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I've got a Kenwood BT-200 bluetooth handsfree car kit and have found the following issues with it;
1. Everytime a call is completed, the phone book downloads all over again and takes over 10 minutes, preventing making follow on calls till complete.
2. The received and dialed calls list doesn't work
3. Cannot initiate a call from the head unit unless the phone screen is on (was working perfectly on previous HTC Touch Cruise).
4. Unable to initiate voice dialing on Phone using Microsoft Voice Command whereas with previous HF kits it was as simple as pressing and holding the call button.
Anyone else use the same Touch Pro - BT200 combination? Or experience similar problems with other HF kits?
I have Pioneer BT unit. I can not connect, but I installed Hands-Free Config from JETware Mobile Software and it solved all my problems. There are many setting options which should help you...
Hi Pritman,
I just went through the same thing after upgrading to the Touch Pro from the Dopod 838Pro (Hermes).
There's a firmware update available for the KCA-BT200 which may well fix your issues (certainly did mine).
I created a post about this earlier today (didn't see your post here).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440494
The firmware flash is very easy to do. You will just need a laptop with a bluetooth adaptor.
Codenix.
Kenwood have released another update.
See my other post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=440494 for details.
Codenix.
Wow, never thought I would fine anyone else with the combination of Kenwood DNX-7100, KCA-BT200 AND the touch pro. I am having similar issues.
DNX-7100 with BT100 worked fine with touch pro.
"upgraded" to BT200, and I have nothing but headaches.
I have tried two different BT200, and both have been flaky.
I have tried BT200 firmware 1.60 and 1.70, and both have been flaky.
My problem is similar to the ones you folks have been experiencing, mainly it is constantly downloading, and the interface is super sluggish when downloading. I can retrieve a name and phone number from the BT200's memory, but when I call out it will say downloading and do nothing. Sometimes it won't "pair" with the phone automatically unless I manually select my phone from the DNX-7100, and sometimes it will just drop the connection. I used the BT100 for about a year, and it was solid 95% of the time. I am running stock Telus rom, btw. I have also played around with the dip switch on the BT-200. From the shipped manual, DNX-7100 belongs in group F, which is off, off, on for dip switch 1, 2, 3. But when I searched online, some of Kenwood's info listed the DNX-7100 under group G, which has dip switch off, on, off, just to add to the confusion. I have also tried removing the "wireless stereo" profile as well as the "serial port" profile, but that fixed nothing. Lastly, just to kick me when I'm down, when it list the numbers, sometimes it list them as first name, then last name, but sometimes it list it as last name then first. This is super irritating as you can't be sure where anyone is listed ..... so far my experience with the BT200 has been nothing but horrible. I am on the verge of flashing my touch pro to a cooked ROM just to see if it is due to the stock Telus rom's bluetooth (I went back to stock as the juggalo rom I used became corrupt after a few weeks).
So, did you guys finally find a solution that worked 100% of the time?
Idea
Hi Guys, I'm glad there are more people out there with my combination.
Upgrading the BT 200 to 1.70 has improved things significantly but not as good as it would be with another handset like a Nokia N95. The download delay and sluggishness still exist.
I recall when I paired the TP, a notice came up on the TP that the BT 200 is requesting access to the phonebook or contacts and prompted me to allow or deny. I'm wondering what would happen if I deny? I do know that when I first paired the N95 with the older firmware, it wouldn't syncronise the contacts and I had to manually send the contacts to the BT 200. If this can be done with the TP, it may eliminate the constant downloading, perhaps.
Anyone else willing to try this. I may not be able to do this till later this weekend so if any of you do manage to test this before me, please post the results.
Good luck!
If you don't give it access to the phonebook, I suspect it can't download your phonebook automatically, and you would have to manually push the phonebook over, which defeats the purpose of the BT-200, effectively making it a BT-100. After trying a 2nd BT-200 for 3 days, I have given up and chalked up the BT-200 as extremely flaky, and is easily the worst purchase I have ever made as:
1) Half the time it won't pair with the phone automatically
2) The other half when it does pair, you can't dial out as half time time again when you want to make it call, it decides to do a download from your phone instead (never mind that it already "downloaded" when it paired already. Half x half = quarter.
3) Half the time when it does manage to make it call, it magically drops the bluetooth pairing and drops the call.
If you're keeping track, we are at half x half x half, which is 0.125, or this damn thing only works 12.5% of the time. This is not a time saver, nor a gadget of convenience/safety. It is the ultimate source of anxiety, danger (as you're trying to get the damn thing to work), and a big disappointment. Kenwood, shame on you for putting out such flaky products, and especially for not fixing it (look at the first post, it is from Oct 08).
I am going to return both of my BT-200 to Clutchfield, and am going back to my 99% stable BT-100. BT-100 actually is not as horrible with the TP as TP runs WinMo 6.1, which lets you push multiple phone book contacts at once (not like the older WinMo where you had to push contacts ONE BY ONE!!!). The only caveat with the BT-100 is if you need to delete or modify any contacts, you can't, and you have to delete all the entries for a particular phone and repair and push all contacts again, which takes 1 minute now as oppose to half an hour with pre-WinMo 6.1. When I buy a HU next time, I don't think I will consider Kenwood again due to:
1) Flaky software/interface.
2) Poor documentation.
3) Poor service support. Kenwood Canada actually NEVER REPLIED. I only received the auto-gen email notification indicating they received my email. Clutchfield Canada has been very supportive, and I will pay more to buy from them in the future solely due to their strong customer support.
Hi Johnnysks,
As far as the Touch Pro is concerned, I understand your frustration and totally support your argument.
On the other hand, I have tested the BT-200 with a Nokia 96 & my previous Touch Cruise, works like a dream! I've had good responses from Kenwood UK but whenever I contact HTC, I alway get vague responses, which to me suggests that Kenwood must have been making the effort but keep getting let down by HTC. Ultimately the BT-200 works with majority of the handsets out there.
I will still keep trying for a solution though as I really do like the TP and the BT-200!
I have no doubts the BT-200 works with other phones, and I know my TP works with my BT-100 flawlessly. I also know from prior personal dealings with Kenwood Canada's technical support that:
1) They're rude, have a bad attitude, and unprofessional (as my first inquiry for a different product from a year ago was met with a reply that was condescending, unhelpful, and was not even in proper English). I'll be more than happy to dig up my old email for you if you have any doubts.
2) They're not responsive. It's been over a week, and they never replied to my current inquiry regarding the BT-200 (funny. They used to be rude and unprofessional. Now they're missing in action)
Perhaps Kenwood USA, Kenwood UK, or Kenwood Japan are doing an awesome job. However, I can only go with what I have personally experienced.
Anyone find a fix for this? I have the same problems with my DNX8120. Tried Jetware, no luck, I would try BTRestore, but it won't work with .net 3. My biggest complaint is that even if it is connected via bluetooth, it won't start a call from th eheadset unless the phone is not in standby. Next biggest issue is that it drops the connection after hanging up from a call.
Very f*&%*g annoying!
FYI, worked with 2 different ETEN's
For those (like myself) that have been less than satisfied with the Bluetooth voice dialing in Froyo on our Captivates there may be a pretty good solution for you.
Not sure how long its been out but Vlingo includes a beta version of a feature called "Vlingo In Car" that actually supports bluetooth dialing among other things.
Tried it out the other day and...it works! And pretty good too.
I had tried "Choice Dialer" which claims that it supports bluetooth dialing but I was never successful at getting it to work...even a little.
So, if you have Froyo on your Cappy, and want to be able to bluetooth voice dial, then give Vlingo a try. It's available, for free, in the Marketplace.
I saw that earlier tonight, and was disappointed to find it requires Froyo.
I'm holding off for a beta that seems less buggy. Seems like a lot of varying issues on it.
Of course, maybe the real release is not far off.
But I'll be keeping this Vlingo option in mind. It may just motivate me to try the 2.2 again.
I downloaded it onto my Cog 2.2 B6 and it doesn't work at all. Won't recognize any input from the bluetooth headset. Even the built-in Google search dialer is better than this. My headset works fine during calls, and will even play media. And I could initiate voice calls on Windows Mobile (Voice Command) without touching the phone.
Any tips on how I can get Vlingo working?
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For those (like myself) that have been less than satisfied with the Bluetooth voice dialing in Froyo on our Captivates there may be a pretty good solution for you.
Not sure how long its been out but Vlingo includes a beta version of a feature called "Vlingo In Car" that actually supports bluetooth dialing among other things.
Tried it out the other day and...it works! And pretty good too.
I had tried "Choice Dialer" which claims that it supports bluetooth dialing but I was never successful at getting it to work...even a little.
So, if you have Froyo on your Cappy, and want to be able to bluetooth voice dial, then give Vlingo a try. It's available, for free, in the Marketplace.
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Hey Ozone...you there? Still working for you?
I just installed the Cognition 2.2B8.1 specifically for this. This is what I am finding:
It will launch the Vlingo wiht the button, IF the phone is not asleep. Well, maybe it is launching if not asleep, but I don't know, as I get no audible, and the screen does not come on.
The other problem I have, which is not related to Vlingo, is that it seems that the phone does not hear me over BT. That's likely a rom problem.
Also, I find it does not dial automatically if I have more than 1 phone numbrer for someone, which for most I do. It just brings up the contact and the phone list and I have to choose one.
Is it working like that for you?
And, what Froyo build are you using?
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Hey Ozone...you there? Still working for you?
I just installed the Cognition 2.2B8.1 specifically for this. This is what I am finding:
It will launch the Vlingo wiht the button, IF the phone is not asleep. Well, maybe it is launching if not asleep, but I don't know, as I get no audible, and the screen does not come on.
The other problem I have, which is not related to Vlingo, is that it seems that the phone does not hear me over BT. That's likely a rom problem.
Also, I find it does not dial automatically if I have more than 1 phone numbrer for someone, which for most I do. It just brings up the contact and the phone list and I have to choose one.
Is it working like that for you?
And, what Froyo build are you using?
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Remember, its still a beta product but some of your problems are most likely related to the ROM.
I tried Cog Beta 8, briefly, and went back to beta 7 after bluetooth was totally screwed up.
As far as the list of numbers is concerned, it gives you the list when it's not sure of what type of number you requested ("Work"; "Home"; "Mobile"). Or, if you request a number type that a contact has multiples of (like more than one "Mobile" like I have).
While not perfect, over all it has worked pretty well...at least better than any other Bluetooth dialing solution that I have tried. YMMV.
Here is an update:
I re-flashed my phone and now Vlingo In Car doesn't work at all.
I'm still at Cog Beta 7 but now it does not respond to me through the headset.
I'm going to try a couple things and let you know what I find.
Love the big buttons in car mode, and voice recognition is a big improvement over trying to get Google search.
One problem I have is when the phone is turned so that the top faces to the right in car mode. The basic interface shows with the correct orientation no matter which way the phone is turned, top to the right, left or up. But in car mode, when the phone is turned so the usb connection faces right, hitting any button results in the next interface being upside down. Works just fine if usb faces left or the phone is upright.
I'm on cog 2.2 beta 6. I have a blueant s4 and voice dialing is working well. It took a few tries and I'm not sure what caused it to start working, but it is. This is using the vlingo incar app. It works for calls, messaging, and searches (all I've tried so far).
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The latest update for me: out works part time. It of not near as accurate on finding contacts as Google Voice Search.
One thing that I miss compared to MS V pice Command is the capability got it to work even if not in car mode.
I've tried Vlingo multiple times on my Captivate running Perception with a BlueAnt T1, not only does the T1 keep saying it isn't supported if I have it set to Vlingo, but the application itself is as close to useless as possible. No matter which number I tell it to call my mom at, it ALWAYS dials her cell. Additionally, I tried to follow some of the commands under the What Can I Say? area and they all opened a web browser.
Unfortunately, I paid for this worthless junk.
Voice Dialing under Perception 10.x and above works fine with my Jawbone Icon and I am trying to see if I can get Voice Dialing to work with my Alpine kce-400BT unit in my truck. Otherwise I have not had any issues with it at all.
HTH,
Charlie
I am using the Bluetooth voice dialing on Paragon RC5.1 with my Pioneer FH-P800BT car stereo and it works perfectly.
So what software works perfectly for you?
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blueant + vlingo + firefly = working bluetooth dialing.
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blueant + vlingo + firefly = working bluetooth dialing.
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Does Vlingo give you consistently accurate dialing? If it does, I'm glad for you
While I can get it to dial via blue tooth, I find it doesn't do so consistently accurately, based on useing on 3 different BTooth devices, and even if just using without blue tooth.
Also, it has no validation. Must either trust it to dial right, or press from a list it pulls up.
Choice Dialer would ideal, if only it worked. It is 10 times worse than Vlingo, for me.
Nothing I've tried works anything near as good as Microsoft Voice Command did.
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Nothing I've tried works anything near as good as Microsoft Voice Command did.
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I hear that! I never had any problems with voice dialing with VC. Too bad nothing I've seen on Android comes close.
ewingr said:
Does Vlingo give you consistently accurate dialing? If it does, I'm glad for you
While I can get it to dial via blue tooth, I find it doesn't do so consistently accurately, based on useing on 3 different BTooth devices, and even if just using without blue tooth.
Also, it has no validation. Must either trust it to dial right, or press from a list it pulls up.
Choice Dialer would ideal, if only it worked. It is 10 times worse than Vlingo, for me.
Nothing I've tried works anything near as good as Microsoft Voice Command did.
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vlingo def superior in recognition. I don't use the feature but set it up for my dad on his new captivate.
I did 10 test dials with it with only hiccup in which is it choose a very similar sounding name rather than what i was trying to dial.
Did Vlingo work via Bluetooth? I can't get mine to recognize any devices. Called Samsung and they basically told me too bad.
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Did Vlingo work via Bluetooth? I can't get mine to recognize any devices. Called Samsung and they basically told me too bad.
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Depending on what ROM you use, you may need to use Blue Tooth Launch.
It may be that Vlingo works fairly well with direct voice on the phone, but poor on blue tooth. At least it is quite poor for me. The times it does find the right person to call, it brings up a list of all phones to choose, instead of dialing "Mobile" if that is what I ask for.
Vlingo doesnt recognize many of my contacts. like I have Marko in my phonebook...and when i say Call Marko or Call Marko mobile or Dial Marko mobile, or whatever...it doesn't find it, instead it finds marco with a C. And i don't have any Marcos in my address book. WTH. I wont even talk about other names it doesn't even recognize at all, it just launches the browser and searches for a completely different thing. FOr some names i have last names as well, and i clearly say the last name and it doesn't work. Beh. I was hoping this app will do better. at least be smart enough to recognize marko from marco, its darn too easy. beh lol.
Hey guys,
I upgraded my wife to the SkyRocket for Christmas, but I'm having a problem using the Bluetooth with our motorcycle helmet headsets.
Everything pairs just fine, but once connected a push of the BT button on the headset should initiate Voice Dial (at least that's what happens with my DINC2). However her SR will go straight in to the dialer, and dial one of her contacts. Its always the same contact too (and not even someone she really wants to talk too lol)
Is there anyway to change/set the default BT Action on the SR??
Unrooted - completely stock ROM.
Thanks
Ed
Hey Ed,
I am working on the same thing. I have a Cardo Scala Rider G4 that I used with my iPhone. I was quite disappointed in the BT performance. I have gotten some voice dialing to work on it. It's not 100%, but it's certainly better than what is going on.
Get the Galaxy S2 voice 2 go (from the orig GS2 - check this thread) - It's basically a rebranded Vlingo, but has a couple more commands (like play music).
The Dial button still didn't work with it, but now does with the Bluetooth Launch app. Thankfully it's free. Make sure you reboot the app after installing it. It seems like the app just needs to be there, and you don't have to configure it to run the Galaxy Voice 2 go / vlingo.
Some things still not great for bikers like us:
- Can't initiate voice dialing / actions with screen locked (there is a bypass setting from what I read in other threads, but it doesn't seem to be in our ROM)
- haven't tested voice initiated answer, but I am not holding my breath.
Let me know how you make out!
-- Steve
radon222 said:
Hey guys,
I upgraded my wife to the SkyRocket for Christmas, but I'm having a problem using the Bluetooth with our motorcycle helmet headsets.
Everything pairs just fine, but once connected a push of the BT button on the headset should initiate Voice Dial (at least that's what happens with my DINC2). However her SR will go straight in to the dialer, and dial one of her contacts. Its always the same contact too (and not even someone she really wants to talk too lol)
Is there anyway to change/set the default BT Action on the SR??
Unrooted - completely stock ROM.
Thanks
Ed
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You upgraded your Wife, to a skyrocket?? Just sounds unnatural..
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Hey Ed,
I am working on the same thing. I have a Cardo Scala Rider G4 that I used with my iPhone. I was quite disappointed in the BT performance. I have gotten some voice dialing to work on it. It's not 100%, but it's certainly better than what is going on.
Get the Galaxy S2 voice 2 go (from the orig GS2 - check this thread) - It's basically a rebranded Vlingo, but has a couple more commands (like play music).
The Dial button still didn't work with it, but now does with the Bluetooth Launch app. Thankfully it's free. Make sure you reboot the app after installing it. It seems like the app just needs to be there, and you don't have to configure it to run the Galaxy Voice 2 go / vlingo.
Some things still not great for bikers like us:
- Can't initiate voice dialing / actions with screen locked (there is a bypass setting from what I read in other threads, but it doesn't seem to be in our ROM)
- haven't tested voice initiated answer, but I am not holding my breath.
Let me know how you make out!
-- Steve
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Thanks for the suggestions Steve!
We're using the Sena SMH10 headsets and have pretty happy with them, even with my wife's old Iphone 3GS. I'd just like to avoid the odd behavior that she's had with the SR.
Voice dial with my DINC2 works ok as long as I'm stopped. Once I get moving however, the helmet/wind noise confuses the voice dialer and I never know who I'm going to get lol
You upgraded your Wife, to a skyrocket?? Just sounds unnatural..
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If only!!
We're using the Sena SMH10 headsets and have pretty happy with them, even with my wife's old Iphone 3GS. I'd just like to avoid the odd behavior that she's had with the SR.
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Yeah, that makes sense. I find the Scala performs better when moving. The noise cancellation is pretty good. I usually use the voice command to play a play list or an album, not really to take calls. Are you using an open face helmet or full face? Mine is a full face, which might be the difference.
I'm hoping that once some official CM ROM or something else comes out, that this gets fixed. I can say that even though I like Droid better for everything else, the 3GS voice control worked really well.
We both use Modular Helmets (me a Shoei Multitec and her a Shark Evoline) so they are bit noisier than a standard full face. Neither of us are organized for things like play lists... that's what Shuffle All is for!!
Actually I have a Zumo 550 with XM and I control my tunes through the GPS. Unfortunately the Zumo doesn't do BT stereo...so I'm hardwired to it.
Oh and I just loaded her up with VtoG and Bluetooth Launch....so far it looks promising. At least she's not calling Phil anymore . It's going to be a few days until we field test it.
We both use Modular Helmets (me a Shoei Multitec and her a Shark Evoline) so they are bit noisier than a standard full face. Neither of us are organized for things like play lists... that's what Shuffle All is for!!
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I use a Fulmer modular. It's not terribly noisy, but then again the ventilation is horrible. I am not super organized about playlists, but I found that my iPod incremented playcount only when a song ended. I travel a lot for business, so on the plane I would shuffle all songs and then skip ones I didn't like. I then built a smart playlist in iTunes where all songs with a playcount >1 where in it.
I'll have to do a field test at some point, but it's damn cold right now. It might be high 40's by Friday, so I might get out.
BTW - I did find the the Scala's A2DP play/pause function works well with the stock music player and winamp, even when locked. I can probably live with setting music on before leaving and just using the controls if I want to stop it.
I have considered wiring in my Sirius radio, but that's one of many projects I am working on
This seemed to only recently have come up.. but the handset microphone does not pick up sound nearly as well. It is maybe 1/10th the amplitutde. I've tested phone calls to myself (to GVoice headphones, other phones, etc.) and the speaker mic works great. When you take it off speaker mode it barely picks up sound at all.
When I use Evernote voice note recorder or a simply voice recorder I get similar results of extremely attenuated sound.
I do not _believe it is a CM10/custom ROM issue as this new behavior seems to have only started recently (past 2 days?) and was running the same stable ROM the whole time. I haven't yet isolated, but it could be a bluetooth problem (doubtful) - as I recently paired with two devices sometime in the past 3 days, or maybe some App has taken control over the amplification of the handset microphone.. but I install/uninstall so many apps to test throughout any given day this would be hard to isolate.
Has anyone had this issue before??
I'll go ahead and reset to a clean ROM, stock ROM, etc. and see what results I get, but I wanted to post a Q first to see if anyone ran into the same issue. Thanks in advance!
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I have posted a similar post in the CRV Owners forum, but I thought this forum would make more sense since it's filled with a bunch of hardware-hacking programmers!
The interface between my car and my phone (LG G2 Lollipop stock) is abysmal. I have seen a number of posts on the web about this issue with modern cars, but no real solutions. The following is a list of what I would like the interface to be between the phone and car. Then at the end of the email I'll flame a little about the "why"s.
GIve me a button to allow me to talk to my phone directly without the HondaLink getting in the way. There was a similar issue with a Volkswagon and a solution using Tasker to intercept the call. That solution doesn't work with my Honda and is a kludge.
Always have the phone interrupt the radio (whether it's a call or audio, e.g. Google maps navigation). For me, the information coming from the phone will always be more important than the music or talk show on the radio.
Mirror the phone screen onto the car screen when I'm driving (so I can see my map when I need to)
When I receive a call, let the phone do the talking (the phone can speak the caller's name to me and can send the caller's name over the bluetooth connection) and let me hit a button to answer it.
Has anyone successfully hacked into the firmware/software in the CV-R to fix these issues? Is it possible? At this point, based on my research, I see no other option. If there is another option that doesn't involve replacing the system or "just dealing with it," I'd love to hear it.
The "why"s:
My phone is custimizable, has all of my contacts, recognizes my voice, has GPS, accurate and up-to-date maps, and does everything that I need a phone and navigation system to do. The Honda solution tries to duplicate all of that functionality and does it very poorly. As one user wrote last year, my $50 bluetooth headset can listen to my phone and pipe in navigation directions and let me know when I get a call. It is a joke that an expensive car can't even get that part right. The fact that I can't put my phone screen on the car screen while I'm driving is idiotic. Now I've got to find some way to hold my phone up for navigation. I don't want this post to degenerate into a series of posts and counter-posts on whether drivers can handle the increased cognitive demand. I've been driving long enough to see that the majority of drivers are not paying any attention at all to the road anyway and no one seems to care.
The hardware in the CR-V seems to be capable of doing the things that I have listed above. So, if the Honda programmers can't get it the way I want it, the only solution is to take the programming away from them and do it ourselves. Has anyone done this yet?
Thank you in advance for your help.