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For all those who worry about a bricked device with rooting, fear no more.......
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/16/verizon-begins-charging-full-price
I received this link from my buddy who works internally for Verizon this morning, after i asked him about this two weeks ago as some rumors were floating around saying VZW would charge you full price if you rooted and needed a replacement
This is in no way a guaranty that you will not be charged, any time you root your device you void your warranty blah blah blah
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VZW may not check, but HTC probably will. HTC may be "root friendly" but they don't want bad press about their products, either. If HTC finds evidence of root, there is nothing to stop them from reporting that to VZW, who will likely charge you full retail price for the reburbished phone they sent you as a replacement.
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VZW may not check, but HTC probably will. HTC may be "root friendly" but they don't want bad press about their products, either. If HTC finds evidence of root, there is nothing to stop them from reporting that to VZW, who will likely charge you full retail price for the reburbished phone they sent you as a replacement.
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Nope, not correct sir, but I see what your thinking, once the device passes the 3 checks, it gets sent off to be broken down for refurb device parts
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Verizon might not, but their contracted refurb centers do.
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Verizon might not, but their contracted refurb centers do.
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Exactly. Just file an insurance claim and be done with it.
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Verizon might not, but their contracted refurb centers do.
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Doesn't matter, cause the refurb centers can't charge you as well as there is no path for them to turn around and tell VZW that a device was rooted, once the receiving warehouse verifies the meid and the 3 physical checks its sent off to the refurb center to be taken apart, I worked for Big red for 6 years, once it leaves the receiving warehouse it's gone, so even if they (refurb center) did it wouldnt matter
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Exactly. Just file an insurance claim and be done with it.
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Free vs $90 or whatever it is......Hummm.......... Think I'll take the free option
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It still amazes me that people think businesses won't protect themselves from scammers. They may not make it a priority to catch every single one, but spot checks will happen. It would be a really horrible business practice to allow everyone to scam you out of your own product.
Link all the articles you want, but when they show their numbers for Quarter/Year, they'll take note on how much money was lost to "defective" merchandise. If that number is abnormally high...your ass will be grass when they start investigating the new returns.
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Free vs $90 or whatever it is......Hummm.......... Think I'll take the free option
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90 bucks vs whatever they charge if they find it rooted...
I'm guessing it depends on where it goes. Regardless, i'll pay the insurance just in case.
Kind of like car insurance, haven't used it in 10+ years, but still carry it.
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VZW may not check, but HTC probably will. HTC may be "root friendly" but they don't want bad press about their products, either. If HTC finds evidence of root, there is nothing to stop them from reporting that to VZW, who will likely charge you full retail price for the reburbished phone they sent you as a replacement.
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I dunno about that I got mine replaced, but then again the screen was water logged so perhaps there wasn't a way to check without powering on screen. I've known many people who have turned in rooted phones and never had a problem...
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It still amazes me that people think businesses won't protect themselves from scammers. They may not make it a priority to catch every single one, but spot checks will happen. It would be a really horrible business practice to allow everyone to scam you out of your own product.
Link all the articles you want, but when they show their numbers for Quarter/Year, they'll take note on how much money was lost to "defective" merchandise. If that number is abnormally high...your ass will be grass when they start investigating the new returns.
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1.4 million customers and of that 260,000 thunderbolts.....of that 25,000 to 50,000 rooted, and that's a liberal number it's probably less, I'm no math major but I doubt there will be any major impact on "defective" merch and Verizon has an internal sop with equipment and issues, if the "defective" device replacements hits a certain %, the device moves to "end of life" and they stop carrying it, it's that simple, they're not going to investigate anything
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Keep believing that...
Cause no one at Verizon has a clue.
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Keep believing that...
Cause no one at Verizon has a clue.
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It's not a matter of believing, it's a matter of knowing, and I am, hence the signature
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Says everything I needed to know. Moving on...
Maybe Verizon wont, but somewhere along the line someone will know.
Every time you do this you are signing a petition begging carriers and manufacturers to lock down their devices and persecute the root community.
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You can't talk sense to these people, they just keep going and going and complain later when the companies institute crazy rules and pricing. It's illegal, plain and simple, but you'll never convince them of anything.
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Says everything I needed to know. Moving on...
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Was more intended as a reference to the GB Rom vs the XDA Noob Video, but whatever flips your skirt lol
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Maybe Verizon wont, but somewhere along the line someone will know.
Every time you do this you are signing a petition begging carriers and manufacturers to lock down their devices and persecute the root community.
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I agree, carnage, but we must still try. Unfortunately, too many people think only of short term selfish benefit, and not about long-term consequences for the whole community.
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You can't talk sense to these people, they just keep going and going and complain later when the companies institute crazy rules and pricing. It's illegal, plain and simple, but you'll never convince them of anything.
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not to add fuel to the fire but it is not illegal to root your phone.. and aren't you yourself falling into the category of "people" that refuse to believe what others have to say as true?
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For all those who worry about a bricked device with rooting, fear no more.......
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/16/verizon-begins-charging-full-price
I received this link from my buddy who works internally for Verizon this morning, after i asked him about this two weeks ago as some rumors were floating around saying VZW would charge you full price if you rooted and needed a replacement
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Your internal friend gave you a link to an android blog site...
cool story bro
Took this picture at work, and thought wouldn't it be nice.
On a side note, joined XDA 2 years ago today. Went from DX to Bionic to S3.
depends how you look at it.
Fresh on the scene: Apple+FB alliance against Google.
A part of me wonders what these companies could achieve if they were all butt buddies and teamed up...what they could achieve together....and a part of me has to accept that there must always be casualties in creative-destructions
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As much as I respect the things Apple has accomplished as a company, I sincerely dislike the way they handle business. They technically do work with Samsung right?
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This was funny. Thanks
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As much as I respect the things Apple has accomplished as a company, I sincerely dislike the way they handle business. They technically do work with Samsung right?
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The nature of their relationship is like... "frienemies"
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Samsung makes like 10% of their sales to Apple, so its a close relationship otherwise. Although if they grew a pair, now would be a time to "complicate" the relationship because the iPhone 5 would be quite delayed, killing their sales, and some of the fan base who are looking to upgrade soon.
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The nature of their relationship is like... "frienemies"
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I had a "frienemy" once. I later beat the crap out of him.
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I had a "frienemy" once. I later beat the crap out of him.
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So you're Apple
He was Samsung
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So you're Apple
He was Samsung
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I suppose. I can't help but to feel offended by your comment sir lol.
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I suppose. I can't help but to feel offended by your comment sir lol.
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Oh it wasn't a comment. I thought you were giving me a puzzle to solve. lol
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Samsung makes like 10% of their sales to Apple, so its a close relationship otherwise. Although if they grew a pair, now would be a time to "complicate" the relationship because the iPhone 5 would be quite delayed, killing their sales, and some of the fan base who are looking to upgrade soon.
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10% wouldn't make a huge deal to Samsung, the best thing they could do now is hit Apple where it hurts the most: cripple their iPhone 5 production without much prior notice by not selling them parts, and we'll see who the ***** is then. I wish one of Apple's supply companies would put them in their place so they can see how dependent they are on other companies even though they keep sueing them. Apple doesn't make anything on their own as far as hardware like Sammy or Moto do, so they wouldn't get very far if others started treating them the way Apple treats others, then they'd figure out how dependent they really are. Someone's knocking on the door, I better go it's probably the Apple police looking for people that don't blindly think they're great, lol.
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10% wouldn't make a huge deal to Samsung
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Tell that to their shareholders also a contract is a contract. Would u welcome another lawsuit? One I would think could easily won?
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Tell that to the thousands of factory worker who albeit already live under the poverty level, that they no longer have a source of income to support their families.
10% is big bro, and HUGE for a company like Samsung...who reported 40 Billion revenue in Q1....
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Problem is they have a contract with Apple, and unless they are willing to break that contract and without a doubt get sued with absolutely no hope of winning, they won't do that.
ha-ha that's just not going to happen.
http://myandroidchief.com/samsung-w...o-strip-phones-of-infringing-patent-features/
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Could it be the case that its the update to 4.0.4? hmmmm I wonder???
That's going to suck if they actually ban our device.
It is not banning "our" device. If it happens, still a long shot, it will not really affect current users. They will not take your phone from you. Carriers will just have to stop selling, which probably still means they can deplete their current inventory as they have already been purchased from Samsung.
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That's going to suck if they actually ban our device.
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Look at it like this if they are ban from selling ,then the value if our device will go up due to the fact that u can't buy from the store anymore.
I wasn't meaning it as a problem for people with the device currently, I meant to say that I have a lot of friends my age looking and seeing all the things I do with my phone. They're all saving up to buy them and if they ban the T989 then my friends won't be able to purchase via stores.
Sammy's guys are much more smart than apple developers, we will be resting while Sammy is creating the champion phones they always have. Apple complaint about similarities. Sammy is not going to make similar phones to apple smartphone in theory. But if apple revolutionizes everything to be more convenient then Samsung must use power instead of convenience. If apple is commercial, Samsung must be the people's phone, easy enough? If apple make fast phones Samsung should be elegant or if apple makes the stable phone then same should make the surprising phone. If apple wants all the money then Samsung should have more interest in phones and their appearance for the better of the lawsuits and a efficient resolution to forward production in the next line of phones.
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You guys can always take a trip up here to Canada. None of that garbage that Apple is pulling applies here, and we have the same phones to purchase. Peace.
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You guys can always take a trip up here to Canada. None of that garbage that Apple is pulling applies here, and we have the same phones to purchase. Peace.
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Looks like we have a place to stay???
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Looks like we have a place to stay???
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Lol, sure suaverc118 you are welcome to visit
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regardless of the outcome it wont matter to us that already purchased it.
it only affects the remaining inventory at store level, just a minor GUI change and all issues are solved with a new ROM
Walmart has them on sale for 99.98 when you add a new line.. as seen yesterday when I got me pups sum food...and they have the s3 for 179.98. Someone posted in another thread that they have the s2 for 179.99 at Sams club full price. So who knows
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Why is this credit here?
I would think Verizon would have better answers than we would. $615 sounds like full price for an S3 ($599.99 + tax).
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I would think Verizon would have better answers than we would. $615 sounds like full price for an S3 ($599.99 + tax).
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That was gonna be my answer. They're are some things Verizon actually knows better then xda. Billing questions is one.
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I really hope it's Verizon's answer to atts rollover minutes, "rollover dollars" lol
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I would do the best job of playing dumb and keeping my mouth shut that I had ever done.......
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I really hope it's Verizon's answer to atts rollover minutes, "rollover dollars" lol
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I would do the best job of playing dumb and keeping my mouth shut that I had ever done.......
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Don't question them. Buy a Note 2 and sell your S3.
I just want to say do you really think Verizon will forget they mistakenly have to 600 bucks? They will find out at some point and charge you for it.
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I just want to say do you really think Verizon will forget they mistakenly have to 600 bucks? They will find out at some point and charge you for it.
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No doubt about that.
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I really hope it's Verizon's answer to atts rollover minutes, "rollover dollars" lol
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Lmao someone started hitting the crack pipe a little bit early today
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Monopoly has a card for bank error in your favor, maybe it will work with Verizon.
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Hey, pass some of that credit my way
Lol. If I could.... I wouldn't. Sorry. Helps a lot.
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I'd stay quiet and wait that out man lol
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Lol. I ain't tellin them "Finder's Keeper"
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Didn't they give u that credit to get the note 2? U said in another thread that Verizon was exchanging a s3 for the note 2
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No. They are replacing it, not a new phone. I might get some overpriced accessories or two tablets. Or just not pay a couple of months
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If this is an accounting error you can expect it to be corrected. If it was me I would not spend that or you may owe them some money.
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If this is an accounting error you can expect it to be corrected. If it was me I would not spend that or you may owe them some money.
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Technically he wouldn't owe them d*ck... They made the mistake and he was clueless about it he didn't think of the reasons why the credit was there and spent the money... So what? Their fault their problem... If anything they might wanna take that money out of one of their employee's paycheck...
This said, there most likely is a very reasonable explanation about that and it's not a mistake... That's what always happen to me when I get all excited about things like that lol...
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Yea who cares about those dirty employees. They make a mistake and they should be punished by losing money out of their paycheck. They're definitely not real people and definitely out to help you 100 percent of the time. That's what kills me. So many people talk about calling into Verizon and "raising hell" abusing the employees. I guarantee half the people here have never worked a customer service job and seen how stressful it is to be yelled out or make a mistake. Maybe instead of exploiting that mistake you should just wait for them to fix it. The worst part about working for verizon or any other company like it is that you make a mistake it comes right out of your pocket. You use that credit and you take money from someone else for making an honest mistake. I'm glad to know that there's people just ready and waiting to exploit verizon and by extension the employees. And the reason they are so ready to do this is because Verizon owes them something. Entitled ignorant customers, contrary to what that employee who's gonna lose 615 dollars is gonna be forced to say, I thank you for being the worst part of verizon.
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You may remember that last year, the DMCA exemption on unlocking phones was smacked down. Well it's going into effect this Saturday. So starting tomorrow, unlocking your phone will be officially illegal. Yay.
Unlocking phones without the express consent of the carrier who locked them became illegal thanks to edits to DMCA exemptions back in October, but it's only now that the 90-day grace period is running out. Locked phones purchased in the 90 days after the ruling are still game to be unlocked, but from here on out, for an unlocked phone to be legitimate, it'll have to have been bought that way or come with a permission slip from your carrier.
It's not the first time retracted DMCA exemptions have threatened to mess with your ability to mess with your phone. Jailbreaking and rooting almost became illegal again because of DMCA exemption changes. Fortunately, the same batch of modifications that illegalized unlocking will also protect phone jailbreaking for another three years. But it's still not allowed on tablets. Not than anyone is likely notice that particular indiscretion.
These changes won't, of course, limit you ability to unlock phones anyway, but it will give carriers a bit of a heavier stick to wave at you if they catch you using an unlocked phone they didn't authorize; they can tell. There are also a few technical loopholes. Legacy phones, i.e. "used (or perhaps unused) phones previously purchased or otherwise acquired by a consumer" are still cool to unlock, and that definition has a little bit of play in it. But the practice of unlocking your carrier-discounted phone is still going to be a crime, so get ready to deal with this brave new world, or live the life of an outlaw.
Illegal... you know I'm not really going to lose any sleep over this outside of the potential damage to sites and communities like xda. If the carriers do anything more than dole out some sort of fine I'll be surprised. Eventually some carrier will release all their phones like asus did with the tf300t tablet: register,unlock and no problem but your warranty is voided. I think this approach makes sense. I will be interested to see how xda handles the pressure from carriers or manufacturers to limit or remove access to the knowledge of this community.
T-Mobile will accept any unlocked phone. Plus, I can always buy chinese clones that come unlocked. No big deal.
Maybe in the US, but in Europe it's not illegal.
I've always wanted to live in US - a country of freedom.
Is the unlock illegal only if the equipment in question is under contract?
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I've always wanted to live in US - a country of freedom.
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If your not in the us why post? Nobody cares about how your EU allows phone unlocking now then let the us people do the talking.
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Majority of Sprint phones, like mine, come unlocked lol
Yay! Just because I paid full price for something doesn't mean I expect to own it or do what I want with it. I am happy to give my carrier hundreds of dollars for something that they have control over.
Seriously though, I refuse to buy a locked phone out of principle. I wish others would do the same.
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Yay! Just because I paid full price for something doesn't mean I expect to own it or do what I want with it. I am happy to give my carrier hundreds of dollars for something that they have control over.
Seriously though, I refuse to buy a locked phone out of principle. I wish others would do the same.
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I am from Tunisia:laugh:
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If your not in the us why post? Nobody cares about how your EU allows phone unlocking now then let the us people do the talking.
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I believe his comment was sarcastic...
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Is the unlock illegal only if the equipment in question is under contract?
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I am wondering this as well.
O no my phones illegal ! So is my girlfriend
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Didn't this unlocking refer to unlocking in the sense that you can use it with sim cards from any carrier and not the "unlocking" that means installing your own operating system or getting root privilegues?
There is no any restriction here in Chile, i expect that doesn't change.
Yes that's only for the carrier not just unlocking ur phine
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O no my phones illegal ! So is my girlfriend
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Haha
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It's also illegal to Jay walk and take the tag off your mattress... so this changes nothing
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Let XDA be governing regulating authority like DMCA. Then standards will be set by xda for dev community. XDA has the potential in my opinion.
Without research world cannot be healed.
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Let XDA be governing regulating authority like DMCA. Then standards will be set by xda for dev community. XDA has the potential in my opinion.
Without research world cannot be healed.
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What lol. Xda is Dev forum nothing else.
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