THIS IS A SHAMELESS PLUG but... it's also very useful and if you make it a habit, it can even prevent SD card errors.
I was very surprised that a couple of my friends didn't know about dropbox for android and how well it works. For those who don't know, dropbox is a multi device syncing service. It's free up to 2gb. It sets up a folder on your mac or pc or linux box and everything you put in there is automatically sync'd to other devices.
Here's the thing, IT's FAST. Even UPLOADING is fast. This is important because if you have a 2mb apk that you're installing or a 5mb kernel that you're flashing, it's very convenient to just copy the file into your dropbox folder... and then simply grab it from dropbox on your SGS. I have fiber into my house but I remember that dropbox was really fast even before i got fios.
With exception larger 20+ mb files, I turned to doing this exclusively a few weeks ago because I was tired of my sd card always turning up errors when plugged in. The sdcard errors have even cost me a few pics taken from my phone. I don't know about you guys, but I probably mounted and dismounted my sd card over 10 times a day on the low side before.
Here's an important note about accessing files through dropbox though, you should always DOWNLOAD them from the dropbox app onto your sd card before installing. Installing directly from the dropbox android app can sometimes turn up errors.
So that's the plug guys. But if you haven't tried it yet, try it.
Like I said, the first 2gb are free from dropbox and if you refer friends, you can get upto 8gb free. I'm not even including my dropbox referral link here because I seriously believe in this tip that much! Save SD card errors and use dropbox!
Figured everyone does this, some shape or form. I think I've hooked up my phone to a computer like twice for USB access.
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Figured everyone does this, some shape or form. I think I've hooked up my phone to a computer like twice for USB access.
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Haha, ya, me too.
Weird though, today- dropbox has decided it needs to resync the contents every time I open a folder (once per folder). I'm not sure what the issue is, as 90% of the contents haven't changed. Not the end of the world, but ya, hope this thread gets more ppl using it. It really does save a lot of time, especially in school and e.g. transitioning to a new computer.
And.. thread getting moved in 5-4-3-2
No brainer...
I love DropBox. I signed up for an account then invited all my firends to join. When they did i get an additional 250megs. I then have a shared Folder that i have shared with all of them. We now have all the apps, games, wallpapers, ringtones, etc. my friends and I love in one place. Then on top of that it is backed up on my laptop and desktop. All for Free. If you haven't signed up for it, i highly recommend you do.
Fuz
Not Development.
That said, this is very cool technology. I wish they gave you more than 2-8GB for free, though, because I'd like to move my entire music, picture, and movie collections there. I'm actually thinking about paying the $100/year, which is ridiculous.
The coolest part is that it streams music and movies, doesn't download them. Very cool.
Google Music will be a good solution for the music, but I wish it would have generic storage space, too.
What are you doing to your phone that your sd card corrupts itself? I've never had it do that even once, and I've even DCed the phone in the middle of active transfers (a lot more times than I care to admit)
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What are you doing to your phone that your sd card corrupts itself? I've never had it do that even once, and I've even DCed the phone in the middle of active transfers (a lot more times than I care to admit)
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Really? my system created LOST directory was getting out of hand before this. I DID yank the cable out a few times during active file transfers but I doubt that was the only cause. Nowadays virus scans- indexing- caching.... things are being being written on HD's and cards all the time...
Am I the only one who had windows prompt me for a error check every other time when I mounted my disk? hmm...
@digiblur, I thought this is what everyone did too! But I was surprised to learn not...
This isn't development is it? Sorry mods! I just thought to post and should have done it in the general section. I'll exercise better judgment next time!
Move away!
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What are you doing to your phone that your sd card corrupts itself? I've never had it do that even once, and I've even DCed the phone in the middle of active transfers (a lot more times than I care to admit)
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You might just be lucky. Many of our users have had odd bugs that were completely solved by SD card format and reflash.
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I was using the internal 13gb storage to back up pics from my camera on a trip and all of a sudden it just shows gibberish file names and that u have 13.13gb free of 13.13gb. I tried restarting it, no difference although it did appear to show a few more files. Any ideas? I'd be pretty bummed if i just lost my pics.
seems to show more gibberish files now, but none have any more than 0 bytes... any advice on if it would be possible to recover the drive or anything?
Greetings.
I may have read you wrong but you did say "back up my pics from my camera" which sounds as if they are still on the camera? No sweat if that's so, copy them from the camera to your pc/mac or where ever else would appear to be a safer storage alternative. Then its a simple matter to get them burned to dvd/cd or printed at your local store.
If you meant you copied to the sdcard then deleted the originals from the camera you may still have a chance to resurrect them. If you can mount your cameras storage via USB then find yourself an "unerase" type of program and get them all back that way.
Just a word of advice: Since we are all modding the tablets, which in and of itself is a semi-risky, albeit fun, thing to be doing then do not count on anything being permanently on our tablet if it has any value to you. (we are all in a way beta testers)
I hope my ramblings help you.
Regards,
Fuzzy
Any and all ramblings are appreciated. I took some pics in vegas, filled the 2gb microsd card and dumped those onto the tablets internal storage, then took more pics in california and am now out of luck as far as recovering from the microsd card goes i think. Anyone beg to differ? I haven't really looked into recovery options there.
I'm hoping there is a way to get a direct image of the internal memory and then maybe I could run some utilities meant to recover files, though I am probably out of luck. It was handy wading through the pics on the tablet and uploading them straight to facebook after backing them up to it, though the quality isn't quite as nice of course as the original files. I've only had the thing about a month, so I figured I was safe as far as using it for backing up off my camera on my trip. Lesson learned I guess, grab some $10 sd cards instead of using microsd with an adapter and backing up to the tablet.
Hello,
Super noob here, so I'm in no way trying to offer advice. Just thought I'd share my experience.
Couple of weeks ago I had the gtab attached to my PC to copy some files. After I disconnected I opened the sdcard and basically found the same thing you are experiencing, nothing but a bunch of garbage files.
I think this happened because I pulled the plug too soon when disconnecting. You tap to 'deactivate usb transfer', then you get a series of messages about preparing SD card and such. I think you have to be careful to wait until it's done, which only takes a few seconds.
Unfortunately I can't offer any help about recovering the photos but I can tell you how I fixed my internal sdcard storage.
I simply re-ran the partitioning routine in clockwork mod and it took care of the corruption. The internal storage is fine now.
Sorry I can't offer help on recovering the files, hopefully something comes along.
Neudle
I was able to recover lost pics from a corrupt external harddrive, using a free program called Recuva. I believe Piriform makes it. Just a thought
WillieBH said:
I was able to recover lost pics from a corrupt external harddrive, using a free program called Recuva. I believe Piriform makes it. Just a thought
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yes that sounds perfect, now if only i knew how to get a direct 1:1 dump of the internal memory...
dd would work I think. You'd need root and a big enough USB or uSD to hold the image
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dd would work I think. You'd need root and a big enough USB or uSD to hold the image
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awesome man, finally something i can google
i've got a usb hard drive i can connect that is plenty big, not sure if there is a max size limit though...
the only info on dd command i can find is linux specific but i'm assuming it is the same. http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/38387.aspx?p=2
"The command used to clone an entire drive would look like this:
dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb"
so sda is source and sdb is where to, so probably replace those with sdcard and sdcard2 or whatever the usb drive would be called.
This site says how to get command line access to my tablet, saying i need the sdk to get adb. http://gailly.net/android/android-tips.html
I can't really try it out til I get home, but my hopes are up. If anyone has tips or wants to say this post is completely wrong I'd much appreciate it.
From the little Droid tinkering I have done it'd be
dd if=/dev/block/mmc???
The input is the SD block device and partition not sure the exact thus the? ??
of=/path/to/mounted/drive
Anybody know when the micro sdcard will be working? It just bugs me that it dosnt. And would be nice to be able to trasfer data from my android phone.
soon..... its killing us all but at least we got one.... Thank you Motorola
silly how it wasnt released with it being active
Tick tick tick......
more threads about this please
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Anybody know when the micro sdcard will be working? It just bugs me that it dosnt. And would be nice to be able to trasfer data from my android phone.
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I'd actually like to address this head on and ask you why you cannot currently transfer data from your android phone to your XOOM?
It is currently factually correct that you cannot take a MicroSD card out of your android phone and pop it into your XOOM and read files off it, but would you consider one of a handful of other options?
1. Plug your android phone into your computer and turn on the option to access its files, usually you see the little green android and a button that says to connect... shortly after your PC should autoplay the device and you can browse its files (and the SD card). This would allow you to pull files off your android phone, temporarily store them on your PC and then following a very similar procedure put them on your XOOM. The XOOM is even easier to connect to because of its filesystem, it doesn't have to unmount the storage and you can just plug it in and the PC will pick it up as a drive and autoplay it.
2. Use a cloud service like dropbox which is very easy to sign up for and set up, and gives you 2GB of storage. Install dropbox, set it up on the android phone... put your files you want "copied" into the designated dropbox folder and after you put dropbox on your XOOM the files will be synchronized.
I could come up with a variety of alternatives depending on your degree of experience but I think two should suffice for merely moving files from device A to device B.
If you're just pissed that your SD card slot doesnt work you could just say that too
I'm kind of happy that it doesn't work, because I don't need the added expense of a 32GB MicroSD card at the moment and personally... I think you go big or go home.
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I'd actually like to address this head on and ask you why you cannot currently transfer data from your android phone to your XOOM?
It is currently factually correct that you cannot take a MicroSD card out of your android phone and pop it into your XOOM and read files off it, but would you consider one of a handful of other options?
1. Plug your android phone into your computer and turn on the option to access its files, usually you see the little green android and a button that says to connect... shortly after your PC should autoplay the device and you can browse its files (and the SD card). This would allow you to pull files off your android phone, temporarily store them on your PC and then following a very similar procedure put them on your XOOM. The XOOM is even easier to connect to because of its filesystem, it doesn't have to unmount the storage and you can just plug it in and the PC will pick it up as a drive and autoplay it.
2. Use a cloud service like dropbox which is very easy to sign up for and set up, and gives you 2GB of storage. Install dropbox, set it up on the android phone... put your files you want "copied" into the designated dropbox folder and after you put dropbox on your XOOM the files will be synchronized.
I could come up with a variety of alternatives depending on your degree of experience but I think two should suffice for merely moving files from device A to device B.
If you're just pissed that your SD card slot doesnt work you could just say that too
I'm kind of happy that it doesn't work, because I don't need the added expense of a 32GB MicroSD card at the moment and personally... I think you go big or go home.
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+1000 cosigned
Sorry but I would like the SD card to be working since it is much easier to transfer files then using another pc. When I am at work I simply pull my sdcard and use it in other peoples phones to give them updates, videos, etc without having to download it to their device. Thats one thing I do miss with my xoom and find myself waiting until I'm back home to put files on my xoom that I dont feel like waiting to download over 3G.
Love my Xoom and SD card support I can wait for, just hope its not a long wait
As I see where your coming from with the options man, my primary purpose of for an SD card is to store movies. If I keep a few 32GB sdcards onhand I can have my entire movie collection at my fingertips. Other than that I really don't have a need for one, its more of a added luxury.. It hasn't killed me thus far not having one, just waiting patiently ;-p.. Im also interested in the capabilities of the USB hosting as far as externals are concerned and exploring those possibilities but first they need to make a dock which has an output for USB. Its ridiculous that they release a so called Multimedia Dock without a USB hookup ugghh..
a temporary solution - for those who want more space - is using PlayOn and DropBox... I like to keep everything in the cloud.
Dropbox. End of story.
I heard a rumor it would be released Tomorrow...
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Tomorrow...
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Tomorrow what???
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bwcorvus said:
Tomorrow...
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It's tomorrow today... LMAO
looks to me
Looks to me like this is the issue ->
Xoom ships with 32gb internal storage. It appears to have a folder on it called /sdcard which would normally be where you mount your sdcard. Android likes to save all of your pictures, movies, downloads, etc. on your /sdcard/.
Simply put, sounds like if they had shipped it with /sdcard as the mount point for your /sdcard, your ttu (typical tard user) would be forced to buy an sdcard to do anything with the tablet other than download apps from the market. This would give a bulking 32gb partition for system apps which would be unusable by camera, downloads, etc. until whatever software update will come down the road.
I too have a metric ****ton of micro sd cards laying around, but I dont mind so much not being able to use them in the xoom, because between pogoplug and tversity, with the occasional compliment of astro with cifs (smb) plugin, I can access anything I want from it's home on my network, and dont have to worry about syncing stuff between devices.
I'd much rather use my tablet to access my stuff than to store my stuff, period. For all of you mediaphiles out there, take a look at tversity. I've been using it for years, and it will live transcode & stream your media to anywhere, meaning you dont have to carry any of it around to be able to watch it. For the $30 one-time investment of the pro version, it will transcode to your mobile devices, android or even snapple. The free version will transcode & stream to absolutely anything else.. upnp media browsers, x360, ps3, media center, xbmc, etc.
we may fix SD before Motorola does... it's iffy. We know where the problem is and how Motorola turned it off. We need board schematics to know how to route power to the controller. Otherwise its hit and miss.
leenypost said:
It's tomorrow today... LMAO
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BRD is going to have it working today
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Its coming tomorrow...
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Groundhog's day
bwcorvus said:
Its coming tomorrow...
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You've been saying that everyday dude. LOL
Not happening until the weeks before the 16gb Xoom drops. Watch.
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what about internet
Everyone is saying use dropbox, use cloud to store files. Well remember this is Xoom Wifi, so that means if you're not home or don't have access to a hotspot then you are tost. So the idea that you can have a micro SD or even a few micro SD with all you need on it on the go sounds way more like a reasonable option then clod base or dropbox with limited storage. And with the hack to use an external storage like a wd portable hardrive is even more if an option. Imagine having access to 500 GB of data at you finger tips. Even in the cave or over the mountain with no wireless signal or wifi connection. Now that's what I call Xoom, Xoom, Xoom.
Hello, was hoping someone could help me or possibly explain how the Storage is structured on the 300T.
You have Local, SD & MicroSD storage. On my Evo3D phone I have Local and MicroSD and when I use my Cloud Service it stores everything on the MicroSD. On my 300T when I use my Cloud Service it stores everthing on the Internal SD storage instead of the removable MicroSD card. I have heard that once you fill up the SD storage it will overflow onto the removable MicroSD, is this true?
Basically, I want to store games and Tablet data on the local and Internal SD storage and have all my music and movies on the removable MicroSD. Are there was to do this?
Unless there is a option in the app you are using that you can change where it puts the multimedia files you download from it you will have to move them to the removable Micro SD yourself.
However I wouldn't think anything would default to the removable MicroSD because they probably think the internal sd IS the external memory. allowing your external MicroSD to not get cluttered.
I don't have much experience with tablets or ICS so I could be wrong.
I would like to get it to download apps to SD instead of internal
I'm having a problem on my TF300T
All my apps are downloading off the Market directly to the Internal Storage even though I have a 32GB Micro SD Card!
Anyone have any insight as to why this happens? My internal storage is filling up quite quickly. I think the base memory on these things is only 12GB free to start so I really need to be able to swap cards in and out and have apps install to it instead of internal.
Thanks in advance
nordis,
nordis2010 said:
I'm having a problem on my TF300T
All my apps are downloading off the Market directly to the Internal Storage even though I have a 32GB Micro SD Card!
Anyone have any insight as to why this happens? My internal storage is filling up quite quickly. I think the base memory on these things is only 12GB free to start so I really need to be able to swap cards in and out and have apps install to it instead of internal.
Thanks in advance
nordis,
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By default on ICS everything goes to the sd card. I believe there is a rooted option to move some apps to sd card, but I'm not sure. check out this thread. Starting on that page and for a little bit there is some discussion on it.
As I stated in that thread. I would like to know what apps people are installing that take up that much space.
I checked out that link, did not get much regarding the sd card. If apps are not going to install to it then what's the point?
As far as apps go that take up that much space, it's all kinds of them, from music apps, to gps nav apps. I use Sygic with this and
pull down all the maps of the us, right there your 12gb is gone. A bunch of forex trading apps, I have Root since last night.
I really need this stuff to install to the 32gb cards I have or this thing is going to be pretty useless to me real fast.
My sons is the same, with in a week he has his loaded with games to the point where the internal storage is almost full.
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nordis2010 said:
I checked out that link, did not get much regarding the sd card. If apps are not going to install to it then what's the point?
As far as apps go that take up that much space, it's all kinds of them, from music apps, to gps nav apps. I use Sygic with this and
pull down all the maps of the us, right there your 12gb is gone. A bunch of forex trading apps, I have Root since last night.
I really need this stuff to install to the 32gb cards I have or this thing is going to be pretty useless to me real fast.
My sons is the same, with in a week he has his loaded with games to the point where the internal storage is almost full.
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I'm not sure if these apps work but try them out:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.a0soft.gphone.app2sd&hl=en
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wOSwiY29tLndvbmd4bWluZy5hbmRyb2lkLmFwcDJzZCJd
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDEwOSwibW9iaS5pbmZvbGlmZS5hcHAyc2QiXQ..
Cool
It never occurred to me to just check the app store lol!
Thanks for that. Guess my brain is a bit laggy today, spent all night
getting this rooted.
Actually rooting it was beyond simple, the real issue was with Java not being recognized by Windows, so I couldn't run ADB.
All it came down to was the Environment Variable, once set it could see
the application and load the usb drivers. Then after getting it loaded I had to play with it, so went to sleep got up a hour later to go to work hehe.
Anyway thanks for the responses, this forum has been a God Sent!
nordis,
There's no way without root is there?
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There's no way without root is there?
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Nope, some of the data from the apps are stored in /root/data/data.... You'll need root to move them (in our case ICS, in gingerbread you were able to do this unrooted). Did it work nordis?
Wasn't at system when you sent that last response.
Hi,
Sorry was going back n forth between work and home.
I have a couple of them pulled down, all with very similar names.
A couple look really promising. I will post it once I'm finished but it looks
like the majority of these will allow me to move everything that I want to
move off of the internal storage and on to the SD card.
Well all except the XDA forums, for some reason those all state internal only.
Not a big deal though. If I can move the GPS apps off the internal storage, and
my ForEx apps I think I'm good.
nordis,
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This sucks,
Apparently some rocket scientist over at Asus decided that on a 16GB Base System that it was more than enough storage space to do anything anyone could want, and that the external storage would only be to transfer files to an from the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26151036&posted=1#post26151036
I literally wont be able to use these systems with in a couple of days from now.
Not being able to save application data on a storage drive has to be the single most asinine thing I've ever see a electronics manufacturer do. This is really a deal breaker now. If I'm unable to get this data from point A. to point B. and still be able to access it from with in the applications, these things are useless!
This is not a Opinion, this is a requirement for me.
If there was a big disclaimer some place that said HEY YOU REALLY ONLY HAVE ABOUT 12GB OF SPACE TO WORK WITH, AND AFTER THAT YOUR S.O.L! I would have moved right past these.
I just don't even know what to do now, Play Frisbee with these things or something I guess, on the way back to the store!
nordis2010 said:
This sucks,
Apparently some rocket scientist over at Asus decided that on a 16GB Base System that it was more than enough storage space to do anything anyone could want, and that the external storage would only be to transfer files to an from the device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26151036&posted=1#post26151036
I literally wont be able to use these systems with in a couple of days from now.
Not being able to save application data on a storage drive has to be the single most asinine thing I've ever see a electronics manufacturer do. This is really a deal breaker now. If I'm unable to get this data from point A. to point B. and still be able to access it from with in the applications, these things are useless!
This is not a Opinion, this is a requirement for me.
If there was a big disclaimer some place that said HEY YOU REALLY ONLY HAVE ABOUT 12GB OF SPACE TO WORK WITH, AND AFTER THAT YOUR S.O.L! I would have moved right past these.
I just don't even know what to do now, Play Frisbee with these things or something I guess, on the way back to the store!
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So, I'm guessing the apps didn't work. Suggestion why don't you just download the maps for your current State, there's really no need to download all the maps from USA, if you're not using them everyday. If you ever need to go to another state just download the maps for that state before going. This will help you save some space. You could also consider getting the 32GB version. The only way to fill the 12gb of free space is installing about 15 Dark Meadows apps (approx. 800MB each). The larger size regular games (non THD) take around 50-100 MBs, meaning that you have space for 120 games (12GBs). This would be completely ridiculous since no one plays that much games, I have about 10 installed right now and I only play like three of them (and I'm a gamer).
Unused data should be freed, if you don't want to lose the data on those apps you barely use you can run Titanium backup to back up your data and transfer the data to your pc for later use if needed. Every media you have (videos, photos, music, etc.) you can store them in the external SD card.
Still I understand your frustration, we should be able to transfer stuff to our card without any hassle. AFAIK this isn't just an ASUS problem but an overal ICS problem.
I know
I did for just my state an the surrounding states I live near.
For the past couple of days I had been looking at running some small app on the SD card, they jump you through hoops and loops going through some partition process for the Micro SD card.
However I think I can do this right on a Windows 7 system with the Drive Management utilities built into Windows, and a Micro SD to USB reader.
Which I already have, I used for my sons DS way back, I put the card in it, through it in the system, it see's it, and tells me that it can be read, formatted, partitioned the whole 9 yards. So I will try it at work today and let you know how it turns out. If this can be partitioned this way, and then use one of these apps L2SD or something like that then it's a very simple solution.
Sorry I will post the exact name of the app I was looking at once I have tested this if it works. Along with detailed instructions.
Thanks again for all the help.
nordis,
I'm linked it all works I used a SD to USB adapter in Windows
Hi,
I'm linked and you can set it up to use the SD Card as the default for downloads now.
First things you need to do this.
You have to be have Root access on your device before you can do any of this. You have to make sure you go into settings on your device and Enable USB Debugging before you start any of this.
1. You need to partition your Micro SD Card. I used the a SD to USB Adapter, and Partitioned my 32GB Card the SD Card on a Windows 7 system as follows.
Set the 1st partition to 1GB. Set the second partition to use the remainder of the card. Download "EaseUS Partition Master Home Edition" it's free, you pull it down from www.download.com
2. You need a boot loader this is what that 1st 1GB partition is for. I used
bootice you can download it from here free http://code.google.com/p/grub4dos-ireneuszp/downloads/detail?name=bootice_0.9.2011.0512.rar
This is all you need to do with this app. Run Bootice, go "Parts Manage" > "ReFormat USB disk" (don't worry, it won't "format" the USB) > choose the dropdown option for your new first partition > click "Set Accessible" and it's done already! After that you can just click cancel/close/etc.
3. Download and run Link2SD from the Android Market, you can actually do this step first. Also this app is free.
Here is a Guide I found online for Link2SD. http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/
This guide shows you how to move apps, No proprietary system apps, but those are note the ones you really have to worry about taking up space anyway. It also shows you how to go into the Link2SD settings and make your Micro SD Card your default download location from places that auto install applications like the Android Market. Very nice, this was exactly what I needed, I'm very pleased with this so far.
I have to give another thank you to jgaf for this, he pointed me in the direction of the Link 2 SD software in the first place, very much appreciated!
Sorry it took me so long to post this after I got setup it's been a busy weekend though.
Good luck.
nordis
Good to hear nordis now you can keep your TF300Ts Maybe you should make a new thread with the steps you did to get it working, so other people can find it easily.
Good idea.
Just have to finish some other things up and I will
move the details over to a new thread.
nordis,
Done, I posted it in the main Q&A section. Cleaned it up a bit, added a couple of lines where I thought people may have some questions. I hope it's pretty straight forward for everyone. I went through all this like a breeze when I partitioned my card this way, hopefully every one else will as well.
Get the 32gb version of the 300.
If you can fill up 30gb with apps, you need to learn to not keep everything you don't really use.
Put your music, movies, and photos on the Sd card, you won't have a problem with app space.
The 32gb version is only $20 more. It's not like you can't afford it.
Wasn't aware of it at the time, and they don't offer it at Best Buy
When I purchased the ones I was getting I just went to Best Buy so I could get them right then.
Didn't want to wait or order them off the net, and all that Best Buy sells apparently is the 16GB version. I wasn't aware at the time that there even was a 32GB version.
However I would fill that up eventually as well. It's just not good business marketing to make a device with such a limitation in the first place. You should be able to download, and install apps where you want them and need them.
Anyway situation is resolved for me now I'm happy.
nordis,
I know I've seen a thread about this, but not in the last 50 posts or so.
Question: does anyone foresee ever being able to expand our storage? Even with a border line dirty hardware hack?
I had built in storage on my nexus s 4G, and it was a pain *sometimes*
But, I've had my One S for about 2 weeks, and already have to delete stuff on a regular basis.
This is mostly because I'm a flash whore, and sense nandroids are usually over 1GB. I'm running MIUI right now, but will probably switch back, as I really miss the cool camera features.
But basically, with a few nandroids, some pictures, and some podcasts, my card will be full.
Anyone have any non-obvious ideas? (If that's a real word).
Obvious ideas would be, delete stuff, use SDMaid to clear out unneeded crap, don't take pictures, etc.
Someone please give me hope
Nothing you can do about it except the just the usual stuff
1) Sync all your photos and backups with dropbox. Can be scheduled automatically.
2) Sync your whole music library with google play.
You can just delete all your music, photos and backup yet still have access to them anytime you want. I am not sure about nandroid. Do you really need more than one?
I was just about to make this thread lol. Surely there must be a way to adjust the partitioning somehow. Like I've got 1.7 GB free on /data which I don't really plan on using much of, so I could move 1.5 GB from there onto the /sdcard partition. Similarly can also move a chunk of the /system partition since that has 1.35 GB free...could probably move a gig from there too and that's an instant 2.5 GB extra space!
I know people have succeeded in repartitioning on certain other phones, so there must be a way on here too. I hope someone can figure it out. F**k cloud storage.
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wilcoholic said:
Nothing you can do about it except the just the usual stuff
1) Sync all your photos and backups with dropbox. Can be scheduled automatically.
2) Sync your whole music library with google play.
You can just delete all your music, photos and backup yet still have access to them anytime you want. I am not sure about nandroid. Do you really need more than one?
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Not everyone has unlimited data plans, cloud syncing will destroy data allowances and eat the battery. And I like my music library on my device, what happens if I want to listen to music while on a train and have no signal? etc etc... an extra few gigs would be a lot more helpful than moving everything to space.
Then hook up your device via usb when you are home or sync with wifi instead..
I have all my nandroids and titanium backups on dropbox to save space on my phone.
I am on a data cap too. But theres nothing I can do about it. I just don't have space on my phone. This way its at least always with me wherever I go. And I just add/delete the recent stuff to my phone manually. Thats often not more than 500mb of songs.
The rest I just sync at home when I am on wifi. I don't need backups or photos on my phone at all. So if I need space I can delete them without worries. Its safely stored with dropbox.
Titanium and Nandroid backups aren't an issue. I haven't got any of those and when I do I can easily move those off. But what I want with me locally is my music and picture library. No way am I putting that on the cloud. I've just come from a 32 gig SD card with about 6000 songs, and I had about 16 gb free space still left lol. I had to convert all songs from 64kbit ogg to 40kbit HE-AACv2 just to get it to fit. And now with less than 300 mb free space I am deleting some songs.
But my point is, there are several gigs just wasted in the other partitions. It would be nice to make those user accessible.
So I hope someone can make a ROM/mod that readjusts the partition sizes when flashing.
True, but that's the sacrifice you make when buying a phone with a fixed storage of just 16 gb. But other then moving stuff to dropbox and removing them from your phone I don't think there are many options.. At least not until usb-host comes to our phones You could also buy an mp3 player for music (and a camera for pictures and a handheld console for gaming xD )
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True, but that's the sacrifice you make when buying a phone with a fixed storage of just 16 gb. But other then moving stuff to dropbox and removing them from your phone I don't think there are many options.. At least not until usb-host comes to our phones You could also buy an mp3 player for music (and a camera for pictures and a handheld console for gaming xD )
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Lol then I might as well go back to my Nokia 3210 for a phone
I have no doubts that we will be able to repartition the storage in the near future.
But to be honest, even if we do we would only get like maybe 4GB more. Does this really make that much of a difference to you?
I mean compared to a 32GB microSD card this is pretty much no difference.
So far, I still have about 7GB free, so I am pretty fine how it is righ now.
Someone09 said:
I have no doubts that we will be able to repartition the storage in the near future.
But to be honest, even if we do we would only get like maybe 4GB more. Does this really make that much of a difference to you?
I mean compared to a 32GB microSD card this is pretty much no difference.
So far, I still have about 7GB free, so I am pretty fine how it is righ now.
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Well, after compressing my music (the bulk of my SD card) to 32kbit, 4GB can fit another ~3500 songs. So it's a huge difference! With the 32 GB card I had plenty of empty space to dump movies, but every MB helps
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Well, after compressing my music (the bulk of my SD card) to 32kbit, 4GB can fit another ~3500 songs. So it's a huge difference! With the 32 GB card I had plenty of empty space to dump movies, but every MB helps
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Wow doesn't that music sound like garbage at such a low bit rate ? The only music I keep on my phone is .FLACs @ 980-1200kbs, or .mp3s @320kbs.
USB HOST
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True, but that's the sacrifice you make when buying a phone with a fixed storage of just 16 gb. But other then moving stuff to dropbox and removing them from your phone I don't think there are many options.. At least not until usb-host comes to our phones You could also buy an mp3 player for music (and a camera for pictures and a handheld console for gaming xD )
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What about that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629134
Anyone with a rooted phone already tried it?
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What about that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629134
Anyone with a rooted phone already tried it?
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Well... the obvious problem is that the One S does not supply power through the micro USB port so anything you plug in will have to get power from somewhere else. Hence, regardless whether it works or not it would not be particularly useful as you need an additional power source for the USB device, like a car charger or a wall charger, which basically throws mobility out the window. Chances are that if you're near an additional power source, i.e. a wall charger, you're also near a computer so there's no point to use a USB memory stick when you have a few hundred gigs available on the HDD of your computer...
On a similar theme I've installed Sygic navigation software. Once you install the app you then download a country map (UK in my case). Map is about 350mb and also installs approx another 400mb which I think is a one off and will be part of the program. This is all installed to sdcard partition and no choice is given (that I noticed). As I've plenty of room on data partition I wondered if there is a way to move/force sygic folder there? I'm guessing as a minimum root would be required. I'm not pushed for space on sdcard but every mb counts on the One S
As I wrote in another thread, I think the best (but costly and slightly cumbersome) way for us to live with only 9.xxGB without using GBs of data per months will be to rely on portable wifi storage. Lookup for Kingston Wi-Drive and Seagate Satellite Wireless drives.
I've had to make hard choices about what I'm keeping on my phone. I also had a 32GB microSD with tons of music, movies, videos, pics, apps, backups, CoPilot Live maps...
No way it's fitting now. I've had to decide what really *needs* to be on my phone and ax the rest. Would love to see a hardware mod for replacing the stock memory flash with a 32GB microSD... just sayin.
My internal storage is maxed out. I have already moved everything I possibly can to my SD card.
I am thinking about merging the internal and SD storage, but have read that will cause tablet efficiency to drop. I am not sure how much. I am on the last update from Samsung which is 5.0.2 but am willing to root and try another ROM. Open to suggestions.
Thanks.
*Comixology is a digital comic book reader and store. They only allow comics to be downloaded to internal storage. If the comics get moved, the app will not read them.
Most comics are getting HD upgrades which is compounding the issue. I can use the browser site, but comics load slow, and flipping through pages too fast seem to break the site and the comic page will hang up and not load. The app is much faster and has a better page preview system. Plus I travel a lot so the app is the best course for me. I am in the comic industry and need access to the comics quickly and efficiently. I also live abroad (not in the US where most of the comics are from) and move quite often so purchasing paper versions is often not an option.
Some comics can be downloaded as a PDF (I think all image and quite a few inidies). I have already downloaded them and moved them to the SD and deleted them from the internal, but still am maxed out on space.
Digital Dark Horse allows comics to be downloaded to external storage. But their app is not as nice to use as Comixology, so I would prefer to buy DH titles on comixology as well.
That is one of the problems with Android tablets and phones. Since some programs insist on loading their stuff on internal memory, when it gets full you are out of luck. They do that to keep you from copying their stuff and selling or giving it away.
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That is one of the problems with Android tablets and phones. Since some programs insist on loading their stuff on internal memory, when it gets full you are out of luck. They do that to keep you from copying their stuff and selling or giving it away.
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Thanks Treetopsranch. And yes, I am aware of the issue and the reasons for some time now. Unfortunately the consequences are just now catching up to me. Several messages a year to comixology always gets the same response. We are not implementing it at this time but will pass this on to the developers so they are aware of the issue.
Have you tried folder mount? I used it for making my music player think that my music is in the internal storage.
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Have you tried folder mount? I used it for making my music player think that my music is in the internal storage.
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I have not tried folder mount. You mean like this one?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en
Sounds promising. I am rooted so I can give this a try. Thanks for the suggestion and I will post my results.
edit: Can't add the app. Out of space....Gonna have to get to this after work today ?
Yes that one
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Yes that one
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Oogely Moogely! I transferred 13 gigs of comics to my external SD and they all open no problem at all. No lag or anything from what I can tell. I am now downloading the other 120 comics I had to remove to make space for new comics. (Some of those are single issue and some are graphic novels)
This is soooo helpful cause I am in the middle of making a comic and being able to access old "30 Days of Night" comics I had deleted is what I need when I get stuck or not sure how to go about something. Ahhh the access. And not using the horribly slow browser interface.
For anyone else: The data does not show on your internal storage when you check storage from your devices settings menu. It does show if you use something like DiskUsage. Diskusage also says it scanned %178 of my internal storage, so I guess it just adds what is not really there in the scan % but also says I have no free space, which I do. About %50 free space now.
EDIT: Just realized that comixology does not download comics in the background when the tablet goes to sleep. So you have to keep the screen on I guess. I couldn't find a setting for this in the app. Not sure if there is something under tablet settings.
If I find any drawback from this app I will post them here.
Well, how comes that you need them all at the same time? Why not download and delete them separately?
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Well, how comes that you need them all at the same time? Why not download and delete them separately?
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Well, I'm a comic artist and I often need reference or ideas from my peers. It helps me keep my art fresh and less stagnant. So when I remember how Tocchini colored an underwater scene in LOW, or how Samnee used a cool panel layout in Blackwidow, I can quickly reference what I need. The browser sucks for this because it is super slow and the page index is not as nice. Also, my tablet is my 2nd monitor so that is where the comics are the most useful.
Ah, I see, very interesting, but this seems to be a very specific use case most consumers don't depend on.
macmobile said:
Ah, I see, very interesting, but this seems to be a very specific use case most consumers don't depend on.
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I agree. But, re-downloading every time you want to read something, even for a consumer, is still ****ty. I am not sure what your point is though.
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I agree. But, re-downloading every time you want to read something, even for a consumer, is still ****ty. I am not sure what your point is though.
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Of course it would be better if you can choose yourself where to save your comics. But a normal use case looks like this: download on demand, read, delete, next.