Surface in Retail Stores - Microsoft Surface

I was at best buy today during my lunch break and was playing with the new Windows PC.
A girl about 14 or 15 was asking the associate about the surface. She did not know the name
but was able to describe the commercials, she seemed really excited about it.
The associate told her that they were not sold in retail and had to be ordered from Microsoft.
The girls mom stepped in and said never mind we will just get an ipad.
I realize Microsoft is selling out online but without a retail presence they are going to have a hard time.
There ad had this girl excited enough to want one over the ipad yet was relegated to getting an ipad
because you cannot go to a store to use and buy one.
Hopefully Microsoft gets the surface into stores quickly as I really want this system to be successful and drive
developer support for RT.

Surface is available in Microsoft retail stores (click for directory).
I believe you will see them show up in Best Buy and others stores probably in the December timeframe. My guess is also though that MS is treading carefully not to compete too heavily with Samsung and HTC, who already have a strong presence at these big box retailers.

mk1151 said:
Surface is available in Microsoft retail stores (click for directory).
I believe you will see them show up in Best Buy and others stores probably in the December timeframe. My guess is also though that MS is treading carefully not to compete too heavily with Samsung and HTC, who already have a strong presence at these big box retailers.
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Neither had a tablet in store.
There was some of the ultra thin laptops with touchscreen but not tablets.

ogar1978 said:
Neither had a tablet in store.
There was some of the ultra thin laptops with touchscreen but not tablets.
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Odd - the stores near me have Samsung and Acer Windows 8 tablets in the store to play with...

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GTab availability in the USA

Thanks to erron for pointing me to Staples!
SEARS still has limited stock, as of this writing. However, check your local Staples as it looks like they just got a shipment in:
http://www.staples.com/StaplesProdu...ctId=358070&catalogIdentifier=2&cmArea=SEARCH
My local store in PA has them in stock. I also heard a rumor that KMart and Radio Shack might be getting them next week, so you might want to keep an eye out.
have you heard if walmart would be getting these as well?
b00sted said:
have you heard if walmart would be getting these as well?
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Have not heard anything in regards to WalMart. You'd think they'd be jumping on the bandwagon for the holidays, but nothing (yet). Maybe they'll surprise us, next week.
i need a place I have a credit card for to get it, we had a baby and cant budget out one lol. unless someone wants a mini 9 instead of their tab *hint* *hint* lol
Is anywhere shipping these internationally yet? It is incredibly hard to ship one outside the US. If they make it too hard I will get the advent vega
How could these retailers sell these without a solid, out of the box software package?
Sure, the retailers maybe / are clueless, but Viewsonic is not (in regards to the software issue).
Boxes still have Flash symbol on them
Storage mode does not see the microsd
No market
A lot of games and apps are broken
Storage mapping
Mystery reboots with stock FW
Boot loops
Not coming out of sleep
Seriously, I like my G (not with stock), but how does this device not fail on epic levels, since it fails "out of box"? Perhaps 95% of consumers will not be hanging around XDA- will not have a clue.
staples.com also carrying the gtablet
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Available online for shipping
Ordered one online Monday night and received last night.
rushless said:
How could these retailers sell these without a solid, out of the box software package?
Sure, the retailers maybe / are clueless, but Viewsonic is not (in regards to the software issue).
Boxes still have Flash symbol on them
Storage mode does not see the microsd
No market
A lot of games and apps are broken
Storage mapping
Mystery reboots with stock FW
Boot loops
Not coming out of sleep
Seriously, I like my G (not with stock), but how does this device not fail on epic levels, since it fails "out of box"? Perhaps 95% of consumers will not be hanging around XDA- will not have a clue.
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I don't know. I ended up returning mine because of the bad screen, but there are certainly a ton of other problems too out of the box. The return rate for these things must be off the charts.
New Info from Viewsonic s gtablet site
App Store
Please be advised that a software update is now available that provides access to an Apps Store directly from your G Tablet. Owners of the G Tablet will receive an automatic notice of the new software upgrade. Users can then simply click on the Apps Store icon from their G Tablet to gain access to 1,000's of leading Android apps. (Please note that the automatic notification requires that the G Tablet has WiFi Internet access upon power-on.)
Adobe Flash Support
The Viewsonic G Tablet hardware and firmware provides full support for the Adobe Flash Player built into the unit. At the time that the G Tablet was manufactured, the Adobe Player application was not available for this product. We anticipate that a version of the Adobe Flash Player Application will be available by December 19, 2010. Owners of the G Tablet will receive an automatic notice that the plug-in is available for download to further expand their web access and entertainment. (Please note that the automatic notification requires that the G Tablet has WiFi Internet access upon power-on.)
I just picked one up at Staples--I asked, and a manager said they had just come in on the truck last night and they were ready to be put out front yet. I mentioned how the Staples web site had said that they were in stock at this particular store, and the manager seemed to take pity, disappeared for a while, and came back with one. (Had to check me out herself, though.)
Office Depot has the Gtablet now as well. The have a working demo of the G and the Archos 7 (not 70). They are selling them now.
So far:
Kmart
Office Depot
Sears
Staples
BTW, the Viewsonic site was wrong and is one reason they pulled the information from their site. No Flash in the update.
rushless said:
Office Depot has the Gtablet now as well. The have a working demo of the G and the Archos 7 (not 70). They are selling them now.
So far:
Kmart
Office Depot
Sears
Staples
BTW, the Viewsonic site was wrong and is one reason they pulled the information from their site. No Flash in the update.
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they had it in stock at staples, but the manager wouldn't sell me one, claiming that it was a black friday item.
edit: purchased one online with free ship to store. $30 off $150 coupon i bought off ebay worked. it says it will arrive by wednesday, which is sooner than black friday! at $400 - $30 = $370, which appears to be the cheapest price i've seen for it. the only comparable one is $380 at sears on black friday with the free case.
Which store has the best return policy?
Well, I'll have to consider picking up a g tablet, as it seems the tablet is much more usable with the TNT lite 2.0 rom..
So, the next question is, where should I purchase it from? I want to give it a good try for a couple weeks before settling on keeping it. While I understand the unit should easily be able to be returned due to the fact that it's "defective" in some ways, I'd prefer just not having to deal with a pita manager worst case. So, do any stores that are selling it offer easy returns? Sears seems like a "no," but Staples seems to let you return the device used/opened, if you're not satisfied with the purchase. Anyone else know about kmart/etc?
Staples closest to me had 3 when I called them on Saturday to see if they had a REAL functional demo unit and not a mockup like Sears had. They did and also told me that they had 3 in stock. (Seems that the Staples stores all semed to have gotten a whopping 3 of them.)
Sears say 9-10d or 12-15d for stock. (I guess that the busier stores get first dibs on stock, surprisingly the one really close to me and the one just a bit further are both on the shorter time to restock. I felt that the close Sears was never very busy)
I never bothered going over to Staples until Monday morning, since I was sure that I would just pick one up even if I felt it to be grossly overpriced. I still feel that this is overpriced esp. when both Sears and Staples bracketed the gTab display with MUCH cheaper (Atom) netbooks ffs! (They had 2 left in stock on monday, and then 1 of course, after I purchased mine.)
All said and done thought, this is the tablet that I've liked the best from the get go and I'm still only using the stock fw, and 11/22 update now. Web browsing is just so much better with this tablet and the virt kb more responsive such that I can use forums via browser and actually enter messages non-painfully although a bit slowly. (Buhbye tapatalk...)
The PDF version of the manual is kind of funny loads of Engrish, which is kind of surprising considering that Pandigital's wasn't too bad actually while VS' is more like Augen's...
Anybody have any experience with searsoutlet.com? I found one thats over 200 miles away from NYC and for some reason they refuse to ship.
NewbTrader said:
Well, I'll have to consider picking up a g tablet, as it seems the tablet is much more usable with the TNT lite 2.0 rom..
So, the next question is, where should I purchase it from? I want to give it a good try for a couple weeks before settling on keeping it. While I understand the unit should easily be able to be returned due to the fact that it's "defective" in some ways, I'd prefer just not having to deal with a pita manager worst case. So, do any stores that are selling it offer easy returns? Sears seems like a "no," but Staples seems to let you return the device used/opened, if you're not satisfied with the purchase. Anyone else know about kmart/etc?
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SEARS can be bad - 30 days but only for hardware defects, although I heard that they might extend that to 60 days during the holidays. For Staples, it's 14 days for tech items and seems pretty flexible.
KMart might be the best of the lot at 90 days, but again you should ask before purchasing as they might have exceptions.
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Anybody have any experience with searsoutlet.com? I found one thats over 200 miles away from NYC and for some reason they refuse to ship.
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I purchased my GTab from the Outlet - they don't ship because these are clearance / closeout items that are in that specific store. The GTabs are customer returns to they should be complete but expect some possible cosmetic defects as a used item.
pkjai1 said:
Anybody have any experience with searsoutlet.com? I found one thats over 200 miles away from NYC and for some reason they refuse to ship.
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Just check daily, in a few weeks I bet every store in the nation will have a pile of them, then we can snap 'em up.
Im looking to import one of these and was hoping to take advantage of the Black Friday sales. I saw the Sears catalog, but then someone else said they dont have any stock?
I can use a mail forwarder to buy it for me and then ship it to me in Australia. Looks like Staples and Sears both have them online. Can anyone please confirm:
- Do Sears and Staples currently have these in stock for quick shipping?
- Is it worth waiting for 'black friday' to buy one?

Holy crap! $130 G Tablets?

I don't know about this seller specifically, but found this looking for Gtab stuff at Aliexpress. I also don't fully understand their "escrow" process, but it looks like they don't release the funds to him until you confirm delivery. His lack of feedback bothers me some.
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Less than $300 for a lot of two is an amzingly great deal, I just wish I had an extra $300 laying around. Hell, if I had a few grand I would probably buy him out and undersell everybody on ebay with them!
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I don't know about this seller specifically, but found this looking for Gtab stuff at Aliexpress. I also don't fully understand their "escrow" process, but it looks like they don't release the funds to him until you confirm delivery. His lack of feedback bothers me some.
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/409421093-Viewsonic-G-Tablet-with-10-Multi-Touch-LCD-Screen-Android-OS-2-2-wholesalers.html
Less than $300 for a lot of two is an amzingly great deal, I just wish I had an extra $300 laying around. Hell, if I had a few grand I would probably buy him out and undersell everybody on ebay with them!
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Yea but if you look BEFORE he 'cut n paste' the Viewsonic Page he has this...
Screen Size:
10"
Products Status:
Stock
Graphics Card Type:
Integrated Card
Processor Type:
Intel Atom
Processor Brand:
Intel
Type:
Netbook,Tablet PC,UMPC
Hard Drive Capacity:
120GB
Memory Capacity:
512MB
Seems awfully fishy??? Not to mention this seller has NO feedback from what I could find...
It looks like you need to buy two or more to get this pricing.
Viewsonic G-Tablet with 10" Multi-Touch LCD Screen, Android OS 2.2
Unit Price:US $242.11 - 263.16 / lot
2 pieces / lot, $121.06 - 131.58 / piece
Min. Order: 1lot .
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Yea but if you look BEFORE he 'cut n paste' the Viewsonic Page he has this...
Screen Size:
10"
Products Status:
Stock
Graphics Card Type:
Integrated Card
Processor Type:
Intel Atom
Processor Brand:
Intel
Type:
Netbook,Tablet PC,UMPC
Hard Drive Capacity:
120GB
Memory Capacity:
512MB
Seems awfully fishy??? Not to mention this seller has NO feedback from what I could find...
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Yeah, exactly why I hesitate. It does show some purchases though, so I will be monitoring it for feedback from them.
I try to stay away from aliexpress. Heard too many horror stories of people never getting their items, or what they received was not what the ordered, or it just broken.
On top of that the specs advertised are wrong. A good indication to stay away from a seller. Usually it means the seller has no idea what the product they are selling is. You could wind up with a Viewpad.
Customs
Are these things going to get stuck at customs? IT2STEVE, you have some importing experience (docks/cases/adapters)... how easy/painful is the process? And what should we expect to pay in taxes/duty/fees?
There is no feedback, but there is a large order history, so maybe something will pop up there soon. The order screen does say that this store is 7.8% above average for orders completed (tho it doesn't say what the average is!)
As for the specs... the right specs are in the article below the summary. That sort of thing happens on EBay all the time. He probably posted the other tablet first (the Intel Atom/Win7 one in his store) then started from that ad to make the GTab one.
this is very good, that would be true
I do not believe
buy, then we Tell
1. "No feedback received for this supplier over the past 6 months"
2. "AliExpress Supplier Since: 05 Jan 2011"
Imho if it sounds too good to be true.... it is.
I can afford to risk buying these, but is it too much of a risk? I wouldn't mind getting atom based tablets, because it would be easier to then install a real OS, like Ubuntu. I've been waiting for one to turn up at a local Sears Oulet store. My g-tablet runs great with the stock + updates, so I would use a used one to experiment with.
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Imho if it sounds too good to be true.... it is.
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I was thinking the same thing. He doesn't have any feedback yet, maybe because he just joined AliExpress on January 5th. I found these comments about the seller. Not too good:
http://ask.alibaba.com/Q/802132883-...PRESS-as-SIMON-HAN-without-me-responding.html
I want to pull the trigger on this, but I'm not a dumb-ass. I need to drink some beer first, then I will become a dumb-ass, and may purchase them!
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I can afford to risk buying these, but is it too much of a risk? I wouldn't mind getting atom based tablets, because it would be easier to then install a real OS, like Ubuntu. I've been waiting for one to turn up at a local Sears Oulet store. My g-tablet runs great with the stock + updates, so I would use a used one to experiment with.
I was thinking the same thing. He doesn't have any feedback yet, maybe because he just joined AliExpress on January 5th. I found these comments about the seller. Not too good:
http://ask.alibaba.com/Q/802132883-...PRESS-as-SIMON-HAN-without-me-responding.html
I want to pull the trigger on this, but I'm not a dumb-ass. I need to drink some beer first, then I will become a dumb-ass, and may purchase them!
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LOL, Scotch for me - but I would do it right now if I had the extra simoleons. I've wasted larger amounts of cash on riskier things!
Those reviews were not good! I'll stay away from this one... or at least I won't be first
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LOL, Scotch for me - but I would do it right now if I had the extra simoleons. I've wasted larger amounts of cash on riskier things!
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Well, I do have a bottle of this:
http://www.greatlakesdistillery.com/pumpkin.htm
Don't be fooled by the name. It is a whiskey!
There's no way this is legit. The same seller is also selling a 9.7" atom tablet with a 16Gb SSD and 3G with Windows 7/ Windows XP / Linux (ALL THREE INSTALLED!) on it for $115 for each tablet when you buy two.
Yeah right!!!!! LOL.
http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/...5-Win7-WIFI-3G-MID-Tablet-PC.html#tabbed-pane
Please don't get yourself scammed. Nobody is going to be able to offer a new G Tab for less than $300.
The parts cost for a G Tablet is probably about $170 (Galaxy Tab was about $205 in estimated parts cost according to the breakdowns I've seen, you can back into costs for a G Tablet pretty easily), assembled and packaged, figure $180-$190 for a G Tablet. And companies have shipping, overhead, fixed costs, and returns to cover.
I'm guessing that in 1000 unit lots, Sears et. al. paid something like $250 per unit, and they dumped the returns at slightly over cost (maybe even at their cost?) from Sears outlet when they were selling returned units for $279.
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Please don't get yourself scammed. Nobody is going to be able to offer a new G Tab for less than $300.
The parts cost for a G Tablet is probably about $170 (Galaxy Tab was about $205 in estimated parts cost according to the breakdowns I've seen, you can back into costs for a G Tablet pretty easily), assembled and packaged, figure $180-$190 for a G Tablet. And companies have shipping, overhead, fixed costs, and returns to cover.
I'm guessing that in 1000 unit lots, Sears et. al. paid something like $250 per unit, and they dumped the returns at slightly over cost (maybe even at their cost?) from Sears outlet when they were selling returned units for $279.
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You are forgetting that the manufacturing is in China. Different processes and different laws governing this. I used to be a purchasing agent for IBM and bought many millions of dollars worth of parts for manufacturing so I am pretty confident that the Gtab could be had for well under $200US.
However, after a little more research - I now agree with ALL of the naysayers.
This guy is definitely a scammer and is not to be trusted.
doctorisin said:
Are these things going to get stuck at customs? IT2STEVE, you have some importing experience (docks/cases/adapters)... how easy/painful is the process? And what should we expect to pay in taxes/duty/fees?
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the VERY FIRST dock and first lot I ordered took a while. I have it going with a vendor now that it 'seems' I'm getting things about three days after he ships. For the most part when I'm getting a tracking number it's being delivered on time. I've even seen the 'notice' where customs has opened and inspected it.
I had my ZT-180 tablet seized by the local U.S.Customs office. It was seized because it did not have a sticker saying the wireless was FCC approved, and/or the proper documents regarding this. I had to come up with the forms and documents, AND pay a $100 fee.
The only reason I even considered this offer was because the g-tablet is marked as being FCC approved.
I just placed an order for 1 lot with aliexpress. Only way to tell if it is O.K. is to try, have fingers crossed.
Wish you the best of luck Roy. Personally, I was about to order this G-TAB from aliexpress a week ago, but Thanks to God I stumbled upon this website . Have to be cautious from now on.
Secondly, I have seen Simon Hans other products (except the G-tab and Intel atom 10'' Tablet pc .. which are going awfully cheap), to be sold at their normal prices and with a good transaction history. I have also dropped an email to him but no reply yet. That said, Aliexpress is by far the most reliable chinese trade marketplace, better than Dhgate and globalsources.
Perhaps he's selling it off cheap when shackles pulled the G-TAB off their shelves due to early software issue or rejection issues and somehow VS sold their g-tabs to China due to rejection and to cover its break-up cost.
Anyways, I am more concerned that you and hope you get your G-TAB
Since they hold payment in escrow untill I"m in receipt of tablets not to concerned. Just disappointed that it did not work. But thats life, just wait for another good deal around the corner. If this turns out alright and I did not try I would be more disappointed in myself for missing it.
Roy

[sold] Selling my Viewsonic G tablet w/bag, $270

bought new last Christmas from Sears. I installed Vegan-tab immediately and liked it very much. but after the vacation i found it became less useful to me-- my daily life is either sitting at office or at home (or driving, of coz) and i have two desktops and two note books to use. It just sit there for nearly a month now. So I am considering selling it for some cash.
It'll come with original case and accessories, and a AmazonBasics bag I bought for it (AmazonBasics Netbook Bag with Handle, Fits 7- to 10-Inch Netbooks, iPad (Black) ). I'd sell it for $270 and you pay the shipping you choose. I'm in north DFW area and local pickup is also welcome. you can save the shipping cost.
I also sent out the rebate form for its dock and they cashed out my $10.5 check for "shipping and handling", but I do not know when they will ship it... If you buy my gtablet, I promise I will ship the dock to you for free (you still need to pay the shipping though) as soon as I receive it.
silly me. just noticed the subject and didn't notice the forum. had my hopes up for a good deal on a galaxy tablet/something w/ 3g data capabilities.
I see.. let me change the title to indicate it's a Viewsonic G tablet, not a Galaxy tab
Very interested...
Can you post up some pics and do you take Pay-Pal as form of payment?
i am interested, how much to sell to sydney, australia.
and could you post some piccies?
stellarchaser said:
bought new last Christmas from Sears. I installed Vegan-tab immediately and liked it very much. but after the vacation i found it became less useful to me-- my daily life is either sitting at office or at home (or driving, of coz) and i have two desktops and two note books to use. It just sit there for nearly a month now. So I am considering selling it for some cash.
It'll come with original case and accessories, and a AmazonBasics bag I bought for it (AmazonBasics Netbook Bag with Handle, Fits 7- to 10-Inch Netbooks, iPad (Black) ). I'd sell it for $270 and you pay the shipping you choose. I'm in north DFW area and local pickup is also welcome. you can save the shipping cost.
I also sent out the rebate form for its dock and they cashed out my $10.5 check for "shipping and handling", but I do not know when they will ship it... If you buy my gtablet, I promise I will ship the dock to you for free (you still need to pay the shipping though) as soon as I receive it.
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I too am in DFW and will take it if it's still available?
I'll take it.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
I'm seeing a few of these - is everyone jumping ship?
I'm keeping mine, no worries. If the GTAB forum eventually dissapears, the device will go to my wife. The old trickle down effect....
roebeet said:
I'm seeing a few of these - is everyone jumping ship?
I'm keeping mine, no worries. If the GTAB forum eventually dissapears, the device will go to my wife. The old trickle down effect....
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I think its more a case of everyone trying to get the most money for the Tab while its still hot. With all the new Tabs coming out soon they fear prices dropping and want max value. Thats my take anyway, I could be wrong.
Mine is going to my wife as well. I take it to work everyday and when I get home she runs to me to pry it out of my hands. I think she'd kill me if I ever sold it. And just to think, before I owned a Gtab she "didnt like touch screen devices". Go figure..........................
Yep, makes sense. It's actually why I sold my dev unit as I figured my original GTAB would eventually become the dev unit (which is exactly what happened).
roebeet said:
I'm seeing a few of these - is everyone jumping ship?
I'm keeping mine, no worries. If the GTAB forum eventually dissapears, the device will go to my wife. The old trickle down effect....
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Robeet,
Not everyone is jumping ship; I still have 2 of these and will keep them as long as possible. Based on the tablets I have seen that is scheduled to release I still think we have the best of the lot. It is not our fault that VS was damn short sighted in their approach to this tablet.
It annoys me greatly that they did not push the channel hard enough on this device and have the leadership needed to make this a true force in the Market. It further annoys me that they did not have accessories available nor did they have 3rd party accessory suppliers in the ready. This was poor market strategy at work; guess they missed that whole business 101 course while in college.
No... all of us are NOT jumping ship; this tablet honestly has the capabilities I was initially looking for in a Tablet. Once we have 3.0 on this thing personally I will be set no matter what other wiz-bang device comes out later!!!!
Just my 2 cents worth
I wouldn't say "I'm jumping ship". The hardware inside G-tablet is mostly in line with the mainstream of tablets this year, and now you know their prices... I think g-tablet still has very high performance/price ratio.
I'm selling it just because I found that a tablet is actually not so useful to me...when I got this tablet I was very excited, flashing custom Roms, trying all kinds of apps, etc. However after the vacation, I could not find much use of it... browsing web, watching video? I'd rather use my desktop with a 24" LCD and dedicated mouse/keyboard. Playing game? The casual games on tablet are not comparable with "real" games on my game PC and consoles IMHO. Reading novels? My kindle 3 is more comfortable with its E-ink display... I guess the real problem is I stay at home or office almost all the time. Tablet is more useful to an outdoor man.
Just my 2 cents
I'd still like to buy this.....
Have you sold it yet?
I'm still very interested. Let me know what you want to do to take care of the transaction...
roebeet said:
I'm seeing a few of these - is everyone jumping ship?
I'm keeping mine, no worries. If the GTAB forum eventually dissapears, the device will go to my wife. The old trickle down effect....
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I'm actually looking to buy 2 more for friends
My boss even introduced my GTab to our clients as " Superfast TnT-Lite OS" tablet!
It is understandable that there are many more tegra 2 tablets coming with better specs + screen. Most of them starting around $400.
Xoom wifi is only $539 at Sam Club (according to engagdet)
I guess that if we can find a screen replacement + honeycream soon, people would stick around for longer..

Anyone here in the tablet industry, your opinion?

Why do you think Viewsonic decided to put together a device with some of the best tablet hardwares out there and then put a crappy software interface on there? If a bunch of people online could put together a more stable and faster rom for free, why not a multi-million dollar industry?
I guess I'm wondering why these really big electronic companies decided to shoot themselves in the foot over and over.
Because they were first to market by about 9 months with a Tegra2 tablet. Everyone else (Motorola, Asus, etc) waited until nVidia had a stable SDK, before pushing their wares out, and even still, Motorola is the first to do it out of the big guys.
Viewsonic just made the mistake of going to Tap'N'Tap to get it done. They should have gone with a Tier 1 Android integrater, like Wind River (oddly enough, owned by Intel now). Wind River is all over this stuff and already has Tegra3 in their sights for early fall.
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Because they were first to market by about 9 months with a Tegra2 tablet. Everyone else (Motorola, Asus, etc) waited until nVidia had a stable SDK, before pushing their wares out, and even still, Motorola is the first to do it out of the big guys.
Viewsonic just made the mistake of going to Tap'N'Tap to get it done. They should have gone with a Tier 1 Android integrater, like Wind River (oddly enough, owned by Intel now). Wind River is all over this stuff and already has Tegra3 in their sights for early fall.
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I agree!! Tap'N'Tap can't even design a good UI for their website (it's not even a website, really it's just a landing page), why anyone would think Tap'N'Tap can design a more difficult UI is beyond me. Lol.
http://www.tapntap.com/
You also have to realize that it TRULY isn't even a Viewsonic product. I don't even know what their true involvement is (are they the one's 'in bed' with tap n tap?)
US Merchants is re-boxing the Malata product similar to how Dell, HP, Acer does thier PC's. I still don't know how Viewsonic got involved, did US Merchants just need a big name behind them. I did get a number to a Rep for Viewsonic that I looked up in LinkedIn and she used to work for US Merchants (or maybe the other way around).
i wish I knew how this partnership came about?
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I agree!! Tap'N'Tap can't even design a good UI for their website (it's not even a website, really it's just a landing page), why anyone would think Tap'N'Tap can design a more difficult UI is beyond me. Lol.
http://www.tapntap.com/
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Probably because Tap'N'Tap was the cheapest. Remember, to meet the price point, Viewsonic had to make some sacrifices. Look at the price of the Xoom and most of the other upcoming Tegra2 tablets. Viewsonic's price is HALF.
Plus, personally, I'd rather have the software be crap. Can change that and because of the awesome devs here, that's a reality.
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You also have to realize that it TRULY isn't even a Viewsonic product. I don't even know what their true involvement is (are they the one's 'in bed' with tap n tap?)
US Merchants is re-boxing the Malata product similar to how Dell, HP, Acer does thier PC's. I still don't know how Viewsonic got involved, did US Merchants just need a big name behind them. I did get a number to a Rep for Viewsonic that I looked up in LinkedIn and she used to work for US Merchants (or maybe the other way around).
i wish I knew how this partnership came about?
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Because Contract Manufacturing has now turned into Contract Engineer/Design AND Manufacturing. Most of the time, design is done in Taiwan, manufacturing in mainland China. It's been going on now for almost a decade (that I've personally seen). It's cheaper for Viewsonic and it's easier for a CMO to enter the US market that way. No one is going to buy a Malata product, but Viewsonic? Maybe. You'll see this a lot at Bestbuy, when name brand TVs look suspiciously like the no name brands.
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Because Contract Manufacturing has now turned into Contract Engineer/Design AND Manufacturing. Most of the time, design is done in Taiwan, manufacturing in mainland China. It's been going on now for almost a decade (that I've personally seen). It's cheaper for Viewsonic and it's easier for a CMO to enter the US market that way. No one is going to buy a Malata product, but Viewsonic? Maybe. You'll see this a lot at Bestbuy, when name brand TVs look suspiciously like the no name brands.
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Or no brand at all. I've seen quite a few of those in stores like best buy, office depot, etc. nowadays. They look and feel exactly like those made by the well known brands, but try to look for a stamp of the brand and you won't find any.
Speaking of which, is viewsonic a legit American brand or is it a company of 5 employees created just to slap an American sounding name on a Chinese product?
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Or no brand at all. I've seen quite a few of those in stores like best buy, office depot, etc. nowadays. They look and feel exactly like those made by the well known brands, but try to look for a stamp of the brand and you won't find any.
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Best Buy has moved from generic brands to their house brand (Insignia). I have an Insignia Plasma, that is a Samsung Plasma (I took it apart, it's all Samsung inside).
Speaking of which, is viewsonic a legit American brand or is it a company of 5 employees created just to slap an American sounding name on a Chinese product?
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Viewsonic still makes amazing displays (ironic with the crappy display on the G Tablet).
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Why do you think Viewsonic decided to put together a device with some of the best tablet hardwares out there and then put a crappy software interface on there? If a bunch of people online could put together a more stable and faster rom for free, why not a multi-million dollar industry?
I guess I'm wondering why these really big electronic companies decided to shoot themselves in the foot over and over.
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Most likely Viewsonic wanted to get the tablet on the market before Christmas to take advantage of the holiday shopping season - tablets were a hot commodity if you recall - and the state of the software was simply what was available at the time. Somebody had to make a call and they decided to ship.
Unfortunately that decision backfired on them because the software was not ready for prime time.

I thnk that surface deployments will pick up after black friday

I say this because BestBuy is offering the RT for only $199.99 that puts it on par with almost all the other budget tablets. I may get a couple for the family at that price...
buffalosolja42 said:
I say this because BestBuy is offering the RT for only $199.99 that puts it on par with almost all the other budget tablets. I may get a couple for the family at that price...
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...I bought the 64GB RT for that price; indeed the 32GB model is tempting, too (for family). I wonder, though, if fighting the Windows 8 fight is worth it just yet (for them). Heck I wonder if it is worth it for me!
Been looking for a time to get rid of my old TF101, I just wish that certain companies like amazon would give us the correct sync when reading and I think I would be good as well as access to our uploaded books like android. I also am waiting on one android app for handling pdfs and I am gone in a heartbeat.
Got 5 tablets from best buy and it is worth it so far. Loving it
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I say this because BestBuy is offering the RT for only $199.99 that puts it on par with almost all the other budget tablets. I may get a couple for the family at that price...
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I got one for the 199.99 on black Friday and love it. They sold out quick

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