So just a thought. While I have no problem with a non-removable battery my question is.. Down the road say 12-16 months when battery's just don't hold the charge like they used to. How hard would it be to swap the battery in the Nexus 4? Would it be a DIY or would it require a little more professional help?
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I've seen that it's pretty easy to get access to the battery. Back is held on by a couple of Torx screws. I'm not sure how the battery is connected though (directly soldered, wired connector, metal contacts, etc).
Its as easy as removing 2 screws. Already done by a reviewer:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/12jze2/nexus_4_battery_may_not_be_so_hard_to_replace_acc/
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Its as easy as removing 2 screws. Already done by a reviewer:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/12jze2/nexus_4_battery_may_not_be_so_hard_to_replace_acc/
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i think he meant the battery not the back cover, for what i could see in the pictures it was the back cover.
I was reading up on the differences between lithium ion and lithium polymer batteries and it seems that the polymer batteries don't degrade as quickly as lithium ion batteries do so they should theoretically last quite a bit longer than ion batteries. There are pros and cons but I like the idea of the nexus 4 having lithium polymer.
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Replacing the battery seems simple. I'm more worried that no one will bother trying to make a relatively affordable new back/extended battery that includes the antennas.
I believe the battery is bolted down and supports several fragile springs that are vital to reception....so I think the answer is no way?
Looks exactly how the Iphones have their battery... given their popularity and still haven't seen Iphones with extended internal batteries I'm going to say it won't happen for the nexus 4
Lithium Polymer batteries actually have a reduced cycle count when compared to Lithium Ion. However, they should still deliver about 75% capacity after ~800 cycles. You'll certainly notice your capacity diminishing after two years, but it should still be serviceable. If you're someone who keeps their phones for more than two years, you may want to consider a different phone, but if you upgrade somewhat frequently you should be fine without a replaceable battery.
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Lithium Polymer batteries actually have a reduced cycle count when compared to Lithium Ion. However, they should still deliver about 75% capacity after ~800 cycles. You'll certainly notice your capacity diminishing after two years, but it should still be serviceable. If you're someone who keeps their phones for more than two years, you may want to consider a different phone, but if you upgrade somewhat frequently you should be fine without a replaceable battery.
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Actually that 800 cycle rating is based on how many charges the battery can take before the capacity will drop below 80%. So at 800 charges you should be at 80 percent capacity.
http://forums.anandtech.com/archive/index.php/t-2131909.html
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And yes replacing the battery is a DIY job, you just can't replace it on the fly. If you run into a situation where your battery is defective then yes you can easily replace the battery with a screwdriver. It would be a pain in the ass to have a spare battery and change it out regularly...
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Peek-behind-LG-Nexus-4-back-cover-shows-replaceable-battery_id36266
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So I'm looking to get a spare battery and a separate battery charger and came across this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00520BC3M/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=AE3JA6SQN3O85
No reviews so far so I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience with Chichitec batteries in general. $30 for 2 batteries (1700 mah) and a charger seems like a good deal, that way I don't really have to spend time being plugged in. Too bad the battery door isn't as easy to open as I'd like to...
If you get them let me know how they work.
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Id say run....don't walk run....away from that link.
Cheapo batteries tend to cause perm damage. A el cheapo amazon battery for my g2 bricked one phone and almlost permabricked its replacement.
G2x with faux AOSP and faux orange kernel. [email protected] 5107 quadrant.
I don't know why people insist on a spare battery to change out each time the other one dies. Not only is it not practical if you can't charge the battery outside of the phone, but you'll be putting wear and tear on the battery cover and sooner or later you'll find it won't sit tight but will be loose in it's fit. That's why I just decided to invest in the 4500mah Mugen, even though I got a free replacement stock battery from Tmobile.
tackleberry said:
Id say run....don't walk run....away from that link.
Cheapo batteries tend to cause perm damage. A el cheapo amazon battery for my g2 bricked one phone and almlost permabricked its replacement.
G2x with faux AOSP and faux orange kernel. [email protected] 5107 quadrant.
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Chichitec is HTCExpress, their batteries aren't as bad as the ebay "cheapies". I had their 1800 in my Dinc and then G2, worked perfectly fine.
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I don't know why people insist on a spare battery to change out each time the other one dies. Not only is it not practical if you can't charge the battery outside of the phone, but you'll be putting wear and tear on the battery cover and sooner or later you'll find it won't sit tight but will be loose in it's fit. That's why I just decided to invest in the 4500mah Mugen, even though I got a free replacement stock battery from Tmobile.
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The chichitecs come with a separate charger to charge only the spare battery. But yeah, I'm worried that if I open the battery door frequently it will get loose or break.
@GideonX
When you used the chichitecs on those phones, did they at least last as long as the stock battery? That's really all I'm looking for
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I don't know why people insist on a spare battery to change out each time the other one dies. Not only is it not practical if you can't charge the battery outside of the phone, but you'll be putting wear and tear on the battery cover and sooner or later you'll find it won't sit tight but will be loose in it's fit. That's why I just decided to invest in the 4500mah Mugen, even though I got a free replacement stock battery from Tmobile.
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I don't necessarily disagree with your reasoning, it is a matter of perspective. It is just interesting how people can look at something differently. I think swapping batteries is a much more elegant solution then adding a gigantic protrusion to my phone. And battery covers are cheap, if it comes to that.
Cubeology said:
I don't necessarily disagree with your reasoning, it is a matter of perspective. It is just interesting how people can look at something differently. I think swapping batteries is a much more elegant solution then adding a gigantic protrusion to my phone. And battery covers are cheap, if it comes to that.
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And where can you get G2x battery covers, might I ask?
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The chichitecs come with a separate charger to charge only the spare battery. But yeah, I'm worried that if I open the battery door frequently it will get loose or break.
@GideonX
When you used the chichitecs on those phones, did they at least last as long as the stock battery? That's really all I'm looking for
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Yup, actually lasted longer than stock in my case. Im also a very heavy user, voice and data.
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And where can you get G2x battery covers, might I ask?
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I've tried to find the post in this forum that had the link to the battery doors. They were actually to the LG Optimus 2x and required purchase of a min of 5 doors. Many have claimed that they have received replacement doors for free, both from T-mobile store and phone representatives.
With that said I must concede that they are not readily available. And I am surprised that 3rd party colorized replacements are not being marketed.
Personally I use accessories that would not work with the oversize cover that I do not want to give up: rubberized case, leather holster, and especially the bicycle mount. I suppose I am willing to take the risk that either the door won't break or if it does I'll be able to acquire the part. By that time there probably be enough dead G2X's around to find one on eBay.
I do have an external battery that recharges the phone, I should probably use it before resorting to swapping internal batteries. It's not that much trouble to use while still using phone, just a small object dangling from the charging/usb port on the phone.
Any more reviews on the CHICHITEC batteries, positive or negative? Do they report the correct temperature?
Thanks.
I ended up getting 2 3500 and 1 stand up spare charger for 25.
If you mind the bigger backdoor I say go for that.
But then again im really safe with my phone SO i dont end up dropping it.
One of the batteries is an OEM battery... not a "cheapy" battery. Just as reliable as the stock one you have in your phone right now..?
I also notice that. I wonder why?
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so I bought the 2x chichitec. I charged one and stuck it in my phone. The phone displayed 72% and 4190mV. WTF??? The voltage is believable - what piece of s/w or h/w came up with 72%? Also, the temp is stuck at the unbelievable 25.2C, which is disappointing. I haven't tried the 2nd battery, which is a different color. so, I downloaded this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
and am topping it off again, as the app recommends.
So how does the phone come up with the "n%"?
How is that other battey working???
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both batteries very similar in performance as original, except no temp sensor. Charger charges slow, so it keeps the battery cool during charging. I bought these as backups for my wife, so when she gets the Screen Of Death she can swap in a fresh battery. As I've stated in other posts, if we re-boot once a day, we don't get the SOD. But I can't get her to consistently do that, so she pays about twice a month.
I do wish the temp sensor worked, because I have a profile set in setCpu for over temp, but we are just using these as backups, so...
I bought this set from Amazon because I was looking for swapping batteries for my phone and my wife's, who also has a G2x. I'm not sure if it's the methodical charge time with the charger or what, but I'm getting freakishly good battery life, with both the OEM batteries that came with the phone, and the Chichitec batteries. Light to moderate usage, I still have my Chichitec battery at 86% after being on for just shy under 7 hours, from what CM7 Spare Parts is telling me.
I'll be going to bed with the fully charged battery, and go to work with it for a majority of the next day, and swap them out around 11am, and stick the dead one on charge when I get home at 2pm, rinse, repeat. I haven't charged my phone since I bought this set.
Also, for those wondering, like myself, both of these batteries are NON-oem--just one is black like the OEM, and one is red, both of them are Chichitec batteries.
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I'm not sure if it's the methodical charge time with the charger or what, but I'm getting freakishly good battery life, with both the OEM batteries that came with the phone, and the Chichitec batteries.
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From my limited knowledge of batteries, charging slow and cool helps. Also this article discusses the charging routine can make a long term difference. It'd be interesting to KNOW if the chichitec charger is "better" for these batteries...
@tzbigworm, please re-post in a few weeks your longer-term results.
namklak said:
From my limited knowledge of batteries, charging slow and cool helps. Also this article discusses the charging routine can make a long term difference. It'd be interesting to KNOW if the chichitec charger is "better" for these batteries...
@tzbigworm, please re-post in a few weeks your longer-term results.
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Will do. I'm charging my batteries SOLELY using the charger provided by Chichitec. I've not charged the batteries strictly through the phone, just exchange during work and later in the evening, depending on usage, of course.
So I tend to run low on battery since I'm a heavy user (games, texting, web browsing, all that fun stuff)
so I decided why not get a 3500mAh battery but the problem is I'm scared I'm going to drop it and everything gets ruined.
Right now I have a case so I was thinking why not get 2 more 1500mAh batteries (comes with a separate charger so I could charge them whenever) along with my stock battery and have at least one spare near me at all times. But I thought it might be a little tedious.
What do you guys think?
I grabbed the 2430mah battery. Lasts a little longer than stock. I got two of them so I could easily go like 3 days without a charge if both batteries were full.
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So I tend to run low on battery since I'm a heavy user (games, texting, web browsing, all that fun stuff)
so I decided why not get a 3500mAh battery but the problem is I'm scared I'm going to drop it and everything gets ruined.
Right now I have a case so I was thinking why not get 2 more 1500mAh batteries (comes with a separate charger so I could charge them whenever) along with my stock battery and have at least one spare near me at all times. But I thought it might be a little tedious.
What do you guys think?
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Just curious why you think you'll drop the 3500 any more than the phone with other batteries? I have the Mugen 4500 and I don't have any issues holding onto it lol.
It's really a matter of personal preference. I personally don't like carrying extra batteries with me. The extended life battery keeps me from worrying about my battery life even under my days of heaviest usage. The only issue I have with the Mugen (not sure if its the same with the 3500) is that photos come out funny if I use the flash. They have this haze because the flash reflects off the oversized battery cover. Photos without flash look just fine tho.
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Just curious why you think you'll drop the 3500 any more than the phone with other batteries? I have the Mugen 4500 and I don't have any issues holding onto it lol.
It's really a matter of personal preference. I personally don't like carrying extra batteries with me. The extended life battery keeps me from worrying about my battery life even under my days of heaviest usage. The only issue I have with the Mugen (not sure if its the same with the 3500) is that photos come out funny if I use the flash. They have this haze because the flash reflects off the oversized battery cover. Photos without flash look just fine tho.
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I have butterfingers and am one of those people that you see constantly dropping there phone and you have no idea how they're dropping their phone.
95% of the pictures I post on here are with the phone with the extended battery.
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I personally would also think it would be a bit tedious to carry around 2 extra batteries all the time. I got a 3500 myself, it lasts a really long time. Though they are a bit weird to get used to, since the device is used to the original 1500 it will show 100% life when the battery is charged to about half of the 3500. People also say that it needs to go through a few charge cycles to get the full effect.
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I personally would also think it would be a bit tedious to carry around 2 extra batteries all the time. I got a 3500 myself, it lasts a really long time. Though they are a bit weird to get used to, since the device is used to the original 1500 it will show 100% life when the battery is charged to about half of the 3500. People also say that it needs to go through a few charge cycles to get the full effect.
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Couldn't you just go into recovery mode and reset battery stats?
I have a stock battery, had my phone for about 3 months, my battery is actually pretty good.. by the end of the day ill have at least 40% left.
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Can someone shoot me a link please I can't seem to find it. It not really the supercharger that I'm looking for its the battery calibrator that I've seen in the same thread if anyone knows I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance
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Battery calibration isn't going to make your battery any better.
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It stated that it could give me a fuller charge. I have a 3500Mah battery so I don't care about that. I just need to make sure I'm getting a full charge. You know all the way to 4200mv
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You're getting the full charge, don't worry about it. It's not a good indication, due to the fact it's a cheap onboard voltmeter, lithium ion batteries keep their voltage much better than lead acid batteries and keeping the charge and voltage even close to that level for extended periods of time damage your battery exponentially compared to other charges.
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You're getting the full charge, don't worry about it. It's not a good indication, due to the fact it's a cheap onboard voltmeter, lithium ion batteries keep their voltage much better than lead acid batteries and keeping the charge and voltage even close to that level for extended periods of time damage your battery exponentially compared to other charges.
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So the script is bull ****?
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So the script is bull ****?
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Reading the script just now, all it does is a long and winding process to delete the batterystats.bin file. Note that this has nothing to do with calibration or supply capabilities, it is quite literally just the little graph and app usage % in the settings -> battery menu (which is deleted automatically once charge gets between 90 and 95%).
There is a few other things which it fiddles around with which looks like a futile effort to confuse the battery/OS into giving a false value of "full charge" at the least.
Hello all, I come to you today about the Inspire 4G's dismal idle time.
After having used the device for about a year I decided to perform some maintenance on the likely dismal specifications and purchased an updated battery. After a few weeks of use I peaked at around 3-4 days of idle battery life, which is fairly impressive for an Android device, especially on a non-stock rom.
I'm running Android Revolution HD 6.3.3 by mike1986. I typically overclock a healthy amount because it only seems to effect battery life.
If you're a user of the Inspire 4G, and often analyze your battery usage available on the about page you note that the Display subsection takes up the highest percentage of your battery. Which is sensible, because it's bright and large, but even in times of idle it tends to take up quite a bit.
I have a suggestion to make off of passive observation that perhaps the device includes other devices under the guise of Display. Namely, the speaker. If you keep the speaker at a lower level, the idle power usage of the Display should reduce greatly.
Again I come to this from passive observation, and the fact that their is no power subsection which likely includes the speaker.
Please post your results if you have any success with this and your battery life.
I also strongly reccomend this battery the Ecell 2430 mAh has provided an excellent improvement, perhaps even double the stock battery.
Good luck with your battery lives.
That battery you are using has no more capacity than the stock battery. You can't add capacity to a battery without adding to the physical dimensions of the battery. It's like a fuel tank. The reason it lasts longer is because it's a new battery as opposed to a year or more old battery.
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That battery you are using has no more capacity than the stock battery. You can't add capacity to a battery without adding to the physical dimensions of the battery. It's like a fuel tank. The reason it lasts longer is because it's a new battery as opposed to a year or more old battery.
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Well I'm interested in where you gleaned this fact from.
A cursory glance at wikipedia indicates that there is a nominal range of energy densities for lithium-ion batteries (250-730 W·h/L), which directly contradicts what you just said/made up.
It's also a side-note to this thread, because the real point of it was seeing whether or not the speaker/audio output is on the same rail as the display, and thus measured in the power usage calculation.
I'm talking about removable phone batteries. Your 2430 is a lie. Scratch the cover off and see how it's re badged. I and another user proved this via extensive testing a couple years ago in the touch pro 2 section. Dude bought hundreds of dollars worth of stuff to prove the point. There's a big difference in the density that can be achieved in a lab and in very expensive batteries, but not so much in the battery made in a Chinese hell hole by some dudes that don't know they're getting poisoned every day(lithium battery production is nasty) and sold to us on the cheap
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not so much in the battery made in a Chinese hell hole by some dudes that don't know they're getting poisoned every day(lithium battery production is nasty) and sold to us on the cheap
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Oh they know they're getting poisoned, and the stuff they produce is sold on the cheap, they just have to work or else they and their family will starve.
But yes, almost all batteries out there don't match their specifications. The few that do are ghastly expensive- the mugen one is a solid battery that has 1600mah and it sells for $40- more than I got this phone for.
Try battery monitor widget. There are tutorials out there. It will attempt to estimate mah, for the most part it won't be anywhere near what it was advertised as. If it is, check back in six months to see if it still is chances are it'll not have the quality to last.
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I agree that Marshmallow hurts this phone's battery, however I just replaced my battery and it's night and day. I'm getting almost twice my previous capacity.
I wonder if the original batch of batteries on the Note 5 don't have a great lifespan.
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The lifespan is probably the same, but after 18+ months, batteries start to show some moderate signs of wear and reduced battery life.
EDIT: What replacement battery did you end up going with? I have been contemplating replacing the batteries in the two Note 5's I currently have in my household. Looking on Amazon there doesn't seem to be a good OEM battery option other than a certified refurbished, which I am unsure how OOB capacity it will be.
Don't quote me on our battery in particular, but many LI-ion batteries have a roughly 500 charge lifespan before they start to lose charge below 80-85% (no this isn't going to be scientific with references, deal with it as I'm exampling with some rough numbers ). Most quick charging technologies reduce this even further due to the cell degradation. Charging your phone daily leads to over 500 charges in 18 months.
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The lifespan is probably the same, but after 18+ months, batteries start to show some moderate signs of wear and reduced battery life.
EDIT: What replacement battery did you end up going with? I have been contemplating replacing the batteries in the two Note 5's I currently have in my household. Looking on Amazon there doesn't seem to be a good OEM battery option other than a certified refurbished, which I am unsure how OOB capacity it will be.
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I ended up with the "TQTHL Samsung Galaxy Note 5 battery | 3200mAh Lithium Ion"
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Thanks, I may look into that one. Also it should have better battery life over the OEM battery, since it has an additional 200mAh of juice.
How was the replacement process for you? I have a bit of knowledge in replacing screens on the Note 2/3 and LG G5, but do not currently have a heat gun. Apparently a hair dryer is sufficient, but not sure the added time it would cause.
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Thanks, I may look into that one. Also it should have better battery life over the OEM battery, since it has an additional 200mAh of juice.
How was the replacement process for you? I have a bit of knowledge in replacing screens on the Note 2/3 and LG G5, but do not currently have a heat gun. Apparently a hair dryer is sufficient, but not sure the added time it would cause.
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The process was pretty much like the YouTube videos. Surprisingly though, you have to get the thing very hot to release the glass adhesive. I needed gloves to handle the phone!
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