[Q] Using Samsung Note II charger - Samsung Galaxy R i9103

Hi guys,
My friend recently got a Note II. It comes bundled with official Samsung charger with output capacity of 5V ~2A. Just wanted to ask if it is safe to charge our phone using the high capacity charger?
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emanoj.i9103 said:
Hi guys,
My friend recently got a Note II. It comes bundled with official Samsung charger with output capacity of 5V ~2A. Just wanted to ask if it is safe to charge our phone using the high capacity charger?
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not sure but i would prefer you not to use it.
the higher current output would surely decrease he battery life.
your touchscreen might get messed up while charging (if that happens then surely don't do it)
and in worst case, the battery might blast...

I use an HTC charger (because of the very good and practical structure of usb cable and charger) the output of which is 5V and 1A compared to Samsung's 0.7A. Normally it will not brick your phone and it'll even charge faster because of the higher amount of electricity delivered through the cable. By the definition of performance (which is the energy delivered in a unit of time), you see that the higher the electric current is, the higher the performance is. I'm sure that the battery and device will heat up. So all in all, you can try it as the voltage output is the same, but be aware! And keep an eye on the temperature!
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Adam77Root said:
I use an HTC charger (because of the very good and practical structure of usb cable and charger) the output of which is 5V and 1A compared to Samsung's 0.7A. Normally it will not brick your phone and it'll even charge faster because of the higher amount of electricity delivered through the cable. By the definition of performance (which is the energy delivered in a unit of time), you see that the higher the electric current is, the higher the performance is. I'm sure that the battery and device will heat up. So all in all, you can try it as the voltage output is the same, but be aware! And keep an eye on the temperature!
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That is one hell of an analysis!:good:

Thanks a lot Adam. I'll try charging with an eye on temp.
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Lols.. I m surrounding with Sony, LG, HTC & my own Note 2 handset. but I usually charged from everybody's charger. But yes Adam did lots of research & as he said when I charge my mobile using Note 2 charger, it get charged fast then R's one. so, thinking to keep only Note 2 charger now.

Adam77Root said:
I use an HTC charger (because of the very good and practical structure of usb cable and charger) the output of which is 5V and 1A compared to Samsung's 0.7A. Normally it will not brick your phone and it'll even charge faster because of the higher amount of electricity delivered through the cable. By the definition of performance (which is the energy delivered in a unit of time), you see that the higher the electric current is, the higher the performance is. I'm sure that the battery and device will heat up. So all in all, you can try it as the voltage output is the same, but be aware! And keep an eye on the temperature!
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Are you a student of electronics / related branch by any chance ?

Woh Science ki taraf se hai...
Translation: He's from the science side...
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'cooleagle' said:
Are you a student of electronics / related branch by any chance ?
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Here goes my observations, I used Note II charger to charge R. It does charge faster than the stock charger. Also, as adam said, phone got little heated up too.
Offtopic: I did my bachelors in electronics. I asked the question coz I didn't bother to know about hardware internals and wanted to know if there's some overcharge protection built in...
Thanked you for the thought about electronics. Cheers!
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No, I go to a class which specialises in maths and physics. I'm interested in electronics and do researches mainly in free time. It's one of the best parts of physics for me.
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Does the battery performance vary by using different chargers?

Does the battery performance vary when charged the phone with usb cable, or wall charger provided for galaxy r or some other samsung charger?
I noticed that when I charge through usb cable, it takes long time to charge and the phone discharges soon.
I used another charger and it charges sooner and gives more backup.
With galaxy R's wall mount charger it gives 12-13 hours on data network.
Is this a normal behaviour??
One more thing i wanna know is when does the "on battery" statistics gets reset? Is it only after 100% charge?
Buddy as i have experienced yes.
The voltage provided by the chargers matters i think.
Correct voltage at a consistent level is a must for any device
The non branded chargers at times made my touchsreen unresponsive too.
And charging from a usb cable makes my battery vanish faster.
i think any high end phone charger supplied by samsung should do well or equal to that given with our device.
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I think, Adam will explain it better coz he is doing something(i have forgotten) in electric science.
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Adam has already explained this in one of the threads...plz use search.

Need good charger....

Guys can someone tell me a good charger for my i9000. My original charger was bricked and now im using chines charger but it get lot of time to charge...
If someone help me i definitely HIT THANKS....
Buy an original charger.
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You just need one with a higher output current. I forgot what current the OEM one has, but you want one that has an equal or higher current output. Don't worry about overcharging your phone. It has a chip that limits the maximum current it can receive.
Hello,
the caracteristic of original are: 5V - 0.7A
But some china's power supply marked 1A rely deliver less...
If you can buy an original!
snapper.fishes said:
You just need one with a higher output current. I forgot what current the OEM one has, but you want one that has an equal or higher current output. Don't worry about overcharging your phone. It has a chip that limits the maximum current it can receive.
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Is this true? im afraid of charging my phone with 500mA charger?
So can i charge it with 500mA?
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higgins91 said:
Hello,
the caracteristic of original are: 5V - 0.7A
But some china's power supply marked 1A rely deliver less...
If you can buy an original!
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Yeah, if you buy a no-name Chinese USB supply then you either get your phone plugged straight into the mains or the circuits and components of nightmares.
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dhurk said:
Is this true? im afraid of charging my phone with 500mA charger?
So can i charge it with 500mA?
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As far as safety, current doesn't matter. At 500mA you'll be charging pretty slowly though.
i use 2A charger from TomTom and working fine even with working GPS navigation and still can charge to 100%.

3 amp charger.

I guess you could consider a aftermarket charger a accessory....... so ive seen on here that every one is pretty satisfied with the 2amp charging speed on our phones, I had a 3amp charger (lost it) that I tried to charge my gs3 on and the battery got really hot. I wonder if a 3amp usp port would charge the gs4 faster?? Or just be a wast of money?
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MattZ71 said:
I guess you could consider a aftermarket charger a accessory....... so ive seen on here that every one is pretty satisfied with the 2amp charging speed on our phones, I had a 3amp charger (lost it) that I tried to charge my gs3 on and the battery got really hot. I wonder if a 3amp usp port would charge the gs4 faster?? Or just be a wast of money?
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Imo its a waste of money... I personally am still going to use my 850mA chargers in most cases, but Ill keep my 2amp nearby in case I need a quick 20% mid day
MattZ71 said:
I guess you could consider a aftermarket charger a accessory....... so ive seen on here that every one is pretty satisfied with the 2amp charging speed on our phones, I had a 3amp charger (lost it) that I tried to charge my gs3 on and the battery got really hot. I wonder if a 3amp usp port would charge the gs4 faster?? Or just be a wast of money?
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S4 has a hardware limitation on charging current, right now it won't go above 1100mah while charging which is 1.1a, perhaps in future with kernel development we'll be able to raise the charging current but for now purchasing a charger above 2a would be completely useless.
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I mean most of the charging I do for my phone is when im asleep
Thanks for the replys. The information I needed.
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Nasty_z said:
S4 has a hardware limitation on charging current, right now it won't go above 1100mah while charging which is 1.1a, perhaps in future with kernel development we'll be able to raise the charging current but for now purchasing a charger above 2a would be completely useless.
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On this point what you need to realize is that the usb cable loses a bunch of the power on the way... so like, a 3 foot cable might deliver most of the power to the phone ... a 10foot cable might only deliver 66% of it... so really a 2amp charger is whatthe s4 needed but going above it is kind of useless
The S4 actually goes to 1,910a when charging, I've checked with and app (galaxy charging current) that's why it charges so fast
Mine shows the same thing
duykhang524 said:
The S4 actually goes to 1,910a when charging, I've checked with and app (galaxy charging current) that's why it charges so fast
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Do the lights dim everywhere in your house?
Oh and guys/gals, you cannot get around Ohm's law. 2A at 5V is 10Watts. You can use a 10A (50W) PSU but your phone will only use what it's designed to charge at unless you increase the voltage which I don't recommend unless you like to smell burned electronics.
Larger power supplies do have an advantage, however. You can charge multiple devices at the same time, i.e. a tablet, phone, spare battery, all at once. Good to prepare for a storm like we had last night here.
duykhang524 said:
The S4 actually goes to 1,910a when charging, I've checked with and app (galaxy charging current) that's why it charges so fast
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Are you guys serious? I have the original charger from Samsung, mine charges at 1100 according to the same app
Edit: uh whoops..
Just checked, it says 1900 - sorry for the confusion
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cpufrost said:
Do the lights dim everywhere in your house?
Oh and guys/gals, you cannot get around Ohm's law. 2A at 5V is 10Watts. You can use a 10A (50W) PSU but your phone will only use what it's designed to charge at unless you increase the voltage which I don't recommend unless you like to smell burned electronics.
Larger power supplies do have an advantage, however. You can charge multiple devices at the same time, i.e. a tablet, phone, spare battery, all at once. Good to prepare for a storm like we had last night here.
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10w is not a lot btw... My laptop pulls 60w on load and a hair dryer is 1000w... I mean't 1.9A sry for the confusion in french we use "," for the decimals in numbers
Nasty_z said:
Are you guys serious? I have the original charger from Samsung, mine charges at 1100 according to the same app
Edit: uh whoops..
Just checked, it says 1900 - sorry for the confusion
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1900 here for me as well, USB cords can also limit the current supplied, can only get this rate on a 6' (or less) my 10' and 15' each drop down quite a bit
duykhang524 said:
10w is not a lot btw... My laptop pulls 60w on load and a hair dryer is 1000w... I mean't 1.9A sry for the confusion in french we use "," for the decimals in numbers
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Haha yes I figured, just being sarcastic, no harm meant.
I will add using this app I find interesting results of cable length vs. mA delivered. If you want to charge fast use a shorter cord.
I may connect it to a bench supply and see how it reacts to a gentle overvolt, say 5.5V. This could be what's needed to compensate for a longer cable, i.e. getting ~2A with a ten foot cable!
cpufrost said:
Haha yes I figured, just being sarcastic, no harm meant.
I will add using this app I find interesting results of cable length vs. mA delivered. If you want to charge fast use a shorter cord.
I may connect it to a bench supply and see how it reacts to a gentle overvolt, say 5.5V. This could be what's needed to compensate for a longer cable, i.e. getting ~2A with a ten foot cable!
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Since the S4 is using QuickCharge from Qualcomm, I wonder if a generic 2A charger would affect charging time. http://www.anandtech.com/show/6914/samsung-galaxy-s-4-review/2
duykhang524 said:
Since the S4 is using QuickCharge from Qualcomm, I wonder if a generic 2A charger would affect charging time.
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I'm guessing that this only applies to the GT-I9505?
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guywhoeatsjello said:
I'm guessing that this only applies to the GT-I9505?
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Yea
datrumole said:
1900 here for me as well, USB cords can also limit the current supplied, can only get this rate on a 6' (or less) my 10' and 15' each drop down quite a bit
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Just a thought but what about a 10ft+ cord with a 3 amp charger? I wonder if the 3 amp will bring up the charging?
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cpufrost said:
Do the lights dim everywhere in your house?
Oh and guys/gals, you cannot get around Ohm's law. 2A at 5V is 10Watts. You can use a 10A (50W) PSU but your phone will only use what it's designed to charge at unless you increase the voltage which I don't recommend unless you like to smell burned electronics.
Larger power supplies do have an advantage, however. You can charge multiple devices at the same time, i.e. a tablet, phone, spare battery, all at once. Good to prepare for a storm like we had last night here.
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The currents which we're discussing when charging apply from the phone to the battery which subsequently uses the battery voltage as a charging indicator. Those 1.9A only happen at low battery percentages with voltages around 3.6V or lower, with raising voltage the current is limited. This is basically what QC quickcharge is. I don't really see the gimmick in it, as such a logic could be emulated in software on any phone.

Charging using 2A charger?

I have note2 right now which have to go. But I'll keep my office charger which is 2A.
Can I safely use it to charge n5?
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Using chargers with a high power (A) is no problem, the phone will not "take" more than it needs.
Sorry for the poor english ^^
The issue is if charging IC can handle 2A current or not. I dying wanna fry it lol
I would think it should not be an issue while 2A ICs are widely used in our days, but "better be safe then sorry".
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I charge mine with my xz charger 1.5a no problem
The charging block that comes with the Nexus 5 is 5.0 volt, 1.2 amp.
Jbondop said:
I charge mine with my xz charger 1.5a no problem
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While AFAIK there's no 1.5A ICs, than its 99% safe to say they using 2A nominal IC.
Thanks guys
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If using a different charger was a problem they would have made the connection something other than micro USB.
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Not really. Charging current depends on IC installed, not the connector itself.
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From what I understand, you could use a 10A charger and still be fine. The handset will not take any more than it needs. Basically, the charger doesn't push current, the phone pulls it.
TopherBarnett said:
From what I understand, you could use a 10A charger and still be fine. The handset will not take any more than it needs. Basically, the charger doesn't push current, the phone pulls it.
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Thats correct and nothing else. No way to destroy a phone with too much A because it just takes as much it needs. The 2A on an charger is just the maximum power output. It is physical impossible to PUSH the ampere in the device.

How much over 5v. can the nexus 5 take

Moved from general sorry
I just bought a Anker 24W / 4.8A Dual-Port Car Charger. I bought this to replace a cheap $2 charger that I did not want to use on my nexus 5
I just tested the anker charger and it puts out 5.24v-5.29v. I know that does not sound like much but all my other chargers AC wallwarts, and even the cheap $2 car charger all put out 4.95v-5.02v.
Should I go a head and use this anker car charger or should I return it? Thanks.
That's just how much the charge puts out. The phone may not accept that much input.
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Typically there is a boost/buck or other relatively efficient voltage regulator in the phones that manages the battery charging, so the 5% "over-voltage" that you are seeing shouldn't be an issue.
I'm guessing you measured that with no load -- most wall-warts run a little high without load, and then a little low at full load, so they can claim good regulation (+/-5%, for example) and a high current capacity. The change is due to internal resistance of the supply, something that you can compensate for, but can't ever get rid of.
LZLandingZone said:
That's just how much the charge puts out. The phone may not accept that much input.
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Only when talking current. Voltage is completely different.
jeffsf said:
Typically there is a boost/buck or other relatively efficient voltage regulator in the phones that manages the battery charging, so the 5% "over-voltage" that you are seeing shouldn't be an issue.
I'm guessing you measured that with no load -- most wall-warts run a little high without load, and then a little low at full load, so they can claim good regulation (+/-5%, for example) and a high current capacity. The change is due to internal resistance of the supply, something that you can compensate for, but can't ever get rid of.
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Thanks,
No I measured with a load. I have a voltage current usb meter.
http://dx.com/p/usb-av-usb-power-current-voltage-tester-translucent-blue-silver-235090#.Uu2NRXddWLc
I just did another test. This time with my phone almost at 95% full. I got 5.33v while sucking down 332mha.
Im sending it back. I tested every charger brick and several other devices in my home. nothing came even remotely close to 5.3v
USB specs are 5.0v +-0.25% so I should see no more then 5.25v.

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