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Hi,
Although this question has been put up many a times but I don't see a conclusion in any of the threads. Can someone give a finite answer to the SDHC support in Wizard? (Y/N)?
Did anyone try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345038&highlight=sdhc+patch
Thanks.
WIZA200 (HT622)
TNT 1933 ROM
Yep, tried it and it didn't work. I couldn't even read my existing 2Gb SD card
There seems to be conflicting information - some say it is just a driver issue, others say the Wizard's hardware can't support SDHC. I have searched and searched and it does seem that either the Wizard's hardware can't support SDHC or there simply hasn't been a driver written that supports it. Either way it doesn't work currently.
Andy
singhravi437 said:
Although this question has been put up many a times but I don't see a conclusion in any of the threads. Can someone give a finite answer to the SDHC support in Wizard? (Y/N)?
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Depends from what you really want to achieve bottom line .. I have a 4GB card working perfectly smooth. Not sure, but I guess it is not a SDHC card. So is it really the SDHC you are looking for, or rather "just" a large sized card?
If you want I could check for the supplier.
FordPrefect said:
Depends from what you really want to achieve bottom line .. I have a 4GB card working perfectly smooth. Not sure, but I guess it is not a SDHC card. So is it really the SDHC you are looking for, or rather "just" a large sized card?
If you want I could check for the supplier.
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Are you talking about 4GB mini SD Card? where did you get it? I am not talking about SDHC. I got 4GB HCSD but I never have a change to make it works with my Wizard.
Yes, bottomline is that 2 GB is not enough and I am seriously looking for high capacity cards. I came to know that all the cards above 2GB are SDHC (as on sandisk and sdcard.org websites).
If you know of a 4 GB card that is non-SDHC and is working well, please do send me the supplier details. I am based in India so need to check if he can ship overseas.
Thanks.
Right now I have an authentic 4 GB SDHC card from Transcend.
Till now I have tried all the patches/drivers available here for SDHC but couldn't make this to work. I even checked after formatting the the card in FAT16.
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If you know of a 4 GB card that is non-SDHC and is working well, please do send me the supplier details. I am based in India so need to check if he can ship overseas.
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Have a look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297324
singhravi437 said:
Yes, bottomline is that 2 GB is not enough and I am seriously looking for high capacity cards. I came to know that all the cards above 2GB are SDHC (as on sandisk and sdcard.org websites).
If you know of a 4 GB card that is non-SDHC and is working well, please do send me the supplier details. I am based in India so need to check if he can ship overseas.
Thanks.
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Here is the one I bought. It is NOT SDHC, but has a 4 GB size. Unfortunately this link is to a German eBay shop:
http://cgi.ebay.de/4GB-miniSD-Speic...830230QQihZ017QQcategoryZ155794QQcmdZViewItem
Hope this will help you in possibly finding a supplier in India!
http://cgi.ebay.com/4GB-mini-SD-Car...yZ118260QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Sorry for the huge link, I dont even know if it will work so lemme know. If it does, all of that guy's 4gb mini-SD cards are non HC. From what I have read, "Topram mini-SD 4gb" cards from a certain batch are non HC and work with the wizard. I ordered one from the person in the link and it has been working fine so far. Hope this helps.
Is there a difference between the cards themselves or is it just the formatting?
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Is there a difference between the cards themselves or is it just the formatting?
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the formatting and the hardware logic is different. there are differences internally, but externally they appear to be the same.
ok i got a nexus one and im using apps2sd I want more memory like 16gb I can get a class 2 for like 40 bucks but im under the impression that i need a class 4 or 6 what's the best for the money or should I just get the class 2? I mean im using a class 2 card now and I've had no problems with it
I cant seem to find a higher class card. I would really love one. Right now i have a class 4 4gig. I would also love an upgrade soon
For linux swap on the SD card you'd want a higher class card, but is it really critical for Apps2SD? Most of the Class 2 cards have a fairly respectable read speed - it's the write speed where they fall down. The main area you might notice a slower card would be on installing new apps. I'm not sure if your Apps2SD solution includes storing app data on the card, but the performance impact of that would depend on how much data the app keeps locally.
flarbear said:
For linux swap on the SD card you'd want a higher class card, but is it really critical for Apps2SD? Most of the Class 2 cards have a fairly respectable read speed - it's the write speed where they fall down. The main area you might notice a slower card would be on installing new apps. I'm not sure if your Apps2SD solution includes storing app data on the card, but the performance impact of that would depend on how much data the app keeps locally.
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K I think I get it...... I'm using cyanogenmod 5.0.5.3 with amon_ra's recovery 1.70 what card would be ideal with this setup?
out of personal experience has anybody had any problems with just using a class 2 card?
Heres a pretty sweet one and its class 6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211378
_-..zKiLLA..-_ said:
Heres a pretty sweet one and its class 6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211378
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Thanks! Ive never heard of this brand has anybody used a sd card made by "a-data" specifically for apps2sd? Feedback on this item would help me decide to take the plunge
If not i guess I'll still get it someone has to go first right?
_-..zKiLLA..-_ said:
Heres a pretty sweet one and its class 6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211378
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That's the one I have, but it was cheaper at Amazon.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183245
Hold off for a day or two and get this. It's cheap and it's fast. Here's a review
http://www.pendrivereviews.com/ridata-16gb-microsdhc-review-and-benchmark/
popophobia said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183245
Hold off for a day or two and get this. It's cheap and it's fast. Here's a review
http://www.pendrivereviews.com/ridata-16gb-microsdhc-review-and-benchmark/
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Thanks that does seem like the best for its price
Nice find man
popophobia said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820183245
Hold off for a day or two and get this. It's cheap and it's fast. Here's a review
http://www.pendrivereviews.com/ridata-16gb-microsdhc-review-and-benchmark/
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Couldn't find any info about international shipping? Anyone know if they send abroad?
/Rune
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Couldn't find any info about international shipping? Anyone know if they send abroad?
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no...newegg does not ship overseas
btw i use the 16gb a-data card and have no issues at all...it a much better price point compared to the newer 32gb cards at over 200 bucks
I'm using a class 2 16Gb SanDisk card and haven't had any issues with it.
Write speed can be a little slow, as someone mentioned. So installing large apps can take a little longer.
The /data directory is still on the internal storage, not on the card.
I don't have a Swap partition on my card either.
Music, movies, games, and apps have all been fine using app2sd on CM 5.0.5.3.
I got the Ridata class 6 from newegg when it was available for $48. reviews/speed are good.
mindfrost82 said:
I'm using a class 2 16Gb SanDisk card and haven't had any issues with it.
Write speed can be a little slow, as someone mentioned. So installing large apps can take a little longer.
The /data directory is still on the internal storage, not on the card.
I don't have a Swap partition on my card either.
Music, movies, games, and apps have all been fine using app2sd on CM 5.0.5.3.
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Damn...wish I saw your post..2 days earlier...I was contemplating on getting a class 2...Oh, well...Now I wish I didn't see your post! LoL
I recently was looking for a fast MicroSDHC card and greatly considered Kingston's CLASS 10 card. Pricey, but should be fast.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139120
Ultimately I settled for an 8GB Transcend, Class 6. I need to wait for the costs to come down on the larger, faster cards.
SurrealNetworks said:
I recently was looking for a fast MicroSDHC card and greatly considered Kingston's CLASS 10 card. Pricey, but should be fast.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139120
Ultimately I settled for an 8GB Transcend, Class 6. I need to wait for the costs to come down on the larger, faster cards.
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Thats cheap, here in DK it cost 137,40 $ for the Kingston class 10
I heard there was a 32GB Card included with the thunderbolt. The 6GB card on my Droid X was only class 4, so I replaced it with a class 10. Anybody heard anything about the speed on the card included with the Thunderbolt?
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newalker91 said:
A card of that capacity will more than likely be a Class 2. I can't see them putting anything more than that in the phone considering the price and that 32GB microSD card's are far from openly available as it is.
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It's actually class 4. :]
From what ive seen and heard is that its not neccesarily the class that determins the speed as it is the manufacturer. Sandisk from my understanding has the fastest cards out and that is in part why you pay a premium price for them. My buddy bought a 16gb class 10 , I honestly do not remember the manufacturer, and his old 8gb class 4 sandisk is way faster according to him. He was pretty pissed after finding that out.
I have a 32 gb Sandisk (class 2) in my Inc and I store all of my music and video on it.
I even have a couple of full 2 hour videos on it. I experience no lag or any other issues with it.
I have also installed the "Let's Golf 2" app from the leaked TB RUU on it and it runs flawlessly.
The only place where the speed is any issue for me is putting large files on the card, it is slow. But once the files are there the read speed is fine.
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As far as Sandisk over the last 5 years I have had 3 cards corrupt themselves and die. Usually it is within 6 months.
Since I switched to Kingston branded cards. From what I understand they are also sandisk but the batches that didn't meet standards for Sandisk themselves.
Anyway I've had this 16GB Kingston for well over a year and works faster than the Sandisk.
If any card would fail it would be running XDAndroid off the sd card like I am now.
how do you test theres cards without paying?
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how do you test theres cards without paying?
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There are a number of benchmark software suites that do it. I like to use Sandra. And h2bench at http://www.assimilateinc.com/tools1.html
andydumi said:
There are a number of benchmark software suites that do it. I like to use Sandra. And h2bench at http://www.assimilateinc.com/tools1.html
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i couldnt download it
Whatever class it comes with will be fine for me. I just can't wait for the xtra 16gb of storage. I know for most people that 16 is plenty, but with all the roms on my 16gb card, and switching it between my fascinate and incredible plus my 5gb of music that 16gb disappears quickly. I do like having the 8gb internal of the droid x but undone ever see myself using it all until androids apps get more polished, and with polish they will grow in size very fast. I can't wait til we has a preloaded maps that can work without cell signal!!! Go tbolt!
I'm updating the puny 2Gb placeholder in my Atrix 2. I finally settled on a little known name , Dane Elec, and ordered it from New Egg. Cost me $55 shipped and it's a class 10 card. They are the company making the new Duracell flash units. When I get it installed I'll come back and do a review if anyone is interested
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I just ordered up a 32 gig class 10 as well. I was digging through all the data that seems to be split between the onboard and the sdhc card. I'm curious what happens with the various apps when you replace the card.
Moving data over to new bigger SD card
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I just ordered up a 32 gig class 10 as well. I was digging through all the data that seems to be split between the onboard and the sdhc card. I'm curious what happens with the various apps when you replace the card.
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I'm pretty sure that if you mount both SD cards to your computer and copy everything from old to new, that the system has no problem carrying on with new card with more space. I have done this several times with Inspire 4G, did it once with Atrix 2 going from the stock 8 to a 16GB that I had, and will be doing it again soon with new 32GB.
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I'm pretty sure that if you mount both SD cards to your computer and copy everything from old to new, that the system has no problem carrying on with new card with more space. I have done this several times with Inspire 4G, did it once with Atrix 2 going from the stock 8 to a 16GB that I had, and will be doing it again soon with new 32GB.
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So do I need to put the new card in and let the phone format it first or format it on the PC?
Let the phone format it, and then transfer the information to it. Good luck with the class 10 micro sd cards. People on the forum to include I are having issues with them. Supposedly going down to a class 4 and 6 will remove the problems the phone is having.
Taking pictures or recording video, the items will show up at as non readable. Everytime I take a pic the first pic is always bad, all of the others show up just fine. Gets annoying but i've managed to overcome it. Also when that happens all of the pictures you took after take a year to show up in the picture viewer. I have to reboot the device just to take a look at the ones I just shot.
cheetablaze said:
Let the phone format it, and then transfer the information to it. Good luck with the class 10 micro sd cards. People on the forum to include I are having issues with them. Supposedly going down to a class 4 and 6 will remove the problems the phone is having.
Taking pictures or recording video, the items will show up at as non readable. Everytime I take a pic the first pic is always bad, all of the others show up just fine. Gets annoying but i've managed to overcome it. Also when that happens all of the pictures you took after take a year to show up in the picture viewer. I have to reboot the device just to take a look at the ones I just shot.
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Having a class 10 card in my phone, I concur. I have yet to get a class 4 or 6 card to replace it yet but I have heard that doing so will remedy the r/o issues the phone has. Gonna stop by Frys today and pick one up, maybe even a 16gb.
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I'm running a 16gb class 4 and haven't had any issues so far.
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mtnlion said:
I'm running a 16gb class 4 and haven't had any issues so far.
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well crap, unfortunately i'm not made out of money. going to roll with the busted class 10 for awhile until I can figure out something to do. I wonder if best buy will take it back if all i give to them is the micro sd card and a receipt... haha
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I'm running a 16gb class 4 and haven't had any issues so far.
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I picked one up today, 16gb class 4 by Kingston. We'll see how it goes.
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I'm running a 16gb class 4 and haven't had any issues so far.
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Some here, smooth sailings so far, but i don't have much on my sd card right now.
shoot, I already placed an order for a class 10, I just assumed it was higher quality, like the way cpu's are binned for speed.
Any recommendation on a specific card that works w/o trouble ?
I've been using a 16G sandisk class 6 card without any problems, glad I seen this thread because I was just about to order some class 10 cards. Guess I'll b holding off on that now.
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shoot, I already placed an order for a class 10, I just assumed it was higher quality, like the way cpu's are binned for speed.
Any recommendation on a specific card that works w/o trouble ?
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i am using a sandisk 16 gb class 4 card that was really cheap on newegg with free shipping. i am not sure if the deal is still going on. there is a link below:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171486
I copied what I posted in another thread.
My experience has been just the opposite. I originally purchased a 16gb class 4 PNY card and I had the aforementioned read only issues. I then exchanged it for a 16gb class 10 PNY and all has been good since. and that has been about 3 weeks ago. Go figure?
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Could it be that different manufactures arrive at various class standards using different architecture? Maybe the same class of card from one manufacturer can act differently then another manufacturer? I think ultimately that it shouldn't matter which card we use if the software/hardware is correct, we should be able to put any "reasonable" card we like in the phone and it should work. Hopefully Moto will issue an update so the phones wont be so picky. By the way I love my Atrix 2 and have no desire to get anything else.
Mytwuk said:
Could it be that different manufactures arrive at various class standards using different architecture? Maybe the same class of card from one manufacturer can act differently then another manufacturer? I think ultimately that it shouldn't matter which card we use if the software/hardware is correct, we should be able to put any "reasonable" card we like in the phone and it should work. Hopefully Moto will issue an update so the phones wont be so picky. By the way I love my Atrix 2 and have no desire to get anything else.
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Its not that simple. It depends on the hardware.....my HD camcorder for example, it specifically states that it needs at least a class 4 card, otherwise the info cant be written to the card as fast as it needs to be and will error out. Im sure something similar is at play here. But with Motorola not specifying what class card its compatible with it becomes a trial by error. So far the most common thing among the many people who have had this problem is the class 10 card.
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Yes I agree I have been playing with HD camcorders for a few years and I understand that the medium whether it is a card or a disc or tape needs to be able to keep up with data stream being sent to it. Im sure something similar is at play here as well but a faster card shouldn't give negative results? You are right that a camcorder has a "minimum" rating but although a faster card will not necessarily give any better performance it certainly shouldn't be worse or cause issues like it appears to on these phones.
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Its not that simple. It depends on the hardware.....my HD camcorder for example, it specifically states that it needs at least a class 4 card, otherwise the info cant be written to the card as fast as it needs to be and will error out. Im sure something similar is at play here. But with Motorola not specifying what class card its compatible with it becomes a trial by error. So far the most common thing among the many people who have had this problem is the class 10 card.
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Logical, but its not always like that. Example....in car audio, the head unit sends signal via rca's to an external amplifier, the higher voltage the signal, the more efficient the amp will be and the better it will sound. So logic will tell you if you can get an 8v signal to the amp then it should sound lovely since most signals are 1-2volts....well, if ur amp can only handle up to 6v signal then feeding it an 8v signal will cause the amp to go into protect mode and not work right.
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Clovett said:
So do I need to put the new card in and let the phone format it first or format it on the PC?
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I use HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool 2.1.8.0, based on recommendations on other xdadevelopers forums such as Inspire 4G. Supposedly does a more thorough format than the stock Windows 7 utility (certainly takes longer). Using this, I have had zero problem using Class 6 and Class 10 cards.
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I use HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool 2.1.8.0, based on recommendations on other xdadevelopers forums such as Inspire 4G. Supposedly does a more thorough format than the stock Windows 7 utility (certainly takes longer). Using this, I have had zero problem using Class 6 and Class 10 cards.
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I think I shall try this now
I had my hopes up for this to work... but sadly it does not. Using a PNY 16 gb class 10 card.
It's a bust on the Dane Elec class 10 card. It doesn't say what class it is at New Egg but has a prominent 10 in a circle. Turns out that is for the warranty. It's a class 2 card, goes back today. After reading all this I may step down to a class 4 or 6.
NewEgg has a class 4 32gb card for $41 shipped ordered that based on what I've read
Anyone try this card out on the S4? Is there a huge difference in speeds between the ultra and extreme? My 64gb "samsung" brand microsd card is failing on me and im in the market for a new card and i learned my lesson so i dont mind spending the extra bucks for a "reliable" card .
just need an opinion if its worth spending twice the money for the extreme?
i have the class 10 sandisk microSDHC; works fine zero issues. GF has one in her S4 too.
I also confirm that it works.
64GB SanDisk cards in my Galaxy 4, Nook Tablet, and HTC Vision all working with no problems.
But can and does the Samsung S4 support the faster speeds that the extreme offers ?
I thought the reader in the S4 was limited. Can anyone confirm ?
ImNotTheDroidUrLooking4 said:
But can and does the Samsung S4 support the faster speeds that the extreme offers ?
I thought the reader in the S4 was limited. Can anyone confirm ?
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That's also what I thought.
I read that somewhere!!!
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It would seam to me the hardware speed must be limited, I was using a class 4 16gb card moved to a 64gb uhs1/class 10 and acording to sdcard speed test the write speed is actually slower or about equal compaired to the class 4 which doesn't make sense to me unless my card is crap.
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ImNotTheDroidUrLooking4 said:
But can and does the Samsung S4 support the faster speeds that the extreme offers ?
I thought the reader in the S4 was limited. Can anyone confirm ?
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that is exactly what i wanted to know, the extreme offeres faster speeds but does the S4 support that? If it doesnt then id just buy the samsung extreme pro for $65 from amazon rather than paying $100 something for the sandisk extreme
i have the class 10 and it work great
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i have the class 10 and it work great
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Class 10 is only 10MB write /sec. Its not fast.
Sandisk Extreme is 50MB/sec but Ive read that the S4 micro SD is limited and the maximum you can get is 20MB/sec
so theres very little benefit in getting one with faster speeds.
May as well save money and get a slower one.
1080P video recording [technically] requires a Class 6 card or better.
The faster your SD card is, the faster some activities will complete. Like Titanium Backups or making a nandroid of your ROM. These are write intensive activities and if you're not a patient kind of person, then go with the fastest SD card you can get.
Otherwise, I'd get a Class 6 at a minimum. And make sure to get a real card because eBay is flooded with fake SD cards that are slower than advertised speed.
I'm in the plumbs parking lot right now
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