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Adding a new phone number during a conversation

Hi Folks,
I recently ran into a situation where I wanted to add a new phone number while I was driving and having a conversation over the speakerphone.
I switched to the keypad and pushed the digits one by one as they were read to me. However, there wasn't a way to save them into a new contact.
I was wondering if anyone encountered this problem before. Was I supposed to go to contacts \ New and then type the info? That can't be done while driving... I only wanted to save and a new phone number...
Thanks,
kingHTC
Trinity WM5

think pressing memo button creates an memo for that conversation

In memo mode there is not keypad
Rudegar said:
think pressing memo button creates an memo for that conversation
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Thanks for the reply.
I also thought of using the memo tool. However, adding comments to the memo is done by using the keyboard or by recording a voice message.
The keyboard isn't as comfortable as the keypad, and in fact, I can't believe anyone uses it during driving.
As for the voice recording, is it possible dial a number that you recorded?
My feeling is that the designers of the phone edition didn't think about usability that much.
Perhaps there is some kind of a 3rd party dialer with more options..?
Can someone please recommend ?
Thanks,
KingHTC
Trinity WM5

You wanted to type while talking while DRIVING
Bloody hell!
"Yes officer. I didn't see the child on the crossing as I was somewhat distracted"

nah
he's too drunk to care about that
besides not owning a license they cant
really take it
and the car is stolen btw jk

Thanks for the sersious reply
Thanks for the friendly replies. I didn't expect that from senior members.
But anyways... nobody is perfect.
Motorola's car phone kits have had this feature for many years now:
Checkout this one:
http://www.prairiemobile.com/motorola_M800.html
This model and many others are designed for use during driving i.e the buttons are very large, and so is the screen among other things. My point is, that I'm afraid PPC isn't yet a suitable replacement, and perhaps this is a limitation of the platform.
kingHTC
Trinity WM5

my post should be seen as a joke which was why i added the and jk part

OK, cool, point taken.
I wonder how the issue is solved on the iPhone... they claimed the user doesn't need a stylus at all.

Big buttons allowing the use of fat fingers?

Input > auto suggest = useless?

With my TyTN = Hermes and WM6.0 the autosuggestion of words seems much better than the Raphaels (at least in the hardware keybord stance).
Can someone explain why that is or if I have haven´t understood the utility or something else right?
With TyTN it basically suggests 4 alternatives in a diagonal way, it can be one word or SEVERAL words in a row, depending on what I´we written before. And you choose from them with the upp and down arrow keys. Simple and quick.
With Raphael it suggests several ONLY singular words horisontally, and if it´s not in the dictionary it automatically chooses another word than the one you´we just written (!?). Slow and awkward.
Also - who is behind this solution? Windows Mobile 6.1 or is it HTC Raphaels unique solution?
Thanks in advance
/Danne

Anybody have an opinion or information on this matter?
At least the system is a part of WM6.1 or if it´s Raphaels unique solution? Because I´m thinking about buying a Kaiser with WM6.1 instead and wonder if it has the same solution.

Sorry, no additional info, but I'm in the same boat so to speak.
I find it completely useless, specially since I don't always use English in my SMS messages, and I found that it becomes a nightmare if it doesn't find a match and then forces my word to something it thinks it should be.
What I cannot understand is that under Settings-Personal-Input-Word Completion - I have DISABLED it, but it still friking tries to complete my words, even in keyboard mode???
Do you know of another place to disable this dastardly excuse of a feature?

HAH!
Found it! If you want to disable it completely, the do the following:
1) make sure you disable it under settings - all settings - personal - Word Completion.
2) When you open a new message, bring up the virtual keyboard and look for the button that reads "ABC T9" - it has a toggle on the button, make sure it is on "ABC" and NOT T9 -voila!
Now I can SMS again!

I´m glad I was not the only one being irritated about this. But at least it´s possible to turn it off, so thanks for posting the solution Piie
I actually returned my TP because of this and severeal other reasons but I´m thinking about buying it again or some other WM6.1 phone. So do you know if your solution to turn if of works with Word Mobile documents as well?
And still, if somebody knows if it´s part of Raphael or WM6.1, please let me know.

Agreed 100% on the uselessness of word completion feature on the TP. On mine, the T9 feature actually slows the sms application so much as to make it completely unusable. This is probably my biggest complaint with this device.

Yip, following the steps as posted also removes the predictive text completely for Word ( and all other apps I have used so far)...

Thanks piie

I believe its part of the TP keyboard (SIP) not WM6.1 , when i had my kaiser with wm6.1 this "IRRITATING" issue was not there, but when i installed the diamond keyboard on my kaiser, this thing came out...... now its part of the TP because of its keyboard.......... so its HTC

I was getting annoyed with the behavior described in posts 1 and 2, disableds the whole thing too (I had an Excalibur before and it seemed to work far better on this particular aspect).
However, I decided to give the TP's T9 another shot and started changing it's configurations and finally got rid of the annoiance related: when on a text field, bring up the T9 options by pressing "Fn" + "Space", select "T9" settings and on the screen that appears uncheck the "Spell Correction" and "Auto-substitution" boxes.
Now I'm using the word prediction (T9) again just like I used in my old device, tipying much faster! (specially because I commonly write in portuguese and my keyboard is the UK one...).
Hope this helps you guys.
Cheers.

Sweet!
So you can still have predictive text, but remove the actual "irritant" of it overriding your word if it doesn't match it's dictionery - seems like that is the answer to your problem Danne?
For me - I really don't care for ANY kind of prediction - most often than not, even in English, the suggestions are maybe 30% usefull if that...

Great!
Yes, this is solution and now I know it´s part of Raphael/Diamond and not WM6.1!
Still, the Hermes WM6-solution with prediction of several words based on what you previously have written seems better. But I am happy with this!
I guess that´s the last words for me in this discussion.
Thanks guys!

just wondering how to disable word completion without installing htc ezinput, because at input settings by disabling it, doesn't work at all.

here's everything you need to know on how to get back to the old style autocorrect and change your dictionaries: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1527

That however breaks your hardware keyboard
sym key will stop working and you can't get pound and euro sign using FN key....
see my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470647

Dissatisfied office user - suggestions? Kaiser?

I use my PDA mainly to effectively stay organized and want to execute the most commands with the hardware keyboard. The Hermes (TyTN) was great for that purpose but I wanted something faster and had better camera and so on, so I bought Raphael.
The Raphael is great in many ways but it has slowed down my organizing and irritated me and I´m wondering if I can do something about it, see things differently, or if you have suggestions for recomending something else, like Kaiser or Xperia?
More specifically...
-The input method with auto suggestion seems crappy (see separate thread)
-The soft keys above the keyboard are gone
-It actually takes longer time to open Word-documents (than with Hermes) - it takes 15-25 seconds for a 50kB doc (!)
-The screen is not placed in the middle
Lot´s of complaints , but I am looking for a solution here, so please enlighten me
/Dan

Hardware shortcuts.
PQzII for hardware shortcuts. Have you changed from the default ROM this may speed up word.

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PQzII for hardware shortcuts. Have you changed from the default ROM this may speed up word.
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Does PQxII work even for the soft keys - menu and...?
Are the ROM:s available here language-specifik, or can I use any one of them? (I have a Swedish model.)
And thanks

Best touch screen keyboard with learning feature?

I have the Verizon version of the HTC Touch (VX6900). I have tried many keyboards including Zoomboard, HTC Diamond keyboard, Spb Full Screen Keyboard, PCM Keyboard, etc.
Can you suggest a keyboard that "learns" frequent words that you type and suggests them in the future so you can just hit the space bar to type out the word for you? For me I use the same words a lot and I would really benefit from that.
I know there are keyboards that suggest a word as you're typing it like if you start typing "thi" it will show you "thing" or something like that. I actually want a keyboard that will learn words that I type frequently and will suggest that word in future context.
For example if I type "I love that game", the next time I type "I", it will suggest "love" for my next word, then "that" after, etc. Before I updated to Windows Mobile 6.1, my keyboard actually used to do this, and I don't know which one installed that triggered this.
If I would type a word that I typed in the past then it would show the next word that I typed in the past next to it in a shadow color and I would just be able to hit the space bar to autocomplete that word. Does anybody know which keyboard that is? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Resco Keyboard - Touchpal 3.0
It will suggest words if you want and you can turn it off. It also allows you to change the format from one with multiple letters on one key to one letter per key.
Pretty good software.

addicus said:
Resco Keyboard - Touchpal 3.0
It will suggest words if you want and you can turn it off. It also allows you to change the format from one with multiple letters on one key to one letter per key.
Pretty good software.
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Thanks for the reply but unfortunately I have tried both of those and they don't do what I am looking for. I am looking for a keyboard that will not only suggest words but will learn words and sequences of words that I've used in the past.
Before I updated to Windows Mobile 6.1 it was doing this. I have a feeling it was from a keyboard that I installed but I can't identify which one it was.
For example, let's say I sent a text message to a friend that said "Dude, did you see that Chargers game on Sunday?". Then if I forgot to send it to another friend I can start a new text message and as soon as I type "Dude", it will suggest "did" as my next word, then "you" as the next word after that, then "see" after that and so forth. The next word in line would show up as shadowed grey text and I would just keep pressing the space bar to add those words to my text message automatically.
Does this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks!

Touchpal does this, you can even set the priority of new words it learns. Best SIP IMO.

Khalild said:
Touchpal does this, you can even set the priority of new words it learns. Best SIP IMO.
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Hmm, it still isn't doing what I want it to do unless I'm doing something wrong. Any other suggestions? Thanks!

It was installing the extra keyboards which removed this feature. I use block recognizer, and before I tried out a load of different SIP's, WM6.1 did this. I seem to recall that WM5 and WM6 did as well.

The TouchPAL DOES do that I dont know whats wrong with your phone. It is absolutely everything anyone would want or need in a keyboard IMO lol

I think what you asked is just the standard function from the simplest default microsoft keyboard comes with the original OS. Maybe you need to enable & customize it on Start >> Settings >> Personal >> Input.
By the way, the 'Gesture' function is another very useful character of the default ms keyboard. The gesture is used in this way: You need to silde your stylus, starting from the key you want and ending at the nabourgh key. Example: Slide stylus from s to w key, it will come up with capital S, s to a = backspace, s to d = space, s to x = enter, while only tap on s is just an letter s. Very useful function.
Edit: Please also refer to this thread:
Word Completion does not work!

Help to get back D-pad to HTC PDAs

I wrote a quetion to HTC, why they are producing PDAs without D-pad. On internet there are forums full of complains at missing D-pad. Here is the answer from HTC:
"Dear Diamant
Thank you for your enquiry about Windows Mobile.
I've not seen any requests for a d-pad on the HTC devices, but I will forward your feedback to our main office for them to keep in mind with future products.
Best regards
"
Please, write to HTC (click here http://www.htc.com/europe/CS_Mail.aspx ), when you are missing a D-pad. The more messages they get, the bigger is the chance to get D-pad back to new HTC PDAs.

I doubt they will bring the dpad back
They may bring the little blackberry-wheel to winmo, though

I would love to see a trackball on the future HTC devices.

If they dont have requests, I hope, they will get them. Please tell to your friends to write to HTC a request.

Not having a d-pad is what have kept me from buying newer htc phones.
I dont want a fullsize keyboard to add thickness to the device but the d-pad is a perfect complement. The newer devices have space for them too. Just remove that stupid zoombar.

I agree trackballs are the way to go, there small and easier to use than a dpad but still offer all the functionality

mancsoulja said:
I agree trackballs are the way to go, there small and easier to use than a dpad but still offer all the functionality
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Except when it comes to games

....and changing track's,fast forwarding, volume control,screen on/screen off when listening to music, it pisses me off having to pull the later model's out of my pocket....turn the screen on and do it there instead.
IMO you also can't beat a d-pad for selection of contact's etc while your walking/moving around....a click is just such a positive thing and no amount of fondling the screen can replace it for me

kareem, you were faster! You are right.
gerryjoson - by HTC Touch HD I remapped volume keys on side of device to arrows Up and Down. And they were usable f.e. to changing tracks by listening music without turning the screen on. But now on Touch HD2 the keys are not working without working screen.
I think, that D-pad really does not need too much space. Just look to Nokia (f.e. N82), where is the middle button (Enter) surrounded by a smaller frame, that is used to go to 4 directions. I think, this is the best solution, that is really small. Trackball or joystick is smaller, but the functionality is worse.
Please write to HTC, that you want have D-pad on new HTC models.