said:
that would kill the battery life fast, yea u wont run out of battery soon but keep it up and ur battery is gonna die on u after talking for 1hr
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er.......what?
i believe that you have to charge your battery all the way full then use all the power until it dies then you can charge it back again
but not sure
kevinutz said:
i believe that you have to charge your battery all the way full then use all the power until it dies then you can charge it back again
but not sure
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This is the exact opposite of what this article says.
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conditioning the battery the first time you get a new phone also helps, alot of us just charge for a while them use it. all my phones i let them charge for a full 24 hours right after i get them
My battery only last 6 hours
Ugh, why don't people read the article BEFORE they comment?
newarkhiphop said:
conditioning the battery the first time you get a new phone also helps, alot of us just charge for a while them use it. all my phones i let them charge for a full 24 hours right after i get them
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Ehh, doesn't the charger uncharge when the battery is full? Like a safety thing?
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Some articles say that one battery life cycle is used up everytime when a full charge is done. Other articles say that one battery life cycle is used each the battery is connected to the charger.
I have not seen one article that shows the truth with facts.
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kevinutz said:
i believe that you have to charge your battery all the way full then use all the power until it dies then you can charge it back again
but not sure
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No offence but I always found this to be stupid reasoning.
What if you leave home with a quarter full battery and you get caught in the middle of a natural disaster (earthquake as an extreme example) and need to keep in contact with rescuers after being stuck in a building for 2 days?
Personally, I always charge my phone/laptop whenever convenient.
black50z said:
My battery only last 6 hours
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The only problem that your battery lasts only for 6 hours is due to too much charging...So when you will buy a new battery then make sure that only charge your battery when it will remain only 10%...And try to charge your battery with phone switched off..
Charge little and often, try to avoid deep discharge/charge cycles.
Back in the days of NiCd batteries there was the posibility of memory effect where if you didn't do a discharge/charge the battery wouldn't hold as much charge.
NiMH batteries do not suffer this, but discharge/charge cycles were required because when they started being used very few people had smart chargers so had to discharge to be able to time when to stop without overcharging, and also due to confused information pulled over from NiCds.
Top up charges are better for them too.
Lithium batteries also don't have memory effect, and are better off with top up charges.
Ask yourself this:
What would stress the battery more; running 1A through it for 10 minutes or 1 hour?
Also, as the battery discharges, its voltage drops so the current drain has to increase to compensate, discharging the battery even quicker (remember how capacity graphs drop off quickly?)
Say your phone needs 2W to run, with a 4v battery that's a drain of 500mA (P=VI)
When the battery has dropped to 3.5v then to produce 2W it takes approx 571mA.
batt problem
how to keep my batt good?
I've always just charged my phones overnight while I sleep. Never seen ill effects. If I don't make it home that night my phone still lasts through the next day.
It's not like that battery is irreplaceable. Go get a new one if your battery is nearing the end of it's life. By then you would have probably moved on to a new phone.
Rudegar said:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
good read as it seems many still maltreat their li-ion
acording to old ni-cam myths
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skimmed a few parts, but thanks for the read mate, learned tons.
as others allready mentioned, there are many different suggestions how to take care of the battery. I usualy reload the baterry only if the capacity is <= 5%, without unpluging it before it reaches 100%.
thanks for the info!
Hey i flashed my device with the battery at around 80%.
after the flash it was 100%...
so this means i just lost 20% of my capacity? how do i fix this?
Imperium said:
Hey i flashed my device with the battery at around 80%.
after the flash it was 100%...
so this means i just lost 20% of my capacity? how do i fix this?
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I don't believe you have lost capacity. It's only your gauge that's slightly altered. If you recharge your device fully(and about an extra 30min) you should have the regular capacity
How could going from 80% to 100% equate to a lost ???
it's posible that you'd gained the extra charges while the flashing process was going on ( because it was plugged in ?? ) ... if it wasn't ... no idea why
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How could going from 80% to 100% equate to a lost ???
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If i understand the post correctly they are equating am 80% to 100% a loss for 2 reasons:
1. because he would have lost charge while flashing due to the massive battery drain.
2. because now he is stating that his 100% is really only 80%
but i would probably just leave it charge overnight and you should be fine, the gauge just sounds to be off, it shouldnt be a true loss (unless the battery is bad)
Is there any other way to sync the battery with the device? I been trying a full discharge then charge.
I am using a mugen extended 3000mah battery and at 15% 10% and 1% it will stay there for some time before it starts to go down or turn off completely if it is reaches less than 1%.
I don't think you've lost capacity.
I believe you just did a quick check before flashing (and it was already charging before you started right?), and the battery gauge wasn't updated. I had this a couple of times while recharging. I take a quick look and think "this is gonna take another half hour". Five minutes latter I check and the charge led is green again.
Sometimes the battery metter lags a bit, you have to check it again to be sure when charging.
At least it happens to me.
BUMP THAT said:
Is there any other way to sync the battery with the device? I been trying a full discharge then charge.
I am using a mugen extended 3000mah battery and at 15% 10% and 1% it will stay there for some time before it starts to go down or turn off completely if it is reaches less than 1%.
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a few cycles of full charge and discharge should put the battery meter in check...
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a few cycles of full charge and discharge should put the battery meter in check...
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Alrighty. I have done three so far. It has gotten better then the first time I got it. But its not perfect.
is it safe to discharge it to 0% so that it will shutdown? or what?
my last g2x battery lasted like 4 hrs on a full charge what is the best way to charge the new one? do i let the battery run out then charge it?
When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
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When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
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That's not really accurate. Lithium Ion batteries have no memory effect like older batteries so charging them from halfway full does not reduce the maximum capacity.
What happens is the phone needs to learn to measure the amount of mAh from the phone and recognize what battery % that means. By taking the phone through the full discharging and charging cycle, the battery drivers pick up on this and will better report the battery level. With a poorly calibrated battery, you do not get less battery, but instead you just will not see accurate information about the charge level. For example, my first discharge went quickly to about 10%, and even quickly below 5%, but stayed on for hours between 5% to eventually shutting off.
The battery still will not die faster, but my phone thought it was much lower than it was, giving it the appearance of dying faster. Point is, you can do the charge/discharge cycle whenever, not just the first time, and it won't effect your long term battery health.
1) do factory reset
2) drain completely
3) charge completely
thanks!
thanks everyone for your advice!
I think it really depends on who you ask. lol Some people will say let it drain first then charge it fully. I have read info on battery maker sites that suggest when you get their battery that you let it charge fully for at least 8 hours, then let it discharge fully. They say to do this the first 5 charges to increase battery life.
When I get a new phone or battery that's what I do. as soon as I get it I charge it up overnight, then let it discharge completely for the first 5 charges. I can only speak by my experience and my experience tells me it makes a difference. Here is my reasoning: me and my ex gf went one day to get new phones. We got the same phone. She started using hers as soon as we left the store. I waited. I charged it up overnight fully and did the conditioning procedure. Our phones were pretty much mirrors of each other app and software wise. Her battery would die out a couple of hours before mine. Battery usage also didnt report any HUGE differences in consumption .
Also every once and a while I go into Clockwork recovery and wipe battery stats(after it's been fully discharged) and re do the conditioning process. It might just be a mental thing, but for me this seems to work
supposedly from htc.....
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well
I heard/read somewhere that you should never let a lithium ion battery fully discharge. It supposedly shortens its lifespan every time you fully discharge it. Instead, you are suppose to just top it off and not let it remain on the charger, for extended periods of time, once its reached a full charge. YMMV
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I heard/read somewhere that you should never let a lithium ion battery fully discharge. It supposedly shortens its lifespan every time you fully discharge it. Instead, you are suppose to just top it off and not let it remain on the charger, for extended periods of time, once its reached a full charge. YMMV
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This is "more" true for everyday normal usage. Yes, you shouldn't constantly fully charge and fully discharge every time you use your phone. But for battery calibration it is necessary/beneficial.
I also hard that during the first charge after turning the phone off you have to strange on your head for ten minutes, then only use your left hand for the rest of the day and you will double your battery life
rashad1 said:
When you first get a phone, you should let the battery die before charing it. Then charge it completely after it dies, this will maximize your battery life. If you charge it right out the box, you're actually reducing the amount of juice the battery can hold.
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Well I did it this way too. I get good batt
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I go out at night mostly so by the time i leave the house my phones battery is about 75% full. I have the LG G2x. My question is sometimes before i leave i'll see that it's 75% full so i'll charge it back to 100% before i leave. Does charging the phone without it being drained damage the battery? should i just leave it alone next time i go out? sorry if this is already a thread just point me in the right direction.
Thanks.
You're not damaging your battery But if you never drain the battery completely, i'm not sure how good the battery will be after 6 month, so i recommend you drain it completely every couple of weeks.
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There are several opinions about keeping battery health for more time. Recharging at 75% is not one of them, but it's not the worth of it.
Here's what i know and what i've heard:
* some manufacturers (laptops) have software that don't allow the battery to charge when it's over 80 to 90% - they say it helps on battery life
* it's common sense that you should recharge when you have 20 - 40% and do a full cycle once in a while (this is what i do)
In my opinion, charging only 25% of the charge in a regular basis will not really help to keep battery life...
I've personally had the best performance from batteries when I let them discharge as much as possible and then charge them to full without interruption.
some have also said that draining the battery too often can also damage it, is this correct?
They like to be ran down then recharged but not all the way down to nothing unless you are having a problem with bat life on a rom
groe886 said:
some have also said that draining the battery too often can also damage it, is this correct?
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Yes. You should not drain your battery all the time. Use normally, charge it when below 40% and yes, charge it back to full - that's the ideal thing.
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Yes. You should not drain your battery all the time. Use normally, charge it when below 40% and yes, charge it back to full - that's the ideal thing.
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+1 that is the best way. Li-on batteries should'n be drained completly because it can shorten their life.
I read somewhere that it is not important when you start charging your battery (20%, 60%...) but it's important that it finishes to charge up to 100% every time
I heard/read that LI-ION batter is good to charge when cap goes bellow 30%.
I noticed this on my old S4 as well. 99% took the longest to charge up to the next %. Anyone know why this is? My phone was charging at 99% for like 15 minutes. I also noticed that using the phone from 100-99% goes very quick :laugh:
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I noticed this on my old S4 as well. 99% took the longest to charge up to the next %. Anyone know why this is? My phone was charging at 99% for like 15 minutes. I also noticed that using the phone from 100-99% goes very quick :laugh:
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This is perfectly normal. Think of it as inflating a balloon. The last 1% will be really hard and yet it will deflate as fast as the rest. It is not recommended to push that last 1% too often. Ideally you want to stay between 30-70%.
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This is perfectly normal. Think of it as inflating a balloon. The last 1% will be really hard and yet it will deflate as fast as the rest. It is not recommended to push that last 1% too often. Ideally you want to stay between 30-70%.
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Do you have a source for that?
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Do you have a source for that?
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He is correct some say 20-80%, best example is Samsung laptops, mine had an option in the bios of topping charge of at 70% to prolong battery life.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
Check out my recharge experiments: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/xperia-z3-battery-life-recharge-t2916773
I heard somewhere that is a solution so battery dont became overcharghed.
And what kills battery capacity is if it became static. There must be electricity flow trought battery to prolong it life time.
Your only supposed to charge your phone to no more then 70%?? First i heard. Never heard that before, Interesting.
Blaalad12 said:
Your only supposed to charge your phone to no more then 70%?? First i heard. Never heard that before, Interesting.
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I looked into the same thing last month.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4465051?tstart=0
When possible avoid frequent full discharges. Instead, charge the battery more often. There is no concern of battery's memory when applying unscheduled charges. A high residual charge before recharge is a benefit rather than a disadvantage for chemistry of Li-Pol battery on all iPads. The best way is to keep battery between 40% and 80% charged. After LiP battery of iPad is charged to 80% capacity it switches to trickle charging with a potential to cause plating of metallic lithium, a condition that renders the cells unstable. One more incentive to keep battery of iPad between 40-80% is the rate of the charge loss when gadget is not in use. The charge loss amounts up to 6% per year when battery is fully charged, but only 2% per year when it is half-charged. Nevertheless, short discharges with following recharges do not secure the regularly calibration needed to synchronize the fuel gauge with the battery's state-of-charge. A deliberate full discharge and recharge every 30-40 charges fixes this problem.