So I am considering possibly installing one the CM ROMs on my Explorer (I guess CM10 if there's a stable ROM). However, I don't want to lose any of my apps or data (e.g. saves in games, settings in various apps, messages, contacts etc.). Right now I am on stock ROM with DarkTremor's a2sd script and all my apps and data on the SD-EXT partition. What would be the best method to make the transition? Backup all apps with Titanium Backup and restore once I install the new ROM? Or is there some way to install a new ROM and keep the apps on my EXT partition working?
If there's no easy way to do it, I'll probably stick to stock ROM. I don't really want to have to reinstall all my apps manually.
Some of your data is in sdcard, so no worries, contacts should be synced to Google, and messages can be backed up with Titanium Backup(Pro?).
Titanium Backup Free can back up and restore apps and app data(includes settings), but not batch, so you have to get Pro or back up/restore all your apps one by one.
However, transition from Sense GB to CM JB/ICS is super-massive, so don't report any bugs if you choose to restore system data.
SifJar said:
So I am considering possibly installing one the CM ROMs on my Explorer (I guess CM10 if there's a stable ROM). However, I don't want to lose any of my apps or data (e.g. saves in games, settings in various apps, messages, contacts etc.). Right now I am on stock ROM with DarkTremor's a2sd script and all my apps and data on the SD-EXT partition. What would be the best method to make the transition? Backup all apps with Titanium Backup and restore once I install the new ROM? Or is there some way to install a new ROM and keep the apps on my EXT partition working?
If there's no easy way to do it, I'll probably stick to stock ROM. I don't really want to have to reinstall all my apps manually.
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Titanium backup is the best tool for backup and restoring apps. Get the Pro version its worth it, i change ROMs like in a day or two so i always have a backup with data of all my apps and whether u are coming from gb to ics/jb or going back to gb , just restore the apps. And dont ever restore system apps on a new ROM it is not recommended and csn create instability.
I hope this helps
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I already have TB Pro, so no worries there. Thanks for the reassurance, I may look into this further. I've been getting more and more fed up of GB when I keep seeing new devices with ICS or JB, think it might be time to make the switch.
So I can restore all user apps and data, but I should leave out system data? Sounds OK, I don't think I'll lose much by not restoring system data.
Yup I do the same.. Just the system apps.. and keep a copy of the titanium backup ( with apk as i use the free version ) on my comp.. System data wont mostly restore as GB and CM10 are almost incompatible.. you will get loads of fcs..
Hit thanks If i helped !
akshat.shenoy said:
Yup I do the same.. Just the system apps.. and keep a copy of the titanium backup ( with apk as i use the free version ) on my comp.. System data wont mostly restore as GB and CM10 are almost incompatible.. you will get loads of fcs..
Hit thanks If i helped !
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you do not restore system data on any ROM. It will cause FCs. You should only restore apps and app data
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So, the best way to backup apps before installing the Froyo update to a previously non-rooted Mesmerize?
App-Brain? I understand that won't necessarily save any data associated with the apps...
I used Titantium for my phone which was running Superclean ROM, with the Voodoo kernel, but now my wife (who didn't want me playing with her phone previously) wants to update to Froyo...
titanium is the best way to do it and preserve the user data.
however, if she really doesn't want her phone rooted (even though the froyo update will void the warranty, and is pre-rooted anyway ) you're stuck using appbrain.
i personally used titanium to back up all my apps and system data, and it worked great.
afritchen said:
So, the best way to backup apps before installing the Froyo update to a previously non-rooted Mesmerize?
App-Brain? I understand that won't necessarily save any data associated with the apps...
I used Titantium for my phone which was running Superclean ROM, with the Voodoo kernel, but now my wife (who didn't want me playing with her phone previously) wants to update to Froyo...
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I used titanium backup, the free version will suffice for backups. You will have to make the backups on your phone, then reinstall Titanium Backup once you boot into froyo, in order to restore your backups again.
bdemartino said:
I used titanium backup, the free version will suffice for backups. You will have to make the backups on your phone, then reinstall Titanium Backup once you boot into froyo, in order to restore your backups again.
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+1 I would get the premium mostly cause you will always use this app. Also, I have a spare sd card, and I make a mirror of the internal sd by just select all> copy> paste into external sd card. Then you have a mirror of what is on the internal card.
I used My Backup when I rooted my phone, saved it to sd, and it worked quite nice. Saved all my messages and was easy to restore. Had the option of saving data and app or just one or the other.
Before people start coming in to flame me for using the search button, please let me clarify that i have looked into several threads on xda and none of them provided me with a clear cut answer of what i wanted to know.
I understand first of all is that nandroid backup is a complete image of what is on the phone which should include stuff like settings, sms, call logs, data etc. What i have not found, however, if they keep other files that are lying around in the phone. For example, most of my Nexus S consists of videos and music (7-10GB) and in separate folders that are not tied to any apps in particular. Hence, if they are included in nandroid backup i would not have sufficient storage to do so (reminder that Nexus S has 16 GB)
I have "accidentally" posted on the galaxy S forum of xda and someone pointed out that it backs up apps and data from the internal SD. As far as i know this is slightly different with Nexus S because i observed that most apps are already installed in the "external" SD portion of the data.
Overall, i'm just a little confused. Can anyone clarify this?
It is just apps and data. The sd card is i believe split so that it doesnt touch your music, videos, and images. It just takes care of the main system stuff like apps and settings. Hoped i helped
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But aren't most apps on the nexus S installed on the sd card section of the storage? At least they are under Settings->Application settings->Manage applications->USB Storage
For example my Gameloft games would be almost 1 GB in size so would that be backed up as well. I will end up with gigantic nandroid backups.
A nAnroid backup includes
.android_source - apps2sd information/apps stored on /sdcard
boot - boot image
cache - cache files stored on /cache
data - apps, dalvik other stuff on /data
recovery - recovery image
system - system apps, frameworks modules etc on /system
nadroid.md5 - md5 information
nandroids do not include anything on the /sdcard other than .android_source.
how to do it? by using CWM?? am i wrong or correct??
ciwek90 said:
how to do it? by using CWM?? am i wrong or correct??
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Correct.
Flash ClockworkMod.
(You might have to rename /etc/install-recovery.sh to get it to stick.)
Boot into fastboot (volumeUp+ power).
Recovery - Backup and Restore - Backup.
Maximilian Mary said:
Correct.
Flash ClockworkMod.
(You might have to rename /etc/install-recovery.sh to get it to stick.)
Boot into fastboot (volumeUp+ power).
Recovery - Backup and Restore - Backup.
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Awesome! but if i want to flash custom rom and i do backup first then i flash new custom rom, so i can get back all my apps by restoring nandroid backup is it? or nandroid backup is only for when things went wrong? i confuse...
ciwek90 said:
Awesome! but if i want to flash custom rom and i do backup first then i flash new custom rom, so i can get back all my apps by restoring nandroid backup is it? or nandroid backup is only for when things went wrong? i confuse...
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Nandroid is basically all or nothing. There is an advanced restore which can restore only the partitions you want (like system or data), but it probably won't play nicely with a custom rom. Your best best is to use titanium backup for user apps & data, and perhaps some select system data like texts, bookmarks, and wifi settings. Check out the batch backup/restore options for user apps & data.
ciwek90 said:
Awesome! but if i want to flash custom rom and i do backup first then i flash new custom rom, so i can get back all my apps by restoring nandroid backup is it? or nandroid backup is only for when things went wrong? i confuse...
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Nandroid backup backs up everything including the rom... so NO you can't restore apps with it.
To just save apks/apps you use eg Titanium Backup.
NOW i know it! Thank you so much @Maximilian Mary and @rentaric for helping me!
Nandroid = for backup/restore previous rom
Titanium = for backup/restore data & apps
Thanks again!
rentaric said:
Nandroid backup backs up everything including the rom... so NO you can't restore apps with it.
To just save apks/apps you use eg Titanium Backup.
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Bro, does nandroid backup include the IMEI also?
heyimCHOLO said:
Bro, does nandroid backup include the IMEI also?
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Some recoveries have this option buy many don't, just boot to your recovery and see if it is listed as an option, if not, then no
Your apps will still be on your sd card because your just restoring your operating system that you had with all of it settings it will show all of your apps you had but if you deleted it from the sd card when you try opening it it would say app not installed. Nandroid backup saves everything in settings and operating system apps will be on sd card. Some apps can be included in nandroid it just depends where they are located when back up is saved.
Is it posible to flash with data loss?
Or can i backup my apps data and then restore it when i flash to another Rom?
It's not possible to flash a ROM on top of a previous ROM w/o expecting any trouble. Either you get bootloops, hangs, or all sorts of force closes with apps. Backup apps w/ Titanium Backup. TB will save the apps and data to a folder on the SD card, from which it will restore the apps when you click "Batch Restore" after flashing a new ROM.
thanks for the advise gonna do it tonight
Borat38 said:
It's not possible to flash a ROM on top of a previous ROM w/o expecting any trouble. Either you get bootloops, hangs, or all sorts of force closes with apps. Backup apps w/ Titanium Backup. TB will save the apps and data to a folder on the SD card, from which it will restore the apps when you click "Batch Restore" after flashing a new ROM.
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I've flashed about 100 CM7 nightly builds and release candidates on top of each other without losing data so that isn't strictly true! ROMs made by different chefs that are significantly different from each will need a data wipe though, and TB is useful to some in that situation.
Well i want to go from LeoMar75 Rom Revolution 2.1 to 2.2
I use rom manager and have sometimes updated my rom without wipping my data, but it's not always stabel.
I would recommend first making a backup of you data with titinium backup or mybackup and then updating your om
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I've flashed about 100 CM7 nightly builds and release candidates on top of each other without losing data so that isn't strictly true! ROMs made by different chefs that are significantly different from each will need a data wipe though, and TB is useful to some in that situation.
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Sorry, I should've been more clear that when switching from one ROM to an entirely different one, you should wipe. But then again, even with ROMs that are of the same series, sometimes the differences are so great that it's best to wipe clean before flashing. I'm speaking from my experience with StarBurst.
Still having wifi issues with ALexanders Miui for X10, and wanting to know any advice on the best way to save/restore apps so that I dont have to start fresh on every minor rom update... Thanks!
Titanium Backup is really good for that, backups app data and the apk to your SD for when you need 2 restore apps.
havent heard of that one,.. i think i'll look into it.. sorry, im not the OP but i was interested in it aswell.
Titanium Backup
Thanks, titanium backup looks the goods.
Can you usually restore apps okay when going to different roms?
Apps yes, it just installs the apk. Data, depending on which data and ROM yes. I've backuped everything when using ARHD and never had a problem restoring everything when I wipe and upgrade it. When I put on MIUI I didn't let it restore all the data, just a few things to get call logs, save games n stuff.
If I flash a ROM and then want to restore all my apps and data, why should I use Titanium?
1. So I see that my google "Backup account" can backup my data and restore apps and there settings and data. So why use Titanium?
2. whats the difference between googles backup and Titanium's?
3. Can I use both together when restoring? I assume google will restore first and then I will restore from Titanium... Is there any reason to restore from google account?
4. And then there's TWRP and its backup: what I understand about this is if I do a backup before I flash Viper Rom then I can flash my backup if I want to return to my old ROM and it will restore the ROM and apps and all data (so I wouldn't need to restore from Titanium and/or google in this scenario?). Is this correct?
Thanks, smoka
the app data that is being talked about is rarely 3rd party app data.
http://www.howtogeek.com/140376/htg-explains-what-android-data-is-backed-up-automatically/
titanium lets you back up apps whenever you please it even lets you keep old copies around if for some reason there is something in an update you don't like.
your assumptions on TWRP are spot on however if you make a backup today and a month down the road you decide to flash back all your apps have data from a month ago and you loose all your new stuff.
Titanium also lets you extract data from a TWRP or CWM backup. at least on an M8 I've only gotten it to work if the backup is on the "internal sd card"
Titanium pro has a lot of additional features scheduled backups. you can sync to a google drive, dropbox, or box account. backing up only data/apps that have changed.
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
also if you have backups of everything and all you have is a metered net connection you can reinstall the apps without dipping into whatever data pool you have.
n0ne980 said:
the app data that is being talked about is rarely 3rd party app data.
http://www.howtogeek.com/140376/htg-explains-what-android-data-is-backed-up-automatically/
titanium lets you back up apps whenever you please it even lets you keep old copies around if for some reason there is something in an update you don't like.
your assumptions on TWRP are spot on however if you make a backup today and a month down the road you decide to flash back all your apps have data from a month ago and you loose all your new stuff.
Titanium also lets you extract data from a TWRP or CWM backup. at least on an M8 I've only gotten it to work if the backup is on the "internal sd card"
Titanium pro has a lot of additional features scheduled backups. you can sync to a google drive, dropbox, or box account. backing up only data/apps that have changed.
http://matrixrewriter.com/android/
also if you have backups of everything and all you have is a metered net connection you can reinstall the apps without dipping into whatever data pool you have.
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ok, so what if I do a Titanium backup and then use TWRP to restore from a backup "a month ago" and then will I still have my most resent Titanium backup to restore or will restoring the TWRP backup erase all my current data (titanium backup) on my phone?
thanks for you response
TWRP will not remove your Titanium backups unless you specifically tell it to wipe your sd card (sdcard2) or your personal data partition(sdcard1) depending on where you have it set to back things up to.
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ok, so what if I do a Titanium backup and then use TWRP to restore from a backup "a month ago" and then will I still have my most resent Titanium backup to restore or will restoring the TWRP backup erase all my current data (titanium backup) on my phone?
thanks for you response
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TWRP takes a snapshot of your system in time. I you do a TWRP nandroid, by default it will copy your /boot, /system, /recovery and /data partitions. Think of it like a restore point in Windows Restore - except better
Titanium Backup is more specific (and also or more limited): You use it for your apps and their data.
It becomes useful if you do a clean install as in: wiping your data partition.
Yes, you can also do a partial restore from TWRP and just restore the data partition of any given nandroid after a clean install, but since it's an image of your /data before the wipe it will also restore potential problems. Restoring with TiBu is somewhat "cleaner" since it re-installs your apps from a backup.
I make a nandroid of my system when I want to flash something new - a new rom or new mod - but I want to keep my option to return to my last working setup.
I use TiBu to reinstall my apps after a clean install.
Anyway - you can never have too many backups :laugh:
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TWRP takes a snapshot of your system in time. I you do a TWRP nandroid, by default it will copy your /boot, /system, /recovery and /data partitions. Think of it like a restore point in Windows Restore - except better
Titanium Backup is more specific (and also or more limited): You use it for your apps and their data.
It becomes useful if you do a clean install as in: wiping your data partition.
Yes, you can also do a partial restore from TWRP and just restore the data partition of any given nandroid after a clean install, but since it's an image of your /data before the wipe it will also restore potential problems. Restoring with TiBu is somewhat "cleaner" since it re-installs your apps from a backup.
I make a nandroid of my system when I want to flash something new - a new rom or new mod - but I want to keep my option to return to my last working setup.
I use TiBu to reinstall my apps after a clean install.
Anyway - you can never have too many backups :laugh:
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What is TiBu?
Titanium backup.lol.
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