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[Q] Can i really use TF for same functions as a notebook???

Im undecided if i should buy the TF or the iPAD2.
I enjoy android hence my Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 2.3
I have been reading reviews on both tablets but im still undecided but i would like to have the TF as i prefer android but i want to know if its better than iPAD2.
i need the tablet to browse the net wifi, read books and documents, type documents on it, watch movies on a plane, enjoy good prudctivity and game apps too without too much glitches.
Please advice as im purchasing either one next week.

A similiar thread I started, before bought mine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248557

davebugyi said:
A similiar thread I started, before bought mine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248557
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thanx mate...i was specifically looking for reasons why i should buy the TF either than the ipad2.
do u still have urz? enjoying it still? i read a review that some android apps are not made for tablets.

I use both my laptop and TF all the time, both have their own purpose and neither of them and fully replace the other in my opinion. At least not yet.

If I was in your situation I would have wait until the transformer prime released (TF2) on November. but if you can't wait buy the tf1, you won't regrat it.

I would say that it might be closer to replacing a NETbook, but not a notebook.
You can of course do basic things like email, youtube, watch video, and web browsing (although I haven't found this to be as good an experience as I had hoped). But I wouldn't rely on it to do seriously productive things yet (like typing documents etc). Its not impossible... its just not quite there yet IMO.

Definitely get the ipad 2.

khakhi said:
thanx mate...i was specifically looking for reasons why i should buy the TF either than the ipad2.
do u still have urz? enjoying it still? i read a review that some android apps are not made for tablets.
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I still have mine. But it is more like a netbook replacement than a notebook
Some apps are not, but developement is underway. But as Siad, i'd wait a bit longer and get the Transformer Prime

goodintentions said:
Definitely get the ipad 2.
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But y? thats my question.
look, i want to get the TF but i would like to know that it is worth getting regarding being up to the same level as the ipad2.
i like the flexibility of android but i would like to know if the TF is quality too and wont glitch, freeze, crash frequently.

goodintentions said:
Definitely get the ipad 2.
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yes definately

goodintentions said:
Definitely get the ipad 2.
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reaperzero said:
yes definately
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3936&idPhone2=3847
this can say otherwise

The-Original-Ki said:
I would say that it might be closer to replacing a NETbook, but not a notebook.
You can of course do basic things like email, youtube, watch video, and web browsing (although I haven't found this to be as good an experience as I had hoped). But I wouldn't rely on it to do seriously productive things yet (like typing documents etc). Its not impossible... its just not quite there yet IMO.
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I use my Transformer for this no problems.
Android has few if any "Serious" editors and even less useful tools for creating rich content that isn't HTML; Polaris Office is the most useful I've seen. Being ARM and Linux based however, I am able to run vim and other serious editors like GNU emacs on my transformer. I can even access more serious type setting tools for creating rich and or structured content.
Now if you live and die by MS Excel & PowerPoop, that might be a big problem.
Just for native-ness, I've thought of creating a vim/emacs style Android app and trying to stitch it to a Lua interp over RPC (to be used ala elisp), but have yet to have that big a need of yanking text from my terminal to other apps, versus just using e.g. Dropboxes editor for that.

If you have a pc and an always on internet connection, if you are savy enough, you can set up a remote desktop server on your pc by using VNC or Splashtop Remote Streamer. This may be alot to set up initially, but once its set up, its a great solution to this issue, so you won't have to carry around both your PC and your tab. Splashtop is a great program that makes it appear that your native PC OS is native to your tab. The downside to splashtop is that it does not encrypt your remote desktop sessions.

I don't know what you are looing to hear?The number of which one is better? This is totally subjective.
Go and try both of them out and then choose one.

khakhi said:
But y? thats my question.
look, i want to get the TF but i would like to know that it is worth getting regarding being up to the same level as the ipad2.
i like the flexibility of android but i would like to know if the TF is quality too and wont glitch, freeze, crash frequently.
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Everybody's got an ipad 2. So, obviously, it's better than the TF. Also, I'd like to see less whining in the TF forums. Apple's already got an army of whiners. One more wouldn't hurt them.
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Now if you live and die by MS Excel & PowerPoop, that might be a big problem.
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This is not true. I've made several ppp on my TF. I've also written a bunch of stuff with it. And I live and die by excel spreadsheet.
If you're looking for something free, of course polaris is inadequate.
I have bought quickoffice, freethink (or thinkfree, I always forget), officesuite pro, and doc2go. Between these, I can do everything I need to.
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khakhi said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3936&idPhone2=3847
this can say otherwise
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Doesn't matter what that comparison chart says. The ipad 2 is the king of the hill right now. Have you any idea how many times I've heard people on the train say "asus transformer? What is that?" Yet, everybody knows what the ipad is.
What's more, everytime I show people my TF, people always say "oh, it's an ipad..."
I still say if you have to ask which one to get, it's best that you get the ipad 2. If there's any disappointment after getting it, let apple and the iOS community deal with the inevitable whining session. And based on my experience with tablet users, there will undoubtedly be disappointments. Most people will start out trying to use the tablet like a laptop anyway.

I absolutely love my TF still, and I'm a big fan of Android. I dont know. The TF will do anything that the ipad can do and more, with the ability to customize and change whatever you want.
Being able to set up your TF like this is a great way to show why honeycomb is amazing. There's no way to even come close to setting up your ipad like this:
HUBS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrzQPkbkYOw
I need to upload a video of my hubs.... it's a GREAT way to use your tab

Ipad 2 or TF? If you plan to type more, use the editing options for word, excel etc, watch movies then go for the transformer. The extra laptop dock should be very helpful too. But if you are more inclined to play games, then go buy the ipad2,. Or.... Just wait for the prime. The Kal EL processor is a beast.

My girlfriend ditched her netbook for the TF months ago and hasnt had only one complaint. Her netbook had a VGA out and the TF only has HDMI. 99% of projectors dont support HDMI yet so she has to break out the old Dell to do that.
But otherwise you can open/edit office docs, PDFs, all websites, etc. She loves it. Even used it to take pictures of, edit and display cells and such she is working on.

ryan stewart said:
Her netbook had a VGA out and the TF only has HDMI. 99% of projectors dont support HDMI yet so she has to break out the old Dell to do that.
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Maybe it has a DVI input? There are plenty of HDMI adapters available. In fact, there are also HDMI to VGA adapters.
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The-Original-Ki said:
I would say that it might be closer to replacing a NETbook, but not a notebook.
You can of course do basic things like email, youtube, watch video, and web browsing (although I haven't found this to be as good an experience as I had hoped). But I wouldn't rely on it to do seriously productive things yet (like typing documents etc). Its not impossible... its just not quite there yet IMO.
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I have to agree great replacement for the netbook I think if i had a real laptop I would probably play w them both about the same
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Need Advice, please.

I have 500 bucks to spend and am hesitating between getting either the Surface or a nexus 7 + a chromebook. For those who have had some experience with those devices, what do you think would be a better way to go? I am honestly hesitating between the two choices.
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The Chromebook really doesn't enthuse me...I don't completely think that its existence is justified yet. It depends how you consider the convenience of two devices vs one.
What are you planning on doing? Will you type a lot? Integrate the products into an existing Windows 8/Android phone ecosystem? Watch movies and videos? Games? Travel with it, or are they devices for home? Will you carry a Nexus 7 around alongside your Chromebook?
Personally, I'd look at the range of Atom-based Windows 8 Pro hybrid tablets. They get better battery and performance than the Surface RT, and have access to all Windows applications of the past. There's heaps from every OEM, and I don't know your exact price-point, so I can't really make a recommendation.

I don't agree re: the Atom systems providing better performance and battery than the surface. I've used an Atom Windows machine and it was a dog and the battery life was comparable to a PC.
I do agree regarding understanding just what you are going to use it for.
Are you a student? An office worker?
Are you watching movies? Playing games? Just browsing the web?
Are you going to need any Office document editing?
The Nexus is going to give you the best app ecosystem and access to Google Play books, movies, and music. The Chromebook is basically just an android tablet in a laptop form factor (with some limitations).
The Surface is more of a PC with some restrictions but doesn't benefit from the Google Play Store. It does have access to the XBox ecosystem but it is not as extensive as Google offerings (yet?).
I have Android tablets and an iPad and in the week I've had the Surface I have found the Surface to have more utility than any other tablet I've owned, but I look at things from a work standpoint. I don't play games or use "apps" on a tablet. I need them on my phone (which is why I have an Android phone).

Thanks for your input. I had the transformer prime but returned it because of a screen that went really bad. I am planning to go to school and was wondering which device (surface or chromebook) would help more on the go (I have a 17" Toshiba at home). I don't play much on my tablet but I like to watch movies on Netflix and videos online and browse the web. I am leaning toward the surface, I guess I am looking for assurance that I won't be disappointed.
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Wendemixda said:
Thanks for your input. I had the transformer prime but returned it because of a screen that went really bad. I am planning to go to school and was wondering which device (surface or chromebook) would help more on the go (I have a 17" Toshiba at home). I don't play much on my tablet but I like to watch movies on Netflix and videos online and browse the web. I am leaning toward the surface, I guess I am looking for assurance that I won't be disappointed.
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That's an impossible assurance, but if this is for school, I think Surface is the way to go. They have a no-restock 14 day return policy. Worst case scenario, you can buy it, use it, and if you don't like it, return it.
Surface already has Netflix, Hulu, Kindle, and supports Amazon Instant Video via the web browser.

If you need Office, then get the Surface. I've tried just about every word processor/spread sheet app on android and none of them come close to the real thing. The Touch Cover and the way it's integrated is also vastly superior to any keyboard peripheral I've used on my android tablets.
If you do work with a lot of PDF's though be warned that right now you're pretty much stuck with converting them into office docs for now, the pdf reader that comes with the Surface barely has any functionality beyond the ability to open and read them, and there aren't any alternatives on the market yet.
As for netflix, hulu and web surfing it's all there. The Surface uses the desktop version of IE10 and as far as I know, it's the only new tablet to have flash support. Subjectively speaking I've found it to be just as fast as Chrome on Android 4.1.1, while I like the way Chrome renders some websites better, IE10 will always pull the desktop version of websites and does a much better job with animated gifs and embedded video.

hoodoomagic said:
If you need Office, then get the Surface. I've tried just about every word processor/spread sheet app on android and none of them come close to the real thing. The Touch Cover and the way it's integrated is also vastly superior to any keyboard peripheral I've used on my android tablets.
If you do work with a lot of PDF's though be warned that right now you're pretty much stuck with converting them into office docs for now, the pdf reader that comes with the Surface barely has any functionality beyond the ability to open and read them, and there aren't any alternatives on the market yet.
As for netflix, hulu and web surfing it's all there. The Surface uses the desktop version of IE10 and as far as I know, it's the only new tablet to have flash support. Subjectively speaking I've found it to be just as fast as Chrome on Android 4.1.1, while I like the way Chrome renders some websites better, IE10 will always pull the desktop version of websites and does a much better job with animated gifs and embedded video.
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I find the built in pdf reader more than capable. I work with large pdfs for work and with the options menu at the bottom I can search , find bookmarks, highlight and add notes. What else do you want from a reader?
The only other thing I need is a pdf driver to create pdfs on the go but that is a different app.

guitar1969 said:
I find the built in pdf reader more than capable. I work with large pdfs for work and with the options menu at the bottom I can search , find bookmarks, highlight and add notes. What else do you want from a reader?
The only other thing I need is a pdf driver to create pdfs on the go but that is a different app.
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You're right, I was a too quick to judge and missed a lot of things that the stock reader is capable of doing. I'm used to using ez-pdf on android and that throws a lot of options in your face and was thrown off by the cleaner interface of the ms reader. I still can't figure out how to quickly get to a page though, and a night mode would be nice.

hoodoomagic said:
I still can't figure out how to quickly get to a page though
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mk1151 said:
The Chromebook is basically just an android tablet in a laptop form factor (with some limitations).
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Except that it isn't that at all!
No Android whatsoever in the Chromebook.
Regards,
Dave
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foxmeister said:
Except that it isn't that at all!
No Android whatsoever in the Chromebook.
Regards,
Dave
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correct, chromeOS doesn't share app stores with android, so no apps aside for the ones built specifically for that OS (which is just a fullscreen chrome browser)
aside from the rock bottom pricing for a basic use computer, i don't see the point of the chromebook at all.

[Q] Polaris Office v4

I have a quick question for all of you with the tf300:
My brother recently purchased the note 10.1 and I had the chance to play with it over the weekend. It's great, but I think it's a little out of my price range and the tf300 is the form factor I'd like. I'm a student, so being able to have the keyboard functionality is ideal. I know there's docks available for the note 10.1, but the tf300 with dock is more in my price range.
That being said, the functionality I wanted was in polaris office. I like to take my notes in the powerpoint format, and on my pc I've been able to crudely use the inking tools to scribble out things, with the majority of my notes going into the notes field. The note 10.1 has the ability to annotate free hand right on the slides using polaris office v4. Unfortunately, the tf300 demo units all had v3, and with no internet access, so I wasn't able to check if I could update the store model and see if that functionality exists. There was also no cursor visible in the notes section on the tf300, so you couldn't see where you were typing until you started typing.
So, my question is: can you update polaris office to v4, and can you write on the slides with your finger (or capacitive stylus)? OR, do you know of another way to do this? I realize an RT device would allow me to do this, but I don't want to purchase (IMHO) a gimped PC. I could wait for the Windows 8 Pro tablets to come out, but they're all looking to be three times as expensive as this setup would be.
I realize I can export the slides to PDF and use an annotating software, but that's not what I'm looking for.
Thanks!

The latest Jellybean ROM updates it to V3.5, so no luck getting V4 from Asus yet.

Ah, gotcha. Any chance there's any alternatives that allow that?

flanker1743 said:
Ah, gotcha. Any chance there's any alternatives that allow that?
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You could try looking around for the apk...but be warned its looked down upon, unless the app is free then its all good :good:

flanker1743 said:
Ah, gotcha. Any chance there's any alternatives that allow that?
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I tried getting a v4 apk from the net, but I couldn't get it to open any documents. The app would run but when I tried to open or create a document it crashed. So, I guess you might want to look for other options. There are several apps for taking notes with a stylus, ASUS SuperNote is pretty good (comes pre-installed), I know its not exactly what you need.
But if you can wait a while ASUS might update polaris, and Microsoft Office is being released for Android hopefully in the 1Q of 2013. Another note, the TF300T is pretty good with a stylus, but I bet the Note 10.1 is a lot better from what I've seen. I guess you could get the TF300T from a store with at least 30 days return policy and try it out.

Thanks everyone for all the responses. I'll keep these things in mind proceeding forward. It's just been extra tempting to get it lately with the black friday specials and now the cyber monday deals!

Is note 10.1 still a good option?

I'm shopping for a new tablet and I'm considering the note 10.1. Best Buy currently has them for $350. That seems like a pretty good deal.
My question is, is this still a good option? Are there good, solid, stable ROM's out there?
Is there anything else I should know. It seems like this tab has the ability to be pretty good.
Thanks for any input you have.
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I think it is still a good deal.
I'm using ARHD 11.1 with Boeffla kernel
You'll find no other device at the same level with Note 10.1 at that price range

eggwardo said:
I'm shopping for a new tablet and I'm considering the note 10.1. Best Buy currently has them for $350. That seems like a pretty good deal.
My question is, is this still a good option? Are there good, solid, stable ROM's out there?
Is there anything else I should know. It seems like this tab has the ability to be pretty good.
Thanks for any input you have.
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I really like my note. If you want the Spen then it is absolutely great. I take so many notes on it for school and it is extremely convenient to be able to multi task during lecture. Really i use this more than my laptop. I turn off wifi (sometimes the tablet) at night and with use at school (like 2 hours a day) for notes i can get a few days out of it sometimes a week, it depends on how distracted i get during a lecture and play games Anyway, I am really glad i got this tablet. If you dont think you will use the Spen then go for something else because it really is the biggest reason to get it. And IMO it is pointless to get this tablet to install CM10 or PAC on it, because the Spen doesnt work as well after that if it even does work. Message me if you have other questions, i will try to reply...

Thanks for the replies. I wen t ahead and bought it. But if anyone else want's to throw in their thoughts on what's good and what to avoid that would be appreciated.

Welcome to our community
There are many ROMs to choose.
ARHD (that I use) is close to stock ROM.
Boeffla kernel is enhanced kernel with OC feature.
Install Boeffla Config if you flash Boeffla kernel.
Flash Noozxoide if you want sound enhancement.
Boeffla kernel also features Boeffla Sound enhancement.
Choose a case wisely before buying one.
Strong magnetic field may "damage" wacom digitizer.
For apps....
I use 2 Office suites: Quickoffice by google & AndrOpen Office
Quickoffice is an Office suite for offline & cloud (an office suite that was bought by Google)
AndrOpen Office is a ported version of Open Office (a full office suite that was a default office suite in Linux)
Linux default Office Suite now mostly is Libre Office, a fork of Open Office.
For S-Note alternative I use LectureNotes & Write
LectureNotes is Bitmap based & Write is Vector based.
For navigating I use Waze.
Very usefull to avoid traffic jam & in some country it can show you the nearest & cheapest gas price too.
That's all for now.
Just ask if you have any questions

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d4rkkn16ht said:
Welcome to our community
There are many ROMs to choose.
ARHD (that I use) is close to stock ROM.
Boeffla kernel is enhanced kernel with OC feature.
Install Boeffla Config if you flash Boeffla kernel.
Flash Noozxoide if you want sound enhancement.
Boeffla kernel also features Boeffla Sound enhancement.
Choose a case wisely before buying one.
Strong magnetic field may "damage" wacom digitizer.
For apps....
I use 2 Office suites: Quickoffice by google & AndrOpen Office
Quickoffice is an Office suite for offline & cloud (an office suite that was bought by Google)
AndrOpen Office is a ported version of Open Office (a full office suite that was a default office suite in Linux)
Linux default Office Suite now mostly is Libre Office, a fork of Open Office.
For S-Note alternative I use LectureNotes & Write
LectureNotes is Bitmap based & Write is Vector based.
For navigating I use Waze.
Very usefull to avoid traffic jam & in some country it can show you the nearest & cheapest gas price too.
That's all for now.
Just ask if you have any questions
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See my signature. Almost same configuration :laugh:
And for some "play with my device" thing you can use AccuWeather for weather forecast, Android Tuner for some infos and tunning your device,
Moon+ reader for reading an e-book and e-magazines and best app I ever seen is Lux Dash for automaticaly brigtness and so called Night filter -
it's useful when you are using your device in night or dark room and everybody knows after while eyes crying and even headache can appears,
so this app according your location recognize if in your country is NIGHT or DAY and night filter is for your eyes safety.
More here: Lux Dash Lite
Have great time with this great "pet" :highfive:

I just got one last night and its pretty sweet. Walmart had them for $275.00 as a heads up. I have a note 3 and a nexus 7 but so far im really liking the large screen and spen use.

eggwardo said:
I'm shopping for a new tablet and I'm considering the note 10.1. Best Buy currently has them for $350. That seems like a pretty good deal.
My question is, is this still a good option? Are there good, solid, stable ROM's out there?
Is there anything else I should know. It seems like this tab has the ability to be pretty good.
Thanks for any input you have.
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Yes, it is a good deal.

I got a grey one yesterday. Came from a Nexus 7 and a short stint with the Tab 3 8.0. Still adjusting to the size if it, but loving the speed and spen. Deciding if I should root or not.
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What's the screen like? I'm thinking to get this but the PPI is the only thing putting me off
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Galaxy note 10.1 is an excellent tablet!!! I have one since december/2012.
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NIMBAH said:
What's the screen like? I'm thinking to get this but the PPI is the only thing putting me off
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It's not nearly as sharp as a full HD or UHD/Retina display, but I've had zero issues wit it, and I do quite a bit of reading and stuff on it. I wouldn't worry about the screen unless you're really picky and willing to put more money into a nicer screen.

[Q] Problem with Hancom Hshow

Hi,
The fact that the Note pro came with a "pro" Office suite convinced me to buy this tablet rather than the 10.1 format. At the time, every critic said Hancom Office offer was great, but I didn't really read any thorough review of the Hancom Office products so far...
I've been using Hword and Hshow quite a lot and had no problem with the former one. But, Hshow seems to be pointless so far.
I am able to create or modify pptx files with ease, and in that retrospect Hancom is doing a good job... As long as the files stay in Hshow.
BUT, the .pptx files, weather I create them from scratch or I edit files created by colleagues, they all end up being unreadable on Microsoft Powerpoint, which is a big problem when all your colleagues use that piece of software.
Have you guys encountered the same issue? Is it a popular bug, or do I need to have a factory reset on my tab to get that fixed?
Thansk for your help!
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I haven't checked......I never need powerpoints so I never use hshow.....I imagine if its a glitch hancom would like to know about it though. Its a major flaw if its true for everyone.
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Have you tried standard ppt format from the pulldown?
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Thanks
Thanks Wingdo. Indeed recording the files in .ppt format works.
But it's still a pain when you have to work with .ppts files you've been given, you're likely to lose a few things.
On top of that, Hword tends to crash regularly when I take notes in meetings...
I came to a point to hope that Microsoft will release Office for Android soon, as they did with the ipad.
Let's just say that for now the Galaxy Note Pro is not quite yet ready for professional productivity work.
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Arnosch said:
Let's just say that for now the Galaxy Note Pro is not quite yet ready for professional productivity work.
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Agreed, IMO they shouldn't have labeled it as a Pro model to begin with. As we have already seen many consumers will have expectations of it being a laptop replacement and while that may be true for parts of the market there are limitations due to mobile platform compromises that lead to disappointment.