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[Q] Can this phone work on AT&T?

Its very annoying that phone models are locked into specific carriers (hope this changes in the future) but im currently on AT&T, which in my area has the best overall signal coverage. Can this phone be put on the ATT network?
Is this phone a good one? My roommate just got the Incredible 2, and im liking the Thunderbolt, but thinking i need to jump on the Dual core market. I currently have a Touch pro 2, which is ok, but SLOW.
Also, what features does this phone have? HTC's own site seems selective on what they post on their specs (they tend to leave out common features on some phones)
Things I like on the thunderbolt spec sheet are..
Dual mics with noise cancellation, Compass sensor, G-Sensor, Proximity sensor (not sure what this is used for), Light sensor, 3.5mm audio jack, MicroUSB, FM radio. (i also like the kick stand)
The G-Sensor i think is pretty standard these days, tho not sure what they mean by the Compass sensor, id be great if it actually had a compass in it.
But this phone doesn't list ANY special features on HTC site.
Thanks in advance.

The Bell model gets At&t bands
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charlieb620 said:
The Bell model gets At&t bands
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the What model?

Lyian said:
the What model?
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Bell is a Canadian phone company (pretty sure) and has the same bands as ATT so their phones are compatible. If you're gonna jump onto the dual-core wagon, check out the SGS2 phones (i'm pretty sure ATT has one coming to them soon if not already...) Then you wont need to unlock or worry about compatibility

The sensation 4g will work on att, but you won't get 3g data.
Of the specs you listed regarding the Thunderbolt, the sensation 4g has all those features, minus a kickstand.
Also, the proximity sensor is used to detect close or far objects. An example of it in use is when you put your ear up to the phone during a call, and the screen automatically turns off, then turns back on when you move away from it.
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Don't try to get the tmobile version. You won't get anything above 2g.
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The Bell (Canadian) model (Z710A) will work on AT&T 3G. The T-Mobile or European versions will work on AT&T, but they will only connect with EDGE data speeds, not 3G.

I'm not overly concerned about data really, unless i'm forced to pay for it. The Touch Pro 2 i have now i bought unlocked so i didn't have to pay for data.
Also, the proximity sensor is used to detect close or far objects. An example of it in use is when you put your ear up to the phone during a call, and the screen automatically turns off, then turns back on when you move away from it.
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I thought the light sensor did that? My TP2 does that, but doesn't mention a prox. sensor.

The Bell model gets 3G bands but is locked at the moment. It should be unlocked next week:
http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html
the t-Mo and Euro versions work but only allow 2G

You shouldn't have a required data plan if you pay cash for the phone.
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Funk2641 said:
The Bell model gets 3G bands but is locked at the moment. It should be unlocked next week:
http://negrielectronics.com/htc-z710a-sensation-850-1900-3g.html
the t-Mo and Euro versions work but only allow 2G
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Eww.. I paied that much for my TP2, i cant really afford that again... i might be stuck with a contract Which id bet i couldnt get this.. this sucks lol.
Hows the speaker on this phone? My TP2 has dual speaker and has pretty good quality (also has a handy mic mute on the back). It also uses the sensor and switch's it to speaker when i flip the phone over (lying on the screen) Can this phone, or others do that or is that a TP2 specific thing?
Well, nobody around here offers this phone.. Which sucks. Ive been watching reviews on both This and the SGS2. While the SGS2 looks like a nice phone, and seems to be pretty comparable, i like how the Sensation looks alitlte more. The button placement, and the more 'roundness of it is more to my taste than then square 'iphone-iks' looking SGS2. Hell id proly be willing to start using a data plan if i could get this phone on att. (tmobile isnt in my area, if they are their coverage isnt good.)

Lyian said:
Eww.. I paied that much for my TP2, i cant really afford that again... i might be stuck with a contract Which id bet i couldnt get this.. this sucks lol.
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$550CAD straight from Bell Canada, which won't really help you much if you don't live in Canada or near the border. Once they're carrier unlocked and have custom ROMS I'll drive up and pick up a Bell model to use on AT&T, can't wait

ok.. i was wrong.. T-mobile is apparently in my area. I have no personal experiences with them however and none of my friends use them, so not sure how well they work in my area. Its food for thought tho.

Where are you located?
Chances are you aren't in a 3G coverage area which is good news because you can skip out on paying through the nose for a data plan... just opt for the 200MB no overage "unlimited" throttle point data plan and you're good to go. Voice coverage is probably still a concern but if it's just bad at your house T-Mobile has WiFi calling which uses your WiFi network to place and receive calls and texts

heygrl said:
Where are you located?
Chances are you aren't in a 3G coverage area which is good news because you can skip out on paying through the nose for a data plan... just opt for the 200MB no overage "unlimited" throttle point data plan and you're good to go. Voice coverage is probably still a concern but if it's just bad at your house T-Mobile has WiFi calling which uses your WiFi network to place and receive calls and texts
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im around IU campus in Indiana. Their map shows 'average' coverage around town, but i know how exaggerated/inaccurate those maps can be.
As far as the data, from what ive seen, it includes up to 4g
Unlimited high-speed data access (first 200 MB at up to 4G speeds on capable devices)
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You are correct, 3g isn't in this area, let alone 4g (and from what i've told, nobody except Verizon has 'true 4g' anyway)
I dono, i guess im just use to ATT lol. Still, even with a new contract its 200 bucks upfront, which i cant afford atm. Still, im kinda drooling over this phone lol. Im over WinMo

Lyian said:
Im over WinMo
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about time.
If there are wal-marts in your part of the country, I hear they have it for $148.88

lol, yea, otherside of town has one, but blah buying one from wal-mart. Somehow i dont trust them to set things up correctly. Transferring my number and whatnot. It will take a month or two for me to have the money in any event.
i kinda hate that every place has different deals. T-mobile itslef has a higher upfront cost, ($250) but a lower monthly charge (59.99) but Newegg has a lower upfront ($150) but a higher monthly (69.99). The monthly cost seems to differ in the data.. Tmoble charing 10, newegg 20.
Bah!

@ Lyian Keep an eye out on the tmobile website. Just last Wed/Thurs (for lilke 24 hours) they were selling the Sensation for free with new contracts/new lines of service.
Keep an eye out tmo does that all the time.

If anyone wants to know I have a Sensation from T-mobile in Puerto Rico and I noticed that it says in the box that it works on 1700, 1900 and 2100 frequencies for data which means it can work on AT&T.
I'll try to unblock it later and see if it really works.

Lyian said:
Hows the speaker on this phone? My TP2 has dual speaker and has pretty good quality (also has a handy mic mute on the back). It also uses the sensor and switch's it to speaker when i flip the phone over (lying on the screen) Can this phone, or others do that or is that a TP2 specific thing?
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The speaker isn't that good for most apps. But for certain apps (like Google Music) it's really loud. I don't know why. Most people have overcome this problem by using the Equalizer app or Volume+ though. And yes, it can do that.

[Q] Best value 3g dongle

I'm looking to use my tablet whilst out and about and I am currently in the USA so I wanted to make the most of the exchange rate.

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I'm looking to use my tablet whilst out and about and I am currently in the USA so I wanted to make the most of the exchange rate.
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I too am curious about this, but from here in the U.K. How does tethering to a phone compare, how to go about tethering?
Sorry mate, not trying to hijack your thread.
Seg

i wouldnt bother with a dongle. i am on t-mobile in the uk, have a samsung GS2 and use the portable hotspot functionality to use my 3G connection on my transformer when out and about. it so east to setup a child could do it and it works a treat.
if your phone has hotspot functionality use that instead. so much easier than a dongle and it means you arent paying twice for 3G connection.

bob dylan said:
i wouldnt bother with a dongle. i am on t-mobile in the uk, have a samsung GS2 and use the portable hotspot functionality to use my 3G connection on my transformer when out and about. it so east to setup a child could do it and it works a treat.
if your phone has hotspot functionality use that instead. so much easier than a dongle and it means you arent paying twice for 3G connection.
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I would have definately done this, but I sold my sgs2 to pay for my tf. Do you know of any other phone which can do this? Obviously cheapest is the key for me at the mo.
Seg

I unfortunately have one of the few windows phones that doesn't and wont (I don't think) support portable hotspot. Plus id rather not have to worry about another thing to charge.

Bongo2k said:
I unfortunately have one of the few windows phones that doesn't and wont (I don't think) support portable hotspot. Plus id rather not have to worry about another thing to charge.
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But wouldnt you be charging your phone every night anyway Bongo?
Seg

I am probably going to give my phone to my GF or retire it while I see how the whole tablet thing works out

Seg2012 said:
I would have definately done this, but I sold my sgs2 to pay for my tf. Do you know of any other phone which can do this? Obviously cheapest is the key for me at the mo.
Seg
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pretty much any decent android phone has the hotspot functionality, eg my old htc desire used to do it too.
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I am probably going to give my phone to my GF or retire it while I see how the whole tablet thing works out
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you do know you cant use your tablet as phone you know?!
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i bought the extended battery from samsung, gives me 2 and half days of heavy useage out of one charge
eg i was using the hotspot functionality at work for about 3 hours today, phone went from 97% charged to 80% charged.
it works a treat for me.

Last I checked skype pretty much worked well enough to replace a phone

You can tether to a phone via WiFi just fine, but most people travelling internationally are not blessed. In ten days, if I try to roam, it will cost me $10 per megabyte. Also, it will burn through your phones battery faster (my old phone would die maybe 2x - 2.5x faster).
3G dongles, you should be able to preload with data when you get in country or preload with suitable data service before going abroad. That makes them useful.
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3 do a 3g mifi dingle at 10gbp/more you can unlock it easily and put any 3g sum in it, works for me

I meant which brand/model is ts best value for money...

Unbranded phone= no roaming charges if you have an in country sim.I.e. I use my phone in Germany on a German sim. Its not rocket science
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So no one can give me any recommendations?

An alternative approach
I don't know of a USB 3G modem that can be plugged in to the Transformer. I do have a sim-lock-free 3G Huawei K3520 modem (recognized as an E620 in GNU/Linux, and purportedly compatible with the E169). However I have not tried to get it to work with my Transformer (ie I have not plugged it in), so I can not say whether it works.
Instead I plug this USB 3G modem into a very small portable Edimax 3G-6218N mobile router that I own, and I use that to broadcast a local WAN that I log in with my Asus Transformer. I carry Edimax router around with me.
This Edimax 3G-6218N mobile router is both slightly smaller and SIGNIFICANTLY lighter than my Blackberry mobile phone, and it is easy to carry around. Why so ?
Because typically when I am outside, I have my Asus Tranformer inside my backback. Well the Edimax 3G-6218N mobile router and the 3G Huawei K3520 modem take up next to no additional space in the backpack, and their weight is insignificant compared to the Transformer and basic backpack weight.
By using the 3G Huawei K3520 modem and Edimax 3G-6218N mobile router combination, both my wife (with her iPod) and myself (with my Transformer) can access the Internet at the same time with one 3G account, saving money.
During one test, we had connected at the same time to this 3G Huawei K3520 modem and Edimax 3G-6218N mobile router combination:
Asus Transformer TF-101B
iPod Touch 3G
Lenovo X220 laptop
Dell Studio 1537 laptop
Blackberry Torch phone using its wireless
all sharing the same 3G connection. It would be a LOT more expensive to have to have a separate 3G account for each device.
I know this is not the answer you are looking for, and my apologies for that. But I think it worth considering on your part.

There's a thread about using dongles with the transformer but there's lots of compatible dongles, i don't want to have to go through the entire list finding which one is cheapest.

Bongo2k said:
There's a thread about using singles with the transformer but there's lots of compatible dongles, i don't wantcto have to go through the entire list finding which one is cheapest.
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in the time you have waited for someone to suggest something you could have gone through that list and ordered the cheapest one!!

oldcpu, that's def' best value but highest initial investment. I like the idea though and will probably borrow it someday
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in the time you have waited for someone to suggest something you could have gone through that list and ordered the cheapest one!!
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Guess I'll have to do that then

What's better?... P6200, P6210, or P6201-N

Just thought I would make a topic to see which one of the GT7+ models are better. what's everyone opinion about all the models. wifi only v.s 3g.. Having an IR blaster v.s not having one.
I have the P6210
1- I like having the option of having the IR but what's the point? There is not really any apps out there that work with it, plus the app that comes with the tab doesn't work on older TVs so I never use it.
2- Since the one I have is wifi only after having it for a few months now I wish I had the 3g version. I bought the 7 inch for portability but once I leave my house it becomes an oversized gaming device, since there's not much I can do without internet connection. so I end up tethering it to my phone which kills the battery extremely fast.
so what's your opinion?
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I personally think that connectivity is the key of all these devices. Wifi only just does not make any sense to me. 3G all the way...

I got the wifi version and bluetooth tether to phone for data. Why would I want two data charges?

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I got the wifi version and bluetooth tether to phone for data. Why would I want two data charges?
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I second this.. I always have my phone around if I need to tether the tab. The additional cost of the device paired with the data plan is not worth it
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I was thinking about that, meaning tethering to a phone... Not everyone can tether to there phone some people have older phones that don't support tethering... plus you can't tether unless your phone is rooted (which mine is of course) without getting a really big phone bill, as far as I know but I could be wrong. Wifi only its not to bad, I guess I can carry around a cell phone charger (since tethering kills my battery) rather than paying a extra data charge
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This is why I love NOT living in the USA.
It only costs me 10GBP/month for unlimited data on my GT-P6200.

acolwill said:
It only costs me 10GBP/month for unlimited data on my GT-P6200.
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Same here in Honduras, 30 $ a month unlimited 3G , and I use my P6200 as my primary and only phone

WiFi or 3G
The WiFi or 3G argument depends on how you intend to use your tab. I bought the WiFi only tab because I honestly have no use for 3G on my tab. It would just be another bill. I pretty much only use my tab where I have access to WiFi as it is though. I had bought it because I was getting tired of dragging my laptop into meetings or around the office for various reasons. We have full WiFi coverage everywhere at work so the tab comes in handy for quick checking of my mail or my calendar and it is perfect for taking notes and such in meetings. When I go home, the tab comes home with me and once at home I connect it to my WiFi. If I am out and about town and need to check my e-mail or checkout something on the Internet I just use my smartphone and usually do not have my tab with me anyway when doing things out and about. About the only other time I bring my tab with me is if I am headed over to a friends for awhile. All of my friends have WiFi so WiFi only is still not an issue. So as you can see, at least in my case 3G would just be a needless and unwanted monthly bill.

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This is why I love NOT living in the USA.
It only costs me 10GBP/month for unlimited data on my GT-P6200.
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May I ask how much you paid for your Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus?
I personally think 3G on tablets is a waste of money (keyword: personally). I'm never going to pull out my 7" tablet in the middle of the street to check something when I also have a smartphone. And if I'm sitting down somewhere, most likely there'll be Wifi.

Thinking about coming to the dark side..

What's up One X peeps? I am currently with Sprint on a Galaxy S2 in the Bristol, Tn area. Not so great of service and it is only 3g coverage for Sprint here so far(no plans in the future to add LTE here as far as I know...which is stupid because the race track is sponsored by Sprint and yet they have the worst service in the area duhuh..)...aaanyway, I am considering AT&T because I can pay a little extra and have 4g almost anywhere I go in the Tri Cities. So I am torn between the S3 and the One X. I have had Sense phones and touchwiz phones so I am really asking if anyone would care to share what they love about their One X and why they chose it over the S3. They are both remarkable but I am honestly leaning toward the One X because it is different in an appealing kind of way. I am just an average user other than rooting every phone I get my hands on. Browsing, texting, listening to music with headphones, email, etc. I had a Nexus S 4G before the S2 and a Hero before that. I have loved all of my phones but I kind of want something different right now. It also helps that the One X is on sale for $99 until September.

Funny you mentioned the race track, I'm right by Pocono and there is no lte either lol, oh wait there's no service at all by the SPRINT sponsored race track! Lolol. So glad I'm on att now
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DO IT. I was with Sprint for 5 years, and ever since they got the iPhone my 3G speeds were simply atrocious. How good is having unlimited data when you're pulling 0.5mbps down(on a good day)? And I'm in a network vision completed area! The difference really is night and day, and so damn worth it.
Also, battery life on the One X with LTE is better than my EVO 4G, EVO 3D and Galaxy Nexus ever had on 3G... TIMES TWO. I've left my phone unplugged for eight hours when going to bed, to wake up and find out it only used 2% battery. ON LTE.
There really is no contest here. It's even worth paying an ETF. I sold my (mint condition) Galaxy Nexus on ebay for $350 and paid my ETF with that.
Good luck!

I was a Sprint customer for a decade and finally got fed up with their data speeds. What's the point of unlimited data if you can't even use it? After a brief trial with Verizon, I made the move to AT&T in January and couldn't be happier. The HOX is an absolute beast of a phone and coupled with AT&T's blazing LTE speeds (and even their fast-enough HSPA+ when LTE isn't available) it's pretty much unstoppable. I had heard horror stories about AT&T's customer service before coming over here but my experience with them has been nothing but positive, and I have tested the patience of more than a handful of AT&T reps since making the move. They are friendly, somewhat knowledgeable, they do try to help as best they can, and best of all- they are incredibly easy to manipulate. Do it man, you'll be glad you did.

The main reason I left sprint was due to the horrible 3G speeds. You know how bad it feels to see buffering every 5 seconds on sprint watching youtube? The slowest speed I've got on ATT was 6mbps, thats more than enough for anything I need to do. Sprint, I was barely able to do 0.5mpbs with full bars, pathetic.
Good bye Sprint, You won't ever see me again. I'm paying $10 more a month, but its we'll worth it.

Yeah, I am thinking it is going to be worth the transfer. It doesnt seem too crazy to get root and unlock the bootloader from what I have read so I am sure I can manage. The only work arpund I will have to find is the storage but dropbox is offering the 25gb space still if I am not mistaken.

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Yeah, I am thinking it is going to be worth the transfer. It doesnt seem too crazy to get root and unlock the bootloader from what I have read so I am sure I can manage. The only work arpund I will have to find is the storage but dropbox is offering the 25gb space still if I am not mistaken.
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The latest firmware version (2.20) is not currently rootable, although its being worked on. No root also means no bootloader unlock. It seems that based on reports here, a lot of newly purchased One X's have 2.20 pre-installed. Maybe you can find a store with some older stock (1.73 and 1.85 are okay). But if you need root and unlocked BL right now, be aware when buying.
Also, I think AT&T stopped supporting the Dropbox promotion a while ago.

I'd recommend the secondary market vs buying a new one at this point.

Att gave me a $175 trade on my Epic 4G touch when I came from sprint a month ago...best decision I made in a long time.
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come on over! I honestly don't know how people put up with Sprint's data speeds. Also, I don't have any complaints with AT&T except I'm patiently waiting for LTE in Denver (HSPA+ is good enough, but why put up with "good enough" ). I've been with the company since their Cingular days and won't be going anywhere for a while (unless I jump over to Straight Talk to save some $$)

The S3 has better hardware specs but the HOX is better looking.
Basically it comes down to sd card/more ram/removable battery vs better screen and build quality.
IMO the S3 is ugly as sin, with a dated, pedestrian design (seriously, a physical home button?). But some people like it.
If you're a power user you may be better off with the S3 because of the better multitasking (more ram) and storage space. If looks and design matter to you, go with the HOX.
I came from iOS, so the sd card slot and battery were not really a big deal, while the design was.
AT&T's coverage is not as big as Verizon's but the data speeds are nice. Their customer service has always been pretty good on most issues (exceptions being the various things they like to lock down--but Verizon has always been far worse about that anyway).

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What's up One X peeps? I am currently with Sprint on a Galaxy S2 in the Bristol, Tn area. Not so great of service and it is only 3g coverage for Sprint here so far(no plans in the future to add LTE here as far as I know...which is stupid because the race track is sponsored by Sprint and yet they have the worst service in the area duhuh..)...aaanyway, I am considering AT&T because I can pay a little extra and have 4g almost anywhere I go in the Tri Cities. So I am torn between the S3 and the One X. I have had Sense phones and touchwiz phones so I am really asking if anyone would care to share what they love about their One X and why they chose it over the S3. They are both remarkable but I am honestly leaning toward the One X because it is different in an appealing kind of way. I am just an average user other than rooting every phone I get my hands on. Browsing, texting, listening to music with headphones, email, etc. I had a Nexus S 4G before the S2 and a Hero before that. I have loved all of my phones but I kind of want something different right now. It also helps that the One X is on sale for $99 until September.
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Nexus
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if you want a year old device and pentile....nexus.
if you want up to date hardware and a fawking amazing screen..HOX
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if you want a year old device and pentile....nexus.
if you want up to date hardware and a fawking amazing screen..HOX
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U know how ppl who have sprint deal with the horrid speeds? by never experiencing good speeds..lol..I've never saw over a mb/s unless on my airave or WiFi....I don't even attempt doing stuff when I'm out and about that requires more than minimal bandwidth..but I'm in the early 2nd round of network vision so hopefully that will change ..if 6mb/s is slow for you then I'm jealous..can't imagine u need much more than that for anything..YouTube app still buffers for me on WiFi when playing hd content..and its 20 down..anyone else have that issue ?

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U know how ppl who have sprint deal with the horrid speeds? by never experiencing good speeds..lol..I've never saw over a mb/s unless on my airave or WiFi....I don't even attempt doing stuff when I'm out and about that requires more than minimal bandwidth..but I'm in the early 2nd round of network vision so hopefully that will change ..if 6mb/s is slow for you then I'm jealous..can't imagine u need much more than that for anything..YouTube app still buffers for me on WiFi when playing hd content..and its 20 down..anyone else have that issue ?
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What does "buffers" mean?
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The LTE service that I get is so fast, there is ZERO difference from WiFi, and can even be faster in some cases. When I start watching a video on youtube and switch to HD, it starts playing immediately. I can't even begin to explain how much faster it is compared to even Sprint's solid WiMAX service here in Boston.
Speaking of WiMAX, LTE on AT&T runs at 700mhz, so LTE signals penetrate buildings even better than 3G and voice if you can believe it. I remember with WiMAX my signal would drop if I stepped over a shadow.
And while I've seen bursts of up to 60mbps(I kid you not), It's the insanely low ping times(about 30ms) that make you feel like you're using WiFi.

I think I will go for it. It will cost probably $10-20 mpre a month because pf the discpunt I get with Sprint through my bank...but again, I am tired of waiting for service and having to constantly roam with roamcontrol just to make a phone call in my apartment. I will try to get time to give more thanks later. I believe I talked myself into it earlier today. Design and feel mean a lot to me. And if those Apple fanbois are happy with no removable battery or sd card then I can manage too lol. Thank you all for your input!

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What does "buffers" mean?
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It's pretty much is what I get to see while attempting to watch any video content LOL..

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If you want amazing dev nexus if you want bad aosp dev due to att being good one x
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[Q] Samsung Note 10.1 N8100 or USA Samsung Note 10.1

I was just about to place order on Amazon for the Samsung Note 10.1 32gb but then came across the unlocked version of the 10.1 16gb. My question is which one to get? I like that the unlocked version is 3g wifi but the American version isnt. Are these 2 tablets similar in specs aside from the 3G?
Any suggestions would be helpful. I want to buy it like tomorrow.
Thanks
Jacquie

Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.

Samsung Note 10.1 N8100 or USA Samsung Note 10.1
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Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.
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Thanks for the info!
Wait but the 3G version is dual core and the external memory slot only can only extend to 32 GB? Isnt the American version quad core and can be extended to 64gb?
I am currently with AT&T, is the 3G version compatible for me to subscribe to their data plan? I also have an Ipad 3 and is it possible for me to switch the sim card to this tablet?
What is JB? How much difference does it make compared to the WiFi version?
thanks

boredy said:
Thanks for the info!
Wait but the 3G version is dual core and the external memory slot only can only extend to 32 GB? Isnt the American version quad core and can be extended to 64gb?
I am currently with AT&T, is the 3G version compatible for me to subscribe to their data plan? I also have an Ipad 3 and is it possible for me to switch the sim card to this tablet?
What is JB? How much difference does it make compared to the WiFi version?
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Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.

blud7 said:
Aside from 3G, they're more or less identical specs wise. Of course the WiFi version hasn't gotten JB yet, so maybe that is a consideration for you.
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Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.
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Thanks BarryH_GEG!
Yes I am looking at the N8000 version and the American WiFi Version. Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
Yeah I have old phones what I can use for that matter to get unlimited data.
Thank you.

boredy said:
Thanks BarryH_GEG!
Yes I am looking at the N8000 version and the American WiFi Version. Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
Yeah I have old phones what I can use for that matter to get unlimited data.
Thank you.
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I'd say get the WiFi one if you are around WiFi a lot and don't need it on the run. If you are not around WiFi a lot get the 3g model and need it away from WiFi. And they are the same except 3g
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boredy said:
Are they both essentially the same in specs aside from 3G? Which would you recommend purchasing?
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They're both the same specs wise. The difference between the N8000 and other wireless-capable tablets is that it's a full-fledged phone.
I had a Wi-Fi only tablet for about 30 days a year ago and swapped it for 3G. Here are some benefits:
To me, being able to whip the tablet out anywhere and use it instantly is a big plus. At airports, restaurants, coffee shops, and hotel lobbies you don't know if there's Wi-Fi available or not and have to spend time checking. If it is available you have to figure out how to connect to it. Tethering's an option but is a pain in the ass. Get out phone, turn on Wi-Fi, connect tablet, disconnect tablet, turn off phone Wi-FI. Forget the last step and you phone's battery is toast. It's toast anyway from acting as a hot spot for any length of time. Having a tablet with 3G and a huge battery lets you be online to your heart’s content. Tethered to a phone you'll only last as long as the phone's battery. The only upside to tethering is better data speeds if you’re connecting to an LTE phone. My HSPA+ speeds on AT&T are about 5-6MB on average and fine for streaming Netflix, YouTube, and the like. My phone's on a HSPA $10 data plan also.
If you have lots of syncs set up connecting to Wi-Fi after the tablet's been offline can take several minutes before it's fully usable because all of the background processes slow it down. With it always connected its usable instantly and all your syncs are up to date as soon as you turn it on.
Because the Note's a phone I use it for long conference calls rather than draining my phone's battery. I also replicate everything on both devices so if I want to respond to a short e-mail I'll use the phone. For longer e-mails or where I need to add attachments I'll use the tablet. A good example is at an airport gate area. I can be online with the Note and if boarding's called I just stuff it in my briefcase.
To me, the $20 a month to AT&T is worth the freedom. Also, AT&T's dramatically lowered the price of their international data packages. I buy one for my Note when I'm traveling and it's great for looking stuff up, navigation, editing pics to send home, etc. How much any of this applies to you or anyone else here is all a matter of personal preference.

I had a Wi-Fi only tablet for about 30 days a year ago and swapped it for 3G. Here are some benefits:
To me, being able to whip the tablet out anywhere and use it instantly is a big plus. At airports, restaurants, coffee shops, and hotel lobbies you don't know if there's Wi-Fi available or not and have to spend time checking. If it is available you have to figure out how to connect to it. Tethering's an option but is a pain in the ass. Get out phone, turn on Wi-Fi, connect tablet, disconnect tablet, turn off phone Wi-FI. Forget the last step and you phone's battery is toast. It's toast anyway from acting as a hot spot for any length of time. Having a tablet with 3G and a huge battery lets you be online to your heart’s content. Tethered to a phone you'll only last as long as the phone's battery. The only upside to tethering is better data speeds if you’re connecting to an LTE phone. My HSPA+ speeds on AT&T are about 5-6MB on average and fine for streaming Netflix, YouTube, and the like. My phone's on a HSPA $10 data plan also.
If you have lots of syncs set up connecting to Wi-Fi after the tablet's been offline can take several minutes before it's fully usable because all of the background processes slow it down. With it always connected its usable instantly and all your syncs are up to date as soon as you turn it on.
Because the Note's a phone I use it for long conference calls rather than draining my phone's battery. I also replicate everything on both devices so if I want to respond to a short e-mail I'll use the phone. For longer e-mails or where I need to add attachments I'll use the tablet. A good example is at an airport gate area. I can be online with the Note and if boarding's called I just stuff it in my briefcase.
To me, the $20 a month to AT&T is worth the freedom. Also, AT&T's dramatically lowered the price of their international data packages. I buy one for my Note when I'm traveling and it's great for looking stuff up, navigation, editing pics to send home, etc. How much any of this applies to you or anyone else here is all a matter of personal preference.[/QUOTE]
The N8000 only comes in 16bg right? Is there a 32gig out there? I mean 16 gig difference is alot? Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.
I dont do much sync, I like that it has phone capability and I can use international data when I travel. I use it mostly for games, reading and movie watching. Currently I have Samsung Note phone and I love it! I also use my ipad 3.

Just a quick response to the second post. I've also seen on a few sites like Amazon and Walmart where they list some of the 32gb notes as being dual core and some as having only 1gb of ram. I'm sure it's a mistake of the website. Just wanted to share what I read.
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BarryH_GEG said:
Huh? There are five Note 10.1's:
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version.
4) N8013 - North American Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
Other than the 3G/LTE radios all five are physically identical and storage can be either 16/32/64GB based on the model.
There are a few of us using it on AT&T. You can add the 3G version to your plan as either a tablet or a phone. If you pick tablet the phone and MMS features won’t work. Since its IMEI isn't in AT&T's database you can also add it to your plan as a non-smartphone and get unlimited data for $10 a month (plus $9.99 a month for the additional line). You'll need to get the IMEI off of a non-smartphone to give to AT&T when you set up service. Buy a cheap GoPhone at Walmart and use its IMEI. Or write the floor model’s down.
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Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.

TheWerewolf said:
Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.
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Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.

boredy said:
Is this tablet flash compatible? I want to watch some movies and the app/website requires flash.
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Yes most if not all android tablets support flash in web browser, but you need to sideload it
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TheWerewolf said:
Small amendment..
1) N8000 - International 3G with quad-band HSPA and a dialer and MMS function that basically make it a giant phone.
2) N8005 - A 3G model sold in Turkey with the dialer disabled.
3) N8010 - International Wi-Fi version including Canada
4) N8013 - US Wi-Fi version.
5) N8020 - An N8000 with an LTE radio.
The US is *not* North America. There are three countries in North America: Canada, United States and Mexico. As far as I know, the 8013 is US only. Canada gets the 8010. I'm not sure which one Mexico gets, probably the 8010 as well.
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Can someone tell me if this tablet is flash compatible? I like to go facebook to play some of their games, watch some TV and movies.
Thanks

boredy said:
Can someone tell me if this tablet is flash compatible? I like to go facebook to play some of their games, watch some TV and movies.
Thanks
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Uh, really?
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SkizzMcNizz said:
Uh, really?
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Uh really what? I am asking for help and not sarcasm. foh.

No. Please go get an Ipad. Bye.
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KoRoZIV said:
No. Please go get an Ipad. Bye.
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What's all these hostility in here?
I already have Ipad and just bought a 10.1 N8000 arriving tmw. You people have issues, I feel sorry for your life.
Merry Christmas!

It's not hostility, just sarcasm. And you deserve it. You already got an answer about flash but you chose to ignore it. And you keep using quote from the most recent post, a bad habit that ruins most topics.
Happy holidays.
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KoRoZIV said:
It's not hostility, just sarcasm. And you deserve it. You already got an answer about flash but you chose to ignore it. And you keep using quote from the most recent post, a bad habit that ruins most topics.
Happy holidays.
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I didnt see the post and you are too quick to give your assumptions by being sarcastic. What do you mean I deserve it? Who the heck are you to tell say that you bum. You coulda said something like someone already posted. but I guess you rather use sarcasm than being helpful. dude if I read it, why I would repost the question again? that's common sense for a normal person.
Get on with your woeful sarcasm life.

Relax "dude". Don't get mad, I'm the one with the issues...
Common sense will be not to quote the last post, to edit and correct your topic title, or to post in the correct section of the forum, but who am I to educate you.
My intention was not to offend you, I apologize if I did.
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