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Hey guys, not sure if this is already common knowledge or not, but our HTC rep stopped in today and said that the Inspire 4g was going to be getting Gingerbread OTA in the next couple of weeks. She seemed pretty keen on this stuff as she herself was running a rooted Inspire 4g and complimented my Evo running a Shift port.
Anyways, have fun in Inspire land!
Sweet! I hope she is right.
I hope so too, my fiance has a stock Inspire 4G and I'd love to see that with Gingerbread. The rep seemed pretty up on new tech.
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The Gingerbread OTA for the EVO that was released today has been rooted all ready....... So I don't see a problem with a locked bootloader.
threpac said:
With the EVOs OTA that released today having locked boot loaders, I can't say I'm too excited about this until we know whether it has one or not.
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droe411 said:
The Gingerbread OTA for the EVO that was released today has been rooted all ready....... So I don't see a problem with a locked bootloader.
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Was it rooted before it was put on the phone or after the ota update was on the phone. Because its easy to root a rom when its not on the phone, but its hard to s off a phone that has a locked bootloader.
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??? I am just looking at xHausx's post on the EVO board. So don't know.... But it is a rooted odexed and de-odexed version, fully functional. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
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Was it rooted before it was put on the phone or after the ota update was on the phone. Because its easy to root a rom when its not on the phone, but its hard to s off a phone that has a locked bootloader.
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??? I am just looking at xHausx's post on the EVO board. So don't know.... But it is a rooted odexed and de-odexed version, fully functional. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038701
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Thats the rooted rom from the update. What worries us is if some one does the ota update and is now stuck with a locked bootloader and no way to s-off. Which could happen on the inspire.
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mudknot2005 said:
Thats the rooted rom from the update. What worries us is if some one does the ota update and is now stuck with a locked bootloader and no way to s-off. Which could happen on the inspire.
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So similar to the way Apple operates? Shouldn't we always have the ability to flash signed roms/ radios like we do now?
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Thats the rooted rom from the update. What worries us is if some one does the ota update and is now stuck with a locked bootloader and no way to s-off. Which could happen on the inspire.
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Werent we all stuck with locked bootloaders when we bought our phones? And arent we all running rooted with s-off now??
That makes absolutley no difference. If the update comes, and the bootloader is replaced in the process with a signed one(I know they said they wouldn't, I haven't read about the evo update, but usually a locked bootloader is no big deal, a signed one is- if there's people making a big deal about it I'm assuming its signed)
then there's a good possibility you can never really flash a rom/kernel again, unless the bootloader is cracked. If anyone thinks that deb's will always get around this, look at the atrix. Ya it may get cracked eventually, could be years though.
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That makes absolutley no difference. If the update comes, and the bootloader is replaced in the process with a signed one(I know they said they wouldn't, I haven't read about the evo update, but usually a locked bootloader is no big deal, a signed one is- if there's people making a big deal about it I'm assuming its signed)
then there's a good possibility you can never really flash a rom/kernel again, unless the bootloader is cracked. If anyone thinks that deb's will always get around this, look at the atrix. Ya it may get cracked eventually, could be years though.
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Is there a chance that a rooted device could download this update accidentally (ala iOS?)
Well, the way i see it, everyone said that about the G2 and it is now probably the easiest phone to root
ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
Is there a chance that a rooted device could download this update accidentally (ala iOS?)
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Technically, no.Some devs put FOTA KILL in the roms to disable the service responsible for OTA's so the devices cannot receive them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1031938
Well I am wishing that HTC will stand behind what they said about not locking bootloaders. I hope...... that they had the OTA in the hands of Sprint way before they made that statement.
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droe411 said:
Well I am wishing that HTC will stand behind what they said about not locking bootloaders. I hope...... that they had the OTA in the hands of Sprint way before they made that statement.
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Well if the Inspire is getting it in a couple of weeks, how long do you think AT&T has had it?
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I have not seen any leaked Roms for the Inspire gb update, so my hope is AT&T doesn't have it yet...... Just a hope.
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Well if the Inspire is getting it in a couple of weeks, how long do you think AT&T has had it?
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This is cool for non root users but I can't imagine being rooted without GB at this point.
Mustang302LX said:
This is cool for non root users but I can't imagine being rooted without GB at this point.
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It's pretty cool for inspired ace users too, seems like there's people who like there roms as close to stock as possable and as soon as we get an inspire based gingerbread we can use that as a base to build off of, without any problems like tinny audio or speed issues.
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It's pretty cool for inspired ace users too, seems like there's people who like there roms as close to stock as possable and as soon as we get an inspire based gingerbread we can use that as a base to build off of, without any problems like tinny audio or speed issues.
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Hey guys,
Paul O'Brien just tweeted that he received his sensation this morning! That's awesome.
Also, HTC sent him a s-off version!
That should give a massive boost to sensation development.
This is really great, really gives HTC extra points if they give such a big handover to community. That´s the spirit, give an unlocked phone to such a dev.
Just wishing they would do the same for Cyanogen...
I can't wait to see what he has in store! This phone has so much potential once they get it unlocked, it's crazy!
This is wonderful, damn I'm looking forward to see him doing his magic!
HTC shud send him device with S-ON so he can figure out how to S-OFF it.
If he already hv S-OFF device, nothing much todo then
Let's see how fast he roots..... He's usually pretty quick. Go Paul go!
He's running on 1.34.401.1 - new ROM version
I did ask if he was ENG S-OFF or SHIP S-OFF but he didn't reply
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He's running on 1.34.401.1 - new ROM version
I did ask if he was ENG S-OFF or SHIP S-OFF but he didn't reply
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Hmm, maybe that is the ROM that is S-OFF by default then, ie the unlocked bootloaders
I think it's SHIP S-OFF, he posted a pic here
If it's ship S-off, he can flash to ENG S-OFF jsut like I did when I flashed a stock ROM
Excited Then, what does HTC do...giving out free devices?
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rahan95 said:
If it's ship S-off, he can flash to ENG S-OFF jsut like I did when I flashed a stock ROM
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Send him an email with the link to the thread
but i read one of paul's tweet that he wont reverse engineer any PR device unit T__T
He's ship s-off
override182 said:
but i read one of paul's tweet that he wont reverse engineer any PR device unit T__T
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Yeah, he won't reverse engineer it. Doesn't mean he won't develop for it, or flash ENG H-BOOT!
Great!
Paul should to a lot Progress because this phone hase huge Potential !
HTC is starting to make smarter plays.
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HTC is starting to make smarter plays.
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Yeah, ages after the competition... But I'm still due for an upgrade in july, tje question is, ain't it better to wait for the SGS3, rumors say it's coming in Q3.
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If unlocked and rooted first, I'll stick with HTC. As has been the ongoing theme, the best hackers make stuff for HTC, hence the topic of this thread.
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Yeah, ages after the competition... But I'm still due for an upgrade in july, tje question is, ain't it better to wait for the SGS3, rumors say it's coming in Q3.
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Q3 this year? I'd expect q1/q2 next year, a lot of people will be pissed when they release the SGS3 this year.
Fantastic news. Htc sent him it with s=off. Hopefully we receive the update as well to turn s-off on our devices (which mines probably isnt) so this phone can turn from beast to godlike.
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Hello! In about 6 days, I'll be coming to the Sensation forums from the myTouch 3G Slide forums. I hope you guys and girls can make this experience memorable in a good way, and I hope I can help out and be helped.
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Hello! In about 6 days, I'll be coming to the Sensation forums from the myTouch 3G Slide forums. I hope you guys and girls can make this experience memorable in a good way, and I hope I can help out and be helped.
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you welcome sensation is a good choice and astonishing experience to go throw..
u have my help since now ..
Thank you very much.
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Hello! In about 6 days, I'll be coming to the Sensation forums from the myTouch 3G Slide forums. I hope you guys and girls can make this experience memorable in a good way, and I hope I can help out and be helped.
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The Sensation forums have some awesome people in it. If you have any troubles or questions feel free to send me a PM.
Thanks! I noticed this forum is buzzing with excitement, compared to the myTouch 3G Slide forums.
Which version of HTC Sense should I go with after I S-OFF? I like Sense 4.0, which my brother has on his One S, but Sense 3.6 has also caught my eye.
Sense 4 isnt perfectly functional but unless you use BT alot it doesn't matter.I'd go for S4 personally (Although im on MIUI at the minute as the battery life is far better than any sense variant)
I don't actually have a Bluetooth. I mostly like eye candy. I like aosp, I'm a man of bells and whistles. I like to be able to show my friends the advanced graphics and such.
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I have another question: Is there any method of A2SD or Data2ext for this device?
Welcome aboard mate ! Also be carefull while rooting, unlocking bootloader etc...
Hope you enioy the AMAZING DEV SUPPORT
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Thanks! Hopefully, I'll be able to use my past experience to cook ROMs for this phone.
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Thanks! Hopefully, I'll be able to use my past experience to cook ROMs for this phone.
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I hope so aswell ! New user and perhaps a new dev this is great
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Coming from rather small phones, the Sensation's screen is HUGE. It's gonna be fun.
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Coming from rather small phones, the Sensation's screen is HUGE. It's gonna be fun.
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I wish it was just a little bit smaller because i gotta use two hands alot -.- like if i want to press certain thing on screen... Otherwise amazing !
Camera could have been better tho..
Btw if you need help whit anything pm me or let me know here
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Is getting into the bootloader the same as the myTouch 3G Slide(vol down+ power)?
Hitorijanae said:
Is getting into the bootloader the same as the myTouch 3G Slide(vol down+ power)?
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On the sensation ? Yes. And one x is better
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Wellcome!!
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Thanks! Should I unlock the bootloader or go with S-OFF? I used to have S-OFF on my myTouch 3G Slide, before I made the stupid mistake of updating to the official FroYo, which destroyed my root and S-OFF. Also, will Darktremor work on this device?
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Thanks! Should I unlock the bootloader or go with S-OFF? I used to have S-OFF on my myTouch 3G Slide, before I made the stupid mistake of updating to the official FroYo, which destroyed my root and S-OFF. Also, will Darktremor work on this device?
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When you unlock bootloader you obtain s-off if im not wrong and the best way to do it is whit revolutionary method or htcdev works aswell but if you send your device backin whit htcdev method they will know you have hacked ur phone :/
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
Hitorijanae said:
Thanks! Should I unlock the bootloader or go with S-OFF? I used to have S-OFF on my myTouch 3G Slide, before I made the stupid mistake of updating to the official FroYo, which destroyed my root and S-OFF. Also, will Darktremor work on this device?
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Most definitely S-off, with S-off you have full read write permissions for all partitions. With HT Dev unlock you only have read write permissions for your System, Boot, and Recovery partitions. Plus you have to flash the boot.img for each ROM you want to use manually via fastboot command or use Smartflash in 4EXT.
Sorry but I do not know about Darktremor.
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to introduce myself and ask a bunch of n00bish questions.
I recently acquired an HTC One X on Rogers for dirt cheap (basically $0) and this is my first Android phone having used an iPhone for the past few years. I'm not completely lost around ROMs having cut my teeth on windows mobile phones right here on xda-devs years ago but my iPhone took me away for a number of years.
I've gone through as much of the existing FAQs and help threads as I could but I have a few questions I couldn't find the answers for: Hopefully these are simple enough for the folks here!
1) My HOX out of the box is running FW version 1.73, Android 4.0.3. I see there's some bootloader unlocking issues with AT&T HOX's with FW 1.85 and 2.2 and above. Do these restrictions not apply to the Rogers HOX? Is there a point i should be worried about not having an unlockable bootloader?
2) My ultimate goal is to get a maintainable ROM where I can easily get OS updates without having to manually reload any custom settings or apps. Being an Android n00b, I consistently hear about Cyanogenmod ROMs. Can I jump from my current Stock ROM straight to Cyanogenmod 10.1 JB? or do I have to do something in between?
3) Are there other community ROMs that's better for the HOX than CM? I'm looking for a plain jane out of box experience. I really love how the iPhone works really really great out of the box without any huge amount of setting changes. And that's what I strived for with my old windows mobile device ROMs.
4) Yay or Nay on HTC Sense?
5) Yay or Nay on Staying on the Stock Rogers ROMs (I think the JB update is available now).
6) If I elect to do all the OTA updates, is there something I should avoid like a permanent locked bootloader version or something like that?
7) If I install all the OTA updates and eventually end up on the Rogers JB rom (I assume it's a bunch of incremental updates since auto updates shows I have update 1.93 which isn't the JB rom), can I revert back to the 4.0.3 rom?
I think that's it for now... Sorry for the long list. it definitely grew as I typed it!
Thanks a tonne! I know how great a resource xda-devs was and is. Can't wait to get into all of this again. !
Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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apologies for my probing questions as I'm trying to flesh out the dependencies of everything...
Does the rogers HOX need to be s-off'd when flashing custom ROMs.
How do OTA updates work? Do they only apply to a certain kind of stock ROMs? Do custom ROMs have OTA updates?
thanks,
Depending on hboot yes s-off is preferred because it makes flashing easier. You will not have to flash boot image seperately. Some custom roms have ota built in so that you are notified of a new version. Once you start the unlock process it is wise to never take an ota update for stock Rom. Aosp such as Avatar and Sense based Viperxl both can be ota updated. There are more. It will usaully state these capabilities on the page.
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Venomtester said:
Depending on hboot yes s-off is preferred because it makes flashing easier. You will not have to flash boot image seperately. Some custom roms have ota built in so that you are notified of a new version. Once you start the unlock process it is wise to never take an ota update for stock Rom. Aosp such as Avatar and Sense based Viperxl both can be ota updated. There are more. It will usaully state these capabilities on the page.
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When you say I shouldn't take an OTA update after unlocking the bootloader, why is that?
Let's say I unlock the bootloader, but keep the stock rogers ROM and OTA update it. These are just OS updates right? they shouldn't touch the bootloader or do they?
Also, if the Rogers Bootloader is not locked down, then do I even need to unlock it? or do you guys mean it's unlockABLE and still needs to be unlocked?
Does rooting also make a device not OTA'able?
Finally, how are the bootloaders tied to the FW version and to the OS version? Coming from an iPhone, there was the baseband/Radio FW and OS versions, and sometimes a specific hardware version, but that's it. what's the heirarchy for the bootloader and the FW, and the OS?
finally, if there's a good resource that answers a lot of these "android rom 101" questions, please send along a link. I know you guys are busy!
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37665520
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40223035
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Thanks venomtester, I was just on those pages when I went to check for your reply.. =)
For a general question to the Rogers HOX folks...
just wanted to confirm the following workflow:
1) unlock my rogers HOX with htcdev unlock process
2) get root by running superboot r2
2) run facepalm to s-off my HOX
4) pick a ROM and flash!
That sound about right? I'm not missing anything obvious? I'm not entirely sure if the tools like superboot r2 and facepalm have been superceded by other tools. Especially with all the AT&T specific processes...
This certainly is a few more steps than I'm used to from my Windows Mobile days... =)
Thanks again,
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Thanks venomtester, I was just on those pages when I went to check for your reply.. =)
For a general question to the Rogers HOX folks...
just wanted to confirm the following workflow:
1) unlock my rogers HOX with htcdev unlock process
2) get root by running superboot r2
2) run facepalm to s-off my HOX
4) pick a ROM and flash!
That sound about right? I'm not missing anything obvious? I'm not entirely sure if the tools like superboot r2 and facepalm have been superceded by other tools. Especially with all the AT&T specific processes...
This certainly is a few more steps than I'm used to from my Windows Mobile days... =)
Thanks again,
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Step 2 should be flash TWRP 2.3.x.x no need for superboot r2?... not sure what that is.
And you'll need to flash a rooted rom before S-OFF or let TWRP root your rom if your hboot is under 2.14
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Deleted. Sorry ex ad. Didn't see your post.
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Lol, I don't care if other people answer too, so long as they're not answering with the wrong info. There's a few of us so it's hard to coordinate Didn't mean to jack your helping
Oh no sir. You didn't jack at all as I was going to quote your earlier post from a different thread.
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Thanks again guys!
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Rogers does not lock down bootloader. You should be fine.
As for sense or aosp it just depends on preference.
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My two Rogers one x handsets came with lock bootloaders. I just unlocked my second on on Saturday.
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What he was saying is they can be unlocked without having to change the cid which is what us with att phones have to do
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Looks like you can't unlock the bootloader through HTC Dev on the VZW M8 Just got mine and tried and get the dreaded Error 160 MID Not Allowed.
Ohhhhh, that is garbage
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Good ol Verizon locking their phones down again
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Looks like you can't unlock the bootloader through HTC Dev on the VZW M8 Just got mine and tried and get the dreaded Error 160 MID Not Allowed.
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IM sure someone will find way!
Why don't you try firewater s-off to see if the exploit still works? Please report back with your findings.
eidt: devs have said it could brick device, would not recommend doing it.
Thread Moved over to the Verizon M8 forum as it makes more sense to be here than the International forum
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Looks like you can't unlock the bootloader through HTC Dev on the VZW M8 Just got mine and tried and get the dreaded Error 160 MID Not Allowed.
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Just Tried. Can't Believe big red would do this to us. Time to dig out that ice cream and just wait till either community cracks it or htc actually lets us through.
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Can't Believe big red would do this to us.
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REALLY? This was the most predictable thing that Verizon could of done. Besides scribbling on the home power button and etching on the back,
"Dear consumers, we don't care..."
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Not sure why anyone is suprised. Those of us with the M7 knew this month's ago. For the first day after the M7 was released you could use HTC DEV unlock then VZ made HTC lock that down for the M7.
I too hoped maybe VZ had not gotten to HTC yet for the M8 so I tried but no luck. Will need to wait for rumrunner or firewater to be updated to support the M8. It may take a while....
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Not sure why anyone is suprised. Those of us with the M7 knew this month's ago. For the first day after the M7 was released you could use HTC DEV unlock then VZ made HTC lock that down for the M7.
I too hoped maybe VZ had not gotten to HTC yet for the M8 so I tried but no luck. Will need to wait for rumrunner or firewater to be updated to support the M8. It may take a while....
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I'm coming from a Note 3 so I'm not familiar with the M7, did rumrunner or Firewater allow for running custom asop roms?
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I'm coming from a Note 3 so I'm not familiar with the M7, did rumrunner or Firewater allow for running custom asop roms?
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Yes sir. Rumrunner gave you S-Off which is "Signature Off". Once that is set, you can flash custom recoveries and then custom rom's. It took months for the team to get this working and I know it did not work on 4.4.2. I think we are in for a long wait. If you bought this hoping you could get custom rom's you might want to reconsdier. If you like the phone and can live with it stock for a few months, it's a great device.
The M7 was the best phone I ever had and I swap phones a lot.
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Just Tried. Can't Believe big red would do this to us.
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That's sarcasm, right?
it will get unlocked. name another htc phone that hasn't?
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it will get unlocked. name another htc phone that hasn't?
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The stock One with 4.4.2 has not been able to achieve S-Off without a Java card. At lest not last time I looked.
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The stock One with 4.4.2 has not been able to achieve S-Off without a Java card. At lest not last time I looked.
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oh boy not good LOL
This phone has an sd slot. The earlier one didn't. Easier to hack from what I remember
Well what about root? With xposed, root alone can provide a lot of nice added functionality before the bootloader is figured out
Just picked up the M8. Tried HTC Dev and failed
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This phone has an sd slot. The earlier one didn't. Easier to hack from what I remember
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Couldn't agree more. I'm fine if we get custom recovery at some point but I'd really love to get titanium on and remove some of this Verizon crap... I mean stuff....
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Couldn't agree more. I'm fine if we get custom recovery at some point but I'd really love to get titanium on and remove some of this Verizon crap... I mean stuff....
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I disabled it all until then.