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[WARNING] Do not flash a new official RUU/ROM/OTA if you have root and/or S-OFF

DO NOT FLASH A NEW RUU OR OFFICIAL ROM IMAGE UNLESS YOU *REALLY* KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
The title says it all!​

Doktaphex said:
As the title suggests, this is warning against flashing the new RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.3_R_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_ 26.04.02.17_M2_release. It contains a new version of HBoot that breaks root and standard S-OFF! Please refer to these threads for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879375
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
You may be safe if you have full radio S-OFF and SuperCID but this is unconfirmed, and I would steer well clear until the DEVs have cracked open this latest HBoot.
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Confirmed:
Only if you have full radio S-OFF you can 'downgrade' to 1.32xxxxxx and root

Yes, I can confirm that, too. You have to have Super-CID (Radio S-OFF) to downgrade. Rooting is not possible in this new one. Yet.

Can please someone explain me what's the real difference between ENG S OFF But CID 11111 and SHIP S OFF and CID HTC....?

ENG S-OFF: It is engineering bootloader S-OFF (may include Radio S-OFF). Allows custom bootloader commands, for example radio flashing, also allows to install custom roms.
SHIP S-OFF: Radio S-OFF, does not allow radio flashing, but allows ClockworkMod flashing. Usually comes together with SuperCID.
CID 11111111: Super-CID, Super Carrier ID, allows you to downgrade, and flash really anything to the phone without the phone saying "no thanks".
CID HTC__xxx: HTC Carrier ID, does not allow downgrading via RUU, but you can still flash through ClockworkMod if you are S-OFF.

Thank you very much for this answer..I ask because i cannot find this information somewhere in one post!
I am with ENG S-OFF and CID 11111111
So i can flash the new RUU and i am able to revert back to 1.32xxxxxx and root again.Correct?

Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img

Yeah but it needs clockworkmod, which goes away if people use the actual RUU. Also flashing system.img does not replace the bootloader, so S-OFF stays in fine (also hboot S-OFF).

How can you tell what your CID is?

madindehead said:
How can you tell what your CID is?
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Bootloader > Fastboot > System Info (or something like that)
If you are SuperCID then it is 11111111 if not, then it begins with HTC_xxxx

looks like also this RUU_Ace_Orange_ES_1.75.75.2_Radio_12.28e.60.140f_2 6.04.02.17_M2_release also seems to stop you gaining root and fix's patched Hboot as someone saying he flashed the rom and can't gain root.

joners said:
Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img
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can you tell how to extract the system.img from rom?
all i get is a [0] file. dont know what to do with it.

[HOW TO SAFELY FLASH THE NEW ROM AND BE ABLE TO REVERT BACK]
Currently, the new ROM (1.72.405.3) has a new HBOOT (so you can't install ENG HBOOT S-OFF) and is difficult to root (not as simple as it is with previous ROMs). However, it also has a better radio, and a faster ROM with various bugfixes. This ROM is also Android Froyo v2.21. If you want to try out the new ROM, whilst maintaining the ability to 'revert' back to your older, hackable state then follow the below instructions carefully. Also, do not worry about extracting system.img files and whatnot.
*It is recommended to do a NANDROID BACKUP first
*All RUUs can be obtained from www.xdafil.es/DesireHD/RUU/
*If you don't do steps 1-3 properly and flash the new ROM, you will not be able to revert back
*Radio S-OFF and SuperCID can be obtained by following instructions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
*Tutorial for flashing RUUs (needed for steps 4 & 8): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841890
1. Install Radio S-OFF (NOT ENG HBOOT S-OFF) and SuperCID
2. Go to bootloader, then System Info. (If System Info is not there, but you have SHIP S-OFF skip step 3 and proceed to step 4)
3. Make sure CID is 11111111 *AND* the bootloader shows S-OFF. If not, repeat step 1
4. You can now flash the new ROM (1.72.405.3)
5. This will remove ENG HBOOT (if you had it) and ClockworkMod
6. If you did steps 1-3 correctly, your Desire HD should still be S-OFF. Go to bootloader and check. If not, you did not do steps 1-3 correctly and will have to wait for the new HBOOT to be cracked.
When you are done with the new ROM and want to go back, follow the instructions below:
7. Download the HTC RUU 1.32.405.6 of your choice (Since you are SuperCID you can flash any RUU)
8. Flash it to your Desire HD
9. Root your ROM using Visionary, and install ROM Manager and flash ClockworkMod. You can optionally install ENG HBOOT S-OFF now if you like.
If you made a NANDROID Backup, you can restore this now from ClockworkMod

joners said:
Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img
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I can't get this to work myself, unfortunately.

joners said:
Looks like its been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9936625&postcount=91
At least it has if you flash just the system.img
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I have this working. The supplied .zip file does not include Superuser.apk. After following the instructions and then installing Superuser from the market I now have root on this rom.
Look forward to testing it over the next couple of days while I lay in hope of some custom roms based off this version.
EDIT: Superuser keeps force closing

My bootloader says
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85 2007 (PD9810000)
and system info says
CID-11111111
Am I good to go or shall I do something else?
Thank you for sharing info.

doh!
being used to the days of winmo I flashed this rom over my cyanogen taking a backup first.
Now I can't revert back to the old stock rom, any way of doing this (easily ish)?

Hi, I'm ENG S-Off but my CID is not 1111111, what's the safest way to do the Super-CID?
I'm stucked abroad using a **** phone cos I can't use another sim in my DHD
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk on Revolution 1. 92

ninja.rogue said:
My bootloader says
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85 2007 (PD9810000)
and system info says
CID-11111111
Am I good to go or shall I do something else?
Thank you for sharing info.
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Also on the same boat...
Anyone??

ninja.rogue said:
My bootloader says
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85 2007 (PD9810000)
and system info says
CID-11111111
Am I good to go or shall I do something else?
Thank you for sharing info.
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looks like you are, you have superCID.

Sensation 4G ICS Rooting Guide Needed

Hi guys i recently updated my HTC Sensation 4G from 2.3.4 to OTA ICS 4.0.3
and now this is how my Hboot Looks Like:
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.23.3504.07_M2
OpenADSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0131
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012, 17:33:34
so basically i remained S-Off after updating from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3, so i want to install Root and Custom Recovery Again.
Since im in ICS, 1- Which custom recovery should i install? (Regular or Touch)
2- which Root should i install Superuser or SuperSu?
3- is there a guide to accomplish this?
4- can any1 tell me or direct me or guide me or link me where to go to get this done?
thanks in advanced

dr69 said:
Hi guys i recently updated my HTC Sensation 4G from 2.3.4 to OTA ICS 4.0.3
and now this is how my Hboot Looks Like:
***LOCKED***
PYRAMID PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.27.0000
RADIO-11.23.3504.07_M2
OpenADSP-v02.6.0.2226.00.0131
eMMC-boot
Jan 13 2012, 17:33:34
so basically i remained S-Off after updating from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3, so i want to install Root and Custom Recovery Again.
Since im in ICS, 1- Which custom recovery should i install? (Regular or Touch)
2- which Root should i install Superuser or SuperSu?
3- is there a guide to accomplish this?
4- can any1 tell me or direct me or guide me or link me where to go to get this done?
thanks in advanced
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Hi,
You should be OK to just install something like ARHD ROM
It contains root and recovery,which are installed when you flash the ROM...
On the [OP] is also a superwipe which will clean and prepare your phone for the new ROM.
Backup your stuff,place the superwipe and ROM on the root of your sd card and flash from recovery

Thanks for.your response but I'm really not interested in installing Custom Roms at the moment, just Stock Rom for now.
Can you please if u know or have any info on doing the.rooting and Custom Recovery by myself.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2

Easy enough ..find chainfires supersu thread and at the bottom download the attachment flash it..but before that..put your device in fast boot via USB..flash any recovery like say cwr(cwm) by typing fastboot flash recovery recoverynamehere.img then flash root file on your SD let me know if your confused
Sent from an AOKP Sensation 4G

I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off

kgs1992 said:
I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off
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I've already downloaded your tool and tried to install 4EXT recovery, but when I restarted to Hboot, it's still stock recovery there. I'm in the same boat as the guy above, with S-off and stock-everything ICS. What should I do now?

Yo_2T said:
I've already downloaded your tool and tried to install 4EXT recovery, but when I restarted to Hboot, it's still stock recovery there. I'm in the same boat as the guy above, with S-off and stock-everything ICS. What should I do now?
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Did you download the recovery.img from the attachments?
If you are SOff then either of the 2 methods should work.

Which recovery is that, CWM or 4EXT? Normal or Touch?
Cause I read that 4ext is better for ics
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2

dr69 said:
Which recovery is that, CWM or 4EXT? Normal or Touch?
Cause I read that 4ext is better for ics
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2
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4EXT touch. If you'd please care to read the tool thread.

kgs1992 said:
Did you download the recovery.img from the attachments?
If you are SOff then either of the 2 methods should work.
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Ok so I downloaded the file you mentioned, then it gets to here "writing recovery....FAILED...remote: not allowed" what does that mean?

Yo_2T said:
Ok so I downloaded the file you mentioned, then it gets to here "writing recovery....FAILED...remote: not allowed" what does that mean?
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You need either an unlocked bootloader or a ENG bootloader to be able to flash recovery.

kgs1992 said:
You need either an unlocked bootloader or a ENG bootloader to be able to flash recovery.
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So can I use the option in your tool to install ENG bootloader? I used Revolutionary to gain S-off before.

Yo_2T said:
So can I use the option in your tool to install ENG bootloader? I used Revolutionary to gain S-off before.
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Revolutionary is an engineering (ENG) bootloader

Oh ok so ENG stands for Engeneering I thought it stranded for English, sorry but I'm still new to all this Android Terminology.
You know, someone should make a thread with all these android terminology and make it a Sticky.
Thanks for the info.
Btw, do you know since I got my Sm-Off back with GB and now I updated to ICS and I see that my bootloader says S-Off still, am I still good for Custom Recovery and Root?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2

HOLY CRAP! can this be any more confusing. I've been following this thread waiting for a final answer and still nothing. If anyone gets this done, please do a step by step for those of us not willing to blaze new ground here.
I know there are tons of us in the same boat. Upgraded to ICS stock and wanting to keep the ROM, just open ourselves up to CWM flashing options and root required apps.
Based on what the original poster is going through here, most of us do not want to chase down link after link.
I'll keep watching hoping for a final answer. Make the last post a link to the STEP by STEP.
Thanks all for your patience.

Look, you basically need a bootloader that says *unlocked*, *revolutionary* & *juopunutbear*.
If you are S Off but locked, flash an ENG Hboot.
If you are S On & locked, unlock using HTC Dev or S Off using JB.
Now, after this, flash 4EXT recovery & then root the device.
If your Hboot version is less than 1.27 flash firmware.
I'm assuming you are already on stock, so you have a stock rooted rom with custom recovery.
All of these can be done using my tool.
That's about as much I can help you with.
Also, when you talk about being new, look at when I've joined & when you'll have.
I got my first android phone a month ago & I'm on XDA since less than 3 weeks!
(No offence meant, but please try searching)

dr69 said:
Oh ok so ENG stands for Engeneering I thought it stranded for English, sorry but I'm still new to all this Android Terminology.
You know, someone should make a thread with all these android terminology and make it a Sticky.
Thanks for the info.
Btw, do you know since I got my Sm-Off back with GB and now I updated to ICS and I see that my bootloader says S-Off still, am I still good for Custom Recovery and Root?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2
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Just try my... One click root... Guide in my signature... No recovery required.. Just soff is enough
Sent from my pyramid.. Through blazing fast sonic waves

Regarding ur tool v6.4.2
kgs1992 said:
I would recommend my tool. Link in signature.
You can Root since you have S Off
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ok i just downloaded your tool from your the link under your signature and is version 6.4.2 and i think i remeber you or someone else suggesting that i needed to install the ENG option which is option 10 but then your tools says that option 10 in intended for devices who have been S-Off using the JB S-Off (juopunutbear or something, the wire trick thingy). so mine as you can see in the first post im S-Off but im still remained Locked from upgrading from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3 but i have never used the JB method, sooooo does option 10 applies to me or NOT?
how do i get the ***LOCKED*** to say something else? do i need a different bootloader or a different hboot or a different recovery or what?
what do i need to get: have in mind that im gonna try using your tool
***LOCKED*** into something else?
Custom Recovery?
Root? SuperSU or Superuser?
etc and everything else needed to have full control of my phone?
also can you tell me with your tool in order to understand you better what would be the steps i have to follow in order to achieve all this? for example: step 1 for S-off, then step 3 for custom rec. ext4, then step 4 root device, etc, etc you know what i mean just for me to follow up without screwing up my device, since im gonna follow ur instructions to the letter.
if you need more info on my device all you need is on my first post
thanks man i would really appreciate it

dr69 said:
ok i just downloaded your tool from your the link under your signature and is version 6.4.2 and i think i remeber you or someone else suggesting that i needed to install the ENG option which is option 10 but then your tools says that option 10 in intended for devices who have been S-Off using the JB S-Off (juopunutbear or something, the wire trick thingy). so mine as you can see in the first post im S-Off but im still remained Locked from upgrading from 2.3.4 to 4.0.3 but i have never used the JB method, sooooo does option 10 applies to me or NOT?
how do i get the ***LOCKED*** to say something else? do i need a different bootloader or a different hboot or a different recovery or what?
what do i need to get: have in mind that im gonna try using your tool
***LOCKED*** into something else?
Custom Recovery?
Root? SuperSU or Superuser?
etc and everything else needed to have full control of my phone?
also can you tell me with your tool in order to understand you better what would be the steps i have to follow in order to achieve all this? for example: step 1 for S-off, then step 3 for custom rec. ext4, then step 4 root device, etc, etc you know what i mean just for me to follow up without screwing up my device, since im gonna follow ur instructions to the letter.
if you need more info on my device all you need is on my first post
thanks man i would really appreciate it
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Too many questions, seems you're confused.
Please head to IRC & find me there. SigPic (REALTIME IRC) has link.
EDIT: To briefly explain, it doesn't matter Revolutionary S Off or Juopunut Bear S Off.
The ENG Hboot is compatible with both.
After this, you can choose to install custom recovery if you want to or, just root right away.
It is always advisable to have custom recovery installed.

Ok this is the pics of the.tool scroolong up all the time
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using Tapatalk 2

How to superwipe & root to Install ARHD ROM for Hboot 1.27?

Hello Guys
I want to flash The Android Revolution HD custon ROM.. I read this thread and also this one I fully understand, but just some points are not clear, I desperately need your guidance
The points that I didn't understand are:
- How to SuperWipe! I searched the forums, I know I hv to put Mike's script in root of sdcard.. boot at recovery.. when I choose recovery (after holding volume- + power key) It only shows a draw of a mobile with red exclamation mark! should I hv flashed recovery first? I never flashed anything.. I only unlocked my phone at htcdev.com and my sensation has S-ON and Hboot 1.27. With upgraded to ICS 4.0.3 and 3.32.163.12 firmware.
- What is the best recovery that would help me do superwipe? And how to flash this recovery?
So when I successfully superwipe I should install a stock ROM Then root it again ( as auggie2k explained)
I know how to install a ROM but I Don't know how to root!
So many questions I know! sorry but I'm new at those things..

1. This really should have gone in Q&A section
2. Best recovery is probably 4EXT.
3. Because you are S-ON, you need to follow the installing ROMs with S-ON guide (another reason to use 4EXT recovery is because of smartflash feature which makes flashing a ROM with S-ON much simpler).
4. I would recommend S-OFFing anyway because it means you can upgrade firmware and get supercid as well as others, look at the guides for juopunutbear S-OFF for more info on this

Jonny said:
1. This really should have gone in Q&A section
2. Best recovery is probably 4EXT.
3. Because you are S-ON, you need to follow the installing ROMs with S-ON guide (another reason to use 4EXT recovery is because of smartflash feature which makes flashing a ROM with S-ON much simpler).
4. I would recommend S-OFFing anyway because it means you can upgrade firmware and get supercid as well as others, look at the guides for juopunutbear S-OFF for more info on this
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I don't want to flash while being S-ON.. I want to do S-OFF and I'm aware of how to do it.. with cable trick and soo on, what i don't know is problems stated in first post. and how I do flash 4ext? last time I chceck it didn't support Hboot 1.27 or maybe i just mixed all things up

Dzbluefox said:
I don't want to flash while being S-ON.. I want to do S-OFF and I'm aware of how to do it.. with cable trick and soo on, what i don't know is problems stated in first post. and how I do flash 4ext? last time I chceck it didn't support Hboot 1.27 or maybe i just mixed all things up
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see also this thread.it might help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
it also shows you how to flash 4ext recovery

Dzbluefox said:
I don't want to flash while being S-ON.. I want to do S-OFF and I'm aware of how to do it.. with cable trick and soo on, what i don't know is problems stated in first post. and how I do flash 4ext? last time I chceck it didn't support Hboot 1.27 or maybe i just mixed all things up
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I am using the latest Hboot version which is 1.27 and I have no problem using 4EXT Recovery. I think you may have confused yourself some how lol. But hey we all get confused some time or another.

rzr86 said:
see also this thread.it might help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
it also shows you how to flash 4ext recovery
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T-Macgnolia said:
I am using the latest Hboot version which is 1.27 and I have no problem using 4EXT Recovery. I think you may have confused yourself some how lol. But hey we all get confused some time or another.
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Thanks guys for your guidnance.. I was just confused coz there are too much threads there that i read! anyway It was really easy though! Also this thread helped me to Boot into 4ext Recovery from PC without installation:fingers-crossed: which allowed me to wipe, root and install Stock ROM then doing S-OFF which was successful after following http://unlimited.io/'s JuopunutBear method. Now that I installed 4-EXT with your help guys, I'm downloading ARHD ROM in order to flash it with 3.33.401.x firmware

[Q] Can i root?

I've looked all over the forums, but i can't find an answer, could someone tell me if i can root my phone using SuperOneClick?
Here's what it says when i boot into bootloader:
*** LOCKED ***
SAGA PVT ENG S-OFF RL
HBOOT - 2.00.2002 (PG8810000)
RADIO - 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
I would like to install cyanogen mod, and i'm on t-mobile uk if that helps

How did you S-OFF without downgrading the hboot?

oddoneout said:
How did you S-OFF without downgrading the hboot?
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It was originally like that, haven't done anything to it

Your HBOOT says that your phone is S-OFF, which means you have full access to it.
On the other hand, not knowing your OS version, I'm not sure you can root using SuperOneClick - since it only works for Gingerbread.
Since you have S-OFF, just go and find "root for S-OFF users" thread in Development and do what is written there.

Download a rooted custom rom (usually a custom rom is rooted) then flash via recovery. You'll have your DS rooted.
Sent from my Desire S

Since your DS is already S-OFF you don't need SuperOneClick. You can root by flashing SuperSu from a custom recovery. You may already have a custom recovery installed by the person who S-OFFed your phone. If not it won't be too difficult to install a custom recovery. I recommend you 4EXT touch. You should also make a nandroid backup from the recovery of your current ROM before attempting to flash an alternate one. Titanium backup is also very useful in order to be able to restore your apps and their data after flashing a ROM. The pro version in worth the money.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app

yaonos said:
Since your DS is already S-OFF you don't need SuperOneClick. You can root by flashing SuperSu from a custom recovery. You may already have a custom recovery installed by the person who S-OFFed your phone. If not it won't be too difficult to install a custom recovery. I recommend you 4EXT touch. You should also make a nandroid backup from the recovery of your current ROM before attempting to flash an alternate one. Titanium backup is also very useful in order to be able to restore your apps and their data after flashing a ROM. The pro version in worth the money.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda app-developers app
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Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.

alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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4EXT is a Recovery - has nothing to do with being rooted or not rooted

alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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Judging by your answer, I strongly advise you to stay away from rooting your phone, and reading a lot instead.

alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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One you've comprehended and then followed the advice given in the two posts above
Install a recovery and then use it to install a custom pre-rooted ROM. You'll find links in the INDEX thread along with guides, which should be read, see the link in my signature.
Did you buy you're device new?
Sywepd form my DsereiS

alpha192 said:
Doesn't SuperSu require a rooted device? and i think 4ext also requires root access.
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Since your phone is S-OFF, you can flash a recovery with fastboot from your PC. It may not be necessary if a custom recovery has already been flashed to your phone. Check your recovery before proceeding to flash a custom one.
Once you have a custom recovery installed, your can flash SuperSu from this recovery to your ROM. You'll then have rooted your current ROM and will be able to make backups before trying to flash alternate ROMs. At minimum you should make a nandroid backup from the recovery ; it will allow you to come back to your current ROM in case your not satisfied with the alternate ROMs.
But take your time and read the stickies in order to be sure you understand what you are doing before proceeding further.

ben_pyett said:
One you've comprehended and then followed the advice given in the two posts above
Install a recovery and then use it to install a custom pre-rooted ROM. You'll find links in the INDEX thread along with guides, which should be read, see the link in my signature.
Did you buy you're device new?
Sywepd form my DsereiS
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Yes, i did buy my device new

alpha192 said:
Yes, i did buy my device new
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New device and already S-OFF?
Sent from my HTC Desire S

miwanr said:
New device and already S-OFF?
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Rare, but I seem to remember over a year ago when we all had to use an XTC-Clip that some people got their phones already S-Off.

yaonos said:
Since your phone is S-OFF, you can flash a recovery with fastboot from your PC.
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Not necessarily at all. Regular bootloaders, even when S-OFF, don't allow fastboot commands. If you try executing it on phone that was S-OFF-ed with XTC-Clip, for example, it'll fail.
For that the bootloader has to be re-engineered (or engineering bootloader flashed).

why exactly do u want to root your phone? do u want to flash a custom rom or do u want root access for the heck of it?
if u want to flash a custom rom then i suggest you go through this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850574
it has links to some other threads.. finally please do make a backup of your original rom in case u dont like the custom rom

SimonTS said:
Rare, but I seem to remember over a year ago when we all had to use an XTC-Clip that some people got their phones already S-Off.
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In his case, he got his phone S-OFF with a re engineered bootloader (2.00.2002). I find it strange that a stock phone comes pre installed with a ENG bootloader...

yaonos said:
In his case, he got his phone S-OFF with a re engineered bootloader (2.00.2002). I find it strange that a stock phone comes pre installed with a ENG bootloader...
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I hadn't looked at the hBoot version. Maybe his idea of 'New' and the shop's idea of 'New' are somewhat different - possibly a returned product that they hadn't checked properly before reselling.

SimonTS said:
I hadn't looked at the hBoot version. Maybe his idea of 'New' and the shop's idea of 'New' are somewhat different - possibly a returned product that they hadn't checked properly before reselling.
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I got my phone new from T-mobile and the only thing i've done to my phone software wise would be upgrading sense to 3.0 which was via the ota.

i thing best for u is to unlock ur bootloader flash r ecovery and superuser , flash a custom rom and follow this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318919 good luck

root verification fails

Hello everyone!
Im a new user of android devices, so i have a TMOUS sensation 4g
When i go to boot loader i get this info:
Firmware 3.33 (before applying this update bootloader was unlocked)
Pyramid Pvt ship s-off rl
hboot 1.27.1100
radio-11.24A.3504.31_M
.....
Phone has no recovery
I checked with root checker and the app says no root access, so is this phone rooted or not,Help please.

htcnonsense said:
Hello everyone!
Im a new user of android devices, so i have a TMOUS sensation 4g
When i go to boot loader i get this info:
Firmware 3.33 (before applying this update bootloader was unlocked)
Pyramid Pvt ship s-off rl
hboot 1.27.1100
radio-11.24A.3504.31_M
.....
Phone has no recovery
I checked with root checker and the app says no root access, so is this phone rooted or not,Help please.
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Hi,
S-off and flashing firmware,do not install recovery and root.
Look through THIS THREAD
It has directions for recovery and rooting.

malybru said:
Hi,
S-off and flashing firmware,do not install recovery and root.
Look through THIS THREAD
It has directions for recovery and rooting.
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Sorry but can you be more explainable? I have done the htcdev bootloader unlocking and wanted to install a custom (rom cm 10.1) then i flashed the new firmware 3.33 (universal) as guided by developer, When i try to flash Superuser-3.0.7 from cwm recovery the installation fails.What did i do wrong?I tried also KGS utility and when trying to root the app restarts the phone continuously failing to root.
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htcnonsense said:
malybru said:
Hi,
S-off and flashing firmware,do not install recovery and root.
Look through THIS THREAD
It has directions for recovery and rooting.
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Sorry but can you be more explainable? I have done the htcdev bootloader unlocking and wanted to install a custom (rom cm 10.1) then i flashed the new firmware 3.33 (universal) as guided by developer, When i try to flash Superuser-3.0.7 from cwm recovery the installation fails.What did i do wrong?I tried also KGS utility and when trying to root the app restarts the phone continuously failing to root.
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Hi,
There is nothing to explain.
I gave you a link to a thread which has clear and explicit explanations of how to install a recovery and how to root your phone.
Please read it carefully.
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htcnonsense said:
malybru said:
Hi,
S-off and flashing firmware,do not install recovery and root.
Look through THIS THREAD
It has directions for recovery and rooting.
[/QUOTE
Sorry but can you be more explainable? I have done the htcdev bootloader unlocking and wanted to install a custom (rom cm 10.1) then i flashed the new firmware 3.33 (universal) as guided by developer, When i try to flash Superuser-3.0.7 from cwm recovery the installation fails.What did i do wrong?I tried also KGS utility and when trying to root the app restarts the phone continuously failing to root.
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why you want to root ..if you are about to change the rom anyway ?
all custom roms comes pre-rooted
so you can skip the rooting part ..if you still want to try ..try my one click root from my soff guide ..link in my signature (just root tool is fine ..you can skip the soff part)
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