tethering using USB - Microsoft Surface

Can the Surface RT USB tether to smartphones? I have an older LG P990. When I tethered to my normal PC it had to first quickly install AndroidNET or whatever. That makes me think that it won't work on the RT.
I need to be able to tether, I could just go the route of a mobile hotspot, but I don't like the idea of every single Chinese person on the train trying to steal my wifi. They are pros at stealing wifi in this country.
I heard you can tether using bluetooth. Is that possible on the Surface RT?
Thanks,
lgnationrc

I tether to Surface from my Galaxy Nexus over bluetooth. It disconnects all the time without any reason but haven't been able to figure out why. With BT I can enable it on phone and it shouldn't eat battery like having wifi hotspot all the time active. I just open the BT PAN from Surface with 2 button presses and it opens in 1 sec. Only if the disconnect issue could be solved...

A few points, for the record:
1: Windows RT *probably* supports USB modems, which is how most wired tethering is done (the phone presents itself to the PC as a USB modem). I haven't tried, though.
2: Unless you use a crappy password - and really, why would you; it's not like you'll need to remember it at any time that you can't access it - WPA2-PSK is effectively unbreakable.
3: Don't be sure that Bluetooth is that much more secure. It is shorter range and lower power, though... but it's also lower bandwidth. A decent cellphone connection (3G, not even terribly good 3G) will saturate it.

Thanks, I will try it and see how it goes. Otherwise I will use Wifi, have no choice. Wifi gets stolen here all the time, even with that kind of setup.
Thank you

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[Q] Bluetooth tethering & USB Keyboard support

I know that the CM 6.1 supports the USB Keyboard/mouse, but what are the odds of getting the Bluetooth DUN tethering support ported over from the Archos 101 and 70 devices? Would love to hear some insight from the devs about the feasibility of having such a feature. I would love to leave my EVO tethered to the GTab over Bluetooth instead of Wifi. It would be a huge battery saver when I'm away from home/office wifi connection.
Also, USB Keyboard/mouse as a part of TnT? Possible? Worth it? Not worth it?
I second the above. BT stays on 24/7 on my phone, it would be much easier, and ideally we could eventually come up with some sort of on-demand script or app that keeps the BT DUN profile active, without battery drain on the cell.
With this in place, the gTab could connect and disconnect to the cell phone as needed, just like DUN should be. Best case scenario is to not even have to do anything on the phone, just enable BT on the gTab (or leave enabled as desired) and do some activity that accesses the internet. This would trigger a BT DUN connection to the phone, which disconnects after a certain period of inactivity (or manually, as desired).
If I knew a damn thing about how to program, this is what I would be trying to create.
That said, I'm a willing guinea pig.
Really? No one else is interested in this?
I know one of you guys out there has a rooted phone with wireless tether. I'm just starting down the root road. I have a Dinc, but it's been factory since I got it... and will be until the weekend, the gTab has whetted my whistle for root freedom.
What happens when you try to pair your gTab with your phone while it's got BT Tether activated? Any BT DUN profile goodness?
P_6 said:
What happens when you try to pair your gTab with your phone while it's got BT Tether activated? Any BT DUN profile goodness?
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I'll try it out and let you know.
Bluetooth Tethering a High Wish List Item
For me, getting the tablet to tether via bluetooth to my Blackberry Tour would be a high priority wish list item. I am completely in the dark with this stuff but I can tether my PC to my Blackberry so I should in theory be able to tether and use the network connection. I realize that most folks here probably have an Android-base smartphone, but my company makes me carry around their smartphone (and has the decency to pay for unlimited data plan). If I could get the tablet to work from the BB's network connection I would be almost complete on my wish list. I have gotten to the point of paring the two devices (but can't seem to get them to connect). I am using tnt lite 2.02 and my 9630 device has v 4.7.1.40 with 3G, CDMA connections.
Indeed, the hope would be that the BT stack within the gTab can take advantage of BT Dial up networking or Personal area networking profiles. Then we would be good to go. If not now, hopefully we can find a way to get that to work.
Really? No one care about Bluetooth Tether on this device?
You don't have to ask me twice Oops, you did.
I am extremely interested in a Bluetooth tethering solution for the gtab. It's the only way I will be able to get a 3G connection from my phone that won't be policed at work (non-corporate wifi hotspots are monitored).
I have a Nexus One Adnroid phone (running Froyo 2.2.1). I use the Wifi hotspot feature when I want hop online with my G-Tab (my work monitors wifi, as well but I only turn it on as I need it.) I can't speak for BlackBerry phones but any "rooted" Android phone should be able to act as a 3G/4G hotspot.
Wifi tethering should be faster, but USB tethering and keyboard & mouse support are needed and should work in the first place. (keyboard and mouse support at least should).
Need a program like http://android.gval.biz/ or ibluever for iphone/itouch then the g tablet would be my laptop replacement for traveling .
nicholas621 said:
Need a program like http://android.gval.biz/ or ibluever for iphone/itouch then the g tablet would be my laptop replacement for traveling .
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I've tried to run this on VEGAn ROM, configured but at the moment when It suppose to scan for Channels, it exits of message "Failed To connect to SDP server on device Blackberry 9000".... ideas?
nicholas621 said:
Need a program like http://android.gval.biz/ or ibluever for iphone/itouch then the g tablet would be my laptop replacement for traveling .
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Are you looking for DUN over BT? If so, have you tried this:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/pdanet/com.pdanet
Jim
I believe PDAnet requires client windows/mac software, and they haven't written client Android software.
I haven't seen anyone port the Archos home-grown BT tether to any other brand. BT tether isn't part of Android (I'm betting the cellcos in OHA demanded it not be built).
My wife has Joikuspot on her phone, so she wifi tethers on the G-tab.
I have unlimited bluetooth data, so I bought an Archos.
ml_boston said:
I believe PDAnet requires client windows/mac software, and they haven't written client Android software.
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You are right PDANet wont work as no client for Android, but from my experience listed above blackberry refusing connections.... or may be GTab just doesn't opening connection properly.
When I check GTable BT device property from Blackberry side it can do only:
Handsfree Audio Gateway
Headset Audio Gateway
Object Push
AV Remote Control Target
.... there is no DUN in the list, so I suspect it just not supported by BT stack on device.... but also I have in same my laptop listed as well which doesnt have DUN in its services

How to connect Android to the internet via USB - New Reverse tether app

This is a new app, that allows you to reverse tether your android (access your computer's connection via usb).
It doesn't require any extra software, or windows installations, or ADB/debugging, or tech savviness, and your connection looks like 3G so that all your apps work seamlessly including Market, Downloads and Talk. it requires a rooted device.
As you can see the process is very simple and takes only a few seconds... the app is called Reverse Tether and it's on the android market now.
A new version has been released
thanks.....
Thanks for this. By any chance would this happen to work on USB Dongles? And how would you setup the connection?
I can't see why not. Just use the wizard that is integrated in the app to help you set it up. The best way to find out really is to try it yourself, worst case senario you uninstall it.
not working
Hi!
I'm trying to do this on a droid x with the Apex ROM. When I start the app, it says "Failed to start Tethering. Make sure this device supports or allows Tethering. Otherwise, you won't be able to use this app.
There's not a whole lot of instructions on how to do a 'usb reverse tether' out there with this app. I have my connection set to "PC Mode" and I'm running on osx. I have to imagine that there's something special that needs to be done on the PC end that the instructions just aren't saying...
Thanks
wiz561 said:
There's not a whole lot of instructions on how to do a 'usb reverse tether' out there with this app. I have my connection set to "PC Mode" and I'm running on osx.
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You don't need any instructions. It's just one button you click it and it's supposed to connect you.
Maybe it's because you have your connection set to "PC MODE"??? Dunno.
On some phones like mine, when it's set to PC mode you can't do anything else with it. So try to turn off PC mode, if you can't then set it to debugging, that will turn off for sure.
You can also test if tethering works on your device by going to settings > wireless and network - and enabling Tethering yourself.
Just curious as to why you would need this?
The phone has WiFi and/or the network.
thanks
Thanks for the info. I'll have to try this. I guess I just have a hard time believing that you just plug the phone in the computer and it automagically works. I would imagine you would have to bridge usb0 or do something.
I tried to enable the 'tether' mode and the computer sees usb0, but that's about as far as I get with it.
As for why I'm doing it... I don't want to be mean, rude, or start anything, but because I have to. I get annoyed because most of the 'reverse tether' threads ask 'why' and 'why not just use wifi', instead of posting something useful. Here's the reason.
When I'm at work, I'm in the middle of nowhere. I get no cell signal, even if trying to use a wilson repeater. I also get no wifi, since the AP's are far away from me. I can't install my own AP because of policies, so what other option do I have? Either a BT PAN or a USB reverse tether. I'm kinda pissed about it and why Verizon won't install anything to get a signal. I'm paying 90 bucks a month and can't use my phone for 8 hours a day.
Once you enable tether, keep it on and try running the app again while it's on. Maybe that will work.
Also, sorry, yes there's a guide in the app that helps you set up your computer, but it's just sharing, a one time thing.. you don't need to bridge anything. But to get there you need to get tether option working.
daybis13 said:
Just curious as to why you would need this?
The phone has WiFi and/or the network.
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Why?
Not everyone have an unlimited mobile data plan. And if you have a limited plan, they're usually very expensive, so when you're at home or at work or at school why not spare your bytes and money?
And not everyone have access to WIFI or even need WIFI, it's silly to setup a WIFI network just for your phone. Besides, USB is musch faster, and more secure.
And since you're already connected to USB to recharge or sync, why not also have unlimited super fast internet for free?
RainZzz said:
Why?
Not everyone have an unlimited mobile data plan. And if you have a limited plan, they're usually very expensive, so when you're at home or at work or at school why not spare your bytes and money?
And not everyone have access to WIFI or even need WIFI, it's silly to setup a WIFI network just for your phone. Besides, USB is musch faster, and more secure.
And since you're already connected to USB to recharge or sync, why not also have unlimited super fast internet for free?
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agree... :thumbup::thumbup:
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RainZzz said:
Why?
Not everyone have an unlimited mobile data plan. And if you have a limited plan, they're usually very expensive, so when you're at home or at work or at school why not spare your bytes and money?
And not everyone have access to WIFI or even need WIFI, it's silly to setup a WIFI network just for your phone. Besides, USB is musch faster, and more secure.
And since you're already connected to USB to recharge or sync, why not also have unlimited super fast internet for free?
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Yeah, I'm agree with RainZzz. This threads is useful. Thanks
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droid x
I'm wondering, has anybody got this working on a droid x with the Apex rom? I've just about tried everything. USB Tethering loads drivers in Windows and works fine. The reverse tethering app still says the same error message. I'm starting to wonder if it's not compatible with the dx.
Thanks!
Hey wiz561, have you by any chance tried the most recent version? It seems like your issue have been fixed according to What's New.
If you don't have access to update, you can dowload the Reverse Tether APK file from the developer's website.
Dongle Support
Not compatible with the Transformer Prime. Though I'd instantly donate if it would allow dongles to work.
My question earlier was referring to the compatibility of this app with 3G/4G dongles. I ask because aren't dongles required to connect first via their dashboard/software before sharing the internet via USB? If that's the case, how then would this app reverse tether the dongle's connection? Is there a settings page for these things?
I wonder if it doesn't work for some of us because we have a LAN connection instead a wifi router or ethernet cable connection as the app says...
bad.bad.bad, when you connect your dongle, aren't you supposed to see its own Network Adapter in your Network Connections? I mean that's how Windows works. So just follow the same steps but share that network adapter instead.
Same goes for Netagirl, an ethernet connection is a LAN connection. So whichever network adapter connects you to the internet, share it with your phone's network that is created by the app.
RainZzz said:
bad.bad.bad, when you connect your dongle, aren't you supposed to see its own Network Adapter in your Network Connections? I mean that's how Windows works. So just follow the same steps but share that network adapter instead.
Same goes for Netagirl, an ethernet connection is a LAN connection. So whichever network adapter connects you to the internet, share it with your phone's network that is created by the app.
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Yeah, I think I made a mistake, my connection from my pc to my external modem, is not via ethernet but USB, so I don't know if that affects. And yes, I do exactly what you said and the app says that I have to respect trial's limitation, at every single hour I'd try =/
I wonder how much battery consumption will reduce using this over wifi tethering... gonna have to try it out. Thanks

[Q] PC Mouse Control Via Bluetooth

Hey everyone! Back home, I use Touchpad from Nullar (works fantastically) to control my PC and media players when I'm in bed or on my couch. However, I am now at school, and I cannot use WiFi in my room; I can't use Touchpad anymore. Has anyone attempted PC HID control via bluetooth or USB? I tried searching with several different keywords, but I was unsuccessful.
I don't think anybody has managed direct control over the USB connection yet, although we can manipulate it into a few known and pre-installed states (HID not being one of them, sorry). Bluetooth may be possible; we do have at least some access to the BT stack, although since it doesn't support HID natively either it would be quite a hack to get that working.
Are you disallowed WiFi for some reason, or do you just not have a WiFi network set up (and wow, are there really schools that still don't have WiFi in the dorms??)? A WiFi router is pretty cheap these days. Alternatively, it's possible to configure a PC's WiFi adapter to act like a WiFi access point, allowing the phoen to connect to it. I don't know for sure if Touchpad would work over that, but probably.
In theory, Touchpad should be possible over the Internet, though you'd need to open the firewall ports (whcih, depending on your school's network, might not be possible). Ot would lag, too.
GoodDayToDie said:
I don't think anybody has managed direct control over the USB connection yet, although we can manipulate it into a few known and pre-installed states (HID not being one of them, sorry). Bluetooth may be possible; we do have at least some access to the BT stack, although since it doesn't support HID natively either it would be quite a hack to get that working.
Are you disallowed WiFi for some reason, or do you just not have a WiFi network set up (and wow, are there really schools that still don't have WiFi in the dorms??)? A WiFi router is pretty cheap these days. Alternatively, it's possible to configure a PC's WiFi adapter to act like a WiFi access point, allowing the phoen to connect to it. I don't know for sure if Touchpad would work over that, but probably.
In theory, Touchpad should be possible over the Internet, though you'd need to open the firewall ports (whcih, depending on your school's network, might not be possible). Ot would lag, too.
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Touchpad over WiFi/internet already works. We do have WiFi in the dorms, but the routers are in the lounges (no signal in my room). The rooms have ethernet ports, which is what I use, however we aren't allowed to use a router/hotspot in our rooms because of throttling issues.
Making your PC use the built-in WiFi interface as an access point is probably your best bet. Obviously, lock the network down so it's not going to have other people connecting and getting you in trouble. Do a little searching and you should find the software that does this (there are a few different ones). It was actually supposed to be a Win7 feature, but at the end it shipped half-finished. A few other developers finished it up for Microsoft.
GoodDayToDie said:
Making your PC use the built-in WiFi interface as an access point is probably your best bet. Obviously, lock the network down so it's not going to have other people connecting and getting you in trouble. Do a little searching and you should find the software that does this (there are a few different ones). It was actually supposed to be a Win7 feature, but at the end it shipped half-finished. A few other developers finished it up for Microsoft.
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I tried doing this with my friend's laptop (I'll buy a dongle if this works), however my phone (SparkW) doesn't see the network, and when I type in the name manually it doesn't connect. The network was visible to another laptop though.
Did you make it appear as an access point ("Infrastructure" network), or merely cause the PC to create its own peer-to-peer ("ad-hoc") network? WP7 doesn't support that latter kind, but will happily connect to the former. Also, what software did you use? If it was anything that came with Windows, or with any Windows PC, it was almost certainly ad-hoc.
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Did you make it appear as an access point ("Infrastructure" network), or merely cause the PC to create its own peer-to-peer ("ad-hoc") network? WP7 doesn't support that latter kind, but will happily connect to the former. Also, what software did you use? If it was anything that came with Windows, or with any Windows PC, it was almost certainly ad-hoc.
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It was ad-hoc with the built in services. I'll try out connectify this weekend and post my results here.

[Q] Can we use P920(H) as a modem for a 3G router?

Hello all. I've just purchased a 3G/WAN WI-FI router (TP-Link model TL-MR3420 - link to manufacturer's page). It has an USB port to connect a 3G/4G modem. I tried to connect my P920H (V28b stock ICS - XBSA large partitions) but the router doesn't recognise it. I tried to use an older 3G phone (Sony Ericsson W980) and it works like a charm. In both cases I configured the phones to USB tether with their own configuration options.
Anyone managed to make this work? I believe the router lacks a driver, but I've found no driver for any phone on the manufacturer's page, although I works with the Walkman phone.
Edit: I forgot to mention that all tethering features on my phone works fine. I can turn on my hotspot and I can plug it to a PC's USB port and act like a modem. I just can't do it with my router.
Why I want to do this: Most of you who have nice broadband access may be wondering why I want to use my phone to provide Internet access to my router. Here's why: In the region I live, broadband access is a joke. A miserable 1Mbps insufficcient to watch even the lamest youtube video. But it has no limitations, so it is good for TV upgrades and other connected devices to do their maintenance.
On the other hand, my phone provider has a wonderful coverage around my house, sustaining an average of 3Mbps, reaching 10Mbps late at night. So, when I want a quicker net, like to watch Internet movies or download large files, I used to turn off my router and turn on the phone's hotspot. But even setting its SSID and password identical to the ones on the router, it takes some tweaking on the devices for them to reconnect. It was a nuisance.
With this 3G router, all I would have to do is connect the phone to it and it would switch from WAN to 3G. All I need is a driver that would make it recognize the phone and use it as a modem.
I messed with wifi tethering a bit a while back. Couldn't get it to work. My other phone sees it as a wifi point but won't connect. Something to do with LG not liking tethering I heard. I saw this mod that fixes tethering for some devices but never tried it ( I don't really need tethering). I am curious if it fixes it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37062006
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I messed with wifi tethering a bit a while back. Couldn't get it to work. My other phone sees it as a wifi point but won't connect. Something to do with LG not liking tethering I heard. I saw this mod that fixes tethering for some devices but never tried it ( I don't really need tethering). I am curious if it fixes it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37062006
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Hello drastic00!
Thank you for your suggestion. I understand that the mod you suggested can have nice effects on slow or even broken tethering.
The problem is that I haven't made myself clear on the first post. I can see it now and I'll edit it right away. The tethering feature on my phone works fine, both WI-FI and USB tethering works. What I need is a USB tethering that makes my router "think" that my phone is actually a 3G USB modem. When I use this feature on a PC, I have to install the drivers. The bad news is that I can't install these drivers on the router.
Okay. I figured if wifi tether isn't working then usb isn't either. So what firmware do you have on which it is working?
There was a small discussion on a thread a month or so ago; it wasn't working for the 4 or so people who posted then...I think we were all on ICS or higher, but not positive. That's when I tried to see if I could get wifi tether to work. I didn't try any usb tethering.
So I guess I am not understanding the advantage of plugging direct to the router. Why not plug the phone to pc (signal in) and the router to pc (signal out)? Because it would be easier to switch from the signal you normally use? This is a new one on me... I have no idea if an ethernet switch would be of use...2 signals in for the router to broadcast and choose which wifi signal on the client end (not sure if your router could do that, just grasping at straws, since I haven't tried anything like this).
It's weird other phones work though, so I am still curious if Crossbreeder mod would do anything. It seems the other phones have a piece of software the O3D does not. Unless the router has drivers installed for those devices by default, which I doubt; you didn't install anything for those to work, they worked out-of-the-box, so to speak, right?
Exactly. Both WIFI and USB tether always worked out of the box for me, with several ROMs, either stock and modded ROMs. Eventualy some modded ROMs did break tether, but usually broke many other things as well Probably too undervolt and/or too overclock among other things I don´t understand.
I remember that discussion about not working tether, but didn´t get involved. It never happened to me. I believe it is more a hardware issue. If it happened to me, the first thing I would do is install the original stock Froyo to be sure if tether didn´t work with the most original firmware.
As to why I want to put my O3D as the Internet provider for my network: I have several devices connected: 3 PCs, 2 Androids, 1 TV and 1 Blu-ray player. The last two are not too easy to make connect to a different WIFI net, even if they have the same SSID and passwords. I used to turn off the router and then turning on the phone´s hotspot. The problem is that almost always several of these devices didn´t realise the switch and kept trying to connect to the unavailable router. The same thing happend when switching from the phone to the router.
Also, I don´t want to buy a 3G modem, because the speed advantage (and low fees) are "connected" to my voice plan. The SIM card is my primary phone number So, I need it to be able to make and receive calls. If I purchase a new SIM card, I would have to cope with two bills. Again, no more advantages.
Breaking news: I just noticed that the Sony Ericsson Walkman phone I am using as a modem only gets 1Mbps download, exactly the speed my provider guarantees. My P920H can get more than 10 Mbps on times, but usually between 3 and 5 Mbps. I believe that V28b stock ICS somehow unlocks some sort of ISP speed limit. Now, more than ever I want to use my phone as a modem on my router.

Using an old Android as an 802.11ac WiFi adapter brings big limitations: why?

Since my old $15 TP-Link WiFi adapter I bought a few years ago has been disastrously slow (4mbps with stupidly bad ping spikes in games, only supports 2.4G), I decided I'd use my old Nexus 5X with USB tethering to use its WiFi connection. I can get 100+Mbps on 5.8G now - great! However, I've been wondering why it can't function as a normal USB adapter in a few areas. You can't select the wireless network you want to connect to from the PC and I can't successfully use programs that require port forwarding such as Moonlight Gamestream. I understand that this method of internet connection is bound to bring limitations but why is there no option to fully utilize the network card inside of the phone if I don't need to use the phone anyways? I'd really appreciate an answer from someone who might know about this...

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