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Is there a way to use the phone without a SIM card? I don't have LTE in my area, and I keep getting the "no SIM Error" so was thinking that the SIM was useless anyways.
On the stock ROM every time I get the SIM error, or if I remove the SIM card itself, I get no data on the phone at all. When I try to turn on Mobile Data it prompts me to insert the SIM.
On other CUSTOM or JB ROMs, I don't get the SIM error prompt but I simply get no data.
On older Sprint phones, I know you can go into the DEBUG menu to see that EVDO/3G was actually being authenticated, the handshake was negotiated, then connection type/speed/tower/hand-off status, etc. Is there such an option with Verizon phones? I'm wondering if Data is completely shut off without the SIM, or if the data connection is actually established on the network but simply blocked from being used?
PS - per recommendation I have tried using the PHONE INFO app to switch the option to NV only, but am still getting no data. Voice/Text work perfectly.
black7 said:
Is there a way to use the phone without a SIM card? I don't have LTE in my area, and I keep getting the "no SIM Error" so was thinking that the SIM was useless anyways.
On the stock ROM every time I get the SIM error, or if I remove the SIM card itself, I get no data on the phone at all. When I try to turn on Mobile Data it prompts me to insert the SIM.
On other CUSTOM or JB ROMs, I don't get the SIM error prompt but I simply get no data.
On older Sprint phones, I know you can go into the DEBUG menu to see that EVDO/3G was actually being authenticated, the handshake was negotiated, then connection type/speed/tower/hand-off status, etc. Is there such an option with Verizon phones? I'm wondering if Data is completely shut off without the SIM, or if the data connection is actually established on the network but simply blocked from being used?
PS - per recommendation I have tried using the PHONE INFO app to switch the option to NV only, but am still getting no data. Voice/Text work perfectly.
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ASFAIK, the SIM does 3g and 4g. WHY? because 3g on the gs3 is ehrdp and that also requires a handshake between 3g and lte. I believe it is like using 3g tech but with the pipeline size of lte... or thats as far as I've read into it.
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ASFAIK, the SIM does 3g and 4g. WHY? because 3g on the gs3 is ehrdp and that also requires a handshake between 3g and lte. I believe it is like using 3g tech but with the pipeline size of lte... or thats as far as I've read into it.
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Thanks for the info, xicewallx. I was afraid of that, however I've read of people flashing both Sprint and Verizon variants of the SGS3 to Boost, Straight Talk (CDMA), Verizon Pre-Paid which all I assume do not use LTE/SIM. I presume this means that the SGS3 can certainly use 3G without the need of the SIM card. I'm looking for a way to default to this on the SGS3 for us poor folk who do not have the luxury of LTE yet and have to deal with the SIM error until Verizon/Samsung fixes it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I was able to get to a debug screen using the IOTHiddenMenu option (through Any Cut) but it simply stated that EVDO was in "sleep state." I wasn't able to figure out how to get it to start a connection yet.
Go to the Verizon store and get a free SIM card? Why go through all of this trouble.
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TheBiles said:
Go to the Verizon store and get a free SIM card? Why go through all of this trouble.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Issue is that the phone is having the NO SIM error randomly. Have already tried a different SIM from Verizon (friend's account) but still have that same issue.
black7 said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Issue is that the phone is having the NO SIM error randomly. Have already tried a different SIM from Verizon (friend's account) but still have that same issue.
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So get a new phone? That one is obviously faulty. Go get a free replacement. You have to live with it for 2 years. I wouldn't want a faulty device for a week let alone 2 years.
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Are you in a poor signal area? Only time I've received the "No Sim" error was at my parents where the signal is crap. As for using it without the sim card, doubt that's possible since the sim is used for authentication if I'm not mistaken.
hello,
if i understand correctly, the sim card in the S3 is basically the same as all the previous world phones, meaning its just RUIM card. The MEID and IMEI are on the phone, the card it comes with is just basically a storage device in simple terms. can someone who has access to another verizon active S3 sim try putting the card into their phone and checking the IMEI that the phone reports? does swapping the cards change the IMEI in other words. I do not think it will, but interested to know for sure.
i just started playing with one of these, but i feel realy confident you can get non 4G services to work without a sim in it.
cheers,
disco
disco_y2k said:
hello,
if i understand correctly, the sim card in the S3 is basically the same as all the previous world phones, meaning its just RUIM card. The MEID and IMEI are on the phone, the card it comes with is just basically a storage device in simple terms. can someone who has access to another verizon active S3 sim try putting the card into their phone and checking the IMEI that the phone reports? does swapping the cards change the IMEI in other words. I do not think it will, but interested to know for sure.
i just started playing with one of these, but i feel realy confident you can get non 4G services to work without a sim in it.
cheers,
disco
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You have it just about backwords. The sim is the real identifier on vzw 4g devices. You can take a working authorized sim and use it to activate another 4g Verizon phone and it will activate under the phone number associated with the sim.
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thats interesting, S3 still has an MEID also doesnt it?
thanks for the info!
cheers,
disco
disco_y2k said:
thats interesting, S3 still has an MEID also doesnt it?
thanks for the info!
cheers,
disco
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There is still an ESN /MEID that the network uses to identify the phone for the CDMA side of the network. The process is all handled by the LTE SIM on LTE phones, though.
OP: You have a broken phone. The no-SIM error is not something that goes away. Take it to a store and get a new SIM and/or order a replacement.
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im gonna have to dig in some more i am still not convinced the card is not a ruim card. like the other sprint and verizon world fones the imea is in the fone im pretty sure, until you instroduce another networks actual gsm card. i still the card it comes with is a simple ruim that holds the login info and other data, etc, well you know what ruim is.
does anyone have a service manual or white papers on this one yet? i would love to read through them.
thanks again bro
cheers,
disco
I'm still looking for an answer to this if anyone has any suggestions. Any way to get 3G without a SIM card?
Did you ever get a new phone from Verizon? It seems like an issue with your phone, not the network.
I have been trying something similar along the way as I have been able to get rock solid data by switching to EvDo only using the Phone Info app.
I gave determined I am connecting to a US Cellular tower when I have solid data.
But while in EvDo only I cannot send or receive calls or texts.
I am looking for a way to enable calls and text while in EvDo only mode.
Not trying to highjack just thought this is somewhat related.
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Did you ever get a new phone from Verizon? It seems like an issue with your phone, not the network.
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New phone and new SIM from Verizon seems to have made the problem less apparent, but it still happens, especially when driving through areas where reception is a bit spotty. It's really become an issue as I rely on getting emails for business, especially while traveling, and I don't get notifications of new emails if I have no data service which I don't become aware of until I actually look at the phone. Missed a couple of important emails/meeting invites because of this already...
Brenardo said:
I have been trying something similar along the way as I have been able to get rock solid data by switching to EvDo only using the Phone Info app.
I gave determined I am connecting to a US Cellular tower when I have solid data.
But while in EvDo only I cannot send or receive calls or texts.
I am looking for a way to enable calls and text while in EvDo only mode.
Not trying to highjack just thought this is somewhat related.
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That would be fantastic if you come across something that will allow voice/text/EvDO(3G)! Have you made any headway on this? Would be glad to help in any way I can also to get this working.
black7 said:
I'm still looking for an answer to this if anyone has any suggestions. Any way to get 3G without a SIM card?
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I flashed a VZW GS3 to Sprint. 3G data is working fine w/o a SIM card. If I put a non activated VZW card, data doesn't work obviously.
The trick in getting this to work is to use QPST to configure Profile 0 and Profile 1. When flashing to Sprint or Boost, you must also load a Sprint PRL into the device using QPST.
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AlpineMan said:
I flashed a VZW GS3 to Sprint. 3G data is working fine w/o a SIM card. If I put a non activated VZW card, data doesn't work obviously.
The trick in getting this to work is to use QPST to configure Profile 0 and Profile 1. When flashing to Sprint or Boost, you must also load a Sprint PRL into the device using QPST.
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Choose nv only, cdma evdo in phone info and program nv items and flash prl.
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jclendineng said:
Choose nv only, cdma evdo in phone info and program nv items and flash prl.
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A little off subject but I how did you get it on sprint I'm trying to get mine on verizon prepaid and have it set to nv only. I must be missing somethin because my esn/meid all look right I get data but yet no calls
To begin with, I odin'd back to stock. After installing my apps, I rooted and backed up. I installed miui rom, but after running it for a few minutes, I totally lost service with vzw. I thought it might have been something I did, so I restored from my backup back to factory default. Still nothing.
So I went ahead and odin'd back to stock unrooted again. But somehow I still have no service. I can connect via wifi, but get nothing otherwise. Any idea's what I have done and how to fix it?
What does your imei say. If it's zero
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31051731
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fortunately or unfortunately, the imei is still there and correct.
When I go in and manually search for networks, it finds AT&T Cincinnati bell and t-mobile, just not Verizon. And since service iwith Verizon, I don't know what to do
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udrunner said:
When I go in and manually search for networks, it finds AT&T Cincinnati bell and t-mobile, just not Verizon. And since service iwith Verizon, I don't know what to do
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You changed your CDMA phone to GSM which is what is supported by MUI. Now it is up to you to get your device back to CDMA/LTE. We have no clue how to fix it.
I was afraid of that when I saw those networks come up. I'll keep searching for how to switch back.
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You changed your CDMA phone to GSM which is what is supported by MUI. Now it is up to you to get your device back to CDMA/LTE. We have no clue how to fix it.
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I finally found it. I got an app called phone info, and was able to switch back to cdma using it.
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I was running a total stock Jelly Bean OTA and last week lost the ability to get a 4G signal in a known strong 4G area.
For some stupid reason, I had tried running a *228 last week and am wondering if that caused the issue. I was also wondering if Verizon was somehow throttling me to 3G because of data usage (was up to around 10 gig for the month). I had been using FoxFi (PDANet+) probably for about half of that.
I called Verizon and they said I needed to do a factory reset. I decided that I wanted a backup of everything and took this opportunity to root and unlock my phone using open1your1eyes0 guide. Got everything backed up using Titanium Backup and went ahead and did factory reset. Of course, still no 4G! Called Verizon and they said they're going to send me a new SIM card.
What is the likelihood of this solving the problem? Is there way to test the 4G radio to make sure it's not a hardware issue? Any other things I should be looking at? I verified the Mobile Network was set to Global in both Mobile Settings and in Phone Info.
Thanks for any help you can provide!
The only way to check it's not hardware (which I'm sure it isn't) is if you Odin flash either ICS tar of VRALG1 or VRALF2 then reprovision your sim card. The reprovision dialer code is
*2767*3855#
but be aware that this formats /sdcard aka your internal storage. This code only works on the above based ICS roms.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
The only way to check it's not hardware (which I'm sure it isn't) is if you Odin flash either ICS tar of VRALG1 or VRALF2 then reprovision your sim card. The reprovision dialer code is
*2767*3855#
but be aware that this formats /sdcard aka your internal storage. This code only works on the above based ICS roms.
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Great, thanks! So, are you thinking it is the SIM card then? It's supposed to arrive on Monday, but I won't be able to test out the new one in a known 4G area until Tuesday.
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Great, thanks! So, are you thinking it is the SIM card then? It's supposed to arrive on Monday, but I won't be able to test out the new one in a known 4G area until Tuesday.
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Yea it likely is the sim if LTE went away after you performed a *228. That's for only for 3g phones and typically you would run this to update your Preferred Roaming List (PRL). For LTE sim phones, you just need to remove the sim for 15 to 30 seconds then put it back in to initiate your phone to update its PRL. Updating your PRL is useful to make your phone (whatever phone it is) associate itself with any new and all towers in your area.
Also, why can't you just go into the Verizon store and pick up a sim? Why wait for them to deliver it?
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Also, why can't you just go into the Verizon store and pick up a sim? Why wait for them to deliver it?
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I thought about that and they offered, but, unfortunately, my work and home schedule prevented me from going to the nearest Verizon store.
UPDATE:
The new SIM card did the trick! 4G is once again available and blazing fast.
Thanks again!
My phone is unlocked and using uxma7, but I cant turn off lte when I want to save battery, I always tried to find a reliable to do this but can't. I just popped in an international sim the other day, and it let me switch back and forth, but when I put the att sim back in, I can't again, anyone can offer me some advice?
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My phone is unlocked and using uxma7, but I cant turn off lte when I want to save battery, I always tried to find a reliable to do this but can't. I just popped in an international sim the other day, and it let me switch back and forth, but when I put the att sim back in, I can't again, anyone can offer me some advice?
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It's because att is like the crazy boss who likes to micro mange you until you start screaming. The good news is there is way, the bad news is it sticks until the next reboot.
setting-->more-->mobile networks-->Network Operators
let it search until the end of time ... eventually you'll get bunch of network names manually selected the first at&t you see on top, and it'll say registered on the network.
Now go change it around and have fun with 2G or 3G or whatever kwanzaa you like
Yeah I used to do that on aosp roms, but you can't search it on Touchwizz, thanks though
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Hello everyone! I have recently moved from NY to CA. Back in NY I had data speeds of 25+ mbps. Since I have been in CA my speeds have been much lower, sub 5. So I updated my towers with *228 and now my data speeds are EVEN WORSE. I only get 3G now and my speed is 1 mpbs at best. I'm currently running the latest version of slimkat, and I haven't updated my radio in as long as I can remember. Could the radio be my problem? Anyone have any ideas or maybe something to troubleshoot? My data speed makes it so some apps/games are barely usable. Thanks for your time.
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Hello everyone! I have recently moved from NY to CA. Back in NY I had data speeds of 25+ mbps. Since I have been in CA my speeds have been much lower, sub 5. So I updated my towers with *228 and now my data speeds are EVEN WORSE. I only get 3G now and my speed is 1 mpbs at best. I'm currently running the latest version of slimkat, and I haven't updated my radio in as long as I can remember. Could the radio be my problem? Anyone have any ideas or maybe something to troubleshoot? My data speed makes it so some apps/games are barely usable. Thanks for your time.
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You probably fried your sim card, you aren't supposed to use *228 on lte devices. Go over to Verizon and ask them for a new one.
As far as data speeds go, there isn't much you can do. You can switch to a touchwiz rom, and it should give you better reception, but it won't give you data speeds that quick.
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BadUsername said:
You probably fried your sim card, you aren't supposed to use *228 on lte devices. Go over to Verizon and ask them for a new one.
As far as data speeds go, there isn't much you can do. You can switch to a touchwiz rom, and it should give you better reception, but it won't give you data speeds that quick.
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I just had to say this. BadUsername, while you are correct that dialing *228 does in fact break 4G functionality, it does NOT fry your SIM card. What it does do however is put you on a 3G only PRL. Now when you go get a new SIM card it goes through the activation giving you a new 4G capable PRL #. I have read people say that they are able to get back on a 4G PRL by driving to another city (or another tower) and powering off the phone and removing the SIM will put you on a new 4G PRL. I haven't tested this however myself as I have never been stuck on a 3G only PRL.
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OK thanks for the information. It shouldn't be hard to find another tower in So Cal. I'll report back if it works, otherwise I'll just get a new SIM card. Thank you!
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I just had to say this. BadUsername, while you are correct that dialing *228 does in fact break 4G functionality, it does NOT fry your SIM card. What it does do however is put you on a 3G only PRL. Now when you go get a new SIM card it goes through the activation giving you a new 4G capable PRL #. I have read people say that they are able to get back on a 4G PRL by driving to another city (or another tower) and powering off the phone and removing the SIM will put you on a new 4G PRL. I haven't tested this however myself as I have never been stuck on a 3G only PRL.
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Thank you! Much better information.
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Went to another city and had to reboot a bunch of times but I got LTE back. When I came back to my home city (where I had done the *228) and then rebooted my phone it went back to 3G. So it appears that my SIM card is now stuck in 3G at my home tower(s) but can get 4G else where... need a new SIM I guess. Regardless, my data speeds around where I live suck and it's really annoying. 10 mins south from where I live I am getting 10 fold increase in data speed. Thanks for the input guys!
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Went to another city and had to reboot a bunch of times but I got LTE back. When I came back to my home city (where I had done the *228) and then rebooted my phone it went back to 3G. So it appears that my SIM card is now stuck in 3G at my home tower(s) but can get 4G else where... need a new SIM I guess. Regardless, my data speeds around where I live suck and it's really annoying. 10 mins south from where I live I am getting 10 fold increase in data speed. Thanks for the input guys!
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Take the SIM out, boot the phone back up with no SIM card, let it sit for 10 minutes, power off, reinsert SIM, reboot phone. Should fix it.
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Take the SIM out, boot the phone back up with no SIM card, let it sit for 10 minutes, power off, reinsert SIM, reboot phone. Should fix it.
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Just wanted to update in case this happens to someone else. I did what you mentioned for 10 minutes, and then again for over 30 minutes and it didn't fix the problem. I went in and got a new SIM card and now I am back to LTE. Thanks for the help guys!
I've been having a network issue lately, thought it was the software update. I got a new simcard when I got the phone but the 10 minute trick has worked for me before, I usually have to do it a couple times though.