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[Q] How Scratch-Resistant is the NS glass?

Hey Guys,
as the topic says, I would like to know your expierences about the scratch-resistance of the Nexus S glass.
I couldnt find anything on the net about it, only some screen protector tests, which isnt the point.
So what do you think? Is the surface pretty sensetive, should I buy a screen protector?
Greets

No scientific test here but I've had my phone for nearly a month and keep it in my pocket with no case or screen protector. I have minor scratches on the plastic back but my screen is still flawless.

Yeah I´ve read alot about the batterycase and that it scratches pretty fast! Im gonna visist my girlfriend in UK and want to buy the Nexus S there. Its only available at carphone warehouse am I right? Do they sell the white version already?

Haven't seen the white version here yet and yes only carphone warehouse sells it in the UK.

I do not own the Nexus S, but as far as I can tell from the internet, the display is from glass. That means it is as scratch-resistant as any other phone with a glass display. Yes, including phones with Gorilla Glass. Gorilla Glass only prevents the display from cracking.
The battery cover, however, is another story. Plastic has it advantages (lighter, better if you drop your phone), but you'll probably get a lot of micro-scratches over time. No big scratches, just a couple of little ones.
So my advise is: don't buy a screen protector. If you really want it, go for a super clear one, like a Seidio USG Crystal Clear. At least they don't mess with the displays colours and with the feel of the glass.
But you may consider protection for the plastic back. You could spray PlastiDip on your battery cover, buy a case or keep your phone in a pouch.

The nexus s is very much sensitive to scratches. After having the phone for about a week, I noticed fine micro scratches. I'm very careful with my phone, so more than likely they came from taking it in and out of my pocket probably due to the rough fabric of my jeans. And no I don't keep any debris in my pocket while my phone is in there. My nexus one never developed those type of scratches and there were times when my N1 was placed in my pocket with coins! imho gorilla glass does make a world of difference when it comes to scratch resistance. The NS definitely needs a protector if you want to keep the screen pristine.
Sent from my Nexus S

princeasi said:
The nexus s is very much sensitive to scratches. After having the phone for about a week, I noticed fine micro scratches. I'm very careful with my phone, so more than likely they came from taking it in and out of my pocket probably due to the rough fabric of my jeans. And no I don't keep any debris in my pocket while my phone is in there. My nexus one never developed those type of scratches and there were times when my N1 was placed in my pocket with coins! imho gorilla glass does make a world of difference when it comes to scratch resistance. The NS definitely needs a protector if you want to keep the screen pristine.
Sent from my Nexus S
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I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....

If you get scratches with your Nexus S, and not with your Nexus One, then you are just being unlucky. Gorilla Glass has nothing to do with it. Besides, the Nexus One also hasn't got Gorilla Glass.
That YOU get scratches on your display, doesn't mean it scratches very easily. And that you're very careful with it, also isn't an argument: as I said, sometimes it's just bad luck.
Please, anyone who wants to know if the Nexus S scratches easily (the display), ignore those 'the Nexus S scratches very easily compared to another device' replies.

Mine has not scratched on the screen at all. I typically leave it in my back jeans pocket. The black plastic has very tiny micro scratches that can only be seen at a certain angle from direct sunlight or fluorescent bulbs.
The only issue for me is the creakiness of the back cover. Whenever I press down on the plastic near the bottom and top sides of the phone it sounds like its crying out in pain =/

Androyed said:
If you get scratches with your Nexus S, and not with your Nexus One, then you are just being unlucky. Gorilla Glass has nothing to do with it. Besides, the Nexus One also hasn't got Gorilla Glass.
That YOU get scratches on your display, doesn't mean it scratches very easily. And that you're very careful with it, also isn't an argument: as I said, sometimes it's just bad luck.
Please, anyone who wants to know if the Nexus S scratches easily (the display), ignore those 'the Nexus S scratches very easily compared to another device' replies.
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I'm not gonna go back and forth with you on this topic but I will say this..... Honestly, I can care less about what happens to your device. Who ever chooses not to use a protector on their phone is their business, not mine! What I offered was my personal experience and advice to the one who asked for our input. Ok, so what if the N1 doesn't have gorilla glass. Whatever glass the N1 uses, is different from the NS and I know personally what happened to my NS and what didn't to my N1. I'm very finicky when it comes to scratches on my phones. Not once did I ever have to put a protector on my N1. Luck had nothing to do with my NS getting micro-scratches. It's has everything to do with the way the screen was manufactured and what rubbed against it through my everyday usage!
Sent from my Nexus S

kenvan19 said:
I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....
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Quoted to reiterate the point. Glass I'd glass when it comes to scratches. Period.
Sent from 1.5GHz CM7 Nexus S.
EDIT: If you want a really scratch "resistent" (I say resistent because my wife is making me, I disagree) get someone to make a sapphire screen for your phone. Its common practice in high end watches and, as I own one, I can testify to its inability to scratch. I get quite a kick from taking some random very hard material and rubbing it against the face only to have it come out unscathed. The only issue that'd arise is if you scratched it with a diamond...then it would definitely scratch.

kenvan19 said:
I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....
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I don't know exactly where the scratches came from. They could've gotten there from a hard dust particle rubbing against it while cleaning my screen. The scratches I had weren't deep scratches. They could only be seen at an angle when light hit it....If you're definitely sure of your screen, why don't you bless all of us with an uploaded personal video of the key test?!
Sent from my Nexus S

Lol guys come down .
So just to make it clear, the micro scratches on yr NS are on the back or on the display? Display right?
The point of my topic is just, that if I buy a nice phone like this I would like to use it as clean as possible, means only necessary accessories.
I had the Galaxy S before and Im gonna buy the NS now, before all of them the Desire. The problem is just that u always have to wrap the phone with stuff to make it "safer" and then u dont really see much of the design, the nice look of the phone, but it seems like this is just not possible right now .
Anyway I baught a silicon case so far, is there a good cheap screen protector on ebay or a brand u know?
And before I forget, I read that the NS has a "anti-fat" layer, so there arent really fat traces on the display, is this right? Would suck if yes, because its really annoying and I wouldnt like to lose this because of a screen protector .
Greets

The scratches I'm speaking on are on the display screen.
Sent from my Nexus S

Robse86 said:
Lol guys come down .
So just to make it clear, the micro scratches on yr NS are on the back or on the display? Display right?
The point of my topic is just, that if I buy a nice phone like this I would like to use it as clean as possible, means only necessary accessories.
I had the Galaxy S before and Im gonna buy the NS now, before all of them the Desire. The problem is just that u always have to wrap the phone with stuff to make it "safer" and then u dont really see much of the design, the nice look of the phone, but it seems like this is just not possible right now .
Anyway I baught a silicon case so far, is there a good cheap screen protector on ebay or a brand u know?
And before I forget, I read that the NS has a "anti-fat" layer, so there arent really fat traces on the display, is this right? Would suck if yes, because its really annoying and I wouldnt like to lose this because of a screen protector .
Greets
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Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.

kenvan19 said:
Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.
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Then do a f**kin lighter test then. Rub that sh!t against your NS display screen and post the f**kin video lmmfao! Let us all see just how lighter resistant your NS is! That would be interesting to watch lolll!
Sent from my Nexus S

kenvan19 said:
Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.
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Thin? The phone or the screen protector ? Well well then I have to buy a screen protector , is there a good one ?

I've had my NS for over a month. It has never seen a case. It's been in pants with keys, in pants with an un-cased iPhone 4, in pants with change, in jackets with keys and change, in a courrier bag with keys, change, a sharp metal mini-hard drive enclosure and dropped onto pavement a few times. The screen is absolutely scratch free.
There is a TINY bit of visible wear on the plastic back - especially at the very top and the very bottom, which are the leading edges when inserting and withdrawing it from a pocket.
One thing that has not been extensively examined so far - the "contour" display on the NS puts the entire face under more compression load when static, meaning that it will be MUCH harder to fracture, and therefore scratch, for a given strength of glass, since compression is where glass is strong.
Also, here is a little lesson on Gorilla Glass and any hardened glass. They are chemically treated to better resist surface flaws by creating compression in the surface of the glass. For Gorilla Glass, Corning starts with already-more-durable alumosilicate glass, and then uses their proprietary treatment it to better resist surface fracturing by penetrating more deeply than "traditional" glass hardening treatments on soda-lime glass - this means that, while you can still scratch it, the glass won't fracture as much around the contact, so you won't be able to see it as much. All of this is available on Corning's website.
For points of reference, here are my last 4 phones, their relative abuse states and what I saw out of them:
NS - one month+, hard use including travel, abuse my 2 and 3 year old kids, my daily high-speed bike commute over cobbled parisien streets, etc. Zero screen scratches. Oleophobic treatment seems to be holding up better than Apple's examples.
iPhone 4 - 4 months hard use as a phone, 2 more moderate use as a super-duper high-end iPod touch. Several very tiny scratches on the screen, and numerous tiny scratches on the back, then the screen shattered in the pocket of my jeans alone sometime on a transatlantic flight. I replaced the front and back with the "acquired" real Apple iPhone 4 white components someone stole out of Shenzen and sold through a site in NYC. One month light iPod use since, no marks.
N1 - 5 months as primary phone, then a 4 month break, then almost 2 more months as a phone when, battery be damned, I could no longer support the crappy mail and chat on the iPhone 4. It suffered very heavy use and abuse, including NUMEROUS hard drops and falls onto pavement and stone thanks to kids. The metal frame around the screen is VERY beaten up, and the edge has even cracked slightly on the screen from the compression around the metal edge, but the screen itself has no scratches.
Milestone (euro version of the Droid, complete with Gorilla Glass) - primary phone for about 3 months, and it had a long scratch down the face less than a month after buying it. But in this case, I know EXACTLY when it happened. It was in my wife's jacket pocket, and she gored it with diamond ring.
Finally, I don't think that anyone really KNOWS what glass is used in the Nexus S except for Samsung (and their provider, if there is one). I know that the Galaxy S, Epic, Vibrant, Continium, Captivate, and many other Samsung phones do use Corning's baby. I also know that many other products use it without mentioning it. I know that the iPhone claims not to, but that it does use some specially-treated alumosilicate glass.

princeasi said:
Then do a f**kin lighter test then. Rub that sh!t against your NS display screen and post the f**kin video lmmfao! Let us all see just how lighter resistant your NS is! That would be interesting to watch lolll!
Sent from my Nexus S
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Better yet why don't I do a jeans test to see how stupid you are.

big_adventure said:
I've had my NS for over a month. It has never seen a case. It's been in pants with keys, in pants with an un-cased iPhone 4, in pants with change, in jackets with keys and change, in a courrier bag with keys, change, a sharp metal mini-hard drive enclosure and dropped onto pavement a few times. The screen is absolutely scratch free.
There is a TINY bit of visible wear on the plastic back - especially at the very top and the very bottom, which are the leading edges when inserting and withdrawing it from a pocket.
One thing that has not been extensively examined so far - the "contour" display on the NS puts the entire face under more compression load when static, meaning that it will be MUCH harder to fracture, and therefore scratch, for a given strength of glass, since compression is where glass is strong.
Also, here is a little lesson on Gorilla Glass and any hardened glass. They are chemically treated to better resist surface flaws by creating compression in the surface of the glass. For Gorilla Glass, Corning starts with already-more-durable alumosilicate glass, and then uses their proprietary treatment it to better resist surface fracturing by penetrating more deeply than "traditional" glass hardening treatments on soda-lime glass - this means that, while you can still scratch it, the glass won't fracture as much around the contact, so you won't be able to see it as much. All of this is available on Corning's website.
For points of reference, here are my last 4 phones, their relative abuse states and what I saw out of them:
NS - one month+, hard use including travel, abuse my 2 and 3 year old kids, my daily high-speed bike commute over cobbled parisien streets, etc. Zero screen scratches. Oleophobic treatment seems to be holding up better than Apple's examples.
iPhone 4 - 4 months hard use as a phone, 2 more moderate use as a super-duper high-end iPod touch. Several very tiny scratches on the screen, and numerous tiny scratches on the back, then the screen shattered in the pocket of my jeans alone sometime on a transatlantic flight. I replaced the front and back with the "acquired" real Apple iPhone 4 white components someone stole out of Shenzen and sold through a site in NYC. One month light iPod use since, no marks.
N1 - 5 months as primary phone, then a 4 month break, then almost 2 more months as a phone when, battery be damned, I could no longer support the crappy mail and chat on the iPhone 4. It suffered very heavy use and abuse, including NUMEROUS hard drops and falls onto pavement and stone thanks to kids. The metal frame around the screen is VERY beaten up, and the edge has even cracked slightly on the screen from the compression around the metal edge, but the screen itself has no scratches.
Milestone (euro version of the Droid, complete with Gorilla Glass) - primary phone for about 3 months, and it had a long scratch down the face less than a month after buying it. But in this case, I know EXACTLY when it happened. It was in my wife's jacket pocket, and she gored it with diamond ring.
Finally, I don't think that anyone really KNOWS what glass is used in the Nexus S except for Samsung (and their provider, if there is one). I know that the Galaxy S, Epic, Vibrant, Continium, Captivate, and many other Samsung phones do use Corning's baby. I also know that many other products use it without mentioning it. I know that the iPhone claims not to, but that it does use some specially-treated alumosilicate glass.
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Robse86, listen to this guy. He knows what he is talking about. A screen protector isn't really necessary. That doesn't mean the screen can't be scratched, so don't blame us when it does scratch. You should consider a case, if you don't like the micro-scratches that often appear on the battery cover.
Anyway, listen to big_adventure.

Screen protectors? Gorilla glass?

A long time ago I saw news for this phone that it uses gorilla glass.. is it true?
Because I just got the phone and the screen protector on it sucks. Thick, a bit fuzzy, and makes it less sensitive. I am seriously tempted to pull it off right now.
Has anyone gone without screen protectors? and how are your screens?

Gorilla glass or not, it's still wise to put a layer of protection on the display. It is scratch resistant but not scratch proof.
Am using a matte, anti-fingerprint screen protector and have no problem with screen sensitivity.

some say yes, some say no...
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HTC: [...] Desire S
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i would say yes

Last year while skiing I fell tearing open my jacket and spilling my HTC Hero onto the slope (unannounced to me) where it slid down the piste face down until a kindly Spaniard found it and returned it to me.
The body itself all around the screen had been ground away, but the entirely unprotected screen was utterly untouched.
Within moments of getting my Desire S up and running I had it knocked out of my hand by a friendly dog, it landed face down in gravel. Once again there was not a mark on it.
The only time I should have used a screen protector was on my old P800 with its soft resistive screen.
The moral of the story, screen protectors for capacitive screens are the biggest con in the world. Just don't keep your phone in a bag full of diamonds or anything.

DanAbnornal said:
Just don't keep your phone in a bag full of diamonds or anything.
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or sand for that matter. sand is tougher than gorilla glass and it WILL scrach your screen. id actually say you are lucky that your desire s was ok after that gravel fall

DanAbnornal said:
Just don't keep your phone in a bag full of diamonds or anything.
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with a bag full of diamonds who would bother with a scratch to the screen of the damn phone

titus1 said:
Gorilla glass or not, it's still wise to put a layer of protection on the display. It is scratch resistant but not scratch proof.
Am using a matte, anti-fingerprint screen protector and have no problem with screen sensitivity.
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Out of interest which protector are you using?

wow, that post and story makes me want to rip the screen protector off even more. other than seeing a lot of cracked screens, i havent really heard off scratched htc screens.
videos like this help too:
http://techielobang.com/blog/2009/1...-test-for-htc-hd2-feel-the-pain-video-within/
but i guess it's this paranoia.. one scratch will ruin it forever..

i disagree, i was realy carefull not to sscratch my phone around the house why i was waiting for my screen protector off ebay, but ive ended up with a hairline scratch on the screen. You can only see it at certain angles and when a protector on you cant see it but i would recomend a screen protector to keep it safe as the smallest thing can ruin it.

I'm a nudist. Trusted Gorilla Glass on my previous Nokia C6-01. And trusting it on the Desire S. I don't have a protector case either.

When I moved from resistive touch sensors (Windows Mobile) to capacitive (HTC Hero), I stopped using screen protectors. Well, it turns out that the screen doesn't scratch badly, it's very tough, but after months using it hairline scratches do appear, although they are only visible with the light at certain angle.
So I once again I use screen protectors. This way when it's time to sell my current device to get a new one, the screen is 100% perfect. And I don't worry much if I have to clean the screen with my shirt.

I just bought invisiblesheild from zagg.com. I also got a 25% voucher if anyone wants it? not sure if it includes all items in store
however the contact actually covers the camera and sensor/light which does worry me a bit. I was given a chinese brand one which had a dip so the film didnt cover the camera. but it was crap, but the design was better

amonrei said:
I'm a nudist. Trusted Gorilla Glass on my previous Nokia C6-01. And trusting it on the Desire S. I don't have a protector case either.
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Totally with you on the protector case as well. Why buy a beautiful slim phone and then make it fat and ugly by fitting a case?
That said, I have ordered a case but intend to treat it like a condom and only put it on when I need it.
That way, next time I try to impress a girl by falling face first down a mountain, my phone at least will remain unblemished.
C'mon people, liberate yourselves, take it all off! Your phone is a beautiful thing, don't hide it away!

Buy a sock... or some small bag. I don't really see any reason to have it packed when you are using it (if you are not playing sports with it).

Numline1 said:
Buy a sock... or some small bag. I don't really see any reason to have it packed when you are using it (if you are not playing sports with it).
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I find that the best advice for phone protection is simply not to use the device when you had a few beers (or several!)
I have two scratches on the outside of my desire s and both are caused by drinking related accidents! I see a direct correlation between phone damage and UK bank holidays !
Luckily the curved raised lower lip of this phone means that when dropped you have to be quite unlucky to scratch its face!

it sure has gorilla glass as you can find in the official site of gorilla glass

MarylandCookie said:
Out of interest which protector are you using?
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Just a generic matte screen protector

i found a test about the hardness of the screen on mp3 players i think it may be useful as i have seen many people asking if a screen protector is required
http://anythingbutipod.com/2009/04/glass-screen-durability-test-a-lesson-on-the-mohs-hardness-scale/
i myself use a screen protector as i am scared that sand may scratch it...
but mine does not reduce the touch sensitivity or the clearness of the screen but it seems to be a fingerprint magnet...

iv seen a hammer and a knife ....
ITS ALLMOST UNBREAKABLE Gorilla glass.
search youtube .... its there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjNm47eUXno&feature=BFp&list=WL2C734E80889271C9&index=1

lol I went without screen protectors for a couple for weeks. was very happy, the screen looked vibrant and sharp.
but lo and behold! today I found a tiny scratch. Probably my own stupid mistake, I put it in my bag without the case, even though i had a case for it in the bag.
but it's ok though. Not really obvious unless you try to look for it. when the screen is lit up, its pretty much nonexistent. Plus.. electronic objects will go out of date someday right

Will a screenprotector decrease the funcionallity of the spen?

Hi guys,
I am buying a sgn 10.1. But i was wondering if a screenprotector will decrease the accuracy and effectiveness of the spen.
Anyone some experience on this part ?
Cause i cant stand scratches on screens so was thinking of adding a protector but dont want the funcionality to decrease!
thx!

I don't think that it would, maybe at worst some loss in pressure sensitivity occurs (so you have less than 1024 levels), due to the 1mm or however thick the screen protector is.

l don't think you will lose any sensitivity because the pen uses magnetic inductance to operate which is why the pen does not need batteries.
l have a screen protector on my phone which is the small version of this tablet and there was no difference when the screen protector was applied. I am waiting for Samsung torelease their official screen protector in the UK for my 10.1 Note.

Don't buy Zagg or any like it
Just be sure not to buy a Zagg.
Bought one the same day as the Note at BestBuy.
Screen protector is so sticky you won't be able to use the pen at all.
I won't slide on the screen, and it won't register correctly.
It has nothing to do with the "cure" time, left the protector in for 2 days, same results.
Zagg is flexible and rubber like, will render the pen useless.
Buy a "static" type of screen protector, they are almost not flexible at all.
It's working perfectly now that I have it.
Under the "accessories" part of the forum you should be able to find several on Amazon.
Avoid ZAGG!!!

Wakez said:
Hi guys,
I am buying a sgn 10.1. But i was wondering if a screenprotector will decrease the accuracy and effectiveness of the spen.
Anyone some experience on this part ?
Cause i cant stand scratches on screens so was thinking of adding a protector but dont want the funcionality to decrease!
thx!
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i have an 8 year old writeshield AG protector on mine and it works totally fine. just that the AG makes the screen look fuzzier is all...

fishgimp said:
i have an 8 year old writeshield AG protector on mine and it works totally fine. just that the AG makes the screen look fuzzier is all...
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8 years old?

californiarailroader said:
8 years old?
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haha yeah, I pulled it off my tablet pc and cut it to size. it fits and works perfectly! i have one scratch on that thing after hard abuse and that was from dropping a knife on it
i regularly leave my keys sitting on top of the protected screen actually.
the back plate of the note 10.1 is terribly soft though, I have lots of micro scratches on it and I've been taking pretty good care of it.

fishgimp said:
haha yeah, I pulled it off my tablet pc and cut it to size. it fits and works perfectly! i have one scratch on that thing after hard abuse and that was from dropping a knife on it
i regularly leave my keys sitting on top of the protected screen actually.
the back plate of the note 10.1 is terribly soft though, I have lots of micro scratches on it and I've been taking pretty good care of it.
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Lol Now that is one tough mudder

I have the anti-glare screenprotector.
It vworks fine with the Spen, accept that the pen actually scratches the protector.... I think I need somthing stronger.
I tried to see if WhiteShield has one, but only for the Tab. I sent them a request message for the Note.....we'll see.
What is anyone else using, and does your Spen scratch the protector?
Thanks

fmf.post said:
Just be sure not to buy a Zagg.
Bought one the same day as the Note at BestBuy.
Screen protector is so sticky you won't be able to use the pen at all.
I won't slide on the screen, and it won't register correctly.
It has nothing to do with the "cure" time, left the protector in for 2 days, same results.
Zagg is flexible and rubber like, will render the pen useless.
Buy a "static" type of screen protector, they are almost not flexible at all.
It's working perfectly now that I have it.
Under the "accessories" part of the forum you should be able to find several on Amazon.
Avoid ZAGG!!!
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Try using the CLEAR spen nib you found in your Note 10.1 box on the screen protector. It should slide easier.

I only use screen protectors for wacom from strongengineering.com. Unless they have changed their formula the screen protectors always have a nice paper feel. I simply love it. You can feel and hear the resistance of the nib when the cover is brand new. After a time and a lot of cross hatching and drawing it smooths out a bit. This is my very personal preference. I can't stand smooth glass-like screen protectors for drawing.

My position on screen protectors is this:
With the quality and hardness of the plastic coatings on most decent Android devices in the last 3 years, a screen protector can only be a net *downgrade* in terms of scratch-resistance and screen quality.
Scratches (and often fingerprints) will show up more on a screen protector than on the bare screen because a screen protector is usually less hard than the screen itself. This will particularly be the case with a pen stylus (ie one with a fine tip, as opposed to a capacitive stylus) which won't scratch the bare screen (because it's hardened) but will over time create wear marks in a screen protector in "high traffic" parts of the screen.
Granted, having the screen protector means that once the scratches all over it get too much, you can just pull it off (and replace it). And that is indeed the point of a screen protector. But I'd rather not have dullness from scratch marks all over my screen protector to begin with. It's a bit like the people who have plastic covers on their couches so they don't get stained. It ruins the whole point of having a nice couch surface. Reminds me of the quote "life is not a dress rehearsal". You may as well benefit from your scratch-resistant hardened plastic screen now rather than cover it, saving it for a day in the future that never comes.
All that said, some screen protectors are better than others and there are probably decent ones around. And there's nothing wrong with having a protective cover on the *back* or edges of your device, since this isn't a crucial operative part of the device.
There's no possible way a screen protector can negatively affect the way the pen works, as it's based on an electromagnetic field. So maybe if it were a metallic screen protector it would be an issue. The "grippiness" of a screen protector could be a problem though. Some are grippy and some not. Grippy ones like Zagg will render the pen practically unusable.

Screen Protector vs. No Screen Protector

When I first got my first A2, the rep at best buy put on the screen protector before I left the store... (keep in mind that this is my first "smart" phone of any kind, let alone android) ..so, I had never really known it without a screen guard/shield/protector until I got my 2nd A2 (and, subsequently 3rd).
The 2nd A2 I knew was temporary because of a dead pixel in the center of the screen (and other signs of refurbishment), so I never bothered putting on a screen guard. And with my 3rd A2 and I still haven't put one on - I have a brand new Zagg Invisible Shield just laying there, but it been over 2 months... And, I gotta say I like it much better.
Now this can all depend on the shield you use, but without a shield, the touch seems more responsive, the screen crisper, it's easier to clean...
I have a nice case that is raised a bit on the topside edges to help protect, and I never put anything else in the same pocket as my phone...
I know it's risky, but don't we have Corning Gorilla Glass already? Can you scratch that? And I do eventually have a contract upgrade coming anyway..
Thoughts? Preferences? Keep your minds out of the gutters..

I had a screen protector when I first bought the phone, and I got annoyed with it. The screen was dimmer, but the screen was less prone to finger prints. I still have it as it's reusable, but I left it in the car in the Florida heat, so the layers of it are peeling off. My screen also jumps and stutters when it's plugged in and fully charged to 100%. I should probably buy another one to preserve the screen seeing as how I don't upgrade until May.

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I have a nice case that is raised a bit on the topside edges to help protect, and I never put anything else in the same pocket as my phone...
I know it's risky, but don't we have Corning Gorilla Glass already? Can you scratch that? And I do eventually have a contract upgrade coming anyway..
Thoughts? Preferences? Keep your minds out of the gutters..
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I have to agree with you. I personally was super paranoid about scratching my screen and so I put shields from various companies on my screen to help protect it. The screen guard got dirty and so I took it off, and I love not having the screen guard on because of the reasons you stated.
I am pretty sure our phone comes with gorilla glass, but it isn't invincible. I have a scratch on my screen but it isn't noticeable when using the phone just when the screen is off. But I guess just keep it safe in a pocket that you don't have anything in and don't have sand chillin' in your pocket.

I've had this phone for almost a year and I didn't start using a screen protector until a couple of months ago. For some reason the screen on this phone scratches easier than my Captivate. I keep them in my pocket but the Atrix 2 has accumulated quite a few small scratches near the bottom of the screen and around the buttons.
I would rather not use one, but I would like this phone to last a while, even as a back up. I've tried several protectors and I've settled on the Great Shield clear protectors. You can get 3 for $7.99 on Amazon and they install easy and are pretty durable. You can also take them off, clean them and reinstall them without losing any adhesive properties.

i had a anti-glare screen guard which i used for 6months and one day due to some expt i was doing on my phone with skins it got off. havent put one back, have just one tiny 1mm scratch which is visible only if you look at it tangentially. have to say the colors look more vibrant and the touch is more responsive (might be due to OC and cm10).
Anyways, i have a case with raised edges, same as altered described, and i take extra care of my phone now. but since im keeping this phone for another year n a half atleast, will definitely get a new screen guard, (maybe one without the anti-glare effect, if i find one) cause gorilla glass Is prone to scratches.

Real men dont use protection...
Stay classy.

Initially I didnt use any "protection" LOL, but had two tiny scratches on the screen. Yes, it does catch scratches easily compared my previous devices, I tried these 1. Amzer anti-glare, will be good for 1/2 months then you will hate it, 2. Amzer Mirror Screenguard, gave me migraine (literally!) 3. Right now having Xtremeguard on it and like it.
There are basically two reasons why I get the screen protectors, to protect the screen obviously and the screen without protector is too slick for my liking, that's just my opinion.

My first A2 went from release day to this September when it bricked and was replaced. In that time frame i had only acquired 2 micro scratches never had a screen protector on it nor do I have one on my replacement. Also the glass is coated it's that coating that is scratch resistant. Watch this
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-t...ass-drops-tests-composition-xda-developer-tv/

I have a serious thing against screen protectors and cases. I prefer my phone to be naked.
Screen protectors, no matter what you people say, make the screen worse in some way. The display is made to work well alone. They just all suck, and if you ever want it off, in a lot of cases, god help you, especially with self adhesive ones. They do however help prevent scratches, because you will just scratch the screen protector instead of the screen, so if that is important, you may want to consider it.
Cases, now this is just opinion. There is no doubt that they help prevent your phone from breaking, I just absolutely hate them. I don't like to bulk up my phone and make it ugly.
All that said, I take very good care of my phone. I have never dropped it, and I doubt I will, so there is no need for a case if you are careful.
P.S. yeah, gorilla glass is a joke, it still scratches. Just has a slightly higher hardness, and wont break as easy, but coins or keys will still do their job the same.

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Stay classy.
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Priceless!
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First up I feel like a dunce picking up that Skinomi worth 7 green skins sucks bad bad. Totally not recommended.
Gorilla glass is in iteration 2 of implementation so that speaks for itself about our ver 1. Plus there is no Oleophobic coating on our device. I invested a massive 20 + $ greenbacks on Otterbox and though no complaints with usability it sure makes the phone bulky and downright fugly. None of the screen guards last more than three months until you need to put a new one.
In India, given the extreme dusty atmosphere in cities, a small two hour ride in public transport coats the phone with dust. Otterbox covers the all ports with covers so that's good. In my opinion just a slip in/out elegant pouch is the best option. Screenguard I reckon is required. Wish 3M made the privacy screen protector for Atrix 2.

Using the LG V30 without a screen protector.

Anyone out there using the LG V30 without a screen protector? I've gone through two of them already. Neither has yielded a good result. The latest has the edge curving to it, but the glue is only applied at the sides and bottom. The top of the phone is open. As a result, I get tons of lint and dust between the screen protector and the screen itself. And off course, since there is no direct contact throughout the middle of the screen, touch response and sensitivity is horrific.
For this reason, I'm considering ditching the screen protector altogether, but I'm really worried about scratching this screen. Gorilla 5 has its shortcomings in this area. What's the experience of other LG V30 owners been?

Got mine in december and I applied the same kind of glass screen protector right away, with glue only on the sides. And of course, lint and touch sensitivity problems just like you... I got quickly fed up, after a couple of weeks I ditched the screen protector an got a nice case (VRS Design -https://www.amazon.com/Vrs-Design-VRSV30HPSSS-Shield-Silver/dp/B0768ZVXGS). No scratches whatsoever til this day. The phone fell once on concrete from about four feet on the corner/screen, no damage at all thanks to the case - I guess.
My 2 cents : forget about the glass protector, get a nice case with significant lip around the screen and enjoy how smooth the naked screen is.

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My 2 cents : forget about the glass protector, get a nice case with significant lip around the screen and enjoy how smooth the naked screen is.
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Agreed. Just don't put it in your pocket with your keys.
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Wolfsbane58 said:
Anyone out there using the LG V30 without a screen protector? I've gone through two of them already. Neither has yielded a good result. The latest has the edge curving to it, but the glue is only applied at the sides and bottom. The top of the phone is open. As a result, I get tons of lint and dust between the screen protector and the screen itself. And off course, since there is no direct contact throughout the middle of the screen, touch response and sensitivity is horrific.
For this reason, I'm considering ditching the screen protector altogether, but I'm really worried about scratching this screen. Gorilla 5 has its shortcomings in this area. What's the experience of other LG V30 owners been?
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I've had the phone since the end of December with no screen protector, and only a cheapo clear case that the retailer threw in when I bought it. I am a little rough in my devices as I work outdoors and the device is in and out of my pockets all day. It occasionally gets dropped or knocked out of the car mount. Not a blemish on it.
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This is the first smartphone I have not put a screen protector on. I did make sure the case has a lip (A Ringke Fusion).
So far, so good.

I never use screen protectors.
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Tried 3 different screen protector (ringke, ****ke and and other crap), never worked. So I am using it in case or many times in NUDE form because it has some beautiful curves, this phone

Same here, tried 4 different screen protectors then gave up and went nude. Best decision ever. I've had glass screen protectors on all my phone since they first came on the market. First time going without one.
Minor scratches will happen but usability, clearity and feel is SO much better that its worth it.
The only thing that bums me out is that the camera glass scratches easily. Heard its easy to replace but its stupid that its not sapphire glass.
I dont even use a case. Only have a black slickwraps skin on the back because i dont like the silver color. (Only silver and blue were available in my country)

I bought and use the skinomi matte screen protector and it works really well... In fact I got the same protector for the Note 8 as well.

I got a scratch on the first day that I got the phone, I don't know how or where but I did... That's why I always use screen protector, lucky for me I as able to buy a full glue when they were still available if I accidentally break it I don't know what will I do with my life.

I'm kind of different from others here.
Day 1 (August I think), I skipped the glass protector because I read from others on XDA that nothing was fitting right or didnt cover the edges of the screen. I put a plastic-like traditional protector on instead. It's been ok except for lots of grease and smudge buildup. I do have some scratches on the protector, but I wonder if they even would be noticeable if I hadn't had the screen protector on. The reason why is because of the plastic/rubbery texture of the screen protector. I feel like scratches would show up MORE on this protector vs the naked Gorilla Glass.
I'm really considering taking the protector off, but a little hesitant. Lol

I'm currently using it without the screen protector.
I've tried putting a plastic screen protector (wet install), and I've noticed it's soft almost like rubber, and also kind of sticky. After waiting for 3-4 days it remained too soft, so I just peeled it off. I haven't even tried any glass protectors after reading all of the reviews.
I mean, I would love if someone could suggest something that works well, and is $10-15 tops.
There is a whole thread dedicated to it, but the final conclusion is that nothing works except the whitestone dome which is nearly $50.

adsubzero said:
I'm currently using it without the screen protector.
I've tried putting a plastic screen protector (wet install), and I've noticed it's soft almost like rubber, and also kind of sticky. After waiting for 3-4 days it remained too soft, so I just peeled it off. I haven't even tried any glass protectors after reading all of the reviews.
I mean, I would love if someone could suggest something that works well, and is $10-15 tops.
There is a whole thread dedicated to it, but the final conclusion is that nothing works except the whitestone dome which is nearly $50.
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Um...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/accessories/diy-coverage-glass-screen-protector-26-t3751954

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Um...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/accessories/diy-coverage-glass-screen-protector-26-t3751954
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Yep I read that, but that's still a bit too expensive and too much work.

I think LG designed the curved edges to discourage users put a screen protector on it. LOL. I have been using it with no screen protector, but I have put it in a clear TPU that has lips. I dropped my phones a few times, sometimes face down, and luckily no scratches so far.

acefr said:
I think LG designed the curved edges to discourage users put a screen protector on it. LOL. I have been using it with no screen protector, but I have put it in a clear TPU that has lips. I dropped my phones a few times, sometimes face down, and luckily no scratches so far.
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That is important, to have the lip protection on a case.
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This my opinion if you don't care about resale value then go naked. Me I personally care about the resale value so I put a case and screen protector since I switch phones yearly sometimes less so I try to get as much money back as I can for the new phone or else I would go naked.

josemedina1983 said:
This my opinion if you don't care about resale value then go naked. Me I personally care about the resale value so I put a case and screen protector since I switch phones yearly sometimes less so I try to get as much money back as I can for the new phone or else I would go naked.
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I care about resale value, and I definitely see the need for a case (especially with raised lips) -- but not a screen protector that makes the display less responsive. A friend and his wife just got these phones, wouldn't listen to me, PAID for screen protectors at T-Mobile. Within 3 days they ripped them off.
Just don't put the phone on your pocket with keys and coins.

ChazzMatt said:
Agreed. Just don't put it in your pocket with your keys.
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Keys and coins don't scratch screens (there are dozens of Youtube videos that prove this), but a grain of sand will.
I never use screen protectors, and have never had any issues, but somewhere, somehow the v30 picked up a light scratch on the screen (but not from keys or coins).

338lm said:
Keys and coins don't scratch screens (there are dozens of Youtube videos that prove this), but a grain of sand will.
I never use screen protectors, and have never had any issues, but somewhere, somehow the v30 picked up a light scratch on the screen (but not from keys or coins).
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That's because there could be particles of dust/sand/rocks in your pocket which could scratch the glass. I always baby my phones, yet I've picked up a couple of scratches.