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[Q] Atrix 2 on 2.3.6 root issue after update

I received a message yesterday to update. I did so and then realized some of the rooted features were not working. It said i had granted superuser permission, but i would get the message saying your phone is not rooted. I tried rooting again and when it got to the bottom line it said something like "failed file already exist" and then "Your Phone is Rooted!"
I guess at this point I would like to unroot and maybe wait for the 2.3.6 root.
I originally used the 1 click exploit method not the superoneclick.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Info currently on Android version:2.3.6
System version: 55.13.25.mb865.ATT.en.US

Same. Kinda worried, not sure if a lot of rooted stuff is working. Can't really tell. Kind of regret updating.
EDIT:
SetCPU app tells me that it is having trouble accessing 'permissions'. I can't change the CPU or do anything in that app.
Superuser app seems to say that it is 'allowed' though.

Yes. I regret the update now as well. I was'nt thinking when I did it. Superuser will show they are allowed, but they don"t really seem to be fully functional. If you delete a rooted app and reinstall it will not be shown in Superuser. I just want to unroot and wait fo a better option.

I'm not going to 'do anything' about this right now because I feel like a lot of these updates are helpful (like no more carrierIQ according to some post in the atrix 2 forum for this site, and less end call lag). Going to wait and see if someone finds a root exploit for this. Just kinda bummed about not being able to use SetCPU now.

I'm good with the update. At this point I would like to remove the root that isn't really a root anymore. I do miss titanium backup.

Ok, need some major advice re: this OTA update..
I've got the Atrix 2, obviously...and when i got it, i did the one click root, then immediately installed titanium backup and did a full backup to my microsd card. Then i started yanking out all the bloatware. Thats about all i did. No weird mods, etc...
Now im getting this notice that there is a OTA update, i download it, but it has an error when it installs and keeps nagging me about the update.
What does everybody suggest I do at this point? If I restore my phone using the titanium backup, will that allow me to get the update? I'm guessing the error is caused because the OTA is trying to update apps that I removed.
And if I do that and it works... will my phone still be rooted? Or will I have to re-root?
I'm new to this and ANY help or ANY advice would be GREAT.
Please, let me know something =)
~bobby
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this is my first time on the XDA dev forums, so please speak slowly and be kind

I also had Titanium backup. I did the upgrade and it did not recognize the root after the upgrade. Therefore Titanium back up was not accessible. I also have not found a way to root the atrix 2 now that it is upgraded to 2.3.6. When I try the "1click exploit" method to root it goes through the process and says its already rooted, but I have no super user capabilities. Let me know if you find a solution. Otherwise if the root for titanium back up is important to you I would hold off on the upgrade for now.

When you did choose to do the update, did it give u errors until u restored your phone back to stock? What I mean is, did you have any errors installing the update when it first rolled out?
Because I have tried to do the update when it first came out, but it downloads, gets about 1/3 of the way installed and then give me an error and reboots. I'm thinking the only way to get past that is to use my titanium backup and put back all the stuff I took off right? Cause I made my backup IMMEDIATELY after I rooted my phone.
Root is important to me, and this stupid update isnt, but I also don't like being nagged about it every time I turn around.
I dunno what to do. :/ Im honestly kinda angry that they would do this and screw up root access for those of us who have it.
Sorta makes me wonder if that was part of the whole idea to begin with.
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Also, I just found this article. I haven't been a member here long enough for it to allow me to post links to the outside world, but just google these keywords: theandroidsoul, update atrix 2 to 2.3.6 OTA with root retained.
It gives these instructions:
Compatibility
This guide has been specifically written for the Motorola Atrix 2. Do not try to attempt it any other device as it may cause issues with your device. Check your device model number in: Settings » About Phone
How To Apply 2.3.6 OTA Update on the Atrix 4G, with Root retained
Download and Install OTA Rootkeeper on your Atrix 2
Launch OTA Rootkeeper, and Select ‘Create SU backup‘
Once SU backup is completed, Select Temp Unroot .
Now exit OTA Rootkeeper
Uninstall the Superuser app. In case you have Superuser Elite installed, uninstall that too.
Now uninstall OTA Rootkeeper. The backup you created through OTA rootkeeper in Step 2 above will still be retained, so don’t worry.
Now go ahead and download the 2.3.6 OTA update to the phone and apply it
Once the update is complete, reboot the phone. Once it has rebooted, power-cycle the phone ( Switch it off and power it back on after a minute)
Once the phone has booted back up, install OTA Rootkeeper and Superuser again
Launch OTA Rootkeeper, and Select Restore Root. This should bring up a superuser permission prompt, Accept it.
Now reboot the phone.
That’s it!! You have updated to the latest 2.3.6 OTA, and are also rooted.
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I am thinking about trying this. Using Titanium backup to get my phone back to how it was right after I rooted it, then following this guide, and then doing the OTA update.
Anybody see any holes in that plot before I go do something stupid?
~bobby

Bobby Anderson said:
When you did choose to do the update, did it give u errors until u restored your phone back to stock? What I mean is, did you have any errors installing the update when it first rolled out?
Because I have tried to do the update when it first came out, but it downloads, gets about 1/3 of the way installed and then give me an error and reboots. I'm thinking the only way to get past that is to use my titanium backup and put back all the stuff I took off right? Cause I made my backup IMMEDIATELY after I rooted my phone.
Root is important to me, and this stupid update isnt, but I also don't like being nagged about it every time I turn around.
I dunno what to do. :/ Im honestly kinda angry that they would do this and screw up root access for those of us who have it.
Sorta makes me wonder if that was part of the whole idea to begin with.
---------- Post added at 06:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:08 PM ----------
Also, I just found this article. I haven't been a member here long enough for it to allow me to post links to the outside world, but just google these keywords: theandroidsoul, update atrix 2 to 2.3.6 OTA with root retained.
It gives these instructions:
Compatibility
This guide has been specifically written for the Motorola Atrix 2. Do not try to attempt it any other device as it may cause issues with your device. Check your device model number in: Settings » About Phone
How To Apply 2.3.6 OTA Update on the Atrix 4G, with Root retained
Download and Install OTA Rootkeeper on your Atrix 2
Launch OTA Rootkeeper, and Select ‘Create SU backup‘
Once SU backup is completed, Select Temp Unroot .
Now exit OTA Rootkeeper
Uninstall the Superuser app. In case you have Superuser Elite installed, uninstall that too.
Now uninstall OTA Rootkeeper. The backup you created through OTA rootkeeper in Step 2 above will still be retained, so don’t worry.
Now go ahead and download the 2.3.6 OTA update to the phone and apply it
Once the update is complete, reboot the phone. Once it has rebooted, power-cycle the phone ( Switch it off and power it back on after a minute)
Once the phone has booted back up, install OTA Rootkeeper and Superuser again
Launch OTA Rootkeeper, and Select Restore Root. This should bring up a superuser permission prompt, Accept it.
Now reboot the phone.
That’s it!! You have updated to the latest 2.3.6 OTA, and are also rooted.
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I am thinking about trying this. Using Titanium backup to get my phone back to how it was right after I rooted it, then following this guide, and then doing the OTA update.
Anybody see any holes in that plot before I go do something stupid?
~bobby
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To answer the first part. I downloaded the update when I recived the message. I wasnt thinking about it giving problems with the root. I had no issues at all with the download. just the root not working afterwards.
The second part sounds like it might work for you, but it must be done before you update. It is too late for me to use this method. If i could unroot it, which I haven't found a way yet. I would try the method to save the root.
At least you thought about the upgrade and the root before thinking "oh boy an update lets do it", like I did. Now I'm stuck with a phone that thinks its rooted, but wonn't grant superuser permissions and won't take another root.

OTA failed
I ran into the same thing, downloaded the OTA today and run the update, really without thinking about the implications ('nother stupid n00b here : )). Interestingly it failed immediately and I still have root, I don't have any idea why it failed except maybe Superuser blocked the OTA packages SU access, is that even possible?
Anyway,,,Has anyone tried the OTA Rootkeeper procedure? I would like to have the update, because of stability issues, but I want to keep root more than I want the update.
Thanks

Did not work for me I back up to SD Card and used Titanium Back up and after the update cant get anything to work. Guess I have to wait until one of the experts comes up with anoter 1-Click_Exploit or Exploit (Manual). I'm new at all this and know just enough to be dangerous:-(

[Q] Question about root-injected ROMs

Little backstory: A friend of mine had just recently bought a Razr Maxx HD on craigslist. The individual who sold him the phone had the phone rooted. My friend didn't want the phone rooted, and specifically asked the individual to unroot it. We used the application root checker to check if the phone was still rooted and it said the phone wasn't. My friend restored the phone to factory settings and it still had the superuser application installed. Now, I personally have rooted phones before and if I have all my information correct the process to root a phone requires you to over-write the factory/stock ROM and replacing it with a root-injected ROM. My friend wishes to have his phone completely stock. The kernel seems to be the right factory/stock one, but he and I are still concerned that it is still rooted. Although there's really no harm to rooting, he wishes to get the complete stock ROM on his device. Now, the question lol. Is there any danger to keeping the root-injected ROM on his device? Could we use ODIN to put the official stock ROM back on the device? Should he not even worry that his current ROM is root-injected?

Manevolence said:
Little backstory: A friend of mine had just recently bought a Razr Maxx HD on craigslist. The individual who sold him the phone had the phone rooted. My friend didn't want the phone rooted, and specifically asked the individual to unroot it. We used the application root checker to check if the phone was still rooted and it said the phone wasn't. My friend restored the phone to factory settings and it still had the superuser application installed. Now, I personally have rooted phones before and if I have all my information correct the process to root a phone requires you to over-write the factory/stock ROM and replacing it with a root-injected ROM. My friend wishes to have his phone completely stock. The kernel seems to be the right factory/stock one, but he and I are still concerned that it is still rooted. Although there's really no harm to rooting, he wishes to get the complete stock ROM on his device. Now, the question lol. Is there any danger to keeping the root-injected ROM on his device? Could we use ODIN to put the official stock ROM back on the device? Should he not even worry that his current ROM is root-injected?
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Huh. Root is just access to system level commands, and usually some exploit within the stock rom is used to install and run SU/superuser. If it has wireless provider branding (boot screen says Verizon, for example) it's a stock rom... and you're fine, just delete the SU app if it bothers you.

EdwardN said:
Huh. Root is just access to system level commands, and usually some exploit within the stock rom is used to install and run SU/superuser. If it has wireless provider branding (boot screen says Verizon, for example) it's a stock rom... and you're fine, just delete the SU app if it bothers you.
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Hey, Guys - Thanks for the help..
I reboot the phone and it says droid but nothing about verizon. I am not sure if the Razr Maxx HD normally says verizon but my girlfriend has the phone and i will try it on hers to see if the rom is stock.
The problem is i am worried there are other things in this rom that are not the norm. It will not let you uninstall superuser at all. If you google superuser and you read about the app it does say in the App info that if the Rom you install has superuser in System/Apps then it cant be removed which is whats scaring me.
I really want the phone back to 100% factory stock as i bought this second hand and I cant take chances with anything weird in the OS.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Craig

theatermax said:
Hey, Guys - Thanks for the help..
I reboot the phone and it says droid but nothing about verizon. I am not sure if the Razr Maxx HD normally says verizon but my girlfriend has the phone and i will try it on hers to see if the rom is stock.
The problem is i am worried there are other things in this rom that are not the norm. It will not let you uninstall superuser at all. If you google superuser and you read about the app it does say in the App info that if the Rom you install has superuser in System/Apps then it cant be removed which is whats scaring me.
I really want the phone back to 100% factory stock as i bought this second hand and I cant take chances with anything weird in the OS.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Craig
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The surest, easiest way to make sure it is stock is to reflash the phone using the Droid Razr HD Utility Tool, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970267. It will put the factory firmware back on the phone. Afterwards, there will be 2 OTA updates to install. The first one is an incremental bug fix update. The second is the JB update.
EDIT: The normal boot screen is the Motorola logo followed by the Droid animation.

[Q] Can they tell if my Samsung was rooted?

I am using a Samsung Galaxy Pocket (GT-S5300) which has Android Gingerbread 2.3.6. I rooted the phone by applying update.zip through the recovery console. I installed titanium backup free, and ROM manager free, but quickly uninstalled them after I saw that I did not really need them on this phone. I never installed clockwork recovery, i never flashed anything. I then unrooted the phone by repeating the steps I did to root, using the unroot.zip (renaming first to update.zip) That worked and Superuser app was removed after reboot.
I never connected to a PC to do any of this, simply did it from the recovery boot.
Now what I want to know is....can Samsung tell my phone has been rooted? If so, what can I do to remove any trace of it?
Thank you. I know this question has been asked before and answered but I could not find an answer which dealt specifically with my situation where nothing was ever flashed.

Get a root checker app and see if it detects root. If you haven't flashed anything you should fine.
Sent from my Xperia Mini Pro using xda app-developers app

I don't know if they can detect rooted phones. But I do know that if you unroot your phone you regain your warranty.

cs098 - I'm sure a Root Checker app would not detect root, as it has been unrooted. But what I am asking is whether Samsung could detect if the phone had been rooted in the past.
Athoomas - How do you know that the warranty is regained if the phone is unrooted? Can you point me to any link online stating this for Samsung company?
Thank you for the replies!

They really can't determine if your phone was rooted before
// sent from a galactic Ars Sss

Recover to factory settings
If you've successfully unrooted your phone it is still possible to see the changes you've made when you phone was rooted. So the best thing you can do is recover to factory settings..

Its very unlikely but if you wanted to be sure a complete factory reset would be your best bet.
Alot of samsung devices have a flash counter that is designed to count the number of times a custom ROM has been flashed, however this is normally by passed anyway (and infact can be reset).
But seeing as you just rooted im sure you will be fine

Getting to 4.3...got past 402 error!

Apologize in advance if this is intuitively obvious to other but after searching and reading a better part of the day, I can't figure it out...
In any case...I rooted my 4.1.2 phone a while back with the casual root. Didn't unlock the bootloader or install a custom recovery, just rooted. So that puts busybox and supersu on my phone. Later on, I installed a custom sound thing to get some decent volume out of this thing.
Now I tried taking the OTA and it failed. I thought it would just wipe out the root stuff and be on it's merry way (like other devices I've had in the past). So, I used the one touch unroot in SuperSu and tried again. Still failed. And it still showed me busybox in the app drawer.
So, here's my question...
Do I need to remove my custom volume thing as well as do the unroot?
And do I need to uninstall busybox before doing the unroot via supersu? Or do i just go to the apps and install it there after the SuperSu unroot?
And, if none of those work right, do I fall back to flashing 4.1.2 directly - or maybe better to flash 4.3 directly? I plan on using saferoot once I'm up to 4.3.
If anyone can help me sort this out, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm rerooted for the moment.
Thanks!

doncaruana said:
Apologize in advance if this is intuitively obvious to other but after searching and reading a better part of the day, I can't figure it out...
In any case...I rooted my 4.1.2 phone a while back with the casual root. Didn't unlock the bootloader or install a custom recovery, just rooted. So that puts busybox and supersu on my phone. Later on, I installed a custom sound thing to get some decent volume out of this thing.
Now I tried taking the OTA and it failed. I thought it would just wipe out the root stuff and be on it's merry way (like other devices I've had in the past). So, I used the one touch unroot in SuperSu and tried again. Still failed. And it still showed me busybox in the app drawer.
So, here's my question...
Do I need to remove my custom volume thing as well as do the unroot?
And do I need to uninstall busybox before doing the unroot via supersu? Or do i just go to the apps and install it there after the SuperSu unroot?
And, if none of those work right, do I fall back to flashing 4.1.2 directly - or maybe better to flash 4.3 directly? I plan on using saferoot once I'm up to 4.3.
If anyone can help me sort this out, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm rerooted for the moment.
Thanks!
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OTA will look for any rooted app and fail so you best bet is just Odin the full 4.3 then root with saferoot. This is you also have a nice clean install.

buhohitr said:
OTA will look for any rooted app and fail so you best bet is just Odin the full 4.3 then root with saferoot. This is you also have a nice clean install.
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Thanks!
Been a looong time since I messed with Odin...this will just be firmware - no data or store apps will be touched, right?

doncaruana said:
Thanks!
Been a looong time since I messed with Odin...this will just be firmware - no data or store apps will be touched, right?
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Sorry but flashing the full firmware will wipe everything bring it back to factory stock phone, so you need to backup all your stuff.

Well, just to share with everyone, I did not flash back to stock. For a number of reasons, that wasn't really an option.
My first step was removing viper4android. That actually got rid of the "custom" screen with the open lock on boot.
Then I uninstalled busybox from within itself. Unfortunately, as noted elsewhere, that leaves several hundred symlinks in xbin, so I removed all of those (I was only left with dexdump and su there). After that, I actually uninstalled busybox via the app manager.
Then I used the unroot option in supersu to clean up the rest and remove it.
At this point, I should be completely unrooted, but still got the 402 error when failing to upgrade with the OTA.
So...I plugged the phone in and ran the software upgrade assistant that shows up on the "CD" that presents itself from the phone when you plug it in to USB to the computer. And, actually, that successfully completed the upgrade to 4.3!
Haven't embarked on re-rooting yet (using saferoot) but that's the plan at least.

[Q] How do I update a rooted, locked, 4.1.2 to 4.4.2 OTA?

Hello. I have a XT925 running 4.1.2. The phone was rooted a long time ago. I don't remember if I installed a recovery, nor which recovery (if any) was installed at the time (volume up + power yields a boot mode selection menu; it seems to be the original bootloader).
My carrier released the 4.4.2 OTA just today. When I try to update, the phone reboots and displays an "Update failed" error message. I uninstalled as many apps as AdAway and XPosed that I think could be tampering with the process, but still I can't install the update.
How can I update to KitKat? (If it isn't obvious by now, I don't follow most of the technicalities of this things with Android. I'm fairly knowledgeable about computers, just not Android. I've read a lot of threads here and still can't figure out how to do this!)
Will I be able to re-root the phone afterwards? Will I be able to unlock it?
Thanks!

unless you have some concerns about warranty, I suggest go ahead and unlock bootlocader via moto website. Then you are free to do as you please, meaning uprade to kk stock, custom rom and root without hassle.

hbenz2008 said:
unless you have some concerns about warranty, I suggest go ahead and unlock bootlocader via moto website. Then you are free to do as you please, meaning uprade to kk stock, custom rom and root without hassle.
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Ok, I did it (and lost everything on the phone in the process). The phone said it was unlocked. The phone is now back to stock, clean 4.1.2. But I still can't update. I get the same "update failed" error message.
What should I do?

Dont panic! haha you will get it done I have no doubt.
First did you factory reset after all was done. Do that and try again
if not, there are other ways , some easier than others but all within your capabilities
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...tutorial-make-motorola-razr-hd-xt925-t2916465
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760840&page=3