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I recently got myself this HTC One s for T-Mobile. The phone is unlocked because i tried another gsm chip and it worked just fine.
But the real issue is that i cannot have 3G on my phone. Even tho Orange and T-mobile operate with the same bands.
I did get 3G when i tried my phone with another chip from other company that operates with the same bands as AT&T.
Has this happened to any one?
i dont cannot just move to the other mobile company..
Thanks in advance!
An unlocked gsm phone will work, but will not have high speed web unless the recently refarmed 1900 spectrum is live in your area.
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An unlocked gsm phone will work, but will not have high speed web unless the recently refarmed 1900 spectrum is live in your area.
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If what you say its true, then maybe my phone is not unlocked? How can i tell if its unlocked?
Let me ask you this, did you get a Tmo branded phone and are trying to use it on Orange or the other way around? I was speaking for if you were trying to use an unlocked phone on tmo..
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Hello,
I am an AT&T customer and I just got this great phone recently. I unlocked the bootloader, flashed Android Revolution and unlocked the SIM today. When I did that, the phone located AT&T's Edge network. I can't get it to recognize AT&T's 3G/HSPA+ network, though.
On the back of my box it shows it should operate on Frequency: GSM:850,900,1800,1900 UTMS:1700,2100,1900. Isn't AT&T on 850 and 1900? I had HSPA+ on my Atrix before getting this phone.
I did a forum search and saw that someone said Tweakker worked for them. I tried that but all it seemed to do was charge me 99 cents. I am still on Edge. Another post mentioned changing the APN settings, but that was for the Bell Sensation. Hope I'm missing something simple. Help?
You need 850 and 1900 UMTS bands.
There are two Sensations. The Z710e and Z710a. You have the e and you need the a.
kamikazees said:
Hello,
I am an AT&T customer and I just got this great phone recently. I unlocked the bootloader, flashed Android Revolution and unlocked the SIM today. When I did that, the phone located AT&T's Edge network. I can't get it to recognize AT&T's 3G/HSPA+ network, though.
On the back of my box it shows it should operate on Frequency: GSM:850,900,1800,1900 UTMS:1700,2100,1900. Isn't AT&T on 850 and 1900? I had HSPA+ on my Atrix before getting this phone.
I did a forum search and saw that someone said Tweakker worked for them. I tried that but all it seemed to do was charge me 99 cents. I am still on Edge. Another post mentioned changing the APN settings, but that was for the Bell Sensation. Hope I'm missing something simple. Help?
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I'm afraid you have the wrong sensation. Like the post above said, you need the Telstra\Bell\Virgin mobile sensation which is z710a
Thanks, guys. I didn't know I needed both 850 and 1900. I'm having a really hard time finding a phone that works on AT&T and is not one of their own. Oh well, back to Craigslist with this one.
kamikazees said:
Thanks, guys. I didn't know I needed both 850 and 1900. I'm having a really hard time finding a phone that works on AT&T and is not one of their own. Oh well, back to Craigslist with this one.
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You need to get European version.
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No! European, T-mobile and Asian version wont work with at&t 3G. You need to get the z710a sensation
anyone here use a euro Sensation in the US? what carrier are you using and do you get 3G?
thank you in advance!
The US and EU are the same so you shouldn't have any issues and it will run at 4G.
And btw, Welcome to USA
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If it uses the same bands as the US version it should work for T-Mobile and Simple Mobile(prepaid mvno that uses t-mobiles tower).
Both gets 4G where its available.
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yup tmobile sells z710e and from your signature i can tell yours is z710e so there you have it!
Europe has GSM band. Don't think they use that in USA. But I heard att and T-Mobile should work though.
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I took my EU Sensation to Florida in Septemeber - bought a tmobile SIM and had it up and running within a few hours. The initial problem that I had was that my phone was registered with tmobile in the UK - so the tmobile apps didn't work in the US with the help of tech support they registered the phone with themselves and I was able to use the tmobile apps including the $1.34 for internet per day which you have to activate daily.
Of course, now that I'm back in the UK - my tmobile apps don't work here but I don't need them here.
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Europe has GSM band. Don't think they use that in USA. But I heard att and T-Mobile should work though.
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I believe that T-Mobile US is the same as Euro based phones, i.e. uses the same bands, 900Mhz, and AWS. Bell Canada and AT&T US use 850MHz which isn't compatible. They're both GSM for Voice, the data frequencies are different though.
Please correct if I've got that wrong. I know I looked up some of this and it all got scary.
There are various posts on the subject.
I found this so you can plug the county in and see what's compatibile.
(850MHz) http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation-z710a-3g-850-1900-mhz.html
(900MHz) http://www.gsmnation.com/htc-sensation.html
EDIT: Why is life so complicated ? I thought we had it simple now, guess again. At least Pan Europe there is one standard (or so I believe).
Have fun.
thanks for all your input guys! i guess T-Mo is the way to go. my wife said that when she was back in the US (Hawaii and NY), she was not getting 3G on T-Mo while she was there.
could that just be that we don't have a 3G plan?
I'm currently deployed in Afghanistan and ordered the 6200 to work with GPRS out here, sadly enough that's the only reliable data connection available. I googled at&t and T-Mobile frequency bands but I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at.
Could someone please let me know which carrier I'll be able to use this on with 3G when I return home next year? Thanks!
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As long as it is sim unlocked then it should (technically) work with either one on 3G since AT&T uses the 850/1900MHz frequency and T-Mobile uses the 1700/2100MHz. The model you have (P6200) is listed for 900/1900/2100MHz frequencies for 3G.
It will work on both of them under 2G for sure since it is quad-band GSM.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_p6200_galaxy_tab_7_0_plus-4208.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT&T_Mobility
This is just a guess based on what little I know about these things so I can't guarantee this.
scottypimpin636 said:
I'm currently deployed in Afghanistan and ordered the 6200 to work with GPRS out here, sadly enough that's the only reliable data connection available. I googled at&t and T-Mobile frequency bands but I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at.
Could someone please let me know which carrier I'll be able to use this on with 3G when I return home next year? Thanks!
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That's exactly what I'm confused about. If T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 does that mean the device only needs to support 2100 or both?
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It will only works on att, I have the same unlocked phone, tried tmo and only getting edge. Yea, mine comes with phone ability and unlocked
So the International Version has no 4G support that has been established; however, their could be a possible way to still get 4G. I have seen with the SG2 International and The SG2 Tmo if you flash the modem of the tmo one onto the international they got 4G on Tmo. I have also read that i think it was the nexus or galaxy note or something had a locked band that they unlocked.... I heard that a radio probably wont change anything but does anyone else have any ideas?
Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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dislplin01 said:
Why would you buy the internatIonal version t mobile is getting the one s anyway
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Don't like waiting and I travel a lot.
Personally I think you should just wait you gaffe the s2 so it's not like you dying from a crappy phone and that way you would know it works properly I'm not sure about the one s but I know on my HTC sensation there is a extra antenna for the 4 g and we can't even buy a extra battery cover unless it had that antenna or we loose 4g
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I already HAVE the one s I came from the amaze for the record. Interesting thoughts.
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What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
TramainM said:
What about the possibility the frequency is their its just locked...
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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As far as I understand, it's not. Check www.htc.com/www and look at the One S specifications.
Doesn't support 1700 AWS bands nor does it have the 1900 mHz (AT&T 3G, soon to be T-Mobile HSPA+ as well).
A software hack won't fix bands that don't exist in the hardware.
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Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
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Thats the thing though, I get ATT 3G.... So something else must be their...
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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The 850 mHz band is also AT&T 3G, but it is not as widespread around the country as the 1900 mHz band. So, you're getting AT&T 3G on 850 mHz because that is available on the One S.
See: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
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So say its all over and theirs no changing it. Those of us who had no idea that it wouldn't work is their any way would could minupulate HTC or Tmo into giving us a version that will suport it. You could play the "It says hspa+ on your website"
The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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The international galaxy sII doesn't get T-Mobile 4G from flashing a radio.
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Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
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Then what phone was it. I know this is a samsung phone that has the capability to do that
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It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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It was the skyrocket and the note that can be flashed to work with t-mobile
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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Again, because they contain the 1700 AWS band to get T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+.
A software fix cannot fix what the hardware lacks in the International One S. I'm not sure you could coerce HTC into an exchange because they'll probably tell you that the detailed specifics are available on their website and you should always check with your carrier before buying an international device.
Your best bet would be to return it directly and buy the T-Mobile US model if you'd like T-Mobile service. Hopefully they'll get the black version, if not, sorry mate. Sometimes you have to choose carrier over design, or simply a different phone model.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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I dont get why htc included the band in one phone and not the other.
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So people wouldn't buy one to use it for a carrier it wasn't meant to be on? If the band is only in the T-Mobile version and people are on T-Mobile, their only choice is to buy it from T-Mobile if they want 3G.
T-Mobile probably doesn't want people buying their flagship off contract.
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The Tmobile version looks like it has the 850/1900 bands to work on ATT's network? Does it in practice?
I know one problem might be the micro sim card idk if att uses those at all. I guesse u could probably just cut a regular one
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I think it will work but you will only get Edge data. But why go through the hassle when they are releasing the One X on May 6th?
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I think it will work but you will only get Edge data. But why go through the hassle when they are releasing the One X on May 6th?
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I agree the att one x will have the same awesome krait prossecor and it might have the same internals maybe making it possible to flash one s roms with the art one x. Because the att one x and international one x won't be able to flash each others Roms
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ATT uses micro sim, that's not an issue.
Frankly I find these LTE just getting to be ridiculously big. The HTC One S is the perfect size imo.
According to the FCC document for the t-mobile version, it's supports WCDMA 850 (ATT), 1700 (T-mobile) and 1900 (ATT,T-mobile). So I should fine on ATT's network as long as I put in the correct APN right?
Also looking for clarification on this...
It probably will, but it has to be unlocked and for that to happen, we need S-Off which could very well be a few months away. Why don't you buy the international, unlocked version outright? You also get your choice of colors (red/black as well instead of just blue/grey).
Wow, not a straight answer yet, YES and unlocked HTC One S will work on ATT 3G (1900mhz). No ATT LTE support. Contrary to above micro-sim is not a problem, att iphones use them and of course you can always cut it as well.
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Wow, not a straight answer yet, YES and unlocked HTC One S will work on ATT 3G (1900mhz). No ATT LTE support. Contrary to above micro-sim is not a problem, att iphones use them and of course you can always cut it as well.
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How is mine not a straight answer? It will when it is unlocked. Which requires S-Off.
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How is mine not a straight answer? It will when it is unlocked. Which requires S-Off.
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Lol u mean unlocking phone to use it on att requires s off? NOOO. DOESN'T NEED TO BE S OFF. Just get unlock key and done.
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i am sure it works with att hspa plus. i have persoanlly tried unlocking and using it and it works plus check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odaS8tcxa0A this dude does the same thing and you can see it working on att along with the galaxy note
p.s. that band might not be available on some areas and 4g might not work, but works where i live (boulder,co)
Ok so... the T-mobile version will work with AT&T... will the international version work any less? As far as I can tell they both use the same bands (with exception to AWS of course).. but I very well could be missing something.
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Ok so... the T-mobile version will work with AT&T... will the international version work any less? As far as I can tell they both use the same bands (with exception to AWS of course).. but I very well could be missing something.
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so do you know if the t-mobile version has both 850/1900 bands? or just one of them?
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i am sure it works with att hspa plus. i have persoanlly tried unlocking and using it and it works plus check this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odaS8tcxa0A this dude does the same thing and you can see it working on att along with the galaxy note
p.s. that band might not be available on some areas and 4g might not work, but works where i live (boulder,co)
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How did you unlock it
please tell me
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How did you unlock it
please tell me
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I unlocked it through ebay. just search in ebay "htc one s unlock" its about 8USD. you pay and then you leave a message with your IMEI number
I unlocked mine by calling T Mobile and asking nicely. I popped in my ATT SIM and got HSPA plus nicely. It works perfectly on ATT
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I unlocked mine by calling T Mobile and asking nicely. I popped in my ATT SIM and got HSPA plus nicely. It works perfectly on ATT
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I live in India where I can't get it
Can I try Cellunlocker.net
There it is for $10
I thought it had the 850 band for 3G only. I don't see any specs that say it has the 1900 band for 3G. This tells me it will only work in places that AT&T has 3G on the 850 band. Does ATT use 1900 at all for 3G?
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I thought it had the 850 band for 3G only. I don't see any specs that say it has the 1900 band for 3G. This tells me it will only work in places that AT&T has 3G on the 850 band. Does ATT use 1900 at all for 3G?
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ATT uses 1900, in some markets, ATT uses the mixture of both, 850 has better penetration in urban areas (tall buildings ...)
I'm interested in the phone, but i'm going to be using it on ATT. Can somebody that has the device tell us what is the FCC ID?
Quick trip to Phone Scoop website, i can see that there are two FCC ID's associated with the phone. NM8PJ40110 passed the tests using ATT WCDMA bands (band II 1900 and band V 850) and T-Mobile bands (band IV 1700/2100). NM8PJ40100 passed only ATT bands. Both doesn't show any reference to any test on WCDMA 2100 (band I), which probably means that the phone doesn't support the international 3G band.
In short, theoretically, the T-Mobile's version of HTC One S should work on ATT 3G bands (WCDMA band II and WCDMA band V), however, the phone would not support ATT LTE.
Since the hardware is there (FCC website proves it, unless if the official T-Mobile USA version got pushed with different FCC ID that i do not know), the phone should work on ATT 3G, but nothing prevents T-Mobile to disable the ATT 3G radios in their ROM. I think that S-OFF would give opportunity to enable the ATT radios (if they are blocked)
We will see ...
Take care,
From my experience, the ATT radio is not blocked and works fine.
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