Hey guys,
I've got an odd problem with samsung stock music player on my note 10.1.
Every playlist I add to the device is (dis)played upside down. At first i suspected isyncr, which i use to sync my Itunes with the note, to be the problem - but it turned out it is not.
I already did the following:
checked the m3u playlist isyncr generates with a text editor - everything fine
cleared data of stock music player
cleared data of "media storage"
created a playlist with a 3rd party player (amazon) => reverse order in samsung player, correct order in poweramp, player pro
created a playlist with samsung player => reverse order in 3rd party players (amazon, poweramp, player pro)
searched the internet and xda
asked samsung support for help - twice
Internet knows a similar problem with samsung fascinate without any solution, here on xda i found an old thread which i suspect describes the same problem on a different device (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404735), but also without a solution or idea.
I can hardly believe there is such a bug in the stock music app and hardly anyone steps into it. I also find it hard to believe that samsung had this bug in Fascinate's music player, fixed it in the Galaxy S2's (which i also own and doesn't have this problem), just to re-integrate it in the Note 10.1.
Samsung support is not able to give any qualified answers and rather tries to force me to use kies (which I even tried, but despite its poor performance cannot help me with this problem). I will, however, try to ask them a 3rd time.
The Problem existed in ICS ROM as well as in Jelly Bean, which arrived about 2 weeks ago (XXBLJ9).
Any Ideas what I could try next?
If you read this and don't know an answer either, you can still help me by verifying the problem on your note 10.1 - just create a playlist with for example amazon mp3 (playlist, not album) and open it with samsung stock music player. Would be great, thanks in advance!
Greetings,
Oliver
Okay...seems like nobody has an idea how to solve this...no problem.
You can, however, also help me by just trying it out, takes about 1 minute of your time...is nobody using the stock music player and any other player?
As Internet isn't full of complaints, i suspect that it could be a configuration specific problem with my note. I am willing to wipe it in that case, but as it is not rooted i've got to restore its current state manually after that - which might take some hours So I just want to make sure that there's a chance that wiping helps me with my problem.
Anyone? Can (or can't) you confirm my problem?
Thanks and Greetings,
Oliver
Same issue on Samsung Droid Charge
OliverB82 said:
Okay...seems like nobody has an idea how to solve this...no problem.
You can, however, also help me by just trying it out, takes about 1 minute of your time...is nobody using the stock music player and any other player?
As Internet isn't full of complaints, i suspect that it could be a configuration specific problem with my note. I am willing to wipe it in that case, but as it is not rooted i've got to restore its current state manually after that - which might take some hours So I just want to make sure that there's a chance that wiping helps me with my problem.
Anyone? Can (or can't) you confirm my problem?
Thanks and Greetings,
Oliver
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Hi,
I have had my Samsung Charge since it came out. That problem has always persisted on my device. I find it extremely frustrating as the point of a smart phone is that it is multiple devices. I would like this to be my main music player as well since it has an external 32gb SD card and so can hold quite a bit of music.
I am not a developer (I do do technical support), just decided I am trying to figure out - AGAIN - why it does this. I just downloaded a trial of PowerAmp. Don't know if this might help you figure out the problem. Power Amp shows my synced playlists from Windows Media Player not as a Playlist but as a music folder under folders. So far I have synced just one playlist as a test. In the folder in powerAmp, it is in the correct order. In the stock music player it is in reversed order.
I paused in typing, and after syncing multiple playlists at one shot, the list in Poweramp is garbled. The first try created a single folder with all the songs from the playlist in correct order. Now with the sync of multiple lists, I do have a couple like above but the rest either didn't come across or the music came across but not the playlist. The stock music player also has just some not all of the playlists I synced. The music is all in reverse order.
To me this suggest that problem is with the implementation of the sync on the device itself, given you have the same issue. My guess is it reads and writes the playlist from bottom up. I think there is also a burrering problem since it never seems to bring all my lists over and if that happens only some of the music.
Hope this helps, would like very much to know if you find a solution. Samsung is close to losing me as a customer over this. I care less about browsing and connectivity and more about multi functionality. A music player that works is important to me, and am considering an HTC or maybe even an IPhone (!!!) next time around just because of this - and my next upgrade is in 60 days. I HOPE YOU ARE READING THIS SAMSUNG!!!
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dakatisbak said:
Hi,
I have had my Samsung Charge since it came out. That problem has always persisted on my device. I find it extremely frustrating as the point of a smart phone is that it is multiple devices. I would like this to be my main music player as well since it has an external 32gb SD card and so can hold quite a bit of music.
I am not a developer (I do do technical support), just decided I am trying to figure out - AGAIN - why it does this. I just downloaded a trial of PowerAmp. Don't know if this might help you figure out the problem. Power Amp shows my synced playlists from Windows Media Player not as a Playlist but as a music folder under folders. So far I have synced just one playlist as a test. In the folder in powerAmp, it is in the correct order. In the stock music player it is in reversed order.
I paused in typing, and after syncing multiple playlists at one shot, the list in Poweramp is garbled. The first try created a single folder with all the songs from the playlist in correct order. Now with the sync of multiple lists, I do have a couple like above but the rest either didn't come across or the music came across but not the playlist. The stock music player also has just some not all of the playlists I synced. The music is all in reverse order.
To me this suggest that problem is with the implementation of the sync on the device itself, given you have the same issue. My guess is it reads and writes the playlist from bottom up. I think there is also a burrering problem since it never seems to bring all my lists over and if that happens only some of the music.
Hope this helps, would like very much to know if you find a solution. Samsung is close to losing me as a customer over this. I care less about browsing and connectivity and more about multi functionality. A music player that works is important to me, and am considering an HTC or maybe even an IPhone (!!!) next time around just because of this - and my next upgrade is in 60 days. I HOPE YOU ARE READING THIS SAMSUNG!!!
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Hi Oliver,
Just discovered that my Amazon MP3 cloud player has all my playlists I just synced (except one) and the songs are all in the correct order. This is confounding to me as I previously had the same reversed order issue in this player. Not sure if it has anything to do with the fact that I went into the file system dorectly and deleted all the contents from themusic related folders before doing the sync for that one then multiple lists. Not sure what happened with that one list, might be related to the fact that it is a custom CD mix ( old school club music, I need the beats for running!). Am going to try syncing that list as I really like the music that's on it. This would seem to contradict my thinking above though. Seems the issue is with the Samsung stock music itself, not the sync. HTC/Apple here I come...
Galaxy stock mp3 Player
I have Samsung Fascinate and it has the same problem with stock mp3 music player. Songs on playlist are reversed. I also tried a few other players but they are not convenient.
So as previous says we can use Amazon mp3 player and widget. It works good for me. It remembers when I paused and even after reboot. So decided use it. It doesn't interfere with other programs (I use in my car navigation app - Navigon). So its very convenient listen music and have navigation.
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Please could someone help or explain.I purchased the orbit II last week,I am still getting used to its power and capabilities.
In the manual it says it can play AAC files.I have downloaded some onto the storage card and the touch flo player hasnt recognised them, nor has the windows media player.
It recognises and plays MP3 files.The aac files are not protected they are ones that I downloaded myself from my own cds.
Also why can I not see photos that I have just taken that are saved to my storage card,in the photo viewer on Touch flo.
Thank you in advance for any help,
Peter
pocketmusic can play aac
Thansk for that,but I was looking to find out what the situation was with the phone rather than get a programme that will do something that the manufacturers are saying the phone should do.
I have noticed that the windows media player does add the tunes to its catalogue but files them under ARTIST "UNKNOWN" (as though the tags arent working).The touch flo or HTC player however doesnt even do this.
Does anybody know of a solution to this other than spending money on a progamme to do something that the phone should do already,
many thanks
Peter15965
It's really wierd. I have the same problem and also had this problem with my previous phone which was an O2 XDA Orbit 1 (i.e. rebranded HTC Artemis).
I'm afraid that I never found a solution that didn't involve third party software. I think the problem is that, although HTC have included the decoder to play AAC and AAC+ files, neither of the built in players seem to be able to read the tags from the m4a container format so, although they can play the contents, they can't incorporate the tracks in a meaningful way into the library (I also saw Windows Media Player putting everything as unknown).
I know it's not what you were hoping to hear, and I'd love for someone to prove me wrong, but right now I think you're stuck with going the third-party route.
If you don't want to spend money then I initially used TCPMP. It doesn't have any library browser built in but I found that by intelligent choice of the directory tree structure I used to store my files (My Music/<Artist>/<Album>/<Tracks>) then I could use the file browser in TCPMP to browse my collection in a fairly convenient manner. I now use Conduits PocketPlayer because that has a fantastic library browser and reads the m4a tags perfectly; the program is pretty resource hungry but for now I'm keeping the faith in the hope that they'll address that at some point in the future (their support is good).
- Julian
Thanks Julian at least I know its a common problem(does 2 handsets constitute common).
I will look into pocketplayer as a solution for the timebeing.I was hoping I wouldnt have to put other apps on that would slow the phone down.
Thanks again
Peter15965
peter15965 said:
Thanks Julian at least I know its a common problem(does 2 handsets constitute common).
I will look into pocketplayer as a solution for the timebeing.I was hoping I wouldnt have to put other apps on that would slow the phone down.
Thanks again
Peter15965
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You're welcome.
In most cases putting other apps on shouldn't slow down the phone. The reason apps can slow down the phone (and/or drain battery) can be because they have a Today plugin which, if not well written or if it needs to keep accessing the network, can slow things down. If an app does have a Today plugin (as PocketPlayer does) then you can often disable it (as you can for PocketPlayer).
The other reason for third party apps to slow down the phone is because Windows Mobile default behaviour when you click the top-right "x" button is to minimise the app (i.e. leave it running in the background) rather than close it down completely. Again, in this case an app that does anything significant when it is running in the background can slow down the phone. Clearly a music player needs to keep running while it is playing music but, once finished, you can make sure it is out of memory completely by selecting Exit from the application's menu.
In short, if you're careful to fully close apps when you don't need them, then you shouldn't slow down your phone at all (except so far as having a music player running in the background, whether built in or third party, will always put a drain on the CPU and make other apps run more slowly while the music is playing).
- Julian
Oops. One big thing I forgot to mention. If you do look at PocketPlayer then don't download the latest version (3.51) from their web site. There is a nasty problem in that build specifically related to playing AAC files on HTC devices that I reported to them and has been fixed in an internal beta for 3.52 which, as the reporter of the bug, I have been given to test. You should email [email protected] and say that you want to use it for AAC on an HTC device and hopefully they (Carrie) will let you try out a beta build with the issue fixed.
The issue by the way is that 3.51 doesn't correctly detect end-of-stream when an AAC track has finished so (a) it doesn't auto-advance to the next track in the playlist because it thinks the current track hasn't finished yet and (b) even worse, if you forget to explicitly turn off your device after you've finished listening then PocketPlayer thinks it is still playing your last track and so the device will not put itself into standby and can drain the battery. The issue is fixed in the latest beta build and as an added bonus it also parses m4a tags natively (in 3.51 you could tag your collection by using an option in PocketPlayer to infer the tags from the filenames used in your folder structure but it now reads the real tags in the latest beta).
There is also one other more obscure problem I'm trying to help them diagnose related to AAC on HTC devices but I've been a bit busy recently so am due to give them some feedback and check status on that today or tomorrow. This may or may not be fixed at this stage, I can probably give more feedback in a couple of days so personally I would hold off until I give you an update. If you definitely want to go ahead with a beta build then I can give you a workaround that works most of the time.
- Julian
Thanks again Julian, a fantastic answer by all accounts.I will hold off until you get an answer back about the problems you mention.
Thanks again for a most comprehensive answer.How will we know when the fix is through?
Peter15965
peter15965 said:
Thanks again Julian, a fantastic answer by all accounts.I will hold off until you get an answer back about the problems you mention.
Thanks again for a most comprehensive answer.How will we know when the fix is through?
Peter15965
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I emailed them this afternoon and got the answer. They've fixed the problem and I'm about to install a new beta to check it's OK. Apparently it was a Windows Mobile bug that they've managed to work around. I'll play with this new update pretty extensively tomorrow so you should get an answer from me in about 24 hours.
- Julian
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I have downloaded some onto the storage card and the touch flo player hasnt recognised them, nor has the windows media player.
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I found out some interesting thing: Some files are playing correctly but others refuse to work. I think that has to do with the bitrate of the files. All my m4a-files are bought from Apple Music Store. Most times my files are the unprotected ones with higher bitrate, but I have a few files which were protected (unfortunately I must have lost the copy protection somewhere, I'm really sorry for that ). The protected ones were encoded in a lower bitrate. What I found out is, that all my former protected files are played correctly. So maybe Windows Media Player can only handle files up to certain bitrate which obviously should be lower than 256kbps.
Further test: I created a playlist within windows mobile, but the Audio Manager (Touch Flo) wasn't able to read it. I managed that the playlist was recognized by the program, but it couldn't find any files.
So it is possible to play aac files (up to a certain bitrate) and to create playlists in Windows Media Player without any issues (yet). But I couldn't get it working in TouchFlo.
So, ok, I made half the way. Now it's up to you to make it fully functional.
have the same issue, I see the AAC file in the explorer and can play them from there but they are not loaded in the catalogue. anybody any other idea how to make the visible there? is buying pocket player the only solution?
thanks for the help in advance to everybody
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I emailed them this afternoon and got the answer. They've fixed the problem and I'm about to install a new beta to check it's OK. Apparently it was a Windows Mobile bug that they've managed to work around. I'll play with this new update pretty extensively tomorrow so you should get an answer from me in about 24 hours.
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The news isn't as positive as I'd hoped. The latest build has improved the problem (so at least they've identified it and found the right area to make changes) but it hasn't fixed it completely.
The player is still usable with AAC files but there is one glitch. After it's been playing for a while, say about 2 hours, then something seems to get corrupted in the image or via a bug in Windows Mobile itself such that thumbnails of the artwork for the album covers no longer display properly when browsing your music library. With the previous build the device would lock up at this point and require a soft reset so at least they've fixed that problem but there is still some sort of issue unresolved.
The workaround seems to be to just fully exit PocketPlayer every couple of hours and then re-launch it again so it's not too arduous and shouldn't prevent you playing with the trial version (although this partially-fixed beta isn't publicly available so you will need to contact support to see if they'll give it to you and given that it still has a known issue they might just ask you to wait a bit).
I'm obviously still working with them to try and 100% nail this issue.
- Julian
Hi guys,
I got a Problem with the Musicplayer in htc sense, it is soo buggy when i want to scroll through all my titles, i think its because of the hundrets of Album thumnails it got to load. is there a way to deaktivate these??
Thanks for answers or reflections!
I have this problem aswell.
you didn't explain what this bug does..
if its the same im having;
At first, when in music tab, the volume button controls volume (as expected) but then after *something* happens, then suddenly it switches to being a previous/next song button, and requires a soft-reset to be fixed
+1 Its really annoying..
i read somewhere this no longer happens on 1.61, can any1 running that rom confirm it?
Hey guys, been lurking for a while, this is my first post.
I had major issues with my music player. I emailed HTC and they sent this response -
"Please factory reset the device again, and install the patches before restoring any data.
Please remove all media from the SD card and format it.
Please ensure you synchronise media to your SD card directly from Windows Media Player11 on your PC to ensure that files are converted correctly and test the device again."
Did this and hey presto, works fine now
May be worth a try, good luck!
Wow ! You may change your device also...
Have you tried to simply modify the mp3 tag (genre, tracknumber) according to my findings here?
See here
In my opinion, a lot, if not all, of Music Player issues are related to the way the music player handles the ID3 tag of your mp3.
Can anyone help me with this...
Got my Galaxy Tab 2 w 404 XXBLH2. Running JRiver 17 and WMP12 on my PC and have both Stock, PlayerProand Winamp on my TAB2.
For some strange reason Media Info is missing from my Tab. Using the stock Music player, all the music is there, but half of them are called <unknown>, there is some album art, but not alot. In Jriver, Ive tried both SYNC'ing and Drag and Drop, but the result is the same.
When I use Both PlayerPro and Winamp onn the TAB, all the tracks called <unknown> in the stock player are missing, includes all my Playlists are empty. Videos are ok though. My SGS2 had the same issue, but at least that had UMS mode
Looks like some kind of tagging issue, im not sure any advice.
Im surprised not a single person on here has had the same problem or issues with ICS 404..
It turns out its the mp3 tagging under MTP, it only seems to like tags ID3 v2, so Im going to have to re-tag all 4000 tracks and so are you if you wanna sort it, but Im using MP3Tag, so its not too painful, but very very laborious..
Also, something else I came across in my hunt for a solution, if your having issues with getting the MTP to regsiter, try this:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=19153
then install the Samsung usb drivers, i think their up to v1.5.5.0.
Although my MTP being detected was never an issue, it just appears that you need Tags for some song titles when using MTP. I really hope Sammy override google specs and include a UMS mode in their new JB.
I've been trying to find a good music player for my GSIII for a while now and I keep running into issues. My main thing is that I want it to keep track of my metadata and Gapless Playback would be nice.
First, I was using Doubletwist with Airsync. Something would seem to go wrong every week and would require me to resync something, sometimes even my whole music library (7,000 songs.) I got tired of how long this would take and abandoned Doubletwist.
Now, I'm trying iSyncr, and have had my own issues with that. It (kind of?) shows duplicates, in the form of one less than double the songs for a particular album. (example 23 songs for a 12 song album.) It only does this for the first 15-20 artists. I tried their little media storage fix, but that doesn't work. It ends up doubling what I have in that album, and gets stuck in a "Looking for new songs..." loop and freezes. The program itself constantly shows little errors like "Device failed to update playlist." and "An operation is taking a long time." I tried to email them about these issues and never got a reply.
Did someone know of a fix for iSyncr for this or any alternatives?
I'm running CM10 Nightlies on my phone with a 64GB SD card formatted for FAT 32.
My computer is running Windows 7.
I really don't listen to music on my phone very much. I have a desk job and keep Pandora streaming while at work. On my ~hour commute to and from work, I listen to audio books (it's the only time I get to "read"). But, I do enjoy music and have over 200GB of MP3s. Occasionally, I do want to listen to some of my music using my phone, such as when doing yard work or between audio books. Service around here is spotty, so streaming is typically out of the question.
I use Ubuntu on my PC. My phone is a Captivate. (As soon as I can cut off from AT&T, I'm upgrading!) It's been running SlimICS for a while, but I'm getting ready to upgrade to SlimBean.
I've tried a lot of different programs on the PC, and a lot of different apps and haven't found anything that fits my use. This is what I want:
What I want from the Android App:
- Designate a particular folder as the source for music. This is the big one for me. I don't want it catching my audio books (I have a dedicated audio book player that I love, but it's not suited for music), audio recordings, and other sound files. All but two apps I've tried didn't have that capability and one of those didn't seem to really work right. Why is that so rare of a feature?
- Use ID3 tags, including album art. But that's fairly common.
- Easy navigation. By artist, album, song titles, etc. Don't rely on "playlists." I don't build them. Just show me all my music and let me easily chose if I want to play a particular album, everything by a particular artist, a particular genre, everything all mixed up together, etc.
- Lock screen controls.
My favorite music app so far is 3 (Cubed). But, specifying a music directory doesn't work. It has a menu option to only look in a folder your specify, and I've enabled that, but it's still seeing my audio books and other sound files. It has lock screen controls but I don't like the way it changes the lock screen. And it has a beautiful interface interrupted by these ugly "pop up" boxes. I love using parts of it, but find other parts hard to use.
What I want from a Ubuntu program:
I'm currently using RhythmBox, and it's OK. It serves most of my needs except the big one. How it syncs to my phone. I have a LOT of music and I hate building playlists. I also hate trying to manually go through the thousands and thousands of songs trying to pick out which ones I want to copy to the phone. I just don't have that kind of time. What I want it to do is just randomly pick songs until a threshold that I set has been met. For instance, copy 5 GB of random songs from my entire collection to my phone. Or, copy 3 hours of random songs from the Metal genre. Or perhaps I'm in a Dylan kind of mood so I want it to copy 3 hours of random Bob Dylan songs. And if there's something specific I want to put on the phone, I can do that manually.
So, am I overlooking something that will give me these options? Is there something out there for me?
ubuntu: moc
android: poweramp
I am pleased with both.
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I haven't looked at PowerAmp because, well... it's not free. Free isn't a requirement, but I just don't feel like I listen to music on my phone enough to justify paying for an app like that.
Now, about moc... I had not heard of that before. I googled it and read about it, but I don't see any way to do what I'm wanting to do.
yeah, its different than what you want. The complete opposite, actually. But I still recommend it -- it grows on you. Worth an apt-get.
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I haven't tried it yet, but this program looks promising: http://mr-random.sourceforge.net/docs.html#Doc/
Give PowerAmp a try, they have the trial version. Once you've tried it, it's hard to use any other.
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HeathicusF said:
I really don't listen to music on my phone very much. I have a desk job and keep Pandora streaming while at work. On my ~hour commute to and from work, I listen to audio books (it's the only time I get to "read"). But, I do enjoy music and have over 200GB of MP3s. Occasionally, I do want to listen to some of my music using my phone, such as when doing yard work or between audio books. Service around here is spotty, so streaming is typically out of the question.
I use Ubuntu on my PC. My phone is a Captivate. (As soon as I can cut off from AT&T, I'm upgrading!) It's been running SlimICS for a while, but I'm getting ready to upgrade to SlimBean.
I've tried a lot of different programs on the PC, and a lot of different apps and haven't found anything that fits my use. This is what I want:
What I want from the Android App:
- Designate a particular folder as the source for music. This is the big one for me. I don't want it catching my audio books (I have a dedicated audio book player that I love, but it's not suited for music), audio recordings, and other sound files. All but two apps I've tried didn't have that capability and one of those didn't seem to really work right. Why is that so rare of a feature?
- Use ID3 tags, including album art. But that's fairly common.
- Easy navigation. By artist, album, song titles, etc. Don't rely on "playlists." I don't build them. Just show me all my music and let me easily chose if I want to play a particular album, everything by a particular artist, a particular genre, everything all mixed up together, etc.
- Lock screen controls.
My favorite music app so far is 3 (Cubed). But, specifying a music directory doesn't work. It has a menu option to only look in a folder your specify, and I've enabled that, but it's still seeing my audio books and other sound files. It has lock screen controls but I don't like the way it changes the lock screen. And it has a beautiful interface interrupted by these ugly "pop up" boxes. I love using parts of it, but find other parts hard to use.
What I want from a Ubuntu program:
I'm currently using RhythmBox, and it's OK. It serves most of my needs except the big one. How it syncs to my phone. I have a LOT of music and I hate building playlists. I also hate trying to manually go through the thousands and thousands of songs trying to pick out which ones I want to copy to the phone. I just don't have that kind of time. What I want it to do is just randomly pick songs until a threshold that I set has been met. For instance, copy 5 GB of random songs from my entire collection to my phone. Or, copy 3 hours of random songs from the Metal genre. Or perhaps I'm in a Dylan kind of mood so I want it to copy 3 hours of random Bob Dylan songs. And if there's something specific I want to put on the phone, I can do that manually.
So, am I overlooking something that will give me these options? Is there something out there for me?
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The best suggestion I can give you is not a PC application, but is rather a piece of hardware. I would recommend getting a Pogoplug and an external HDD. Connect the Pogoplug to the HDD and then connect the Pogoplug to the internet via cat5/6, then create an account and download the app on your phone.. in this scenario, the only limit to what you want to store and how much space you have is the capacity of your external HDD; This device can support multiple HDD's, so its pretty much limitless.
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The best suggestion I can give you is not a PC application, but is rather a piece of hardware. I would recommend getting a Pogoplug and an external HDD. Connect the Pogoplug to the HDD and then connect the Pogoplug to the internet via cat5/6, then create an account and download the app on your phone.. in this scenario, the only limit to what you want to store and how much space you have is the capacity of your external HDD; This device can support multiple HDD's, so its pretty much limitless.
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I appreciate the suggestion, and it looks like a nice product, but I fail to see how that accomplishes my goal.