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THIS IS A SHAMELESS PLUG but... it's also very useful and if you make it a habit, it can even prevent SD card errors.
I was very surprised that a couple of my friends didn't know about dropbox for android and how well it works. For those who don't know, dropbox is a multi device syncing service. It's free up to 2gb. It sets up a folder on your mac or pc or linux box and everything you put in there is automatically sync'd to other devices.
Here's the thing, IT's FAST. Even UPLOADING is fast. This is important because if you have a 2mb apk that you're installing or a 5mb kernel that you're flashing, it's very convenient to just copy the file into your dropbox folder... and then simply grab it from dropbox on your SGS. I have fiber into my house but I remember that dropbox was really fast even before i got fios.
With exception larger 20+ mb files, I turned to doing this exclusively a few weeks ago because I was tired of my sd card always turning up errors when plugged in. The sdcard errors have even cost me a few pics taken from my phone. I don't know about you guys, but I probably mounted and dismounted my sd card over 10 times a day on the low side before.
Here's an important note about accessing files through dropbox though, you should always DOWNLOAD them from the dropbox app onto your sd card before installing. Installing directly from the dropbox android app can sometimes turn up errors.
So that's the plug guys. But if you haven't tried it yet, try it.
Like I said, the first 2gb are free from dropbox and if you refer friends, you can get upto 8gb free. I'm not even including my dropbox referral link here because I seriously believe in this tip that much! Save SD card errors and use dropbox!
Figured everyone does this, some shape or form. I think I've hooked up my phone to a computer like twice for USB access.
digiblur said:
Figured everyone does this, some shape or form. I think I've hooked up my phone to a computer like twice for USB access.
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Haha, ya, me too.
Weird though, today- dropbox has decided it needs to resync the contents every time I open a folder (once per folder). I'm not sure what the issue is, as 90% of the contents haven't changed. Not the end of the world, but ya, hope this thread gets more ppl using it. It really does save a lot of time, especially in school and e.g. transitioning to a new computer.
And.. thread getting moved in 5-4-3-2
No brainer...
I love DropBox. I signed up for an account then invited all my firends to join. When they did i get an additional 250megs. I then have a shared Folder that i have shared with all of them. We now have all the apps, games, wallpapers, ringtones, etc. my friends and I love in one place. Then on top of that it is backed up on my laptop and desktop. All for Free. If you haven't signed up for it, i highly recommend you do.
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Not Development.
That said, this is very cool technology. I wish they gave you more than 2-8GB for free, though, because I'd like to move my entire music, picture, and movie collections there. I'm actually thinking about paying the $100/year, which is ridiculous.
The coolest part is that it streams music and movies, doesn't download them. Very cool.
Google Music will be a good solution for the music, but I wish it would have generic storage space, too.
What are you doing to your phone that your sd card corrupts itself? I've never had it do that even once, and I've even DCed the phone in the middle of active transfers (a lot more times than I care to admit)
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What are you doing to your phone that your sd card corrupts itself? I've never had it do that even once, and I've even DCed the phone in the middle of active transfers (a lot more times than I care to admit)
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Really? my system created LOST directory was getting out of hand before this. I DID yank the cable out a few times during active file transfers but I doubt that was the only cause. Nowadays virus scans- indexing- caching.... things are being being written on HD's and cards all the time...
Am I the only one who had windows prompt me for a error check every other time when I mounted my disk? hmm...
@digiblur, I thought this is what everyone did too! But I was surprised to learn not...
This isn't development is it? Sorry mods! I just thought to post and should have done it in the general section. I'll exercise better judgment next time!
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What are you doing to your phone that your sd card corrupts itself? I've never had it do that even once, and I've even DCed the phone in the middle of active transfers (a lot more times than I care to admit)
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You might just be lucky. Many of our users have had odd bugs that were completely solved by SD card format and reflash.
Anybody know when the micro sdcard will be working? It just bugs me that it dosnt. And would be nice to be able to trasfer data from my android phone.
soon..... its killing us all but at least we got one.... Thank you Motorola
silly how it wasnt released with it being active
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Anybody know when the micro sdcard will be working? It just bugs me that it dosnt. And would be nice to be able to trasfer data from my android phone.
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I'd actually like to address this head on and ask you why you cannot currently transfer data from your android phone to your XOOM?
It is currently factually correct that you cannot take a MicroSD card out of your android phone and pop it into your XOOM and read files off it, but would you consider one of a handful of other options?
1. Plug your android phone into your computer and turn on the option to access its files, usually you see the little green android and a button that says to connect... shortly after your PC should autoplay the device and you can browse its files (and the SD card). This would allow you to pull files off your android phone, temporarily store them on your PC and then following a very similar procedure put them on your XOOM. The XOOM is even easier to connect to because of its filesystem, it doesn't have to unmount the storage and you can just plug it in and the PC will pick it up as a drive and autoplay it.
2. Use a cloud service like dropbox which is very easy to sign up for and set up, and gives you 2GB of storage. Install dropbox, set it up on the android phone... put your files you want "copied" into the designated dropbox folder and after you put dropbox on your XOOM the files will be synchronized.
I could come up with a variety of alternatives depending on your degree of experience but I think two should suffice for merely moving files from device A to device B.
If you're just pissed that your SD card slot doesnt work you could just say that too
I'm kind of happy that it doesn't work, because I don't need the added expense of a 32GB MicroSD card at the moment and personally... I think you go big or go home.
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I'd actually like to address this head on and ask you why you cannot currently transfer data from your android phone to your XOOM?
It is currently factually correct that you cannot take a MicroSD card out of your android phone and pop it into your XOOM and read files off it, but would you consider one of a handful of other options?
1. Plug your android phone into your computer and turn on the option to access its files, usually you see the little green android and a button that says to connect... shortly after your PC should autoplay the device and you can browse its files (and the SD card). This would allow you to pull files off your android phone, temporarily store them on your PC and then following a very similar procedure put them on your XOOM. The XOOM is even easier to connect to because of its filesystem, it doesn't have to unmount the storage and you can just plug it in and the PC will pick it up as a drive and autoplay it.
2. Use a cloud service like dropbox which is very easy to sign up for and set up, and gives you 2GB of storage. Install dropbox, set it up on the android phone... put your files you want "copied" into the designated dropbox folder and after you put dropbox on your XOOM the files will be synchronized.
I could come up with a variety of alternatives depending on your degree of experience but I think two should suffice for merely moving files from device A to device B.
If you're just pissed that your SD card slot doesnt work you could just say that too
I'm kind of happy that it doesn't work, because I don't need the added expense of a 32GB MicroSD card at the moment and personally... I think you go big or go home.
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Sorry but I would like the SD card to be working since it is much easier to transfer files then using another pc. When I am at work I simply pull my sdcard and use it in other peoples phones to give them updates, videos, etc without having to download it to their device. Thats one thing I do miss with my xoom and find myself waiting until I'm back home to put files on my xoom that I dont feel like waiting to download over 3G.
Love my Xoom and SD card support I can wait for, just hope its not a long wait
As I see where your coming from with the options man, my primary purpose of for an SD card is to store movies. If I keep a few 32GB sdcards onhand I can have my entire movie collection at my fingertips. Other than that I really don't have a need for one, its more of a added luxury.. It hasn't killed me thus far not having one, just waiting patiently ;-p.. Im also interested in the capabilities of the USB hosting as far as externals are concerned and exploring those possibilities but first they need to make a dock which has an output for USB. Its ridiculous that they release a so called Multimedia Dock without a USB hookup ugghh..
a temporary solution - for those who want more space - is using PlayOn and DropBox... I like to keep everything in the cloud.
Dropbox. End of story.
I heard a rumor it would be released Tomorrow...
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Tomorrow...
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Tomorrow what???
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Tomorrow...
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It's tomorrow today... LMAO
looks to me
Looks to me like this is the issue ->
Xoom ships with 32gb internal storage. It appears to have a folder on it called /sdcard which would normally be where you mount your sdcard. Android likes to save all of your pictures, movies, downloads, etc. on your /sdcard/.
Simply put, sounds like if they had shipped it with /sdcard as the mount point for your /sdcard, your ttu (typical tard user) would be forced to buy an sdcard to do anything with the tablet other than download apps from the market. This would give a bulking 32gb partition for system apps which would be unusable by camera, downloads, etc. until whatever software update will come down the road.
I too have a metric ****ton of micro sd cards laying around, but I dont mind so much not being able to use them in the xoom, because between pogoplug and tversity, with the occasional compliment of astro with cifs (smb) plugin, I can access anything I want from it's home on my network, and dont have to worry about syncing stuff between devices.
I'd much rather use my tablet to access my stuff than to store my stuff, period. For all of you mediaphiles out there, take a look at tversity. I've been using it for years, and it will live transcode & stream your media to anywhere, meaning you dont have to carry any of it around to be able to watch it. For the $30 one-time investment of the pro version, it will transcode to your mobile devices, android or even snapple. The free version will transcode & stream to absolutely anything else.. upnp media browsers, x360, ps3, media center, xbmc, etc.
we may fix SD before Motorola does... it's iffy. We know where the problem is and how Motorola turned it off. We need board schematics to know how to route power to the controller. Otherwise its hit and miss.
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It's tomorrow today... LMAO
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BRD is going to have it working today
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Its coming tomorrow...
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Groundhog's day
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Its coming tomorrow...
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You've been saying that everyday dude. LOL
Not happening until the weeks before the 16gb Xoom drops. Watch.
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what about internet
Everyone is saying use dropbox, use cloud to store files. Well remember this is Xoom Wifi, so that means if you're not home or don't have access to a hotspot then you are tost. So the idea that you can have a micro SD or even a few micro SD with all you need on it on the go sounds way more like a reasonable option then clod base or dropbox with limited storage. And with the hack to use an external storage like a wd portable hardrive is even more if an option. Imagine having access to 500 GB of data at you finger tips. Even in the cave or over the mountain with no wireless signal or wifi connection. Now that's what I call Xoom, Xoom, Xoom.
I just swapped my Samsung Galaxy Tab with a Xoom and I'm a bit miffed. I understand that the Xoom has 32GB of internal storage and does not come with an external SD card (or at least the person I bought it from kept the card).
With my SGT, when I plugged it into my Win7 64bit PC, the SD card would come up as a USB mass storage device.
Is there any way to do this with the internal storage of the Xoom? It's aggravatingly SLOW transferring files through the Personal Music Player icon that Win7 tosses in My Computer. I (as well as several other apps I use) would rather have a physical drive letter to copy to and from.
Not afraid to use a custom ROM or a modded apk or other system file. Yes, I did search and I also read the suggested topics that came up on the posting page, nothing was specifically related to the Xoom.
Yes. The Tiamat Rom, as well as the official 3.2 update activated the SD card slot in the xoom. No, the Xoom didnt ever come with a sdcard already in the slot like phones do, so you didnt get ripped off. the xoom file system is a little funny, "SDcard" is a seperate partition in the internal memory. If using Tiamat, and you have a sdcard in the sdcard slot, its labeled "external1" in the /mtn partition. When first placing an sd card in the slot, the system does take f o r e v e r, to recognize it (make sure you are also pushing the "mount sdcard" button in the storage settings menu). I generally just reboot the xoom after mounting a new card, that usually speeds up the process. When its all said and done when you plug the xoom into your pc you will get two hard drives that pop up, internal and sdcard. And heads up, you still cant put apps2sd like phones can, and you have to use root manager to move files from internal sdcard to external.
Yeah, that's the problem. At the moment, I don't have an SD card to put in it, but I was still expecting the internal storage to be mapped to a hard drive. I don't mind the Xoom showing up as a PMP but a lot of the apps I use as a developer (and some I use recreationally) need an actual drive letter I was hoping that even without an SD card mounted, that the internal storage would show up as a local disk. I've got 3.2.2 if that helps any.
Bought several SD cards, seems one of the contacts on the inside is dead, so I'm out as far as SD cards are concerned
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Bought several SD cards, seems one of the contacts on the inside is dead, so I'm out as far as SD cards are concerned
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If that's the case, you got a bad deal. Generally, the Xoom is excellent and though you can work around it, having the sdcard feels pretty essential to me. Hopefully you can get it fixed or get your other tab back.
The contact wasn't dead, it had a piece of clear plastic tape over it (not intentionally, it was a corner of what looks like shipping or packing tape). Got a whopping 4GB SD card plugged in, shows up fine under /mnt/external1 but neither of them are showing up as drives in Explorer
I've got 3.2.2, 4G build (HLK75D), tried this with and without root, no luck with any config.
Edit: Okay, lots of searching later, and it seems Google thought it was a wonderful idea to not include such functionality with Honeycomb. I am extremely well versed in c++ but I have never written a driver before, but I will be downloading and studying the Windows Driver Development Kit and seeing if I can write a replacement driver specifically for the Xoom to create an MTP to Logical Disk bridge driver.
In effect, you'll replace the standard Windows MTP Driver for the Xoom with this custom driver, which will bridge MTP to a lettered drive in Windows Explorer. Yeah, I know it's a complicated step but I want my damn Xoom to have drive letters in Explorer and as a programmer, I usually end up solving my own problems when the software giants pull retarded stuff like this.
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The contact wasn't dead, it had a piece of clear plastic tape over it (not intentionally, it was a corner of what looks like shipping or packing tape). Got a whopping 4GB SD card plugged in, shows up fine under /mnt/external1 but neither of them are showing up as drives in Explorer
I've got 3.2.2, 4G build (HLK75D), tried this with and without root, no luck with any config.
Edit: Okay, lots of searching later, and it seems Google thought it was a wonderful idea to not include such functionality with Honeycomb. I am extremely well versed in c++ but I have never written a driver before, but I will be downloading and studying the Windows Driver Development Kit and seeing if I can write a replacement driver specifically for the Xoom to create an MTP to Logical Disk bridge driver.
In effect, you'll replace the standard Windows MTP Driver for the Xoom with this custom driver, which will bridge MTP to a lettered drive in Windows Explorer. Yeah, I know it's a complicated step but I want my damn Xoom to have drive letters in Explorer and as a programmer, I usually end up solving my own problems when the software giants pull retarded stuff like this.
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Cool. Let us know when you've got it. I'm sure there will be interest for such a driver.
Just an update, the MTP side of the bridge appears rather simple to do. I may see why Google decided on MTP instead of the old unmount/mount dance. MTP allows the device to basically 'share' the storage without isolating it to a single device. Although if a hobbyist programmer like me can feasibly believe that they can program an MTP bridge, I don't see why the college educated, career programmers at Google couldn't do the same.
Basically what I am looking at is a driver that will bridge the MTP side of the Xoom over to a virtual hard disk device in Windows. It looks like I'll need to implement a way to present the virtual drive as a FAT32 (or maybe NTFS) formatted device, since software-wise all a virtual disk handles are pointers to what amounts to the 'raw' areas of a disk. Still working on it, as mentioned before I'm a hobbyist and have never dug into driver development.
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Just an update, the MTP side of the bridge appears rather simple to do. I may see why Google decided on MTP instead of the old unmount/mount dance. MTP allows the device to basically 'share' the storage without isolating it to a single device. Although if a hobbyist programmer like me can feasibly believe that they can program an MTP bridge, I don't see why the college educated, career programmers at Google couldn't do the same.
Basically what I am looking at is a driver that will bridge the MTP side of the Xoom over to a virtual hard disk device in Windows. It looks like I'll need to implement a way to present the virtual drive as a FAT32 (or maybe NTFS) formatted device, since software-wise all a virtual disk handles are pointers to what amounts to the 'raw' areas of a disk. Still working on it, as mentioned before I'm a hobbyist and have never dug into driver development.
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I forgot that Team Tiamat had implemented usb mass storage in an earlier verion of their Xoom kernel, but decided to remove it as it caused many complications. Look in the back pages of the Development section, for tiamat kernels and also dinomite's mass storage watcher thread. You may be able to find something you can use.
So I recently discovered the awesomeness that is Twonky... So while beaming a movie to my xbox, it dawned on me... Could I usb my external hard drive to my gs3 and beam the movies on that to the xbox? Anybody ever tried this and have any ideas or tips to make this work?
You need a powered hub to provide enough power to spin the hard drive, the S3 can't push that much back out.
You need a fat32 filesystem on the hard drive - android can't see ntfs if coming from windows base.
The results become more wonky the larger the drive.
Mass media on a fat32 filesystem is not so fun, especially video.
That was a very well thought out and precise answer. So my follow up will be, any way to make it work? Or any better ideas to pull the video files from the hard drive?
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I've been using one of these: Seagate Wireless HDD
...but haven't had a chance to use it with the S3 yet. I did just get the new version of their app for it ( you don't need it, makes it easier though).
The way it works is the HDD creates its own wifi network and then you connect to that. Downside to this is you lose wifi internet while talking to the HDD.
Fantastic to have 500 gigs of immediately available storage in my pocket. The battery is decent even today and I got it right around launch.
First generation of self-contained wireless storage, so I expected it to be a lot more buggy and hit-or-miss then it is.
I had issues streaming video to tv on my last device, but there were issues with that beyond anything that may or may not have been caused by the device or it's app. Mostly gingerbread and htc's take on it being the problem.
Having installed the app on the S3, and just updated to the JB OTA, i'm looking forward to playing with it and using the MHL out to my tuner.
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Otherwise, though, I don't have any video game consoles, so i'm kinda in the dark about how or what happens when you communicate with something like an xbox - also haven't heard of twonky before this thread and haven't looked it up.
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I would absolutely love MHL and OTG in one OEM cable. That would give OTG with it's own power and maybe allow dropping the powered hub from required stuff to drag around with you. Who knows when or if we'll get it, if anyone's involved in making that happen beyond the general consensus of everyone wanting it.
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I am curious about the best way to manage a video collection and in it's presentation. I have a ton of video from digital cameras and android devices over the last decade. I'd love to be able to casually present it on displays I come across at residences and such. The whole "bring a bag full of adapters and cables" bit precludes it happening a lot.
The S3 really opens up the use of the memory card as a memory card, what with the internal SD being a safe haven for your apps data so you don't break them when you swap cards. This makes it finally useful to carry a handful of sdcards with different stuff on it.
I have a 64 gig card in my 32 gig S3, so that's covered me on the video i've taken - however - I am all for learning how to make it work from non-local storage (like a hard drive, or the wireless one I have).
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Every step like bringing the data into the device with an sdcard, or having the hard drive be wireless or whatever like that is a cheater step, though. The end goal would be to be able to utilize any random usb hard drive you came across - so if your friend has a hard drive with video on it, how do get that in your hand and make the S3 present that video to the display in front of you both?
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I am not sure when I can get around to playing with the wireless HDD and video output, but sometime over the next few weeks is a likely time frame for my curiosity to make time to find out. I'll see about finding this thread to toss some details about how it went when I get the chance. Meantime, that is only one avenue to goal - what others can we come up with?
Edit - also the most recent firmware claims to be able to allow wifi internet access and access to the drive at the same time, so maybe the biggest turnoff was handled. Now really can't wait to find time to try it out.
Hi,
I have a stock Galaxy S7 running 6.0.1 with an SD card configured as portable storage. I tried two SSH servers (Ssh Server and SSH Server, I know the names are not very helpful) and they both work fine. However they can't access my SD card.
Is it possible to get this to work, can this never work, etc.? Various file managers can work with the SD card. I don't understand why the SSH servers don't.
The question behind this question is what's the easiest/fastest way to get a 100 gig of files onto an SD card that a phone or tablet running Marshmallow can access. Without Windows or Mac I don't know of any better way. Why, oh why didn't Android provide a normal plug and play USB interface like you normally get with most devices where you can mount all the drives and act like they're local...
If anybody has ideas on this that would be nice. If not if I can at least access my SD card from an SSH server running on the device I'll be able to pump my files over from my various systems.
Thank you.
Updated: I built the latest libmtp and stable gmtp today and it starts working great but eventually crashes in the middle of transferring a bunch of files. Oddly, it seems to die on the same file each time. I don't have time right now but later I'll check and see if I can prove whether it's after some amount of time/data/whatever or if the file is bad (unlikely). So unless somebody has a better idea how we can get good ole' 1990s USB mass storage working I'm kinda screwed atm.
midnightrider said:
Hi,
I have a stock Galaxy S7 running 6.0.1 with an SD card configured as portable storage. I tried two SSH servers (Ssh Server and SSH Server, I know the names are not very helpful) and they both work fine. However they can't access my SD card.
Is it possible to get this to work, can this never work, etc.? Various file managers can work with the SD card. I don't understand why the SSH servers don't.
The question behind this question is what's the easiest/fastest way to get a 100 gig of files onto an SD card that a phone or tablet running Marshmallow can access. Without Windows or Mac I don't know of any better way. Why, oh why didn't Android provide a normal plug and play USB interface like you normally get with most devices where you can mount all the drives and act like they're local...
If anybody has ideas on this that would be nice. If not if I can at least access my SD card from an SSH server running on the device I'll be able to pump my files over from my various systems.
Thank you.
Updated: I built the latest libmtp and stable gmtp today and it starts working great but eventually crashes in the middle of transferring a bunch of files. Oddly, it seems to die on the same file each time. I don't have time right now but later I'll check and see if I can prove whether it's after some amount of time/data/whatever or if the file is bad (unlikely). So unless somebody has a better idea how we can get good ole' 1990s USB mass storage working I'm kinda screwed atm.
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there is a Galaxy S7 forum
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there is a Galaxy S7 forum
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Thanks, but this is a generic Android Marshmallow issue as far as I know.
It appears the SD card filesystem is not world writeable. TotalCommander allows me to change it in the GUI but it doesn't actually get changed. No error or warning messages either.
edit: ok after hours of searching here and on the net this is apparently caused by design in Marshmallow. The permissions on the SD card make it not happening to directly update the card. I think, but I am not sure, there is an API for applications that want to write to the card. Some apps can certainly do it. I found a thread here where a guy figured out a solution if you are rooted. I'm sorry but I accidentally closed the tab (DOH!) and lost the link.
The choices seem to be:
1) ask the dev to fix his app to be able to write on the SD card
2) root your phone and change permissions or change the xml file to deal with it
3) use your SD card as adoptable storage. This only works if you have a really fast/expensive card otherwise your performance will suck hard and you'll be miserable. Lots of other downside to this, probably not worth it.
I have no idea if this is going to be fixed in N. I hope so because it is a huge PITA. And stupid!
I just built the linux fuse support for exfat and am downloading a bunch of doc to the sd card from linux. After I fill up the card I'll test it out and update again. Very easy build, the whole thing was less than 3 minutes. For anybody who wants to try this on a non package managed linux (I use Slackware) see here: https://github.com/relan/exfat